Betting on others suggestion

[Pandu Geddon]

Of course, I have bet based on a friend's suggestion. But when I did it, I was definitely with friends and watching the match of that bet. They didn't force me to bet more. In fact, when they also wanted to make it more exciting, some of them added money to make the bet bigger. The winnings were usually spent on paying for drinks and food at that time. It wasn't something forced, but that's how we had fun.

Well, this is really a enjoying thing for you and your friends. In this way, if all the friends bet together, it will be much more enjoyable when win. Even if they lose, they don't feel so bad mentally. Because here no one forced them to bet, they themselves contributed. As a result, the match became more exciting. And this is also an example of gambling being played for entertainment purposes.

There are many ways for us to enjoy gambling. Although some of us certainly aim to make money, not just have fun. After all, there is a chance to make money from betting. 
The excitement together when winning and also losing in such bets is very interesting. When losing, there will still be words blaming whoever suggested the bet. But that is just a teasing or a joke to lighten the mood with laughter. In reality, nothing is serious in such betting.

[tbterryboy]

Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me.

No, he has no right to ask you for commission because I'm sure he wasn't going to cover if the bet lost. If he was joking about it and you gave him some randomly, it would make sense but if he sounds demanding, as you mentioned he did, then it's totally wrong of him.

Then he got upset.

His getting upset when you refused to give him money leads me to think he is either going through tough times or he is addicted to gambling and wants some money so that he can go and gamble it.

Has such an incident ever happened to you?

Mine was a funny one. I met someone on telegram who claimed to have sure bets, and I decided to give it a try. He won the first 2-3 bets and I actually paid him, but then he lost and upon asking, he said it can happen every once in a while. Then he went to lose 2-3 more and never replied lmao

[allfriends88]

I would always call that an entitlement mentality because he forcefully demanded for what he would have probably gotten without even asking but he felt the need to mention it. I bet with people's suggestions and whenever I win I don't normally deal with such problems. He is too desperate and overly entitled. Just like you said, people are different in reasoning, what he did was a display of immaturity.

Then he's thought about so much on gaming and thinks he's making a positive prediction that deserves to be paid for, but from the look of it, the friend is close to addictions, being this entitled means a wrong habit and could lead to a beef between the two bettors, looking at how the suggestor followed up Op for his share of the money.

Yes, addiction can be one reason why someone asks for what isn't theirs. The op's friend might want to gamble but doesn't have any money, so asking for what isn't theirs from the winnings, even though they contributed to the predictions, even if the op and the person are close friends, it feels highly inappropriate.
But let's say it's not an addiction, honestly, there will always be friends like that, friends with a beggar's mentality.
Or, as I always say, there will always be people who want profits but don't want to make a deposit.

[Creeper0]

If there is no agreement between us before betting and he does not take responsibility for the loss, then why would I give a share of the winnings to someone? Even if it is a friend. Even in a friendly relationship, it is normal, but it is not based on rights, but in friendly behavior, a party can demand some money from you. It is only in friendly behavior, if he demands it as a right, then I will never accept the claim. Because the money is mine, the risk is mine and we are not under contract, then I am not willing to give my money to anyone. It is still not wrong to take advice for betting, if there is no such friend.

[puloweh555]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

Yes. It often happens when we follow other people's advice when we win, they'll ask for a small portion of our winnings. I've also experienced this myself, but my friend didn't ask but I took the initiative to give him some money. Since I won, he knew it so it felt awkward if I didn't give him some. But that's in the past.

Now, I'm more comfortable gambling by following my own instincts and doing my own research, because for me, it brings a sense of satisfaction, whether we win or lose. As you said, if you follow someone else's advice when we lose we're responsible for it ourselves and we don't get any satisfaction. But if you follow your instincts, even when we lose we feel satisfied and don't feel hurt because we gambled based on our own choices and our own analysis. After all the purpose of gambling is to seek satisfaction winning will increase our enjoyment and losing doesn't matter.

