Use a metal backup to keep your seed phrase safe.

[hd49728]

Even a metal plate won't save worthless holders from losing their bitcoins, as such incompetent users will manage to lose it too. First and foremost, personal responsibility for storage needs to be improved.

Metal plate is only a type of wallet backup that is good against physical threats like fire, water, acid, erosion, pressure and so on but basically wallet backups must be stored secretly and only the owners know about their wallet backups. Exceptions are people who will inherit those bitcoins in such wallets and wallet backups.

Metal plate in other words can not prevent bitcoin loss similarly to other wallet backup types if people lose their wallet backups to someone else. Not only metal plate but all other wallet backups can not keep bitcoin of these holders safely if they are carelessly enough to lose their wallet backups in either online hacks or physical attacks.

[TokenTikas]

then another backup will recover the wallet. Remember, if someone steals your wallet seed phrase, whether it's metal plates or paper writing, your funds will be stolen as well.

There’s another thing that can be maintained for better security and that is how you store your seed phrase. What I mean is, if you slightly arrange or write the seed phrase in a different pattern while storing it, it can be more secure. Only the wallet owner will understand how the seed phrase was originally arranged. Even if someone gets access to it, they won’t be able to easily reconstruct it to access the wallet. To me, this feels like an important point, that’s why I decided to share it.

[SilverCryptoBullet]

There’s another thing that can be maintained for better security and that is how you store your seed phrase. What I mean is, if you slightly arrange or write the seed phrase in a different pattern while storing it, it can be more secure. Only the wallet owner will understand how the seed phrase was originally arranged. Even if someone gets access to it, they won’t be able to easily reconstruct it to access the wallet. To me, this feels like an important point, that’s why I decided to share it.

By doing that, the wallet owners must be very careful with how they do that and be disciplined with their patterns. It should be a fixed pattern so that they will always how to use that pattern and wallet backup for recovery later.

Any method is only good if they can use the backup and any extra things for recovery later, while if they fail with wallet recovery in the future, such creative backup methods and extra security layers will turn to be very foolish method. As extra security layers are for increasing security and prevent hackers or bad people to access their wallets, but not serve purpose of preventing the original owners accessing their wallets.

[Akbarkoe]

That's a good idea but until now I haven't used a hard tool to write down my seed phrase, I still use paper and old-fashioned cellphones, and for a few years it's still quite safe, as long as my neighbors don't know I'm in contact with bitcoin it's very safe, if my wife of course I trust her, even if she will steal my bitcoin I will be sincere with her because I love her. 
I don't know, I haven't thought of using hard media to store the words, I'm still calm and there is no problem.
Don't forget to include CCTV to monitor who might enter your secret room, to anticipate other unexpected things.

I am still saving the seed phrase in the same way you suggested. My situation has not yet prompted me to save the seed phrase on a hard drive. For me, paper and a secret place to save the seed phrase are still safe enough. I maintain the most confidentiality when it comes to saving funds, one fund is not a lot of money. I avoid saving all my eggs in one basket, but rather create different funds and save funds in each of them in parts.

Although I will not tell you the secret trick to saving the seed phrase. Keep it secret from neighbors and relatives, write down the seed phrase in a place where it is always safe. You can even save the words in a formula or a hint sentence. Or you can keep the words in a picture that only you will understand.

I am quite confident that everyone who has known bitcoin for a long time and how to secure it according to their respective environmental conditions will have a way to secure it properly, therefore it is very important to have an understanding of its security.
And it is true that it is not necessary to keep eggs in one basket, we must have another basket to anticipate things that might be detrimental, I also do that, because this is a very safe way.
Whether it's using formulas or drawings and so on, it's good as long as we ourselves are confident enough in what we're doing and know what the risks are, it's safe.

[Pi-network314159]

actually this type of metallic plate stamp backup is good i prefer the crypto steel capsule for backup than this metallic plate backup, but however all are still good because it is dust proof, water proof and fire proof or resistant. provided that it is not going to be affected by any of the climate condition weather sun or rain. apart from this, more backup is needed for safety and self security.

[Pablo-wood]

There’s another thing that can be maintained for better security and that is how you store your seed phrase. What I mean is, if you slightly arrange or write the seed phrase in a different pattern while storing it, it can be more secure. Only the wallet owner will understand how the seed phrase was originally arranged. Even if someone gets access to it, they won’t be able to easily reconstruct it to access the wallet. To me, this feels like an important point, that’s why I decided to share it.

This isn't a a bad idea at all. But it still comes with its own down side, what happens in a case of memory loss or even death. For memory loss there is little or no chance that the owner of that wallet will remember how those words were originally arranged and in the case of death no one else understands the correct arrangement of the seed phrase. To me I will engrave it in a metallic storage then keep it where I am so certain no one else has access to.  Someone very reserved for me alone.

[uchegod-21]

This backup method can only prevent water, fire and dirts from destroying the seedphrase, but if it is not properly kept, it can be stolen and wallet emptied. So newbies, do not think that because you have a metal backup you are safe, you still have the responsibility of storing it properly where no other eye would see except yours.

