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May 09, 2026, 03:40:49 PM |
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It's about integrity here, as Tim mentioned in his very first reply himself. So, in a way, yes, it's player's game integrity. As about match-fixing itself, as I previously mentioned, it was not the matter here, was never be the main issue, until one or two member steadily brought the discussion to that point.
I don't think the match itself is in question, given a lot of my contacts from other casinos who use betby didn't mention that their provider flagged it. However, player's betting behavior indeed point to a breach of integrity.
With no intention to be rude, my posts since I give time for the overseers to help me with second opinion by me taking spectator seat with OP's betting history being displayed, as well as other comments, hints toward all of that: player's integrity.
Was the match fair? Well, according to Betby, it was. Was OP's bet fair? Well, from the evidence Shuffle gave me, it strongly suggest to a no.
But this is a debate between two parties. The first party will accuse at best with their evidence to convince the second party is the guilty one. Likewise, the second party will give their best too to convince the first party is the one cheating. Thus, my inquiries, be the puzzling ones or the blatant ones like the last.
That is as much as I can give right now, without having OP's answer to my last four questions.
At this point, every answer I provide simply leads to more and more attempts to justify what should never have happened in the first place, followed by endless new questions that will clearly never end. That said, I will not be answering further questions. What started as an alleged “integrity issue” with the event has now turned into discussions about my betting style, deposits, wager timing, sessions, wallet addresses, and countless unrelated topics. The goalposts keep moving every time one argument fails. I fully cooperated throughout this process. I provided private videos, betting history, explanations, account information, and answered every single thing requested from me. Meanwhile, no concrete proof of match-fixing or event manipulation was ever publicly presented. And honestly, I no longer believe this mediation remained neutral. That is my personal view after following how this developed. Even with the majority of forum users openly questioning Shuffle's position and supporting my side, the discussion kept drifting further and further away from the original allegation. It has now been more than 2 months since the bets were placed, with me trying to resolve this amicably from the beginning, and more than 1 month of public discussion on this forum. After all this time, the only thing that keeps changing is the justification. No real proof has been shown to me. No public integrity report exists. No other sportsbooks acted the same way. And yet Shuffle still refuses to pay. That is the issue. Everything else is just noise created to justify an unjustifiable decision. I will also post below two screenshots showing that Shuffle themselves previously stated that the issue was with the event, and that the amount wagered did not change the situation. They also stated that this alleged integrity concern had been shared with other providers. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/05/09/UJJCL9.jpeghttps://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/05/09/UJJQqN.jpeg
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May 09, 2026, 04:07:17 PM |
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Integrity is for integrity of the game. It means that the game is played fair. It’s not integrity of the OP. He could be a murderer and should be paid. Holy is making up rules. Shuffle got in holy’s ear and told him that that the rule is the OP’s integrity and holy believes it.
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holydarkness
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May 09, 2026, 04:08:39 PM |
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It's about integrity here, as Tim mentioned in his very first reply himself. So, in a way, yes, it's player's game integrity. As about match-fixing itself, as I previously mentioned, it was not the matter here, was never be the main issue, until one or two member steadily brought the discussion to that point.
I don't think the match itself is in question, given a lot of my contacts from other casinos who use betby didn't mention that their provider flagged it. However, player's betting behavior indeed point to a breach of integrity.
With no intention to be rude, my posts since I give time for the overseers to help me with second opinion by me taking spectator seat with OP's betting history being displayed, as well as other comments, hints toward all of that: player's integrity.
Was the match fair? Well, according to Betby, it was. Was OP's bet fair? Well, from the evidence Shuffle gave me, it strongly suggest to a no.
But this is a debate between two parties. The first party will accuse at best with their evidence to convince the second party is the guilty one. Likewise, the second party will give their best too to convince the first party is the one cheating. Thus, my inquiries, be the puzzling ones or the blatant ones like the last.
That is as much as I can give right now, without having OP's answer to my last four questions.
