Why aren't social casino's an actual social casino?

[pixlpunks]

First things first, the definition of a "social" casino probably varies from person to person. What I mean by social casino, is an actual SOCIAL casino. I don't necessarily mean sweepstakes or playing with fake money. I just mean an interactive experience where it feels like you are going to casino with a friend. Not my friend just holding his phone and I sweat alongside next to him on facetime you know?

I just think doing things with friends or in front of an audience makes things more fun and exciting. Even when I'm at the casino playing roulette or craps, it super easy to make friends (not always the case but you know what I mean lol).

I wonder if there is any market for this, or if this is some allegory where like "wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG iF bRoKen, cAsInO aLrEaDy PrOfiTaBle". What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

[Charles-Tim]

If you want a casino that you will interact with people and be social, you can visit the land based casinos instead if this is what you are referring to social casino, but you are wrong because this is not what social casinos are in real life. In social casinos, in-game currencies are used and which can not be withdrawn. Although, it seems that you know this.

[Rruchi man]

I just mean an interactive experience where it feels like you are going to casino with a friend. Not my friend just holding his phone and I sweat alongside next to him on facetime you know?

If social interaction is one of the ways through which you enjoy gambling, then maybe you are one of those who should still provide patronage to land-based physical casinos.

Some major features used to sell the online casino business are ease of access and then privacy. I do not think social interaction as you call it is one of them.

[Davidvictorson]

If social interaction is one of the ways through which you enjoy gambling, then maybe you are one of those who should still provide patronage to land-based physical casinos.

While this may be correct, there are online casinos that have a forum where users can interact virtually with themselves. The forum feature is not as popular. There are also casinos that have telegram channels where users can also interact with one another.

The OP may want to explore these ones if this is a top priority for him in a casino.

[Hispo]

If you want to be social in a brick and mortar casino, there is literally nothing stopping you from being social in one. You can always plan to go gambling with frienda or family.

On the other hand, it is kind of different when comes to online gambling and online casinos in general. People are not so interested in interacting with completely strangers on the internet, but some find them appealing.

There are casinos in which is possible to chat with other gamblers (I would call those casinos to have some social features), while there are others which do not allow us to do anything beyond gambling.

[pixlpunks]

I don't mean to be crass, but I think all of you are wrong. Which is strange because I would think you guys would take into consideration the massive market there is behind STREAMING. There are plenty of people (like literally millions of people) who don't want to visit a "land casino" and instead watch a guy to gamble with and feel part of his community. So to just say that "just go to a land casino" is super reductive, but then that begs the question here, is there an actual underserved market, but if so, why hasn't anyone catered to them?

Surely the big players, like even stake, could put some money from their big ass bankroll to experiment with this idea, but it seems that none of them are experimenting. Just the same old cookie-cutter experiences designed to massively extract value from whales as fast as possible. Unless you guys think I'm actually crazy, but are we all certain there's no way to make online casino's more social? It just reminds me of the super early days of gaming when everything is single player (like most online casino's today) and then once someone cracked the network and revealed that you can play with others, it just took off. I'm speaking from my ass here, but I would argue multiplayer video games generate MUCH more revenue than single player games. Why should a casino game be any different? Money is just a proxy for a high score lol.

[Alphakilo]

I wonder if there is any market for this, or if this is some allegory where like "wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG iF bRoKen, cAsInO aLrEaDy PrOfiTaBle". What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

Telegram and some social media platforms have some features that make gamblers at least be able to interact but not virtually and from my standpoint, the gambling industry may have to innovate to be able to afford the kind of social interaction you desire, but there would have to be a shift from the present RNG to a shared RNG model where everyone sees same thing as they gamble along.
The kind of social interactive development you want casinos to have may require the technology of something like a VR hangout, where the closeness feels more real and makes one feel like in a real casino.

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

I just think doing things with friends or in front of an audience makes things more fun and exciting. Even when I'm at the casino playing roulette or craps, it super easy to make friends (not always the case but you know what I mean lol).

Are you new in the area you are currently leaving, if yes, then please do let me know the environment so I could search out the closest land based casino hall for you so you look it out for yourself, make like minded casino friends and meet up with new people too as well. Do you leave in the United States of America?