[jostorres]

I have been in similar situation and have gifted friends from my winnings before but they never approached me demanding for a cut. I am wary of friendships that can easily be broken by money problems. It wasn’t right for your friend to demand a percentage of your winnings, it is a sense of entitlement that should not be encouraged in your relationship.

I agree that this should be something that is talked beforehand, and not afterwards. Plus, if a "friend" is really a friend, they would not pressure something like this after the fact.

If someone is not partners with you when you lose, then they are not entitled to a dime you win. Doesn't matter if they suggested, if you won thanks to their suggestions that's great, but would they share your loss on your suggestion if you lost? If they share the possible future loss as well, then it's fine, I would share sure, but I bet you that they won't.

[Findingnemo]

My only advice is never make bets or wager more money based on the influence of others which can cause disputes whether it will end up in a win or loss. And in this case you don't owe him any money but if you gave him already better not to make the same mistake again in the future.

[rachael9385]

My only advice is never make bets or wager more money based on the influence of others which can cause disputes whether it will end up in a win or loss. And in this case you don't owe him any money but if you gave him already better not to make the same mistake again in the future.

It's not wrong to make bets based on the influence of others but it all depends on the person that's giving you suggestions. In this case he must have known the kind of person he's dealing with since they are friends, not everyone would give you betting tips and expect something I'm return when the game turns out to be successful. He doesn't actually owe him money because no agreement was made but in order for peace to reign giving him a cut was the smartest thing to do

[danherbias07]

My only advice is never make bets or wager more money based on the influence of others which can cause disputes whether it will end up in a win or loss. And in this case you don't owe him any money but if you gave him already better not to make the same mistake again in the future.

I agree to that. It's also to avoid blaming others when a mistake happens. I mean, it's not like all predictions are 100 percent accurate. Some of them will fail even if they are on a good winning streak. If ever we provide some money for those who helped us achieve a win, it's okay, but we should let them get used to that custom, especially if we also need the money more.
I've seen sports bettors who provide money for giveaways in the chatbox of Stake.com, and it was fun. But they are sometimes abused by those who will receive the money and manage the giveaways. Sure, it's nice to give back to others, but this is gambling. Not everyone will be thankful for it.

[Z_MBFM]

I have had this experience in the past, when betting was mostly done in gambling shops. Then there were people that are always present in the shop daily and they pose as expert and easily convince people to abandon what they have in mind and play their supposed shore games which usually end up failing miserable whereas the games they kill usually turn out to be the real thing. I stop listening to any suggestions a long time ago and even if I want to listen to another, I will first play my prediction before playing any other thing suggested by another.

Everyone says that they are gambling only for fun, if that is what it is, then why should they play on the suggestions of others? There is no joy in playing on the suggestions of others, there is only the expectation of winning and the expectation of profiting from it. Those who are responsible enough in gambling never gamble on the suggestions of others. I never gamble on the suggestions of others, but I have seen some people who take the suggestions of others and their results were never very good and at the end of the day they lost their money and their fun.

[Unsoldier]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

It’s very strange to hear that a friend is asking for a cut of the winnings just because he suggested betting on a team. I could understand if he asked for a treat, like a drink or just coffee and a pastry. But demanding money for advice is not what I’d call friendly. As the OP said, if the bet had lost, the friend wouldn’t have taken any responsibility or covered the losses, yet he somehow feels entitled to a share of the winnings.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

If there is no agreement between us before betting and he does not take responsibility for the loss, then why would I give a share of the winnings to someone? Even if it is a friend. Even in a friendly relationship, it is normal, but it is not based on rights, but in friendly behavior, a party can demand some money from you. It is only in friendly behavior, if he demands it as a right, then I will never accept the claim. Because the money is mine, the risk is mine and we are not under contract, then I am not willing to give my money to anyone. It is still not wrong to take advice for betting, if there is no such friend.

For the sake of peace, you can actually agree to give them a percentage just to please them but that will teach you a different lesson which is that next time you don't have to bet on their games unless there's a certain agreement that has been reached between you both, then you can agree to take their prediction next time. You know, when some things don't happen between us and our friends, we can not actually know some certain behavior that they have. You just have to avoid issues at time and learn from the situation.

