Shuffle.com - Withdrawals Blocked and Cancelled After Legitimate Win

[Rating Place]

So, I am asking once more, if you will give a written permission for me to share with public your betting history, so overseers can see and give their opinion, that I can use as other insights, or will you choose to keep them hidden and private, for-my-eyes-only, for a reason you're entitled to [but evidently raise questions from overseers], and I will draw the verdict that bind the three of us.

I understand the confidentiality terms regarding Shuffle's evidence, and I respect that. At the same time, I want to make sure this process remains fair and balanced.

I am willing to give permission for you to share my betting history publicly, but only under the condition that it is presented in proper context and clearly tied to whatever point is being evaluated, not as a standalone element that can be interpreted without the full picture.

Once again, I want to emphasize that the initial accusation was about the integrity of the event, not my account or betting behavior.

Rest assured, my intention is just to post the images, without any markings or leading narrative, simply providing to public and listen to the overseers opinion as they read and interpret the logs in their own ways and how they mind work.

I have the permission?

Yes, you have

To reinforce before decision comes out. No legal authorities or integrity bodies are looking at this March 7 case. They are looking at the February case. That’s the proof that’s needed and no one is looking at it.

[holydarkness]

Rest assured, my intention is just to post the images, without any markings or leading narrative, simply providing to public and listen to the overseers opinion as they read and interpret the logs in their own ways and how they mind work.

I have the permission?

Yes, you have

Great.


Overseers, below are the screenshot samples of betting history that player pvzera1 provided to me in video form, that I paused and screenshotted in as "continuous" as I can.

I have give them a look and draw several points from them, but I will leave no markings on them, in order to maintain objectivity and not leading. Please give me your opinion regarding what you think, anything at all, when you read them.

I'd like to trouble Mahdirakib, Pmalek, Yahoo62278, Rikafip, Trofo by inviting you here as I am aware some of you are a frequent sportsbettor and/or well versed in betting. Feel free to give no comment, the mention is just a humble ask.







Edit: rearranging the image so it's more chronological and easier to be read

[Rating Place]

Let’s not move the goal posts. Holy on a previous match fix

   
As I previously said, the decision of the game being rigged or not should come from the officials, the one who held that match. It doesn't matter, it shouldn't matter, whether we believe a game is rigged or not, and it shouldn't be used by fairlay to make a ruling……………

Bottomline: no one should have the capacity to made the ruling other than the PFL themselves. And likewise, no one should be able to decide the outcome of those Finnish games without a thorough and direct investigation to the parties being involved. So, going back to where I start this long paragraph, it doesn't really matter if two, three, or ten people agree, the decision should only come from the officials, after a thorough investigation.
  

There’s no investigation that’s being done on the current March 7 game. There is no proof.

[baba2020]

I also have a Shuffle account and usually my bets are 50 100 200 500 dol per bet, but I also did some 3k 5k 7k bets too rarely(in "sketch" games(like if it NBB, tv game for millions of ppl, was a sketch game lol), minor, major, everything) and I lost a lot of it, I want them to be voided urgently ok? If Shuffle is using this "fluctuation"/ bet history to void bets, I really want my losses to be void, this is fair isnt it? This is so good for Shuffle, when it´s a loss, it´s a normal game and we gonna put ur money in our pocket, if it´s win, let´s investigate, o, we didn´t find anything with providers/anywhere, let´s create a narrative of fluctuation to void ok. Easy money.

If I open a new topic regarding my bets, are you going to ask Shuffle to  void it?  This is pathetic...The house always wins guys, if you don´t have A LOT history bets, you are wrong, but if you lose the bets, we gonna use it, Noah´s, Tim or anyone else from staff gonna pocket and have fun with your money, and they pretend to be number 1 lol...never. gl Shuffle.