At this point, every answer I provide simply leads to more and more attempts to justify what should never have happened in the first place, followed by endless new questions that will clearly never end. That said, I will not be answering further questions. What started as an alleged “integrity issue” with the event has now turned into discussions about my betting style, deposits, wager timing, sessions, wallet addresses, and countless unrelated topics. The goalposts keep moving every time one argument fails. I fully cooperated throughout this process. I provided private videos, betting history, explanations, account information, and answered every single thing requested from me. Meanwhile, no concrete proof of match-fixing or event manipulation was ever publicly presented. And honestly, I no longer believe this mediation remained neutral. That is my personal view after following how this developed. Even with the majority of forum users openly questioning Shuffle's position and supporting my side, the discussion kept drifting further and further away from the original allegation. It has now been more than 2 months since the bets were placed, with me trying to resolve this amicably from the beginning, and more than 1 month of public discussion on this forum. After all this time, the only thing that keeps changing is the justification. No real proof has been shown to me. No public integrity report exists. No other sportsbooks acted the same way. And yet Shuffle still refuses to pay. That is the issue. Everything else is just noise created to justify an unjustifiable decision. I will also post below two screenshots showing that Shuffle themselves previously stated that the issue was with the event, and that the amount wagered did not change the situation. They also stated that this alleged integrity concern had been shared with other providers. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/05/09/UJJCL9.jpeghttps://www.talkimg.com/images/2026/05/09/UJJQqN.jpegWhich majority is this? Because if I recall correctly, following me giving the spotlight to the overseers to give their input, two overseers [one who proudly announce to the entire forum that he's always pro-players and taking players side, and the other one state that he's your friend] steered the narrative into match-fixing, creating a bias I don't want to create in the first place by leaving your betting history blank and without any mark that I notice. Few overseers voiced similar curioisty as mine, some of the other are asking about match-fixing, thanks to the self-proclaimed expert in sportsbetting mediation who steer it that way, and I count about two supporting your side. The rest are curious about the outcome and waiting for my further action. Of which, I just did... of also which, ironically, the one you refused to answer because you see it as non-neutral, is actually one of the very few times I do direct question instead of double-blind [overseers, now you understand why I do double blind and remains vague], to --again, ironically-- keep me from being bias by trying to make sense of the evidence they provided to me against you. Hence the question. Without your answer, I can't understand your side, and thus can only have their side as my reference. Just... to keep your mind clear from other specific member who want to derail the matter, giving you a benefit of doubt here by thinking you made your words above under the other member's influence and compulsion, and not because the answer to the questions itself will be self-incriminating, and thus you kinda plead the fifth, consider this for a second: Those questions are not a witch-hunt. I am not asking you and jumping from one aspect to other. My question remains focused to one thing, that I am sure you can easily see what, and why. Those questions and the ones before are specifically asked to get your version instead of taking Shuffle's evidence at face value. So, just like before, just like your reluctance of showing your betting history to public, that later birthed questions of the amount and/or other aspects, feel free to refuse to answer. I am not forcing you, I am just letting you heard by me and other overseers instead of having me simply dictate by evidence that's only seen by me, provided by your counter-party. Without your side, the overseers will unfortunately has to rely on what I see from Shuffle. And that, IMO, is what I will say as a bias and non-neutral. Your call. But please don't call me siding with casino and biased and non-neutral when you walk away from the chance. You're free to speak, the freedom of speech is what the forum encourage, but the forum also remind people that freedom of speech doesn't follow with free of consequences.
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Holy i appreciate the work you do and time you spend on this forum for scam reports such as these
However with all due respect i would like to ask why you have not mentioned the games integrity in this post? You have not even mentioned what conclusion u drew from shuffle evidence. Was it about the game integrity? Was it about player betting behaviour?
I think OP behaviour, however suspicious it maybe, should be considered secondary w.r.t whether the game integrity is in question or not.
So, as per shuffle evidence, what conclusion did u drew? Was the match fair or not?
So, in a way, yes, it's player's game integrity. Was OP's bet fair?