[JunaidAzizi]

That's a good idea for storing your seed phrase, and it is almost resistant to water and fire, which is another plus point for its security. However, if the seed is safe from scammers, fire, water, earthquakes, and everything that can cause physical damage, how will you keep it safe from theft? If someone sees it, they will definitely rob it and use it for their purpose. You can do one thing, which is to bury it under a tree or a sign that you can remember, that would be a good option. Otherwise, a thief will not leave it.

[Rustam Meraj]

Yes marking your words on stainless steel is perfect safety against fire and water, however, reports have shown that business is moving to more tough way that is not based on single real item. Although I support your idea of steel, I must point out here that marking of metal may be hard job and likely to have mistakes in mind of total beginner, with most experts now recommending use of so-called Smart Wallets that give Group Recovery to help in resetting entry code without 24 word list.
I think the best answer now is to follow mixed plan such as MPC or 25th word code so that, even in case that thief can find your steel plate, he or she cannot steal your money.
Basically main goal is to make sure that you have total control over your money and it doesn't matter which method you are using to store your phrase.

[tech30338]

We may consider putting backup phrase in metal but the problem what about the people who don't have the tool to curve it, are they going to spend for the tools for it, on the other hand if they ask people to curve it it will expose the seed phrase to other people they might have interest and write it down, now its compromise.
I would say its okay for people who have the equipment but for the people who don't have better find a way to keep the seed phrase, no need to be more complicated, make sure its easy for you to access and hard to others i just think that it should need to be simple, for us but harder for others to reconized.

[m2017]

We may consider putting backup phrase in metal but the problem what about the people who don't have the tool to curve it, are they going to spend for the tools for it, on the other hand if they ask people to curve it it will expose the seed phrase to other people they might have interest and write it down, now its compromise.

Tools for "writing" onto metal are readily available as ready-made kits, or you can buy the same tools individually (which is cheaper but more time-consuming).

If your savings are at stake, you'll probably find reasons to spend money on this, not just for fun or another beer on the weekend.

You'd have to be a complete idiot to trust someone else with "writing" seed-phrases.

I would say its okay for people who have the equipment but for the people who don't have better find a way to keep the seed phrase, no need to be more complicated, make sure its easy for you to access and hard to others i just think that it should need to be simple, for us but harder for others to reconized.

Initially, it's acceptable to write down the seed phrase even on plain paper (multiple copies), but as soon as possible, it's safer to use a metal plate (as soon as possible).

Using a metal plate isn't a complication, but rather an increase in the security of the seed phrase.

Overcomplicating it for potential "others" by encrypting and reshuffling the words of the seed phrase can also hinder access to your wallet. Don't overdo it.

[dkbit98]

Using a metal plate isn't a complication, but rather an increase in the security of the seed phrase.

That is the worst mistake you can make, even if you think that person don't know anything about bitcoin.
I saw this tools used for writing on metal can be found dirt cheap on aliexpress and temu, so there is no excuse.
I am also sure this tools can even be purchased locally, same as stainless steel washers and plates.

[ayomarcelle]

So as a newbie coming into Bitcoin investment you need to understand this and keep your seed phrase safe and the best way to do that is by engraving or stamping your seed phrase on stainless steel just like the picture above, and the reason why it is seen as the best is because of it’s resistance to fire, water and physical damage to some extent.
So all Newbies should use this method, especially those who are planning on holding for long term, because it’s more safe.

I think as the seed phrase is a key of vital importance for Bitcoin and crypto assets, it must be safeguarded. The root cause of most losses or thefts lies in the insecure storage of this phrase. Therefore, for beginners like myself the priority should be secure backup. Physical methods such as engraving or stamping onto stainless steel are a sensible choice as they are more resistant to fire, water and mechanical damage. However, i think no method offers an absolute guarantee. Steel plates can also be damaged! They can be stolen or fall into the wrong hands! That is why I believe it is wise to use multiple geographically dispersed and secure storage layers...

[puloweh555]

This backup method can only prevent water, fire and dirts from destroying the seedphrase, but if it is not properly kept, it can be stolen and wallet emptied. So newbies, do not think that because you have a metal backup you are safe, you still have the responsibility of storing it properly where no other eye would see except yours.

When storing your seed phrase it's best to have at least three backups, including a metal backup that's resistant to water, fire, corrosion and physical damage.

Bitcoin wallet security truly depends on you, as this is a core principle in the crypto world. Therefore, we need to use a cold wallet, and you must also secure your seed phrase. So, essentially storing your seed phrase depends on you. No matter how securely you store your seed phrase carelessness is useless. As you said, you create phrases as your "Vault." You hold the key and you are 100% responsible. Because one small mistake could wipe out all your assets forever.

[Cookdata]

However, i think no method offers an absolute guarantee. Steel plates can also be damaged! They can be stolen or fall into the wrong hands! That is why I believe it is wise to use multiple geographically dispersed and secure storage layers...

Guarantee is subjective to the end user, if you use a metal steal plate. I don't think there is any physical factor that is going to compromised your metal plate  than it been stolen. If you properly make a back and you can't keep it hidden for good, you don't even deserve the metal plate, it's better you use a paper than using metal plate and end up been stolen. Even in hot temperate regions, metal steal plate like titanium has more than 1000 degree melting point, unless you hide it in hell fire.

