There are people winning more than they are losing.

[tbterryboy]

Obviously, you can't always win, otherwise the casinos would go bankrupt, and no one runs a business that's guaranteed to fail. In Italy, for example, we have the SuperEnalotto. When it happens, the winnings are huge, but it's extremely rare for anyone to get a 6 in the SuperEnalotto. That's why the winnings are so high.

Also you do not have to be a casino that pays more than it makes, you could always pay less than you earn. In a lottery example, don't know how it works in Italy, but in my nation when there is a lottery, the tickets for example say is 1 dollar, then they sell 100 million of those, so the lottery company makes 100 million, they pay rewards as 90 million, so some people make money, not all of it goes to one person, one person makes a lot but it's distributed like second place and third place and so forth. In the end, the company makes a profit too.

[Satofan44]

I decided to check the history of some of my gambling results in some of the casinos, sport bets I’m using and I find out I’m winning or gaining more money in gambling than I’m losing. After finding out this today I believe there are people who are winning in gambling more than they are losing.
As for me I can lose 3 to 4 bet slip in a week but if I win 1 or 2 it will recover all the money I lost and I will still have additional money.

Go through your history in some of the  casinos, sport bets you are using and tell use if you are losing more or gaining more.

No shit sherlock, there are people who win the lottery too. What about it? You should never make decisions based on statistical exceptions, and these exits in practically everything. It is most often that people are desparate and that is why they chose to poison themselves with misplaced hope, they tend to be desperate because they are lazy, poor, or they simply make bad decisions. The gambling industry thrives on the hopium of many deluded souls that believe that they can make money here, and this thread is just an indicator of the same concept: Look over there, people that win at gambling exist (and that could be me one day)! If people only played for entertainment, that is if the industry shrunk only to those types of players -- those that are doing it for the right reasons -- it would probably shrink by 90% or more.

Also you do not have to be a casino that pays more than it makes, you could always pay less than you earn. In a lottery example, don't know how it works in Italy, but in my nation when there is a lottery, the tickets for example say is 1 dollar, then they sell 100 million of those, so the lottery company makes 100 million, they pay rewards as 90 million, so some people make money, not all of it goes to one person, one person makes a lot but it's distributed like second place and third place and so forth. In the end, the company makes a profit too.

Zero sum game of redistributing existing money from a large group of people to smaller groups of people, which only makes the house rich. Most people are always in the negative with these sort of concepts, and the lives of the individual big winners tend to also go on a downward spiral because they are unable to handle such large amounts of money. If they did, they would already have such money. It's practically a scam to keep the sheep dreaming of riches and happiness that never comes, but hey at least you help the rich get even richer? 

[LUCKMCFLY]

yes that's right a player spirit should always be  high even if they are winning or losing.  This can only be through if the gambler have the right mindset towards gambling. Those gambler that sees gambling as a game of luck won't allow losing to affect there spirit because they know before hand that is either a win or a loss. However for those gambler that thinks that there winning is as a result of there gambling skills and experience will be affected whenever they lose.

There's a very interesting point: we must be very optimistic people with high morale so that things or small failures don't affect us. It's known that in the gambling process, losing is the most common outcome, but we must be smart, bet with money we're prepared to lose, and that's it. If we lose, we must take it with the highest possible maturity and that's it, not insist on something that doesn't make sense. Sometimes we're lucky, sometimes we're not; that's the first thing we must accept.

[Satofan44]

yes that's right a player spirit should always be  high even if they are winning or losing.  This can only be through if the gambler have the right mindset towards gambling. Those gambler that sees gambling as a game of luck won't allow losing to affect there spirit because they know before hand that is either a win or a loss. However for those gambler that thinks that there winning is as a result of there gambling skills and experience will be affected whenever they lose.

There's a very interesting point: we must be very optimistic people with high morale so that things or small failures don't affect us. It's known that in the gambling process, losing is the most common outcome, but we must be smart, bet with money we're prepared to lose, and that's it. If we lose, we must take it with the highest possible maturity and that's it, not insist on something that doesn't make sense. Sometimes we're lucky, sometimes we're not; that's the first thing we must accept.

The advice that is given is completely wrong and misplaced. I know that heroin is bad for me, so I will always be in good spirits and even if it makes me feel bad I will continue to using it. Genius advice.   People who are playing sports and doing things that are healthy for them should be in high spirits, regardless of the outcome. They should remain competitive and engage with a lot of energy in the activities. People who are doing things that are risky, dangerous or directly harmful should never be optimistic or in high spirits about them.

