Is this an abuse of merit & something else or maybe I got it wrong?

[Su-asa]

while all of his "colleagues" were caught abusing the bounty. We can expect further merit exchanges from these accounts to our alternative accounts.

While raising one issue, another possible cheating concern also came up. What makes it more suspicious to me is that the user is not active on the forum but immediately showed up to post right after being mentioned. That part really feels unusual. My question is, when he received 50 merit for such a post, shouldn’t he have been curious himself about why that kind of post got so much merit? Also, since there are links to bounty abuse issues, it raises more doubts and it feels possible that he might have other alternative accounts on the forum.

Yes, I completely agree with you on this. No matter how meticulously a thief steals, he leaves some kind of evidence.

I am a new person in this forum, I am not very knowledgeable about anything, but I am revealing some things based on what I have learned or what has come to my attention. That is, if we look at the merit transactions of the people who have sent merit to CryptoATM, we will see that some people have given their merit repeatedly and all the accounts are similar in terms of transactions.

Especially if we talk about SuperBitMan's account, we will see. Although we did not find SuperBitMan's transactions with CryptoATM, almost all the accounts that have transacted with CryptoATM have transactions with SuperBitMan. It seems to me that SuperBitMan and CryptoATM may have been connected to each other from some point in time. I would like to raise this issue and present one thing to you, that all these accounts may be related to each other and they may be abusing Merit.

Emjay24

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445913.msg66040664#msg66040664
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500380.msg66000838#msg66000838
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5488107.msg64734193#msg64734193

Su-asa

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376945.msg65980496#msg65980496
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561682.msg65962863#msg65962863
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563097.msg65954665#msg65954665

Please forgive me if there is any mistake in my comment.

I still can't get your point, what are you trying to prove here? That my Su-asa account is connected to Superbitman or what?

[SuperBitMan]

while all of his "colleagues" were caught abusing the bounty. We can expect further merit exchanges from these accounts to our alternative accounts.

While raising one issue, another possible cheating concern also came up. What makes it more suspicious to me is that the user is not active on the forum but immediately showed up to post right after being mentioned. That part really feels unusual. My question is, when he received 50 merit for such a post, shouldn’t he have been curious himself about why that kind of post got so much merit? Also, since there are links to bounty abuse issues, it raises more doubts and it feels possible that he might have other alternative accounts on the forum.

Yes, I completely agree with you on this. No matter how meticulously a thief steals, he leaves some kind of evidence.

I am a new person in this forum, I am not very knowledgeable about anything, but I am revealing some things based on what I have learned or what has come to my attention. That is, if we look at the merit transactions of the people who have sent merit to CryptoATM, we will see that some people have given their merit repeatedly and all the accounts are similar in terms of transactions.

Especially if we talk about SuperBitMan's account, we will see. Although we did not find SuperBitMan's transactions with CryptoATM, almost all the accounts that have transacted with CryptoATM have transactions with SuperBitMan. It seems to me that SuperBitMan and CryptoATM may have been connected to each other from some point in time. I would like to raise this issue and present one thing to you, that all these accounts may be related to each other and they may be abusing Merit.

Emjay24

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445913.msg66040664#msg66040664
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500380.msg66000838#msg66000838
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5488107.msg64734193#msg64734193

Su-asa

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376945.msg65980496#msg65980496
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561682.msg65962863#msg65962863
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563097.msg65954665#msg65954665

Please forgive me if there is any mistake in my comment.

You are a coward for hiding behind your aIt account to post this nonsense.
come out with your main account if you are a real human being, I guess you won’t because you are just a big fool and a coward.
Why are you even mentioning just two account that have sent me merit and I have sent merit to too, they are so many, let me help you with the recent lists.
Mitchell
DireWolfM14
LoyceV
Mia Chloe
igebotz
The Cryptovator

Me and all this account are also connected I guess, you big fool, people like you are suppose to be at the Zoo because you think and reason like an animal.

[Su-asa]

while all of his "colleagues" were caught abusing the bounty. We can expect further merit exchanges from these accounts to our alternative accounts.

While raising one issue, another possible cheating concern also came up. What makes it more suspicious to me is that the user is not active on the forum but immediately showed up to post right after being mentioned. That part really feels unusual. My question is, when he received 50 merit for such a post, shouldn’t he have been curious himself about why that kind of post got so much merit? Also, since there are links to bounty abuse issues, it raises more doubts and it feels possible that he might have other alternative accounts on the forum.

Yes, I completely agree with you on this. No matter how meticulously a thief steals, he leaves some kind of evidence.

I am a new person in this forum, I am not very knowledgeable about anything, but I am revealing some things based on what I have learned or what has come to my attention. That is, if we look at the merit transactions of the people who have sent merit to CryptoATM, we will see that some people have given their merit repeatedly and all the accounts are similar in terms of transactions.

