Strait of Hormuz now open?

[summonerrk]

After cruise missile attacks, anyone's desire to sail through the strait plummets, while the price of oil rises.
What's next? Trump is a clown, of course, but he's no fool. He must understand that if a blockade didn't work last time, it won't work this time either. So what do we do?
The only sensible response is massive strikes to force Iran to agree to a deal (even though we know it won't work, but don't spoil the surprise).
Reporter: You've been bombing Iran for months now. Has this become the new normal for the American people?
Trump: No. Well, you know, we were in Vietnam for 19 years. We've only been here four months. We're just moving forward. Tonight, we attack them. We're destroying all their capabilities related to the strait, the Strait of Hormuz. And I think, eventually, we'll just get it under control.
Well, well, let's see how he does it.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Iran’s foreign minister, Abbas Araghchi, said on Telegram that the strait “is open to everyone, except American ships and those of its allies.”

US is demanding for their ships and that of Israel's or other allies to be passed through the strait but Iran is standing on their ground. This might anger US even further and since they have threatened to further cause destruction in Iran, we might not see this war end soon. If the strait was opened, this could offer some relief for other countries not really part of this war. But will it really be successful? Can they really pass through the strait with this chaos ongoing?

Even with this statement, it still feels that we are stuck doomed and keep expecting oil prices to keep rising.

This is my first time coming across this thread and my comment is going to be based on the last news I read and or heard about the strait of hormuz..

First, several weeks ago, I read that the strait was opened and that ships can pass again, and that every country can then go about their business as the war has ended, this announcement was made by the US president Donald Trump himself through his official social media handle..
Then I think about a week later or so, it was announced that Iran turn around and attacked a ship that belonged to the US and as such, their peace deal was tarminated.

After this, I've not heard or read anything on this subject again, I don't know if the war continued after the peace deal was tarminated or the both countries later reached a resolution, but one thing I know is that fuel is still very expensive in my country, it used to be cheaper but it went up the moment the war between USA and Iran broke out, and since then, it has remained at almost the same price, so probably the war is still on I guess? And any chances this can end any time soon? Cus I believe if the war comes to an end, fuel and other things should become cheaper in my country.

[MRY]

After cruise missile attacks, anyone's desire to sail through the strait plummets, while the price of oil rises.
What's next? Trump is a clown, of course, but he's no fool. He must understand that if a blockade didn't work last time, it won't work this time either. So what do we do?
The only sensible response is massive strikes to force Iran to agree to a deal (even though we know it won't work, but don't spoil the surprise).
Reporter: You've been bombing Iran for months now. Has this become the new normal for the American people?
Trump: No. Well, you know, we were in Vietnam for 19 years. We've only been here four months. We're just moving forward. Tonight, we attack them. We're destroying all their capabilities related to the strait, the Strait of Hormuz. And I think, eventually, we'll just get it under control.
Well, well, let's see how he does it.

The choice of bombing Iran strategic assets is clear indication that there was a desire to dominate major trading routes in the world. But history teache that military action alone is not usually effective in creating lasting stability in war torn countries. Instead of using diplomacy, bombs are going to only extend the uncertainty. Whether this control is actually obtained or it will fail is now just a waiting game to the world as I am sure that some of the leading powers will not sit back and watch this happen to Iran.

[puloweh555]

Yes. Finally, tensions between the US and Iran are heating up again. Donald Trump announced on social media that his administration has officially reimposed the Iran blockade policy. Furthermore, Trump has proposed imposing a 20% security fee on all commercial cargo passing through the Strait of Hormuz. What confuses me is Trump rationale, claiming this measure is intended to target Iran's freedom of movement without disrupting other countries. If this trend continues, peace between the US and Iran will be difficult to achieve.

Abbas Araghchi also strongly criticized Trump unilateral claim of a new role as a guardian of the Strait of Hormuz. He said the US was born yesterday, while Iran has been guarding Hormuz for thousands of years. He even said that before Trump's 20% tariff, Iran was no longer allowed to charge tolls in the Strait of Hormuz, but the US is doing the opposite. This is of course a completely insane act of hypocrisy on Trump part.