A gambler who does not care about losing and is always in high spirits is an idiot that does not have any discipline, bankroll management or any of characteristics of a reasonable approach to gambling. From the perspective that gambling should be entertainment only, it is valid -- but most people here are not doing that and they are not preaching that. Therefore, since most people are approaching it with the aim of getting money you should be well aware and reactive to your loses. How stupid does a person need to be to be optimistic about placing more bets, in very high spirits, when they have lost a ton of money?   It is time to quit with these irrational delusions, grow up and take responsibility. Unless a person is truly playing for entertainment purposes only with a very limited bankroll, then they should absolutely feel every loss and re-evaluate what they are doing accordingly. Refusing to acknowledge losses and forcing optimism is a very bad coping strategy.

[TheUltraElite]

Going through bet history, the number of losses will invariably be more than the number of wins cumulative.

The people who are winning more than losing and considering the amount in wins is more than the losses, are rare. Most of them would have been losing the money eventually over time.

Dont get into the delusion that huge wins are possible and are coming, they are not and keep a control over your betting habit to make sure you dont go bankrupt.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It gaves them experienced that they can improve to make a better outcome on their next session, those who are positive to keep improving their skills will see that as edge, while for those who are just aiming to have some fun and already have that acceptance whatever the outcome they will not be affected that much, as they move forward and look for another opportunities to test their luck and make it possible for them to win if it's permitted then enjoy some decent profits.

My best experience when gambling, and what I've lost, has been purely because of the lessons I've learned. First, don't gamble with more money than you're willing to lose. I've done it, and the results have been disastrous. It's something I don't recommend If we fall into the temptation of gambling with more money, we must accept the consequences and avoid harming ourselves Lessons learned, for example, not gambling with a slightly larger amount.

[HustleZ]

I decided to check the history of some of my gambling results in some of the casinos, sport bets I’m using and I find out I’m winning or gaining more money in gambling than I’m losing. After finding out this today I believe there are people who are winning in gambling more than they are losing.
As for me I can lose 3 to 4 bet slip in a week but if I win 1 or 2 it will recover all the money I lost and I will still have additional money.

Go through your history in some of the  casinos, sport bets you are using and tell use if you are losing more or gaining more.

You are profitable in the long Run because you gamble with proper risk management as your 1 to 2 bets cover the losses of 4 to 5 bets. Not everyone is that focused/disciplined in a field like gambling which is common to make people greedy and results in them losing money. It can be profitable but think that's in rare cases. I always say that sports bets are somewhat better than other games based only on luck, although every type of gambling is risky and not recommended by me but sports betting is a little more predictable so betting in sports category may be the reason you are winning more than losing.

[xenomorfo]

There's a very interesting point: we must be very optimistic people with high morale so that things or small failures don't affect us. It's known that in the gambling process, losing is the most common outcome, but we must be smart, bet with money we're prepared to lose, and that's it. If we lose, we must take it with the highest possible maturity and that's it, not insist on something that doesn't make sense. Sometimes we're lucky, sometimes we're not; that's the first thing we must accept.

It's not about being optimistic or pessimistic here, it's about understanding what the game is.
The game is a game, do you necessarily have to put a lot of money into it to have fun?
If so, the problem lies there, not elsewhere.

Even very little money is enough to have fun.

[xenomorfo]

Obviously, you can't always win, otherwise the casinos would go bankrupt, and no one runs a business that's guaranteed to fail. In Italy, for example, we have the SuperEnalotto. When it happens, the winnings are huge, but it's extremely rare for anyone to get a 6 in the SuperEnalotto. That's why the winnings are so high.

Also you do not have to be a casino that pays more than it makes, you could always pay less than you earn. In a lottery example, don't know how it works in Italy, but in my nation when there is a lottery, the tickets for example say is 1 dollar, then they sell 100 million of those, so the lottery company makes 100 million, they pay rewards as 90 million, so some people make money, not all of it goes to one person, one person makes a lot but it's distributed like second place and third place and so forth. In the end, the company makes a profit too.

No, the Super Enalotto you have to identify 6 numbers ranging from i to 90, it has nothing to do with sport.
You have to guess these numbers, there are a lot of them, if you guess all 6 you win a huge prize, in every draw often nobody wins, so the money accumulates like a jackpot.

[Satofan44]

Going through bet history, the number of losses will invariably be more than the number of wins cumulative.

The people who are winning more than losing and considering the amount in wins is more than the losses, are rare. Most of them would have been losing the money eventually over time.