[pvzera1]

I also have a Shuffle account and usually my bets are 50 100 200 500 dol per bet, but I also did some 3k 5k 7k bets too rarely(in "sketch" games(like if it NBB, tv game for millions of ppl, was a sketch game lol), minor, major, everything) and I lost a lot of it, I want them to be voided urgently ok? If Shuffle is using this "fluctuation"/ bet history to void bets, I really want my losses to be void, this is fair isnt it? This is so good for Shuffle, when it´s a loss, it´s a normal game and we gonna put ur money in our pocket, if it´s win, let´s investigate, o, we didn´t find anything with providers/anywhere, let´s create a narrative of fluctuation to void ok. Easy money.

If I open a new topic regarding my bets, are you going to ask Shuffle to  void it?  This is pathetic...The house always wins guys, if you don´t have A LOT history bets, you are wrong, but if you lose the bets, we gonna use it, Noah´s, Tim or anyone else from staff gonna pocket and have fun with your money, and they pretend to be number 1 lol...never. gl Shuffle.

At this point, the safest approach might be to check with Shuffle before placing any higher bet and ask if they actually plan to honor it in case it wins, or if later it will suddenly become an "integrity issue" with the event and get voided. Because apparently, that distinction only gets clarified after the result.

[holydarkness]

At this point, the safest approach might be to check with Shuffle before placing any higher bet and ask if they actually plan to honor it in case it wins, or if later it will suddenly become an "integrity issue" with the event and get voided. Because apparently, that distinction only gets clarified after the result.

With the betting sample available for public and overseers, I'll withdraw myself for about 48 hours from this case, taking a spectator seat and giving room for those who want to ask you or commented about the history, to give voice to their mind while keeping those mind as far away from my own opinion and curiosity.

Following the fourty eight hours, and depending on the development on this thread [I obviously  won't re-ask if it's already asked by someone else and answered by you during the timeframe], I have a couple of questions to you in regards to the betting history, that popped into my mind when I see them.

[Rating Place]

The betting history is irrelevant. I’ll post betting history with all evidence of the Fairlay case and you said there was no proof of match fixing. It had to come down to a governing body or league.

FIRST SUSPICIOUS MATCH: FC KIFFEN VS. FC FUTURA (MAY 12)

Details of the match:
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/12/finland/kakkonen/fc-kiffen-08/futura/4323169/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4rC7403Dc4

Six orders were placed on May 12, with a total net profit of 1,181.81 mBTC. Orders were -4.25 and -4.50 handicap orders on FC Kiffen against FC Futura in Finland – Kakkonen Group A.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 23th and 28th minute of the match (the current result being 1-0 for FC Kiffen), and they were all winning orders as FC Kiffen won the match 6-1.

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

16th minute – FC FUTURA player Bazhan getting a direct red card for unnecessary foul (1:35 in highlights)
25th minute – FC FUTURA player Moyseev getting a yellow card for unnecessary foul (2:05 in highlights)
29th minute – FC FUTURA player Sinitsyn scoring a rather clumsy own goal (2:25 in highlights)
Also, FC FUTURA goalkeeper Kazakov was not putting much effort in doing his job.

It is interesting to note that all four players noted in the suspicious activity were Ukrainian players.

SECOND SUSPICIOUS MATCH: ILVES KISSAT VS. TAMPERE UNITED (MAY 19)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk

Six orders were placed on May 19, with a total net profit of 1,132.33 mBTC. Orders were -3.75 and -4.0 handicap orders on Tampere United away at Ilves Kissat in Finland – Kakkonen Group B.

All six orders were live orders placed between the 14th and 19th minute of the match (current result being 1-0 for Tampere United), and they were all winning orders as Tampere United won the match 6-1.

With four Ukrainian players being included in the first suspicious match, it should be more than a coincidence that Ilves Kissat is the only team in the league that has Ukrainian players, and not only one but six.

One of those players was Kasperovych, which has done an awful job in the given match.