If you must be going to such casino ground, please be careful of going in with all your funds, that hall is always much dangerous because Mafia confront players with much money with guns. Just trying to let you know that.

[Potato Chips]

How exactly do we make it more social though. Does anyone have an idea that could work.

Most social I've gotten was probably hanging out in discord server where casinos host events too, and on this forum. I did meet some good people, and it was nice to share stuff with them. There are also chats on some live games, and comment section in prediction market.

Though there are definitely a lot of folks who don't want to be social haha. They just wanna gamble. With people, it can be a hit or miss as well, sometimes you can meet folks who you'll clash with.

[rbynxx]

First things first, the definition of a "social" casino probably varies from person to person. What I mean by social casino, is an actual SOCIAL casino. I don't necessarily mean sweepstakes or playing with fake money. I just mean an interactive experience where it feels like you are going to casino with a friend. Not my friend just holding his phone and I sweat alongside next to him on facetime you know?

I just think doing things with friends or in front of an audience makes things more fun and exciting. Even when I'm at the casino playing roulette or craps, it super easy to make friends (not always the case but you know what I mean lol).

I wonder if there is any market for this, or if this is some allegory where like "wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG iF bRoKen, cAsInO aLrEaDy PrOfiTaBle". What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

So you're saying you want a gambling buddy, a lot of buddy? I think I never seen one being rampant and with some privacy concerns over your identity or probably your bankroll I'd rather be isolated to gamble alone than make some friends because I gamble, that's a no-no. I think these casinos aren't anti innovation they are probably just worry over these concerns in the first place if you think of that social casino.

I think it works on other apps like zynga poker wherein I have an account, someone requested a friend request and I accepted it then when he's online he uses to invite me to his table but it's all just that and we never know each other. I think this will work yeah but I doubt others will want it though.

[jossiel]

What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

I don't think they are.

What is in demand is what they're holding on to because that's where the profit is coming from. They're profit driven businesses and even if there will be some real innovation, I think that I've seen some attempts in the past but none probably of them have became popular.

So, they have all of these case studies that they'll have to rely on and it's possible that if there will be some that will catch the gamblers attention, they'll be quick to innovate and adopt that change.

[EluguHcman]

Let me tell you for free that online casinos don't have that vibe like the physical casinos where you play and meet with new people in the casino arenas.
It is also true that the physical casinos is more fun but when it comes to convenience, online casinos is best considered because it secures players Privacies while accessing the casinos at their comfort private zones.

I only knows about online and physical casinos while I don't have ideal about this social casinos as described.
Moreover the physical casinos is now gaining less interests due to the advancement technology that players can place their bets without going to the casino shop.

[danherbias07]

I think the big question is "How"?

It's innovative if it is done, and it will probably change the view on gambling for many years. Still, it may require a lot of work, especially from an online casino perspective. Most of the time, gamblers prefer the simplest form of gambling, and before and after the pandemic, a single-player game was the most famous of all. Slots, to be exact, and sports betting. It's anti-social, but it works, and I think gambling sites that have been making lots of profits are the proof of that.

[CryptoYar]

Almost all social betting places today are slots with score lists, which does not help need for shared time, but need for deep feel times is now growing fast.
I agree that greedy owners didn't make new things because flat slots are cheap and make lots of money, they are being forced to try and keep up as Young players want same social time they get in games like Fortnite.
I don't think future is about playing near friends on cell phone, but using 3D sound and VR to walk up to digital table and talk to someone, so social part becomes main part.

[Zlantann]

First things first, the definition of a "social" casino probably varies from person to person. What I mean by social casino, is an actual SOCIAL casino. I don't necessarily mean sweepstakes or playing with fake money. I just mean an interactive experience where it feels like you are going to casino with a friend. Not my friend just holding his phone and I sweat alongside next to him on facetime you know?

I just think doing things with friends or in front of an audience makes things more fun and exciting. Even when I'm at the casino playing roulette or craps, it super easy to make friends (not always the case but you know what I mean lol).

