Stake.com & Rainbet.com relation?

[danherbias07]

Upon reading other reviews from outside this forum, most of them just say it is a copycat of Stake.com. If the question is about the activity on Kick, I think that should only be normal since it's a platform that services live streaming. I don't think there's a connection to it because every gambling platform can use the same service.

I believe this is just because of the comparison of the UI's of both gambling sites, which elevated to a different issue, like ownership or whatever.

[JeffBrad12]

Honestly, it's a very wild theory to linking stake with rainbet, while i believe both of sites have no relationship. Don't you remember about OCM (Observe, Imitate, and Modify) method? This was rainbet doing. That's why you have seen some similarity started by the lay out, theme or even interface.
However, both of sides have owned by different owners. So we can assume rainbet was doing OCM strategy through copying stake's blueprint. This is pretty similar when we have seen of china phone companies were always copy pasting the model of samsung or iphone.

It's to ensure they can get the public attention instantly by using almost the same model to the original phone developed by samsung or Iphone. This is why i think it's a marketing strategy.

[Orpichukwu]

The problem is not with spending the money; the suspensions come from people who are behind Rainbet. They really can't verify their real identity. Rainbet started in 2023, and in 2025 they already have that $50m to hire a streamer. This $50 million is not just a one-time payment, if I'm correct, but it's an annual agreed payment, and $100m was paid upfront according to some source, and some are even arguing that the amount is bigger than what was publicly disclosed.

Is there any problem if the people managing Stake.com are still the owners of Rainbet.com? I thought one particular company was eligible to manage different platforms, or am I getting it wrong?

The money spent on streamers can actually be from the investors and shareholders. Look around, you will find casino brands having other sister casinos. Different name, same owner or market structure behind.

There is no big deal there and nothing wrong about that, and one of the casinos which you are referring to is BetPana and Punkz Casino. I don't see anything wrong as long as both casinos are offering good service and are of good reputation from both sides.

In the case of Stake and Rainbet, I guess people are just trying to satisfy their curiosity, trying to dot the 'i' to see if they are truly co-owned by the same group; other than that, I don't see any other reason for the search.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

The problem is not with spending the money; the suspensions come from people who are behind Rainbet. They really can't verify their real identity. Rainbet started in 2023, and in 2025 they already have that $50m to hire a streamer. This $50 million is not just a one-time payment, if I'm correct, but it's an annual agreed payment, and $100m was paid upfront according to some source, and some are even arguing that the amount is bigger than what was publicly disclosed.

Is there any problem if the people managing Stake.com are still the owners of Rainbet.com? I thought one particular company was eligible to manage different platforms, or am I getting it wrong?

There is no law preventing a group of partners from owning more than one casino platform as long as they have the means of sustaining it, I've not come across one
I don't think so they're same team, but even if it is finally true, I would love to understand it as a form of diversification in business niche and it is working out well for them.

The money spent on streamers can actually be from the investors and shareholders. Look around, you will find casino brands having other sister casinos. Different name, same owner or market structure behind.

They may still have backup funding from a partner unknown to us all, In believe if they were doing something illegal to source funds, the authorities should've been closing in on them by now.

[alani123]

People saying that there's no papertrail to connect Stake and Rainbet...

So what?

For years Eddie was running primedice, his first casino, without even a legal entity and not even pretending to have a license.
It was years later that he came out with his name and all that we realized this site was started by a western kid. So far many were suspecting it was an operation originating in Slavic countries. Even now Stake operates under offshores and behind lawyer offices that offer to register a business entity for anyone. If Eddie didn't want to come out, it could have been entirely possible to remain anonymous or at least very much out of the spotlight.

By this virtue it's also entirely possible that Rainbet.com is registered under a frontman name.

[Hispo]

People saying that there's no papertrail to connect Stake and Rainbet...

So what?

For years Eddie was running primedice, his first casino, without even a legal entity and not even pretending to have a license.
It was years later that he came out with his name and all that we realized this site was started by a western kid. So far many were suspecting it was an operation originating in Slavic countries. Even now Stake operates under offshores and behind lawyer offices that offer to register a business entity for anyone. If Eddie didn't want to come out, it could have been entirely possible to remain anonymous or at least very much out of the spotlight.

By this virtue it's also entirely possible that Rainbet.com is registered under a frontman name.

What would the theoretical advantages of a casino as big as stake to create another casino to divide their traffick and their income in two separate entities?
The only reason I can come up with it would be if there was some kind of monopoly case against Stakes, but that is not the case.
When comes to services online, it is almost impossible for a single conpanity to establish a functional monopoly.

One would also need to keep in mind the operating costs of a second casino.

[Findingnemo]

Maybe or Maybe not, I doubt they will be operating a diffetent casino just to operate in UK regions while rainbet is available on most region as stake so it just cost them double for what? Stake is still the most active crypto casino as far as I remember so they no need to do such stunts I guess.