[pooya87]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

Closing the strait means sinking one or more ships inside the strait and because it is a very narrow path that is most importantly very shallow, these sunken ships would make transition impossible for months since salvaging them would take like 6 months.
The strait has always been open and in 100% control of Iran since it is Iranian waters and an Iranian strait and the gateway into the Iranian Gulf (Persian Gulf).

The only thing that changes was whom Iran allowed to use it.

Obviously after the US regime carried out a series of terrorist attacks against Iranian people, the Iranian people shut it down on the enemy and its Evil Axis.
However, after 40 days when US military was defeated, the US regime capitulated and accepted Iran's orders as the victor. The famous 10 articles. And an MoU was signed which mandated the US regime to release the money they had stolen from Iran, end the economic terrorism against Iranian people, pay for the damage they caused, etc. and in return Iran would start easing the restrictions on the Strait.

What happened was that the US regime broke the MoU they had signed and carried out more terrorist attacks against Iranian people (like bombing the fisherman's port in south of Iran last week). So obviously Iran started retaliating hard against the US targets obliterating dozens of their bases and re-imposed the restrictions on the Strait.

So obviously whomever does not obey the law and does not sign up first on Persian Gulf Strait Authority at https://www.pgsa.ir/ to receive permission to pass the strait is breaking the law specially when they shut down their positioning system and try to use cover of the night to pass the strait illegally and endanger everyone and maritime traffic. There has already been a couple of collisions because of this.

So obviously Persians as the law enforcement inside the Persian Gulf and the Persian Strait have to enforce the law. Which means giving them a warning first and when they don't listen they will be fired at.

[Franklyn-wood]

After cruise missile attacks, anyone's desire to sail through the strait plummets, while the price of oil rises.
What's next? Trump is a clown, of course, but he's no fool. He must understand that if a blockade didn't work last time, it won't work this time either. So what do we do?
The only sensible response is massive strikes to force Iran to agree to a deal (even though we know it won't work, but don't spoil the surprise).
Reporter: You've been bombing Iran for months now. Has this become the new normal for the American people?
Trump: No. Well, you know, we were in Vietnam for 19 years. We've only been here four months. We're just moving forward. Tonight, we attack them. We're destroying all their capabilities related to the strait, the Strait of Hormuz. And I think, eventually, we'll just get it under control.
Well, well, let's see how he does it.

The choice of bombing Iran strategic assets is clear indication that there was a desire to dominate major trading routes in the world. But history teache that military action alone is not usually effective in creating lasting stability in war torn countries. Instead of using diplomacy, bombs are going to only extend the uncertainty. Whether this control is actually obtained or it will fail is now just a waiting game to the world as I am sure that some of the leading powers will not sit back and watch this happen to Iran.

I thought the Iranian government and US government came to an agreement concerning the straight of Hormuz, but it is like the terms and  conditions giving to the Iranian government was not favourable.
What exactly do Trump want by his constant interest in the straight of Hormuz. I feels ther are hidden agenda that is yet to be explained to the general public about Trump continues bombing aside having a full control of the straight of Hormuz. I also came across a post where Trump said USA will now become the Guardian of the straight of hormuz, and demanded a 20% reimbursement on every cargo shipped. This to me is trying to show that they are the world power overriding Iran as the world power.

[DrBeer]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

Closing the strait means sinking one or more ships inside the strait and because it is a very narrow path that is most importantly very shallow, these sunken ships would make transition impossible for months since salvaging them would take like 6 months.
The strait has always been open and in 100% control of Iran since it is Iranian waters and an Iranian strait and the gateway into the Iranian Gulf (Persian Gulf).

The only thing that changes was whom Iran allowed to use it.

Obviously after the US regime carried out a series of terrorist attacks against Iranian people, the Iranian people shut it down on the enemy and its Evil Axis.
However, after 40 days when US military was defeated, the US regime capitulated and accepted Iran's orders as the victor. The famous 10 articles. And an MoU was signed which mandated the US regime to release the money they had stolen from Iran, end the economic terrorism against Iranian people, pay for the damage they caused, etc. and in return Iran would start easing the restrictions on the Strait.