When storing your seed phrase it's best to have at least three backups, including a metal backup that's resistant to water, fire, corrosion and physical damage.

Bitcoin wallet security truly depends on you, as this is a core principle in the crypto world. Therefore, we need to use a cold wallet, and you must also secure your seed phrase. So, essentially storing your seed phrase depends on you. No matter how securely you store your seed phrase carelessness is useless. As you said, you create phrases as your "Vault." You hold the key and you are 100% responsible. Because one small mistake could wipe out all your assets forever.

You can decided to have 10 backups, that's up to you, as long as you can get access to them and no one else. However, in any of the method you feel like doing, metal plate should be your priority, reason is they don't get damage, they are not fragile and resistant to fire, of all the physical back ups you can think of, don't do online back up, that defeat the purpose of Bitcoin security while the rest also depend on how you keep the back up.

[Youngrebel]

It would have been better you have used it before telling others to use it. And since you got the image from online for illustration purpose, you have not seen it before. And to get that metal or stainless steel in my area is not possible or not easy so it is better we use the local backup method we have been told to use.

[notocactus]

It would have been better you have used it before telling others to use it. And since you got the image from online for illustration purpose, you have not seen it before. And to get that metal or stainless steel in my area is not possible or not easy so it is better we use the local backup method we have been told to use.

You can buy them if it is available for you to purchase it and it's feasible with your financial condition too. If there are no existence of such conditions on your side, you can use traditional backup methods such as writing the wallet seed phrase (mnemonic seed) on the paper and keep it safe.

Paper pieces are good for wallet backups but they're only not resistant to water, fire, acid, erosion, pressure, and other physical damages. You must store your paper wallet backups very safely in secure and secret locations as well as inside something like vaults that can protect paper pieces against physical damages or at least reduces such damage severity.

[Joeboy]

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You are right, you will an experience person that can help you engrave these worlds into a metal plate for you to keep safe. Since you can’t do it alone, you will need someone with no experience in crypto currency, or you should just monitor the process from the beginning to the end so that you will ensure there is no duplicate or any form of copy of your seed phrase to avoid getting access to the wallet in your absence.

Furthermore, you can also be smart enough to rearrange the words in the way that only you can understand it so that anyone helping you can not know the right arrangement of your seed phrase and it will be even safer when saving incase someone have glance or see it will not know the right arrangement of your words that only you will have access to the wallet.

That's a very risky move... Seedphrase are meant to be arranged exactly the way your wallet app generated it, if that arrangement is altered for whatever reason, there is no guarantee that you that made the alterations will even remember the correct arrangements... And when those words are not properly arranged, then that bye bye to your asset, unless that person is good at guessing..

Maybe the better solution is already in your first paragraph, which is seeking the assistance of someone who is ignorant about cryptocurrency/or seedphrase... But the again, that could prove quite difficult since it is difficult tell/ or know someone who is or is not knowledgeable about seedphrases/or cryptocurrency just by merely looking at them.. It is not as if it is boldly written on the forehead if someone is experienced or he isn't, and it just would be very wield if you start questioning the person/or people before asking for their services...And even someone is inexperienced in cryptocurrency, he could cram those words and give it to someone who is professional..

And so I think the best solution is to do the engravement yourself, research on how it is been done or better still seek tutoring from the professionals on how it is been done... Even though the inscriptions you make on the metal plate aren't perfect or clean, what matters the most is that you could very well understand what you wrote...

[DYOR+BTC]

It would have been better you have used it before telling others to use it. And since you got the image from online for illustration purpose, you have not seen it before. And to get that metal or stainless steel in my area is not possible or not easy so it is better we use the local backup method we have been told to use.

Just as mentioned above it is very difficult getting the metal or stainless saving steel for our seed phase but easy accessing the old traditional saving tool, so i will say the best is to continue with what we have after all if not for the recent case of a divorced woman stealing from her ex husband's account I am not sure if there have been issues of such. One important thing we most know about our seed phase is, it is a confidential property that should not be realised even on truth as we can't tell alls characters.

[Abu-Naim]

Furthermore, you can also be smart enough to rearrange the words in the way that only you can understand it so that anyone helping you can not know the right arrangement of your seed phrase and it will be even safer when saving incase someone have glance or see it will not know the right arrangement of your words that only you will have access to the wallet.

That's a very risky move... Seedphrase are meant to be arranged exactly the way your wallet app generated it, if that arrangement is altered for whatever reason, there is no guarantee that you that made the alterations will even remember the correct arrangements... And when those words are not properly arranged, then that bye bye to your asset, unless that person is good at guessing..

Rearranging the words I mean here is for security reason if you don’t know if the person you are given the phrase to engrave for you have knowledge about Bitcoin or not; the rearrangement will be based on you. You can just reshuffle the words in the way only you can understand so that the words arrangement will not be the right arrangement as at the time of engraving so that who ever have access to the seed phrase cannot get access to your wallet since the arrangement is not correct; only you should know the right arrangement of the words for security reasons.