Dont get into the delusion that huge wins are possible and are coming, they are not and keep a control over your betting habit to make sure you dont go bankrupt.

Actually a rarely correct post here, congrats. Many people are in all sorts of delusions here and write all kinds of nonsense advice. It is absolutely not possible to become one of "those people" inasmuch as it is not possible to become a lottery winner simply because one wants to become one and because some people exist who are lottery winners. Exceptions in practically everything exist, and this should not be a reason to change the thinking of people ever but the problem is that most of the users of this forum -- but also people in general -- do not even have the most basic knowledge in statistics. If they did, they would not dose themselves with hopium of becoming a grand winner in a game that is rigged towards losing.

My best experience when gambling, and what I've lost, has been purely because of the lessons I've learned. First, don't gamble with more money than you're willing to lose. I've done it, and the results have been disastrous. It's something I don't recommend If we fall into the temptation of gambling with more money, we must accept the consequences and avoid harming ourselves Lessons learned, for example, not gambling with a slightly larger amount.

In other threads there are some idiotic users that are suggesting that one should not concern themselves much with losses and simply play more, clearly they are delusional idiots. This kind of approach leads to the situations that you have described. You end up gambling with more money and losing even more. One must stay true to the discipline and bankroll management, everything else is childish and wrong.

[Pandu Geddon]

You are profitable in the long Run because you gamble with proper risk management as your 1 to 2 bets cover the losses of 4 to 5 bets. Not everyone is that focused/disciplined in a field like gambling which is common to make people greedy and results in them losing money. It can be profitable but think that's in rare cases. I always say that sports bets are somewhat better than other games based only on luck, although every type of gambling is risky and not recommended by me but sports betting is a little more predictable so betting in sports category may be the reason you are winning more than losing.

That is what every gambler must do, managing their betting risks. Indeed, sports betting allows us to win in the long run, but there are also many sports bettors who complain about finding it difficult to win. Mostly because they are too daring to take risks, and tempted to win bigger with higher odds. In casino games, it is also possible for gamblers to win big, but perhaps not consistently in the long term.

[Muba20]

You are profitable in the long Run because you gamble with proper risk management as your 1 to 2 bets cover the losses of 4 to 5 bets. Not everyone is that focused/disciplined in a field like gambling which is common to make people greedy and results in them losing money. It can be profitable but think that's in rare cases. I always say that sports bets are somewhat better than other games based only on luck, although every type of gambling is risky and not recommended by me but sports betting is a little more predictable so betting in sports category may be the reason you are winning more than losing.

That is what every gambler must do, managing their betting risks. Indeed, sports betting allows us to win in the long run, but there are also many sports bettors who complain about finding it difficult to win. Mostly because they are too daring to take risks, and tempted to win bigger with higher odds. In casino games, it is also possible for gamblers to win big, but perhaps not consistently in the long term.

In sports betting, if someone bets within their ability, they can survive for a long time, but the big problem is that whenever the bettors win a few bets, they tend to bet aggressively. After that, the gambler cannot survive for long, even if his bankroll is high at that time, it does not take long for it to end. I have seen some gamblers who used to bet very cautiously in the beginning, but as soon as the bankroll increased, their plans started changing. No matter how much money the gambler wins, that money will not last long. There is a slight difference in the case of casinos, In this platform if luck does not favor, it would be very difficult to survive. Moreover, the winning streak is less than in sports betting.

[Pandu Geddon]

That is what every gambler must do, managing their betting risks. Indeed, sports betting allows us to win in the long run, but there are also many sports bettors who complain about finding it difficult to win. Mostly because they are too daring to take risks, and tempted to win bigger with higher odds. In casino games, it is also possible for gamblers to win big, but perhaps not consistently in the long term.

In sports betting, if someone bets within their ability, they can survive for a long time, but the big problem is that whenever the bettors win a few bets, they tend to bet aggressively. After that, the gambler cannot survive for long, even if his bankroll is high at that time, it does not take long for it to end. I have seen some gamblers who used to bet very cautiously in the beginning, but as soon as the bankroll increased, their plans started changing. No matter how much money the gambler wins, that money will not last long. There is a slight difference in the case of casinos, In this platform if luck does not favor, it would be very difficult to survive. Moreover, the winning streak is less than in sports betting.

That is why it is important for bettors to understand how to manage risk in betting. Start by limiting the number of bets according to your budget, such as 3-5 bets per session. Once finished, just continue the next day. Regarding becoming more aggressive in betting, that requires control and adjustment. Everything can be habituated, but if a bettor is used to increasing risk by becoming more aggressive after a few wins, it is indeed difficult to address, except for a losing streak that stops it.