THIRD SUSPICIOUS MATCH: TPV TAMPERE VS. ILVES KISSAT (APRIL 24)

Details of the match:
https://nr.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/19/finland/kakkonen/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/tampere-united/4323331/

Highlights of the match:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_qIT9T-FXk&t

Two orders were placed on April 24, with a total net profit of 372.01 mBTC. Both were Over 3.5 orders. Both were placed between the 20th and 21st minute of the match (current result being 0-0), and both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of four goals (TPV Tampere won 3-1).

Details of the match and highlights of the match confirm several suspicious situations:

48th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Indutnyi conceding a penalty (2:30 in highlights)
57th minute – ILVES KISSAT player Patjas scoring an own goal (3:30 in highlights)
78th minute – ILVES KISSAT goalkeeper Kasperovych easily conceding a goal (4:10 in highlights)


OTHER SUSPICOUS MATCHES:

Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres (Brazil – Pernambucano U20, May 18):
https://ke.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/18/brazil/pernambucano-u20/centro-limoeirense-u20/atletico-torres-u20/4347487/

Nine orders were placed on May 18, with total net profit of 527.63 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Clube Atletico Torres. One was -4.25 order, two were -5.0 orders, three were -5.25 orders, three were -5.5 orders. All nine were winning orders as Clube Atletico Torres won 7-0.

Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro (Brazil – Paulista U20, May 17):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/05/17/brazil/paulista-u20/botafogo-sp-u19/inter-de-bebedouro-u20/4343121/

Eight orders were placed on May 17, with a total net profit of 758.98 mBTC. They were handicap orders on Botafogo FC SP. Three were -2.5 orders, one was -2.75 order, four were -3.0 orders. All eight were winning orders as Botafogo FC SP won 10-1.

Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat (Finland – Kakkonen Group B, April 11):
https://int.soccerway.com/matches/2024/04/11/finland/kakkonen/ilves-ii/tampereen-viipurin-ilves-kissat/4323304/

Two orders were placed on April 16, with a total net profit of 217.75 mBTC. They were Over 3.75 and Over 4.0 orders. Both were winning orders as the match finished with a total of five goals (Tampereen Ilves II won 5-0).

Finland’s Kakkonen league already has a history of match-fixing. Recently there were cases of match-fixing in Brazil as well. Several of them in the Paulista Football Federation, that the user was involved in as well.


BETTING HISTORY of the user:


Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.259   Ilves Kissat +4.0   98.99   05/19/2024 12:18   124.68   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.519   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:17   227.96   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.169   Ilves Kissat +3.75   149.99   05/19/2024 12:16   175.43   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.209   Ilves Kissat +3.75   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   181.37   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.639   Ilves Kissat +4.0   150.00   05/19/2024 12:15   245.90   05/19/2024 12:44
Ilves Kissat vs. Tampere United   2.769   Ilves Kissat +4.0   100.00   05/19/2024 12:13   176.99   05/19/2024 12:44
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.069   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.65   05/18/2024 13:25   53.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.653   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:25   32.67   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.892   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.00   05/18/2024 13:24   43.75   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.089   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   49.67   05/18/2024 13:24   54.11   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.909   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   49.99   05/18/2024 13:24   45.45   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.179   Centro Limoeirense +5.5   74.70   05/18/2024 13:23   88.10   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.019   Centro Limoeirense +5.25   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   50.96   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   1.787   Centro Limoeirense +5.0   50.00   05/18/2024 13:21   39.37   05/18/2024 13:53
Centro Limoeirense vs. Clube Atletico Torres   2.618   Centro Limoeirense +4.25   74.22   05/18/2024 13:17   120.11   05/18/2024 13:50
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.990   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   70.00   05/17/2024 18:42   69.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.790   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   125.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.730   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:41   121.10   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   1.917   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   80.00   05/17/2024 18:40   73.36   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.490   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   104.30   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.180   Botafogo FC SP -2.75   70.00   05/17/2024 18:40   82.60   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.070   Botafogo FC SP -2.5   74.00   05/17/2024 18:39   79.18   05/17/2024 19:11
Botafogo FC SP vs. Inter de Bebedouro   2.760   Botafogo FC SP -3.0   59.00   05/17/2024 18:38   103.84   05/17/2024 19:11
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.840   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:27   184.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.580   FC Kiffen -4.25   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   158.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.860   FC Kiffen -4.5   100.00   05/12/2024 13:26   186.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.700   FC Kiffen -4.25   130.00   05/12/2024 13:25   221.00   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kiffen vs. FC Futura   2.790   FC Kiffen -4.25   139.00   05/12/2024 13:22   248.81   05/12/2024 13:55
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   1.943   FC Kontu +0.75   31.00   05/09/2024 11:14   31.00   05/09/2024 12:28
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   2.640   FC Kontu +0.25   29.00   05/09/2024 11:13   29.00   05/09/2024 11:43
FC Kontu vs. FC Finnkurd   3.050   FC Kontu +0.0   29.11   05/09/2024 11:11   29.11   05/09/2024 11:43
Al Faisaly Harmah vs. Al Ahli Jeddah   1.840   Over 2.0   1.00   05/07/2024 13:10   0.84   05/07/2024 15:11
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.943   Over 3.5   197.00   04/24/2024 16:20   185.77   04/24/2024 17:21
TPV Tampere vs. Ilves Kissat   1.970   Over 3.5   192.00   04/24/2024 16:19   186.24   04/24/2024 17:21
Ilves Kissat vs. SexyPoxyt   1.854   Ilves Kissat -1.5   0.99   04/20/2024 10:49   0.99   04/20/2024 12:05
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.952   EBK -2.0   5.00   04/16/2024 17:10   0.00   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.662   EBK -1.75   10.00   04/16/2024 17:09   3.31   04/16/2024 18:21
EBK vs. FC Futura   1.632   EBK -1.75   20.00   04/16/2024 17:09   6.32   04/16/2024 18:21
FC Futura vs. MyPa   1.909   FC Futura +0.0   20.00   04/13/2024 14:31   0.00   04/13/2024 15:48
FC Futura vs. MyPa   2.470   Over 2.5   1.00   04/13/2024 13:43   1.00   04/13/2024 15:25
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.819   Over 4.0   44.00   04/11/2024 16:30   36.03   04/11/2024 17:21
Tampereen Ilves II vs. Ilves Kissat   1.826   Over 3.75   220.00   04/11/2024 16:21   181.72   04/11/2024 17:21
Cdp Junior FC vs. Millonarios FC   2.390   Over 2.25   99.00   03/23/2024 21:12   137.61   03/23/2024 22:21

[baba2020]

Novo Basquete Brasil (NBB)

Much bigger market (Brazil = 200M+ people)
Strong clubs like Flamengo, Franca
Games can draw  10, 20, 50 thousands (arena + TV audience)
Basketball has way more cultural presence

Not a single integrity / match fix / report by NBB, Sport Radar, Betby, or anyone else

It´s not a sketchy event

The question I make is:

I also have fluctuations in my bet history, my usual pattern is like his pattern, 20 50 100 200 500 dol, but some day I decide to bet 7k in a normal game and win, bet will be void?? Well i have some of this examples in my history, but I lost, I would like to see if Shuffle could void these bets for me, can you?

I'm waiting for this response

Unbeliveable

[Rating Place]

Novo Basquete Brasil (NBB)

Much bigger market (Brazil = 200M+ people)
Strong clubs like Flamengo, Franca
Finals and big games can draw  10, 20, 50 thousands (arena + TV audience)
Basketball has way more cultural presence

Not a single integrity / match fix / report by NBB, Sport Radar, Betby, or anyone else

It´s not a sketchy event

The question I make is:

I also have fluctuations in my bet history, my usual pattern is like his pattern, 20 50 100 200 500 dol, but some day I decide to bet 7k in a normal game and win, bet will be void?? Well i have some of this examples in my history, but I lost, I would like to see if Shuffle could void these bets for me, can you?