[YOSHIE]

There's some speculation going on that Rainbet and Stake might be related.

I have often read questions like that on Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, gambling magazines and so on, but they are all just questions and user mistakes when seeing Rainbet or Stake.com often promoted by streamers, I believe Rainbet does not belong to Stake.com they are both different and separate entities, this can be confirmed from several gambling industry sources that I have seen.

For example, a valid statement.

Based on available information, Rainbet is not owned by Stake. Rainbet is a separate crypto casino established in 2023, while Stake is owned by Ed Craven and Bijan Tehrani through Sweepsteaks Limited. They are distinct platforms, often compared as competitors in the crypto gambling space.
• Rainbet: An offshore crypto casino and sportsbook with Curacao licensing.
• Stake.com: A separate entity operating both Stake.com and Stake.us.
No reputable sources or credible Reddit threads indicate any ownership connection between the two.

Here we can understand Rainbet does not belong to Stake.com and both crypto casino sites have nothing to do with each other, both are separate gambling industries and belong to different people.

[o48o]

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What do you think? Could this theory hold merit? Is Rainbet the old Stake that doesn't care about licensing just revamped?

If i was starting a casino, i would definitely copy as many marketing tactics of successful casinos, that i could afford to.

Because why would you invent a wheel again, when there's provably working concept for anyone to use. That's why i am guessing why many casinos have such a similar interface design. Bigger casinos have used worth millions to test what's best, and if there would be better version, they would have probably tried it.

That and the fact that new customers tend to trust on things that have some familiarity in them.

[Cryptomultiplier]

Maybe or Maybe not, I doubt they will be operating a diffetent casino just to operate in UK regions while rainbet is available on most region as stake so it just cost them double for what? Stake is still the most active crypto casino as far as I remember so they no need to do such stunts I guess.

There could be do many possible scenarios from what I have read so far and from what I understand because this is just two different businesses attending to different niche of clients using different or similar marketing stunts or business models to achieve one aim and of which that aim is to make profit.

So whether we believe that Rainbet.com or Stake.com are in a direct ownership or strategic partnership deal, its just a wild guess without paper trail or substantial evidence to prove otherwise, but in business mostly as concerns the gambling industry, there's what is known as 'multi branding' where same owners can own and operate different brands, just to appeal to different niche of clients from the higher class to the lower class per say.

[Sandra_hakeem]

There's some speculation going on that Rainbet and Stake might be related.

I have often read questions like that on Reddit, Twitter, YouTube, gambling magazines and so on, but they are all just questions and user mistakes when seeing Rainbet or Stake.com often promoted by streamers, I believe Rainbet does not belong to Stake.com they are both different and separate entities, this can be confirmed from several gambling industry sources that I have seen.

You might be right. I don't have enough evidence at my disposal.
I saw this topic immediately after it was posted, but since I'm an active promoter, if this is true, then saying anything contrary would feel as though I'm trying to support them at every condition, even when I'm not sure to.

• Rainbet: An offshore crypto casino and sportsbook with Curacao licensing.
• Stake.com: A separate entity operating both Stake.com and Stake.us.
No reputable sources or credible Reddit threads indicate any ownership connection between the two.
Here we can understand Rainbet does not belong to Stake.com and both crypto casino sites have nothing to do with each other, both are separate gambling industries and belong to different people.

Just like yours, and every other theories under this thread, I can agree to some extent that maybe true.

[Findingnemo]

Maybe or Maybe not, I doubt they will be operating a diffetent casino just to operate in UK regions while rainbet is available on most region as stake so it just cost them double for what? Stake is still the most active crypto casino as far as I remember so they no need to do such stunts I guess.

There could be do many possible scenarios from what I have read so far and from what I understand because this is just two different businesses attending to different niche of clients using different or similar marketing stunts or business models to achieve one aim and of which that aim is to make profit.

So whether we believe that Rainbet.com or Stake.com are in a direct ownership or strategic partnership deal, its just a wild guess without paper trail or substantial evidence to prove otherwise, but in business mostly as concerns the gambling industry, there's what is known as 'multi branding' where same owners can own and operate different brands, just to appeal to different niche of clients from the higher class to the lower class per say.

There is no conclusive evidence at all even to make such claim, just because they are using the similar advertising strategy such as being aggressive in all possible channels and try to get the market share. While it can be true though, multiple branding can just give them more revenue but I don't see a connection. And there is a huge difference, stake supports most of the fiat but rainbet offer the fiat deposits?

[passwordnow]

I have no idea on this one but I lately have seen how often rainbet is also advertising in social media using a lot of influencers. There could be some style on how they promote but that doesn't prove authenticity that they're affiliated to each other. But one thing that we can say for the similarity that they have is stake is no doubt a big casino and has a wide community globally. And that's also starting to be seen with rainbet.