[impulse709]

Some gamblers may still in loss after several winning because they have incurred series of losses in the past. So while considering profit people should always check there gambling history to know if they are in profit or in loss.

This is very significant, but personally I know that many players don't see this, firstly because it already happened, secondly because I'm sure it would lower morale, and thirdly because they should only consider what has been achieved. It's better this way because motivation grows and there's no reason for sadness or anything apparent that lowers spirits. A player's spirits should always be high.

yes that's right a player spirit should always be  high even if they are winning or losing.  This can only be through if the gambler have the right mindset towards gambling. Those gambler that sees gambling as a game of luck won't allow losing to affect there spirit because they know before hand that is either a win or a loss. However for those gambler that thinks that there winning is as a result of there gambling skills and experience will be affected whenever they lose.

It gaves them experienced that they can improve to make a better outcome on their next session, those who are positive to keep improving their skills will see that as edge, while for those who are just aiming to have some fun and already have that acceptance whatever the outcome they will not be affected that much, as they move forward and look for another opportunities to test their luck and make it possible for them to win if it's permitted then enjoy some decent profits.

The fact is that there are players who seem to lose a win, yet it is mostly a matter of discipline, mentality and monitoring their results in the long run. As stated, most gamblers refuse to see the entire history of their lives since this can be demoralizing, but it is the history that provides the actual image. It takes a good attitude, either you think of gambling as a game of luck or a game of skill and experience, but you have to accept both of them. The former who are ready to learn through the losses end up doing better with time whereas the latter who are just here to have fun are not vulnerable emotionally and may even record gains here and there.

[drangos]

Some gamblers may still in loss after several winning because they have incurred series of losses in the past. So while considering profit people should always check there gambling history to know if they are in profit or in loss.

This is very significant, but personally I know that many players don't see this, firstly because it already happened, secondly because I'm sure it would lower morale, and thirdly because they should only consider what has been achieved. It's better this way because motivation grows and there's no reason for sadness or anything apparent that lowers spirits. A player's spirits should always be high.

yes that's right a player spirit should always be  high even if they are winning or losing.  This can only be through if the gambler have the right mindset towards gambling. Those gambler that sees gambling as a game of luck won't allow losing to affect there spirit because they know before hand that is either a win or a loss. However for those gambler that thinks that there winning is as a result of there gambling skills and experience will be affected whenever they lose.

It gaves them experienced that they can improve to make a better outcome on their next session, those who are positive to keep improving their skills will see that as edge, while for those who are just aiming to have some fun and already have that acceptance whatever the outcome they will not be affected that much, as they move forward and look for another opportunities to test their luck and make it possible for them to win if it's permitted then enjoy some decent profits.

Most of you made good arguments regarding mentality and its contribution in gambling. Some might be in a position to win more than they lose but it usually comes to down to discipline and knowing their entire history. Losses in the past could be ignored to help spare morale, however, it could result in a false impression that it is making a profit. It is desirable to remain positive but in a moderate manner with reality. Controlled gamblers who will take any losses and wins as well as think about their performance will find it easier to keep up with the times and not experience major long-term losses.

[Satofan44]

That is what every gambler must do, managing their betting risks. Indeed, sports betting allows us to win in the long run, but there are also many sports bettors who complain about finding it difficult to win. Mostly because they are too daring to take risks, and tempted to win bigger with higher odds. In casino games, it is also possible for gamblers to win big, but perhaps not consistently in the long term.

Nonsense, not even 1% of gamblers are winning in the long run. What you wrote is the opposite of what actually happens. The longer you play, the higher the likelihood that you are going to lose. Winning big and being in profit is only possible in the short term due to variance in the randomness of results. Continuing to play long term means that the results will converge to the expected outcome, which is that the platform makes money and the player loses money. Just because a few cases of people exist that have managed to profit (allegedly, and not objectively proven) that does not mean that it "allows you to win the in the long run".

In sports betting, if someone bets within their ability, they can survive for a long time, but the big problem is that whenever the bettors win a few bets, they tend to bet aggressively. After that, the gambler cannot survive for long, even if his bankroll is high at that time, it does not take long for it to end. I have seen some gamblers who used to bet very cautiously in the beginning, but as soon as the bankroll increased, their plans started changing. No matter how much money the gambler wins, that money will not last long. There is a slight difference in the case of casinos, In this platform if luck does not favor, it would be very difficult to survive. Moreover, the winning streak is less than in sports betting.