I'm waiting for this response

Unbeliveable

Why is he looking at the bets? Which players fixed the game? Normally one player would have 10 turnovers or something crazy in a fix. In football it's someone getting a red card, kicking it in his own goal or goal keeper letting up easy goals. There's nothing in the basketball game which is why it's not being investigated. The OP wasn't on the court.

Pato Basquete Box Score

Player	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO
Danilo Penteado	29	14	6	0	0	0	1
Nathan Gomes	22	12	7	1	1	0	1
Tradavis Thompson	23	11	1	4	0	0	2
Michel Souza	22	11	3	1	2	0	2
Grigor Vieira	15	9	6	1	0	0	1
Naka	16	8	2	2	1	0	0
Edu Marília	25	6	14	3	1	2	1
Mateus Oliveira	13	2	3	1	0	0	0
João Fidelis	15	2	4	2	0	0	1
Willker Zonzini	1	2	0	0	0	0	0
Raekwon Horton	14	2	0	1	1	0	0

Corinthians Box Score

Player	MIN	PTS	REB	AST	STL	BLK	TO
Davaunta Thomas	34	21	7	6	1	1	1
Elyjah Clark	33	20	5	4	2	1	2
Lucas Cauê	26	15	8	1	1	3	1
Victão Silva	31	8	3	1	0	2	0
Tiago Faria	13	7	0	3	0	0	1
Cauê Borges	16	7	0	4	1	0	0
Gabriel Novaes	11	7	0	0	0	0	0
Kauan Raymundo	10	4	1	1	0	0	1
Rafael Munford	22	0	8	1	0	0	0

[pvzera1]

With the betting sample available for public and overseers, I'll withdraw myself for about 48 hours from this case, taking a spectator seat and giving room for those who want to ask you or commented about the history, to give voice to their mind while keeping those mind as far away from my own opinion and curiosity.

Following the fourty eight hours, and depending on the development on this thread [I obviously  won't re-ask if it's already asked by someone else and answered by you during the timeframe], I have a couple of questions to you in regards to the betting history, that popped into my mind when I see them.

Before anything else, you still haven't explained what my betting history or my account has to do with the alleged integrity issue of the event. If this was truly about match integrity, then the focus should be on the event itself, not on my wagers.

Let me ask you directly: if those same bets had lost, would Shuffle be refunding my losses based on "fluctuation" or my betting pattern? Or would they have been settled normally? Because from where I stand, this looks like a one-sided rule: losses are always final, but wins are subject to reinterpretation.

Also, if I receive funds and choose to place higher wagers trying to hit a bigger win, what exactly is wrong with that? My account was fully allowed to place those bets, with no restrictions.

So again: how does any of this relate to the integrity of the event?

I'll be waiting for a clear answer.

[nutildah]

It´s not a sketchy event

Match fixing happens all the time in Brazil sports, particularly basketball:

https://insidersport.com/2026/04/07/brazils-match-fixing-regulations/
https://bnldata.com.br/en/pf-investiga-manipulacao-em-partidas-de-basquete-no-brasil-apos-identificar-padroes-suspeitos-em-apostas/

However, you are correct in that there is no official confirmation that this particular match was fixed.

The question I make is:

I also have fluctuations in my bet history, my usual pattern is like his pattern, 20 50 100 200 500 dol, but some day I decide to bet 7k in a normal game and win, bet will be void?? Well i have some of this examples in my history, but I lost, I would like to see if Shuffle could void these bets for me, can you?

The actual situation is a lot different than your scenario. Small bets then all the sudden $30k in one day. Let's be real: that looks weird AF. However, without official confirmation of a match fix, Shuffle should pay the wins, or at least one of them, and do better at limiting Brazilian basketball in the future.