Especially if we talk about SuperBitMan's account, we will see. Although we did not find SuperBitMan's transactions with CryptoATM, almost all the accounts that have transacted with CryptoATM have transactions with SuperBitMan. It seems to me that SuperBitMan and CryptoATM may have been connected to each other from some point in time. I would like to raise this issue and present one thing to you, that all these accounts may be related to each other and they may be abusing Merit.

Emjay24

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445913.msg66040664#msg66040664
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5500380.msg66000838#msg66000838
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5488107.msg64734193#msg64734193

Su-asa

• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376945.msg65980496#msg65980496
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5561682.msg65962863#msg65962863
• https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5563097.msg65954665#msg65954665

Please forgive me if there is any mistake in my comment.

You are a coward for hiding behind your aIt account to post this nonsense.
come out with your main account if you are a real human being, I guess you won’t because you are just a big fool and a coward.
Why are you even mentioning just two account that have sent me merit and I have sent merit to too, they are so many, let me help you with the recent lists.
Mitchell
DireWolfM14
LoyceV
Mia Chloe
igebotz
The Cryptovator

Me and all this account are also connected I guess, you big fool, people like you are suppose to be at the Zoo because you think and reason like an animal.

I'm sure the psychopath doesn't even know what merit farm or what merit abuse looks like, well I guess the psycho is just seeking for attention he will never get.

[The Cryptovator]

It seems the merit sender's account has changed hands or been hacked. I will keep monitoring his activity; email and password have both been changed. It's a matter of doing more deep investigation; it would be better if someone else could do it. Because the sender only used one Bitcoin address at once, and it's very old, it's likely he doesn't have access. Regarding merits, it's pretty clear to me as merit abuse. Since theymos isn't strict about such cases, I won't tag them from my end for merit abuse. But probably I will tag it for changed hands; I need more evidence.

About alt accounts, address connections on the blockchain aren't sufficient evidence for me lately. It doesn't make sense to tag these accounts when they could just create another and start bounty hunting again. If these are higher-ranked accounts, then it's a matter of more deep investigation and tagging them. They are spammers; if you tag them, they will just move to a new account. Farming is easy for bounty hunters, but hard for signature participants.

[lovesmayfamilis]

About alt accounts, address connections on the blockchain aren't sufficient evidence for me lately. It doesn't make sense to tag these accounts when they could just create another and start bounty hunting again. If these are higher-ranked accounts, then it's a matter of more deep investigation and tagging them. They are spammers; if you tag them, they will just move to a new account. Farming is easy for bounty hunters, but hard for signature participants.

If you carefully check the list of the farm to which the recipient of 50 merits belongs, you will see that, roughly speaking, they "disdained" participating in simple bounties, and all this "team" subscribed and sent spam, participating in the signature of companies, regularly replenishing their ranks with new accounts to which merits were sent from each other.
Sometimes, to stop such a mess, it is necessary to mark such accounts with red tags. At the very least, they need time to open a new account and gain new merits or ranks, and time is something they don't have, as they are greedy enough to develop a single account.

I have come to realize that you are judging from the past experience of others which absurdly wrong.

Why? Try to explain. Is it true that your past doesn't affect your present?

[CryptoATM]

About alt accounts, address connections on the blockchain aren't sufficient evidence for me lately. It doesn't make sense to tag these accounts when they could just create another and start bounty hunting again. If these are higher-ranked accounts, then it's a matter of more deep investigation and tagging them. They are spammers; if you tag them, they will just move to a new account. Farming is easy for bounty hunters, but hard for signature participants.

If you carefully check the list of the farm to which the recipient of 50 merits belongs, you will see that, roughly speaking, they "disdained" participating in simple bounties, and all this "team" subscribed and sent spam, participating in the signature of companies, regularly replenishing their ranks with new accounts to which merits were sent from each other.
Sometimes, to stop such a mess, it is necessary to mark such accounts with red tags. At the very least, they need time to open a new account and gain new merits or ranks, and time is something they don't have, as they are greedy enough to develop a single account.

I have come to realize that you are judging from the past experience of others which absurdly wrong.

Why? Try to explain. Is it true that your past doesn't affect your present?

Regardless of all you've accused me, I'm sincerely pleading that you review your tag please
I am not part of any farm
Please I really feel bad that you are red tagging for what I know nothing about and I swear with everything in me that I have been in the forum too long to be called a farmer account and it is really unfair and I can send you all my smerit if you think I wouldn't know how best to distribute them because you are typically tagging me because you think I wouldn't know how to distribute my merits

[nutildah]

The one basic reason you tagged me was for receiving 50 smerits from an inactive account which I have no single relationship with

I'm looking at the tag and that's not what it says. It says you're an alt account, which is true. The evidence in lovesmayfamilis screenshot is clear enough that your account is connected to the farm being described. Anybody with a reasonable understanding of how things work around here can look at the screenshot and come to the same conclusion.