What does player integrity have to do with the game result and how it played out ? How can OP's bet be 'unfair'? Was it made when the match was already live with wrong odds ? no Was it made on erroneous markets ? no Did it bypass limits allowed ? No indication yetDid OP have info/connections to certain players ? No, innocent until guilty. This way any book can deny all big winnings by making claims about player 'integrity' Those are the things i can think of by which anyone's sport bet can be called 'unfair'
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holydarkness
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May 09, 2026, 04:21:19 PM |
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What does player integrity have to do with the game result and how it played out ?
How can OP's bet be 'unfair'?
Was it made when the match was already live with wrong odds ? no Was it made on erroneous markets ? no Did it bypass limits allowed ? No indication yet Did OP have info/connections to certain players ? No, innocent until guilty. This way any book can deny all big winnings by making claims about player 'integrity'
Those are the things i can think of by which anyone's sport bet can be called 'unfair'
Let's see if I can hit two birds with one stone: namely giving you a hint of what actually happened and how, as well as indirectly inform OP why I ask him what I asked: OP, suppose you're going to give me answer to my question number three [depo address] and four [IP history], kindly tell me, will I see a perfectly normal data or will there be fluctuation too? In other words: whether your reluctance to answer, that's poured on above post of yours, is due to you thinking I'm on a witch hunt and grasping straw, or is that you trying to keep yourself from self incrimination? hope that will give you a hint, rohang. Otherwise, please bear with us for few more hours. OP's answer of whether he'll give his data or not, speaks volume that will help with the verdict itself.
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May 09, 2026, 04:25:33 PM |
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Holy i appreciate the work you do and time you spend on this forum for scam reports such as these
However with all due respect i would like to ask why you have not mentioned the games integrity in this post? You have not even mentioned what conclusion u drew from shuffle evidence. Was it about the game integrity? Was it about player betting behaviour?
I think OP behaviour, however suspicious it maybe, should be considered secondary w.r.t whether the game integrity is in question or not.
So, as per shuffle evidence, what conclusion did u drew? Was the match fair or not?
So, in a way, yes, it's player's game integrity. Was OP's bet fair?
What does player integrity have to do with the game result and how it played out ? How can OP's bet be 'unfair'? Was it made when the match was already live with wrong odds ? no Was it made on erroneous markets ? no Did it bypass limits allowed ? No indication yetDid OP have info/connections to certain players ? No, innocent until guilty. This way any book can deny all big winnings by making claims about player 'integrity' Those are the things i can think of by which anyone's sport bet can be called 'unfair' This is the best post of the thread. The OP’s actions had zero to do with changing the integrity of the game. Not one person said the match was fixed. It was just the opposite. Posters have said there’s no proof of a fix. Some things never change. Holy believes whatever a book says. Now rules are being made up because holy doesn’t understand the industry.
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holydarkness
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May 09, 2026, 04:36:42 PM |
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Some things never change. Holy believes whatever a book says. Now rules are being made up because holy doesn’t understand the industry.
here, focus your energy and attention here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5582570.0, and stop derailing this thread from resolution.
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pvzera1 (OP)
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May 09, 2026, 04:43:43 PM |
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OP's answer of whether he'll give his data or not, speaks volume that will help with the verdict itself.
It would also be important and fair for you to answer the core questions being asked to you. At this point, it honestly feels like the discussion is being dragged into an endless rabbit hole because the original narrative no longer holds up. And as I already mentioned before, I have nothing left to explain or prove. From my side, everything has already been properly demonstrated and supported.
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May 09, 2026, 04:45:56 PM Last edit: May 09, 2026, 04:55:59 PM by Rating Place |
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Some things never change. Holy believes whatever a book says. Now rules are being made up because holy doesn’t understand the industry.
here, focus your energy and attention here, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5582570.0, and stop derailing this thread from resolution. That’s a discussion for another day. You are derailing the thread. Why are you asking all these questions of the OP making up a rule about integrity of the bettor. If someone is a match fixer and the game is played in a fixed manner, that is changing the integrity of the game. Shuffle seems to be telling you there’s a rule against the players integrity. There is no such rule. Double blind studies, video recordings, time stamp in seconds which the book has access and the player may not, it’s a clown show. Questions of the parties should be bare minimum. In match fixing, you have to do your own homework. Line moves, box scores, game flow etc.