[Rating Place]

It´s not a sketchy event

Match fixing happens all the time in Brazil sports, particularly basketball:

https://insidersport.com/2026/04/07/brazils-match-fixing-regulations/
https://bnldata.com.br/en/pf-investiga-manipulacao-em-partidas-de-basquete-no-brasil-apos-identificar-padroes-suspeitos-em-apostas/

However, you are correct in that there is no official confirmation that this particular match was fixed.

The question I make is:

I also have fluctuations in my bet history, my usual pattern is like his pattern, 20 50 100 200 500 dol, but some day I decide to bet 7k in a normal game and win, bet will be void?? Well i have some of this examples in my history, but I lost, I would like to see if Shuffle could void these bets for me, can you?

The actual situation is a lot different than your scenario. Small bets then all the sudden $30k in one day. Let's be real: that looks weird AF. However, without official confirmation of a match fix, Shuffle should pay the wins, or at least one of them, and do better at limiting Brazilian basketball in the future.

sure, I agree with you on the bets and thought it was fixed and left it alone. It dragged on so I looked further. Show me the players involved in the fix?  This game obviously was not fixed but I understand why it was marked.

This is a facts based case. Just look at line movement, box score, play by play type of things.

Most of the fixing going on now is with props. That’s easy to fix. Players just fake injuries during the game so assist total goes under as an example.

[degen01]

With the betting sample available for public and overseers, I'll withdraw myself for about 48 hours from this case, taking a spectator seat and giving room for those who want to ask you or commented about the history, to give voice to their mind while keeping those mind as far away from my own opinion and curiosity.

Following the fourty eight hours, and depending on the development on this thread [I obviously  won't re-ask if it's already asked by someone else and answered by you during the timeframe], I have a couple of questions to you in regards to the betting history, that popped into my mind when I see them.

Before anything else, you still haven't explained what my betting history or my account has to do with the alleged integrity issue of the event. If this was truly about match integrity, then the focus should be on the event itself, not on my wagers.

Let me ask you directly: if those same bets had lost, would Shuffle be refunding my losses based on "fluctuation" or my betting pattern? Or would they have been settled normally? Because from where I stand, this looks like a one-sided rule: losses are always final, but wins are subject to reinterpretation.

Also, if I receive funds and choose to place higher wagers trying to hit a bigger win, what exactly is wrong with that? My account was fully allowed to place those bets, with no restrictions.

So again: how does any of this relate to the integrity of the event?

I'll be waiting for a clear answer.

Not all match fixing is widespread; you're acting as if it's not possible for a very small group of people to receive inside info

If those bets had lost, no you wouldn't be refunded. I'm not sure why people bring up morality when it comes to offshore gambling sites. There are no morals, it's a cutthroat dog eat dog world in this industry. It's no different than every offshore platform allowing scammers to deposit an infinite amount and then throw down the accusations once it's time to payout. The player assumes all the risk and then hopes that the operator acts in good faith, this is how offshore gambling has worked for 30 years

You continue to act as if your betting history means nothing, but it does. You weren't some everyday customer holding a big balance placing dozens of sports bets per week. You hadn't placed a single wager there in over a month. Then you suddenly deposit 30k to put it all on a sketchy brazilian basketball game from a country that has had countless match fixing and shady allegations in the past with all types of sports. Then after the wagers win, you immediately try to cashout the balance. I'm pro player, always have been, but to pretend like there's nothing shady here and strictly pointing to the event itself and not your bet history is you trying to control the narrative. Just because there haven't been widespread accusations or suspicions of match fixing doesn't mean it didn't happen

There may not be widespread match integrity issues right now, but there's certainly questions surrounding your integrity. Once you start putting the pieces of the puzzle together, it looks incredibly shady on your end

Again, I feel for you if you're innocent here, but it's hard to look at this all and think this is legit