This is really unfair and this is total oppression and abuse of DT

You should ask whoever sold you this account for a refund.

[CryptoATM]

The one basic reason you tagged me was for receiving 50 smerits from an inactive account which I have no single relationship with

I'm looking at the tag and that's not what it says. It says you're an alt account, which is true. The evidence in lovesmayfamilis screenshot is clear enough that your account is connected to the farm being described. Anybody with a reasonable understanding of how things work around here can look at the screenshot and come to the same conclusion.

This is really unfair and this is total oppression and abuse of DT

You should ask whoever sold you this account for a refund.

I'm really feeling oppressed here and sincerely I don't know what to do to prove myself at this point and I am seeking the attention of @theymos which I believe should by my hope now to come intervene in this because this is really unfair

Is it also wrong to change password?

The account that sent me merit should also say something please because I have no relation with all of this and I am the original owner of my account from its creation

@theymos please I humbly plead for your attention in this case because I feel very oppressed except you also permit this kind of judgment please

[Awaklara]

The account that sent me merit should also say something please because I have no relation with all of this and I am the original owner of my account from its creation

The focus of this thread was initially indeed to highlight the abuse of Merit on your account. But the issue with the tags on your account points to cheating in the bounty campaign.
You might be able to prove how your address is connected to the accounts that have already been shown. Because it is unlikely to be a coincidence that the situation of accounts sharing Merit turns out to have interconnected addresses.

[AakZaki]

I'm really feeling oppressed here and sincerely I don't know what to do to prove myself at this point and I am seeking the attention

Is it also wrong to change password?

The account that sent me merit should also say something please because I have no relation with all of this and I am the original owner of my account from its creation

 please I humbly plead for your attention in this case because I feel very oppressed except you also permit this kind of judgment please

Did your brain hit a wall, so that it became stupid? So far you are still feeling the most hurt, even though the evidence is clear that your account is on the same bounty with many accounts connected.

Again I will verify the evidence so that you are enlightened, note the proof below that you are in the same bounty as the Synerggy account, which the Synerggy account is connected to you according to transactions on the Blockchain.

Bounty ApeSwap

TXHash

Remember, it's not about changing your password, it's about your account being cheating. and it deserves a negative tag.

If you still feel that you did not do it, then it means you bought the account, and the previous seller of that account committed the cheat.
But if you believe that it's your account since its creation, then you are indeed committing cheat yourself. It's that simple.

[nutildah]

This guy... What a clown.

I'm really feeling oppressed here

(close enough)

I am seeking the attention of @theymos which I believe should by my hope now to come intervene in this because this is really unfair

Lol. Can you imagine if theymos intervened in stuff like this? "Hey guys, your negative trusts are a bit harsh on this guy so I'm removing them."    Don't hold out waiting for him to respond, you will be waiting for a very long time.

The account that sent me merit should also say something please because I have no relation with all of this and I am the original owner of my account from its creation

That account is not relevant to your conundrum.

Let me remind you of something, this happened on May 28, 2021. First you transferred some bounty tokens and your entire BSC balance to this address. Less than a minute later, you sent the remaining balance to an address owned by XUR_TIP. It took XUR_TIP 2 minutes to do the same thing: sell the bounty tokens and send the entire remaining BSC balance to another address. This address was funded by CryptoATM (you) and also has incoming transactions from MCcryptonia, who had already been connected to XUR_TIP. Finally, the BSC balance from this address was sent to another account also connected to the farm, CrossroadBTC.



Long story short: multiple, coordinated sends less than two minutes apart, along with a pre-existing body of evidence, strongly suggests you control all of the involved accounts. That is if you are indeed the original owner of this account as you claim.

[TokenTikas]

Did your brain hit a wall, so that it became stupid? So far you are still feeling the most hurt, even though the evidence is clear that your account is on the same bounty with many accounts connected.

I was really surprised seeing that he got huge merits at once but when the matter of several connected accounts came out, I became even more shocked. Even after all these things happening, he is still claiming he is innocent but it has already been revealed that he is involved in some other offences too. Still, I don’t understand why he is behaving like this. It just feels like after getting all those merits at once, his head is not working properly again and that might be why he is acting this way.

One thing that really surprises me is whenever these kinds of merit abuse systems come to light. Because many people make good posts and still manage to get just one or two merits but when you see such a simple post receiving so many merits, it feels quite shocking. Not only that, a few more things have also come out and from those, it becomes clear that he actually engaged in merit abuse.