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degen01
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OP's answer of whether he'll give his data or not, speaks volume that will help with the verdict itself.
It would also be important and fair for you to answer the core questions being asked to you. At this point, it honestly feels like the discussion is being dragged into an endless rabbit hole because the original narrative no longer holds up. And as I already mentioned before, I have nothing left to explain or prove. From my side, everything has already been properly demonstrated and supported. Your posts/actions in this thread speaks volumes imo Every time holy asks for more information, you're reluctant to do so. You keep circling back to this started as a match integrity issue, so everything else is irrelevant. You come off as someone who knows that the more information you provide, the worse it looks for you. If you truly were confident that you've done nothing wrong, you'd provide any information without hesitation knowing there's a very good chance you'll get paid Just because it may have started as strictly a match integrity issue doesn't mean that shuffle has to ignore other potentially incriminating evidence that was discovered after the fact. The reluctance to provide any and all information requested by holy constantly referencing "strictly a match integrity issue" is by far the most telling thing in this thread Maybe I'm wrong, but you don't sound like someone who's innocent willing to do/provide whatever's asked of you to get paid
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May 09, 2026, 05:10:52 PM |
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OP's answer of whether he'll give his data or not, speaks volume that will help with the verdict itself.
It would also be important and fair for you to answer the core questions being asked to you. At this point, it honestly feels like the discussion is being dragged into an endless rabbit hole because the original narrative no longer holds up. And as I already mentioned before, I have nothing left to explain or prove. From my side, everything has already been properly demonstrated and supported. Your posts/actions in this thread speaks volumes imo Every time holy asks for more information, you're reluctant to do so. You keep circling back to this started as a match integrity issue, so everything else is irrelevant. You come off as someone who knows that the more information you provide, the worse it looks for you. If you truly were confident that you've done nothing wrong, you'd provide any information without hesitation knowing there's a very good chance you'll get paid Just because it may have started as strictly a match integrity issue doesn't mean that shuffle has to ignore other potentially incriminating evidence that was discovered after the fact. The reluctance to provide any and all information requested by holy constantly referencing "strictly a match integrity issue" is by far the most telling thing in this thread Maybe I'm wrong, but you don't sound like someone who's innocent willing to do/provide whatever's asked of you to get paid Arbitrators should not go outside the scope of the accusation. If they do, then they are the mouth of the sportsbook and not an arbitrator. Game play shows the match wasn’t fixed.
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holydarkness
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May 09, 2026, 05:34:48 PM |
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OP's answer of whether he'll give his data or not, speaks volume that will help with the verdict itself.
It would also be important and fair for you to answer the core questions being asked to you. At this point, it honestly feels like the discussion is being dragged into an endless rabbit hole because the original narrative no longer holds up. And as I already mentioned before, I have nothing left to explain or prove. From my side, everything has already been properly demonstrated and supported. Noted. With both parties at rest and/or decide to not give further details. Overseers, after reviewing evidences that both parties give willingly to me, be it for my eyes only or allowed to be shared publicly, I wil have to rule in favor of the casino, and that they've acted according to their ToS of integrity betting. Shuffle provide me beyond reasonable doubt that the player placed bet on the said match not under good will, nor according to integrity betting and/or agreement of account holding and usage. In short, Shuffle believe OP placed bet for someone else, under agreement of shared profit. More precisely... OP lend his account to someone else. Of which, is why I asked for his IP log, and of which he denied for some reason. Yes, a flag is given. It is redacted on some key point, but I have little to zero doubt that it is fabricated. Yes, the counter-accusation was followed by supporting evidence in abundance, several of which OP can't or refuse to make rebuttal, such as IP history, deposit address, and betting prefence that can't help me but to resort to the evidence given by Shuffle.  