What happened was that the US regime broke the MoU they had signed and carried out more terrorist attacks against Iranian people (like bombing the fisherman's port in south of Iran last week). So obviously Iran started retaliating hard against the US targets obliterating dozens of their bases and re-imposed the restrictions on the Strait.

So obviously whomever does not obey the law and does not sign up first on Persian Gulf Strait Authority at https://www.pgsa.ir/ to receive permission to pass the strait is breaking the law specially when they shut down their positioning system and try to use cover of the night to pass the strait illegally and endanger everyone and maritime traffic. There has already been a couple of collisions because of this.

So obviously Persians as the law enforcement inside the Persian Gulf and the Persian Strait have to enforce the law. Which means giving them a warning first and when they don't listen they will be fired at.

Just one simple question, after which banned substances did the IRGC junta decide that the Strait of Hormuz belongs to it, and that it can impose conditions on anyone, demand compliance with some fake laws, and require some kind of clownish registration?
So, can anyone,with actual arguments, provide a LOGICAL explanation instead of the opium-fueled delusions of the IRGC junta?
I think that, for example, Oman, the UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, or even Pakistan could also come up with their own laws about the Gulf, registration, and other nonsense. But they’re SENSIBLE and understand just how ridiculous and stupid this looks

[summonerrk]

This is a rare instance, as you can see, where Trump's words match his actions. You can probably count those on one hand. After all, as we see from this information, Trump stated that America would intensify its bombing of Iran until it stopped attacking ships in the Strait of Hormuz and opened this important waterway.
This is the fourth night in a row that American forces have been striking Iranian military facilities. Iran is retaliating by shelling American bases in Kuwait, Bahren, and other Persian Gulf countries. A month ago, the US and Iran signed a temporary agreement, but it essentially fell apart due to a dispute over control of the Strait of Hormuz. Because of the conflict, oil prices, as I said again, have skyrocketed. It remains to be seen what they will be tomorrow.

[bubilas]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

There's no end in sight to this mess, even in the long term. Trump's words are like empty water; they carry no weight, and I'm rather surprised when they rarely correspond to reality. And this is the president...
The war is gaining momentum and shows no signs of stopping. Oil prices are rising, inflation risks are growing, and both sides are accusing each other of violating agreements. Basically, this is the core of the global problem right now, and until it's resolved, markets will remain volatile. Incidentally, I note that no one has even mentioned the nuclear program lately.

[Mame89]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

There's no end in sight to this mess, even in the long term. Trump's words are like empty water; they carry no weight, and I'm rather surprised when they rarely correspond to reality. And this is the president...
The war is gaining momentum and shows no signs of stopping. Oil prices are rising, inflation risks are growing, and both sides are accusing each other of violating agreements. Basically, this is the core of the global problem right now, and until it's resolved, markets will remain volatile. Incidentally, I note that no one has even mentioned the nuclear program lately.

It seems there's no intention of ending this chaos, especially from the US. They've negotiated several times, as if they're simply re strategizing. This is evident in the numerous negotiations, but the US continues to violate its agreements. When the US attacks Iran again, it's only natural that Iran retaliates, especially regarding security in the Strait of Hormuz. The Strait of Hormuz has now become a key factor in this war, with both countries claiming to be the guardians of the Strait of Hormuz even though legally that's Iran prerogative.

The longer this war rages, the more volatile its impact will be on volatile energy prices. The US has always been adept at negotiating when their energy reserves run low, allowing the Strait of Hormuz to reopen. But when their energy reserves run low they start attacking again. This happens repeatedly. The nuclear issue from yesterday's negotiations will indeed be resolved after peace is achieved, as it's impossible to discuss nuclear issues within two months it would certainly take a long time. Israel is the most vocal opponent of this nuclear issue, having previously stated that they would attack Iran until the nuclear issue is resolved.