I wonder if there is any market for this, or if this is some allegory where like "wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG iF bRoKen, cAsInO aLrEaDy PrOfiTaBle". What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

You have an innovative idea. However, the industry is moving towards setups that will reduce costs and maximize profits. Setting up what you are conceiving might cost more money. However, there are still casinos undestands the importance of the communal area of gambling. And they have provisions for interacting and socialising between players. 

It will not be out of place to develop a business plan about your idea and send it to some casinos. They might find the idea useful.   

[julerz12]

I don't mean to be crass, but I think all of you are wrong. Which is strange because I would think you guys would take into consideration the massive market there is behind STREAMING. There are plenty of people (like literally millions of people) who don't want to visit a "land casino" and instead watch a guy to gamble with and feel part of his community. So to just say that "just go to a land casino" is super reductive, but then that begs the question here, is there an actual underserved market, but if so, why hasn't anyone catered to them?

Surely the big players, like even stake, could put some money from their big ass bankroll to experiment with this idea, but it seems that none of them are experimenting. Just the same old cookie-cutter experiences designed to massively extract value from whales as fast as possible. Unless you guys think I'm actually crazy, but are we all certain there's no way to make online casino's more social? It just reminds me of the super early days of gaming when everything is single player (like most online casino's today) and then once someone cracked the network and revealed that you can play with others, it just took off. I'm speaking from my ass here, but I would argue multiplayer video games generate MUCH more revenue than single player games. Why should a casino game be any different? Money is just a proxy for a high score lol.

So, what you're looking for is a massively multiplayer online crypto casino (MMOCC - I just made this up   )
But, I think that's what you're really looking for, right? A place where people can go (online) with their friends and gamble. This would probably come into fruition if the Metaverse hype didn't die out. I think this would fit nicely in a Metaverse setting. A casino with its own Metaverse where its users can roam around and gamble on virtual tables and slot machines. Unfortunately, Metaverse hype is gone and has been overshadowed by AI, so we may never see such a thing.

[coinrifft]

If you want a casino that you will interact with people and be social, you can visit the land based casinos instead if this is what you are referring to social casino, but you are wrong because this is not what social casinos are in real life. In social casinos, in-game currencies are used and which can not be withdrawn. Although, it seems that you know this.

This is the closest definition of what the OP wanting to see, there is no interaction in online games, of course there are chat in the chat box and you can say that you know the person. But it's not social interaction and obviously online casinos are not social casinos by definition. If you want true social then we should go on traditional casinos wherein you can talk to everyone, from the dealer to the pit boss and to your fellow gamblers. You might have some familiar faces around and recognized them if you are a frequent gamblers on traditional casinos.

[Cointxz]

I wonder if there is any market for this, or if this is some allegory where like "wHy ChAnGe SoMeThInG iF bRoKen, cAsInO aLrEaDy PrOfiTaBle". What do you guys think? Are the selfish casino operators holding back true innovation or what!?

There’s already chat feature to interact with dealer and other player on same table if you will play live games.

I think live games are the one which this social casino is applicable. I remember some casino tried already to implement metaverse in the past which players can interact with other players and dealer virtually and they can talk via mic and share their screen like they are doing FaceTime.

It doesn’t get much support tho.

[stompix]

I wonder if there is any market for this

You do realize that you're describing casinos like they have been for 100 years, right?
You go alone or with friends, and you have fun, nothing is stopping you from doing this right now!
Have you actually been in a casino?

I don't mean to be crass, but I think all of you are wrong. Which is strange because I would think you guys would take into consideration the massive market there is behind STREAMING. There are plenty of people (like literally millions of people) who don't want to visit a "land casino" and instead watch a guy to gamble with and feel part of his community.

You're one of those guys in their 40s playing with a stick, thinking you're dueling Darth Vader?

[promise444c5]

How exactly do we make it more social though. Does anyone have an idea that could work.

VR I guess.. if they want to achieve something like land based  casinos then it has to be something like the Virtual Reality Casinos.. that way you can see someone interact with other as much as you want but how long can people use that.. I get a lot of headaches using for 2hrs+

Another way is creating an open world game with different Casino services in it. I’m talking about something like GTA but inside the game, Casinos will have their different maps where users can go to, check in  just like the land based casinos, play any casino games of choice with as many as possible other user in third person or first person view..