What is this "survive for a long time" supposed to mean? Slowly lose your money without going bankrupt very fast? If so, then yes that is possible for many and I agree with that.

The fact is that there are players who seem to lose a win, yet it is mostly a matter of discipline, mentality and monitoring their results in the long run.

That doesn't even make sense, how does someone lose a win? It is not possible according to the use of language to declare something like this. If you place a bet on something that is a win, you will win. There is no other possibility, anything else is made up nonsense.

It takes a good attitude, either you think of gambling as a game of luck or a game of skill and experience, but you have to accept both of them. The former who are ready to learn through the losses end up doing better with time whereas the latter who are just here to have fun are not vulnerable emotionally and may even record gains here and there.

It is not a game of skill and experience, and it is usually delusional addicts who believe this kind of nonsense. It is a game of random variance, nothing else and nothing more. Everything that comes into it, are just factors that have some influence on the variance but not that much. Nobody on this whole forum got rich from gambling, people are delusional.

[nara1892]

So far, I don't know whether I win or lose more, but judging by the activities we're involved in, I can conclude that I seem to lose more than I win, because in gambling, the percentage of losses is always much higher than wins. However, I also believe that there will always be some gamblers who win more, such as those who hit big jackpots because they were lucky enough.
As for checking betting history, I think it depends on individual preference. For me, it's not that important because I always gamble with a small amount of money I'm prepared to lose.

[rezakurnia66]

I decided to check the history of some of my gambling results in some of the casinos, sport bets I’m using and I find out I’m winning or gaining more money in gambling than I’m losing. After finding out this today I believe there are people who are winning in gambling more than they are losing.
As for me I can lose 3 to 4 bet slip in a week but if I win 1 or 2 it will recover all the money I lost and I will still have additional money.

Go through your history in some of the  casinos, sport bets you are using and tell use if you are losing more or gaining more.

Usually the gambler not post yet when the loss position but most excited showing at social media story when getting huge winning amount exactly at sport betting. Normally someone will privacy and hidden at loss position but showoff when winning although the ration winning under 10% but loss dominance more than 90%.
If gambling for have fun only I believe the gambler not care yet about how much ratio dominance loss than win because their purpose in gambling to earn much profit but want to have fun only.

[Y3shot]

So far, I don't know whether I win or lose more, but judging by the activities we're involved in, I can conclude that I seem to lose more than I win, because in gambling, the percentage of losses is always much higher than wins. However, I also believe that there will always be some gamblers who win more, such as those who hit big jackpots because they were lucky enough.
As for checking betting history, I think it depends on individual preference. For me, it's not that important because I always gamble with a small amount of money I'm prepared to lose.

Gambling is just a game of luck, and for sure it is not everyone who will have an opportunity like this. But whether you lose or win, I don't think the outcome of gambling is a problem because you can really get what you want; you just need to be lucky. Like I said, the outcome of gambling is not really a problem as long as one is gambling with an amount that can't be afforded to lose.

But if you are gambling with the mindset to have fun, then it is a good thing. In gambling, you can't really decide for your win to be more; that is why it is important to have the understanding to gamble with the amount that you can afford to lose.

[nara1892]

So far, I don't know whether I win or lose more, but judging by the activities we're involved in, I can conclude that I seem to lose more than I win, because in gambling, the percentage of losses is always much higher than wins. However, I also believe that there will always be some gamblers who win more, such as those who hit big jackpots because they were lucky enough.
As for checking betting history, I think it depends on individual preference. For me, it's not that important because I always gamble with a small amount of money I'm prepared to lose.

Gambling is just a game of luck, and for sure it is not everyone who will have an opportunity like this. But whether you lose or win, I don't think the outcome of gambling is a problem because you can really get what you want; you just need to be lucky. Like I said, the outcome of gambling is not really a problem as long as one is gambling with an amount that can't be afforded to lose.

But if you are gambling with the mindset to have fun, then it is a good thing. In gambling, you can't really decide for your win to be more; that is why it is important to have the understanding to gamble with the amount that you can afford to lose.

Yes, that's what I think too. As long as I stay within my planned limits, such as betting small amounts, I don't think I need to bother with such checks. I think I'll start evaluating my approach to gambling more when I run into financial problems that I fear are due to my gambling.
What you said is absolutely true. One of the reasons we're always advised to gamble with small amounts is because we don't know whether we'll win or lose. Minimizing large losses is far more important.