[Johnlomape]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

There's no end in sight to this mess, even in the long term. Trump's words are like empty water; they carry no weight, and I'm rather surprised when they rarely correspond to reality. And this is the president...
The war is gaining momentum and shows no signs of stopping. Oil prices are rising, inflation risks are growing, and both sides are accusing each other of violating agreements. Basically, this is the core of the global problem right now, and until it's resolved, markets will remain volatile. Incidentally, I note that no one has even mentioned the nuclear program lately.

There is something the media is not telling us concerning the strait of Hormuz that has been causing issues over and over again after so many seize fire we have been hearing about from the news.

The US government is not ready to end this war and they continue to call off the seize fire after so many arranged agreements to end the war and make peace to allow the passage of ships to pass through so that the price of oil can be restored. I think Trump is making money from this war and that is why so many of the generals are happy for the war to continue since they have investments in many of companies produce ammunition for the United States military.

[Fredomago]

Lets get one thing clear: the Strait of Hormuz was never closed.

There's no end in sight to this mess, even in the long term. Trump's words are like empty water; they carry no weight, and I'm rather surprised when they rarely correspond to reality. And this is the president...
The war is gaining momentum and shows no signs of stopping. Oil prices are rising, inflation risks are growing, and both sides are accusing each other of violating agreements. Basically, this is the core of the global problem right now, and until it's resolved, markets will remain volatile. Incidentally, I note that no one has even mentioned the nuclear program lately.

There is something the media is not telling us concerning the strait of Hormuz that has been causing issues over and over again after so many seize fire we have been hearing about from the news.

The US government is not ready to end this war and they continue to call off the seize fire after so many arranged agreements to end the war and make peace to allow the passage of ships to pass through so that the price of oil can be restored. I think Trump is making money from this war and that is why so many of the generals are happy for the war to continue since they have investments in many of companies produce ammunition for the United States military.

I won't be surprise if even in this kind of situation there are business owners who might be link to hose powerful officials that really generating profits, but the concern here is the safe passage way, while both Iran and US seems to have their own position and with the temporary seize fire might be compromised, another sets of conflict may again put this passage way in danger, and that danger will affect every countries who's leaning their oil to the place, expect heavy price increase with another sets of attacks from US and Iran we never know what will happen after.

[Cookdata]

I thought the Iranian government and US government came to an agreement concerning the straight of Hormuz, but it is like the terms and  conditions giving to the Iranian government was not favourable.
What exactly do Trump want by his constant interest in the straight of Hormuz. I feels ther are hidden agenda that is yet to be explained to the general public about Trump continues bombing aside having a full control of the straight of Hormuz. I also came across a post where Trump said USA will now become the Guardian of the straight of hormuz, and demanded a 20% reimbursement on every cargo shipped. This to me is trying to show that they are the world power overriding Iran as the world power.

You can't make peace and be making threat with the same country, that's not how to make peace. If you want to make peace, you have to be consider the other person you are making peace. You want peace and you are making threats with conditions? Who does that. Iran is a sovereign state, they have the right to ask for what is good for them, they request for good terms with the peace US is asking and the United state think they have the right to choose for them.

Let's assumed that the demand of Iran is high, there are ways to go about setting things to favour both party, many countries has been in war before, I'm not sure but this is not even the worse we have seen but both parties came to good terms and everything came to an end. However, I feel US is pained on this one because Iran has leverage in this war which is making them weaker to the face of the world, they have not battle with Iran this hard.

[fruktik]

There is something the media is not telling us concerning the strait of Hormuz that has been causing issues over and over again after so many seize fire we have been hearing about from the news.

The US government is not ready to end this war and they continue to call off the seize fire after so many arranged agreements to end the war and make peace to allow the passage of ships to pass through so that the price of oil can be restored. I think Trump is making money from this war and that is why so many of the generals are happy for the war to continue since they have investments in many of companies produce ammunition for the United States military.

Naturally, Trump and his influential circle are making money off this war. He stupidly admitted it yesterday, saying he'd made 50 times more money from oil than he did in Caracas. Such things should be hushed up, but this idiot doesn't understand reality. He can't keep his mouth shut. He's giving away state secrets.

Yes, the war in Iran will continue as long as Trump remains president, as far as I'm concerned. He's speculating on it. He's already made a fortune. What a bastard. I hope he gets it all back.