Shuffle also needs to be accountable here though. Allowing massive limits on shady leagues opens them up to problems such as this one. There's a reason why some of the biggest books in the world only offer peanut limits on NBB

[pvzera1]

Not all match fixing is widespread; you're acting as if it's not possible for a very small group of people to receive inside info

If those bets had lost, no you wouldn't be refunded. I'm not sure why people bring up morality when it comes to offshore gambling sites. There are no morals, it's a cutthroat dog eat dog world in this industry. It's no different than every offshore platform allowing scammers to deposit an infinite amount and then throw down the accusations once it's time to payout. The player assumes all the risk and then hopes that the operator acts in good faith, this is how offshore gambling has worked for 30 years

You continue to act as if your betting history means nothing, but it does. You weren't some everyday customer holding a big balance placing dozens of sports bets per week. You hadn't placed a single wager there in over a month. Then you suddenly deposit 30k to put it all on a sketchy brazilian basketball game from a country that has had countless match fixing and shady allegations in the past with all types of sports. Then after the wagers win, you immediately try to cashout the balance. I'm pro player, always have been, but to pretend like there's nothing shady here and strictly pointing to the event itself and not your bet history is you trying to control the narrative. Just because there haven't been widespread accusations or suspicions of match fixing doesn't mean it didn't happen

There may not be widespread match integrity issues right now, but there's certainly questions surrounding your integrity. Once you start putting the pieces of the puzzle together, it looks incredibly shady on your end

Again, I feel for you if you're innocent here, but it's hard to look at this all and think this is legit

Shuffle also needs to be accountable here though. Allowing massive limits on shady leagues opens them up to problems such as this one. There's a reason why some of the biggest books in the world only offer peanut limits on NBB

My pattern has always been the same: I make a profit and withdraw immediately. I don't keep funds on the platform. Then I deposit again and continue. That's consistent behavior, not something unusual.

Also, the idea of a "small group with inside information" doesn't make sense here. Where is this group? Why was I the only one affected? If that were the case, multiple bets across different platforms would have been impacted, not just mine.

There is still no actual proof. There is nothing that justifies not paying me. They accepted the bets, they settled them as wins, and now they are trying to reverse that without evidence.

If I was able to place high wagers, it's because my account was allowed to do so. That's something you earn over time on the platform, and my account has always operated within those limits.

At the end of the day, this is still based on speculation, not evidence, and they need to pay what they owe. It's that simple.

[Rating Place]

With the betting sample available for public and overseers, I'll withdraw myself for about 48 hours from this case, taking a spectator seat and giving room for those who want to ask you or commented about the history, to give voice to their mind while keeping those mind as far away from my own opinion and curiosity.

Following the fourty eight hours, and depending on the development on this thread [I obviously  won't re-ask if it's already asked by someone else and answered by you during the timeframe], I have a couple of questions to you in regards to the betting history, that popped into my mind when I see them.

Before anything else, you still haven't explained what my betting history or my account has to do with the alleged integrity issue of the event. If this was truly about match integrity, then the focus should be on the event itself, not on my wagers.

Let me ask you directly: if those same bets had lost, would Shuffle be refunding my losses based on "fluctuation" or my betting pattern? Or would they have been settled normally? Because from where I stand, this looks like a one-sided rule: losses are always final, but wins are subject to reinterpretation.

Also, if I receive funds and choose to place higher wagers trying to hit a bigger win, what exactly is wrong with that? My account was fully allowed to place those bets, with no restrictions.

So again: how does any of this relate to the integrity of the event?

I'll be waiting for a clear answer.