[qwertyup23]

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Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

First of all, this happened to me in the past but my friend did not demand or even compel me to give him a percentage of my winnings. In fact, I even gave him some cash as a courtesy for the suggestion but in no way did he require me to do such thing.

Second, if your friend really compelled you to give money, then he’s not your friend after all. If he really knows what he’s doing, perhaps he could’ve risked his own money OR he could’ve at least informed you that a win on your part would automatically render him some cash along the way.

Personally, you should not always follow the suggestion of others especially if you’re relying on your efforts. You could use their suggestions as a tool for information but relying solely on their tip without any active participation and effort on your part is risky.

[UpTober]

I will answer your question directly that I never bet on someone else's advice or increase the amount of money I bet if someone else tells me to. I have a good understanding of sports and I know that the decision I make will not be in my favor and if the result goes against me then I can still accept it but if I bet a lot of money because of others and I lose the bet then it will be difficult for me to accept that so I think it is important to always believe in yourself and it is more important to make your own decisions.

[liasbaa]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

I have personally taken advice from many experienced and close friends in betting. Sometimes I have lost and sometimes I have won in those bets. Even though the result of each bet was good or bad, no one has ever asked for anything in return for the advice. If the advice is conditional your friend can collect a fee from you but if it is forced it is not be fair. You may not have wanted to get into any trouble with him, so you paid him as per his instructions, which we can call a consultation fee.

[SPIDERMAN008]

I am sharing a personal story. A few days ago, my friend and I were discussing which team to bet on in a match. Then he told me to bet on his favorite team according to his suggestion. I bet on it as per his suggestion. He forced me to bet more money. Because he was saying that this team will win. Without thinking much, I bet on it as per his suggestion. I even won that bet. . Later, when I met him, he demanded a % of the profit from me. He was demanding it from me in such a way that it seemed like he was getting it as his right. The reason he was saying was that I won according to his prediction. But I refused to give it because if that bet lost, he would not take responsibility for it. Then he got upset. Even though it cost me some money, I gave him some money. Because I didn't want there to be any trouble between us..

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

I have personally taken advice from many experienced and close friends in betting. Sometimes I have lost and sometimes I have won in those bets. Even though the result of each bet was good or bad, no one has ever asked for anything in return for the advice. If the advice is conditional your friend can collect a fee from you but if it is forced it is not be fair. You may not have wanted to get into any trouble with him, so you paid him as per his instructions, which we can call a consultation fee.

Consultation fee is a kind of service. A fee can be appropriate for this only when that service is useful. And I do not think that giving gambling advice or giving an opinion on betting in favor of a particular person will be considered a consultation fee. Usually, consultation fees are charged because giving advice on any subject is considered a profession. And if some friend wins a bet according to the advice, he demand some %, then he should take risk before giving advice. If he had made such a commitment, then his demand would have been justified.

[nimogsm]

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

This needs to be agreed upon in advance. If you lost, according to his logic, would you demand half from him? That's complete nonsense. There's a type of person who thinks only about themselves and their own interests. Perhaps you should think about your friendship and from now on keep money separate and friendship separate, and then such situations will not arise again.

[jcojci]

Has such an incident ever happened to you?
Or do you ever bet based on someone else's suggestions?

This needs to be agreed upon in advance. If you lost, according to his logic, would you demand half from him? That's complete nonsense. There's a type of person who thinks only about themselves and their own interests. Perhaps you should think about your friendship and from now on keep money separate and friendship separate, and then such situations will not arise again.

If he demand half from you while you win, you only gets half amount, if you feels good, you can continue and not complain with him. If friendship has turn out because of money, then that is not friendship anymore. You should not let money along your friendship so nothing bad will happens to you and your friend. It is not good situations if our friendships damage because of money. But if that happens, we should let him walk away and difficult to accept us as his friend.

[jeremypwr]

For the most part if I am going to make a bet it will be based off of my own decision.
Betting on others suggestions falls in the same category as betting what a tipster tells you.
In my opinion it defeats the purpose and takes away a lot of the entertainment factor.