[alegotardo]

Pure speculation, I do not see anything concrete in all this because as far as I can see we have two distinct, very successful companies operating in the same field and with similar marketing techniques.

Would you say Coca-Cola and Pepsi are the same company? McDonald's and Burger King too, just because they are similar and use the same marketing strategy? Obviously not!

Successful companies are frequently copied by the competition, I do not see this as a problem or an indication that they might be the same company. The world is cruel and when something is working, the competition copies and tries to ride the same wave because it is "easier" to follow that momentum until they find an idea that is better than the competitor's. That is the marketing we know.

[memehunter]

I would even argue that it is better if both are somehow related to same owner/s. Stake is killing it when it comes to providing best online gambling experience. I mean stats speak for itself. I am seeing things from a average player's perspective and that can only be good thing.

Would you say Coca-Cola and Pepsi are the same company? McDonald's and Burger King too, just because they are similar and use the same marketing strategy?

Who knows? but again who even cares all I want is crisp soda and damn good burger 
 

[Wapfika]

I have no idea on this one but I lately have seen how often rainbet is also advertising in social media using a lot of influencers. There could be some style on how they promote but that doesn't prove authenticity that they're affiliated to each other. But one thing that we can say for the similarity that they have is stake is no doubt a big casino and has a wide community globally. And that's also starting to be seen with rainbet.

Rainbet do dominated now the social media promotion because I saw a lot of gambling influencers already casually promoting Rainbet by adding a part that they will play Rainbet original games before they start or in the middle of the content.

Lots of influencers that I’m following even a IRL casino content creator are already promoting Rainbet.

Only Rainbet is what I frequently viewed now while Stake doesn’t have that kind of style anymore.

[passwordnow]

I have no idea on this one but I lately have seen how often rainbet is also advertising in social media using a lot of influencers. There could be some style on how they promote but that doesn't prove authenticity that they're affiliated to each other. But one thing that we can say for the similarity that they have is stake is no doubt a big casino and has a wide community globally. And that's also starting to be seen with rainbet.

Rainbet do dominated now the social media promotion because I saw a lot of gambling influencers already casually promoting Rainbet by adding a part that they will play Rainbet original games before they start or in the middle of the content.

Lots of influencers that I’m following even a IRL casino content creator are already promoting Rainbet.

Only Rainbet is what I frequently viewed now while Stake doesn’t have that kind of style anymore.

Yeah, I also saw those videos that they're liking hitting on a chick and later on they'll say that wait for a moment they'll just play on that casino with those chickens. So, they're focusing in it and that's the type of marketing that we also saw with stake, who knows if the people working on it are just the same people or they've copied the technique on how stake did it when they're still working through their popularity.

[alani123]

I would even argue that it is better if both are somehow related to same owner/s. Stake is killing it when it comes to providing best online gambling experience. I mean stats speak for itself. I am seeing things from a average player's perspective and that can only be good thing.

Would you say Coca-Cola and Pepsi are the same company? McDonald's and Burger King too, just because they are similar and use the same marketing strategy?

Who knows? but again who even cares all I want is crisp soda and damn good burger 
 

Pepsi and coca cola have reached a level on the current system where they're not allowed to hide as much.
For instance their stock ownership above a certain % of ownership has to be publicised and they have to publish their subsidiaries.
Of course they've known through the years that owning their competitors is a good way to operate in the market. You'll notice that coca cola and pepsi routinely invent or completely buy out entire lines of products. Chips, drinks even water.

Rainbet though doesn't have to go through any reporting requirements like a listed company in the US would have to. It's probably a casino owned and operated by the creators of Stake.com to capture the lost market share when they had to implement KYC and follow licensing rules.

[aphelio_wane]

After Rainbet has become an exclusive sponsor of the slots section on Kick, I think there is little doubt left about who really owns it. In case you missed it, here is a tweet where Rainbet thanks Stake Eddie for the opprotunity.

Tweet

So we all know that Stake owns Kick and they let different casinos promote there. But this kind of partnership is a different thing and actually the last confirmation we needed for certainty.

Afrer the tweet came up, I tried to research the topic and found some extra details here

Actually this investigation and Bitcointalk are all I got. So since this a rather meaningful development, I believe it might be useful to resurrect this older thread to see what you guys all think now.

[Alonso_]

I don’t really think there is anything wrong with Stake.com and Rainbet being related, because I absolutely don’t think there is anything wrong with that Scenario.

Who even cares if such a thing is happening with this companies, personally I don’t think there is anything wrong, business is just business, you can possibly do what is best for business and diversifying into other businesses and companies are allowed.

However if they’re sponsoring streamers, I believe that is a different strategy for them to keep advertising their business not only for the purposes of advertising but for improving their business and creating more publicity.