Not all match fixing is widespread; you're acting as if it's not possible for a very small group of people to receive inside info

If those bets had lost, no you wouldn't be refunded. I'm not sure why people bring up morality when it comes to offshore gambling sites. There are no morals, it's a cutthroat dog eat dog world in this industry. It's no different than every offshore platform allowing scammers to deposit an infinite amount and then throw down the accusations once it's time to payout. The player assumes all the risk and then hopes that the operator acts in good faith, this is how offshore gambling has worked for 30 years

You continue to act as if your betting history means nothing, but it does. You weren't some everyday customer holding a big balance placing dozens of sports bets per week. You hadn't placed a single wager there in over a month. Then you suddenly deposit 30k to put it all on a sketchy brazilian basketball game from a country that has had countless match fixing and shady allegations in the past with all types of sports. Then after the wagers win, you immediately try to cashout the balance. I'm pro player, always have been, but to pretend like there's nothing shady here and strictly pointing to the event itself and not your bet history is you trying to control the narrative. Just because there haven't been widespread accusations or suspicions of match fixing doesn't mean it didn't happen

There may not be widespread match integrity issues right now, but there's certainly questions surrounding your integrity. Once you start putting the pieces of the puzzle together, it looks incredibly shady on your end

Again, I feel for you if you're innocent here, but it's hard to look at this all and think this is legit

Shuffle also needs to be accountable here though. Allowing massive limits on shady leagues opens them up to problems such as this one. There's a reason why some of the biggest books in the world only offer peanut limits on NBB

Shuffle figured it was easy to grab $30k since no one would question the fix. As you said, it’s a cut throat business.

Just looking at the bet slips, we would all say fix but there’s nothing in the game play or stats that says fix. No other books cancelled. There are no investigations. Pay the player.

[un_rank]

I have not followed this thread for a while and a lot has happened in the interval. I will just like to know if shuffle really did void all bets related to the game as was claimed earlier, including those that were lost and refunded stakes? If they took the profits from loses and voided winnings, that raises suspicion on their part.

- Jay -

[Rating Place]

I have not followed this thread for a while and a lot has happened in the interval. I will just like to know if shuffle really did void all bets related to the game as was claimed earlier, including those that were lost and refunded stakes? If they took the profits from loses and voided winnings, that raises suspicion on their part.

- Jay -

I would think they cancelled all since it was probably one sided action by volume with the $30k bet. I can’t see them being that naive to only cancel one bet and not think it wouldn’t come back to bite them.

Edit- looked at public betting percentages. Cor had a higher percentage of tickets. Cancelling all would help Shuffle.

[pvzera1]

I have not followed this thread for a while and a lot has happened in the interval. I will just like to know if shuffle really did void all bets related to the game as was claimed earlier, including those that were lost and refunded stakes? If they took the profits from loses and voided winnings, that raises suspicion on their part.

- Jay -

There was no integrity issue reported anywhere else, only on my bet at Shuffle.

Shuffle claimed that all bets related to the event were voided, but so far nothing has been shown to support that. No proof, no report, no evidence. Only statements.

[Rating Place]

For comparison, holy said this match wasn’t fixed.

There were 5 fixed matches that the player bet. I'll go over the first one. There are 4 Ukranian players on Futura. All 4 were involved in questionable activity. Others were clean.

Kiffen vs. Futura
1. Sinitsyn kicked the ball in his own goal.
2. Bazhan received a red card. No other red cards for the team.
3. Moiseiev received a yellow card. No other yellow cards for the team.
4. Kasakovv goalkeeper gave up 6 goals.

[rohang]

So yea um, been betting sports for almost 10 years now and seen alot of whales/degens etc

Betting history is obviously problematic, it screams that OP had some inside info and put down everything he could on the game.
It also looks like from game stats it wasnt a fix, maybe whatever info was there was false or things changed last minute and OP got lucky on the win.

It was one thing if player had been losing consistently and decided to do one big all in, or if he had been on a lucky streak and decided to hammer a big bet, but this seems to be a 30k deposit all in.

Regardless of how fishy it may be, there is 0 proof or even inclination that something shady happened in the game.
Shuffle need to pay as they accepted these bets. Or at the very least refund OP money, they cant just pocket 30k like this.

All this is obviously not considering what 'evidence' they have provided to holy.