Aside from the clause earlier provided by Shuffle_Tim, where Shuffle flag the user for integrity issue, by accepting the offer and made the bet on other's behalf, OP also actively violate Shuffle's general ToS on 5.1.l and 5.1.n If I may explain a bit further, argumentatively, based on the timestamps where multi-legged bets are made, wagering fluctuation, where player bets on relatively low, < 350 USD per wager to consecutive 5,000 USD in one match, before returning back to the old wagering pattern, the outlier indicates that there is a foul play being involved, namely someone asked OP to put the bet on their behalf, with their fund on specific setting. Not to mention that the act is almost inhumanely possible: to place multi-legged bets in minutes. Possible? Yes, I've convered with three AI for it. Logically and humanely sound? No, not without the use of a bot and not what a recreational or professional bettor will do, as a normal bettor, even with multi-tab, will need to set everything at once, then click them in succession. Not to mention why? Why bother placing bets in rapid succession, like a predetermined decision already set, instead of carefully picking and strategizing. I'd ask the overseers to bear just a bit further and recall that the game in question is Same Game Multis, SGMs require multiple selection in single bet. A professional sportsbettor will more likely calculate their bet-builder that will reflect in the time stamp. A recreational sportsbettor? Even longer. tl;dr: OP lend his account to other user, the other user use the account to place those 5,000 USD bets [possibly with bot involved], under agreement of shared profit. Yes, flag exist. Yes, supporting written evidence exist. Yes, circumstantial evidence by OP's evasive action points to it. With this, the case shall be considered closed. By knot of three, thus shall it be: Shuffle acted accordingly as per their ToS upon integrity breach, both in match-placing and in account-ownership side.
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pvzera1 (OP)
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May 09, 2026, 06:52:34 PM |
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This case is not closed at all. I won fairly, using my own money, my own account, and logging in from the same places and devices I have always used. The accusations from Shuffle make no sense, and honestly, neither does this garbage mediation process that was supposed to be neutral and transparent but clearly was not.
The mediation was supposed to focus on the original accusation: alleged integrity concerns regarding the EVENT. Instead, the entire discussion got twisted into an endless interrogation about unrelated things, constantly moving goalposts and expanding far beyond what was originally agreed. That completely destroys the credibility of this so-called “binding mediation”.
I never had any issue showing deposits, login IPs, or anything else. The problem is obvious: no matter what I answered, more and more questions would keep appearing forever because the objective stopped being clarification and became trying to force a narrative that justified confiscating my winnings.
And where is Shuffle in all this? They barely even appear publicly. They don’t present evidence here, don’t defend their accusations openly, and don’t explain anything directly. Everything happens behind closed doors while my winnings get confiscated based on speculation and “trust me bro” conclusions.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that if I had actually committed such a serious violation, my account would obviously be suspended or permanently banned. But it isn’t. My account still works normally.
So what exactly are they claiming here? That I supposedly “lent” my account to someone else, yet the account remains active? Why did they ask for Level 3 verification and liveness checks then? Why were all verifications successfully completed? Why was the match itself admitted to be fair?
Too many questions still have no answers.
At the end of the day, there is still no concrete proof of match-fixing, no concrete proof I broke any rule, and no concrete proof I “lent” my account to anyone. Just assumptions, speculation, and a constantly changing narrative created after the bets won.
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May 09, 2026, 07:01:44 PM |
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Holy’s crooked. The fix was in. This is similar to when he switched sig campaigns to BetPanda to protect them. When the sig campaign ended holy admitted he was bias and reopened the case. He’s bought and sold easily.
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May 09, 2026, 07:03:58 PM Last edit: May 09, 2026, 07:58:08 PM by baba2020 Merited by Rating Place (5) |
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I have never seen anything like this in my life. Shuffle's 'evidence' was never released because it simply does not exist. Innocent people are not supposed to prove their innocence, yet OP was interrogated endlessly, asked to provide everything about his life, his account, his betting history, while Shuffle provided ZERO. Not a single sports provider flag, not a single report, not a single governing body statement, not any "IP" that prooves someone used his acc, shuffle should have all this evidences from his account. nothing. NOTHING. And yet the OP is the one being put on trial?
Initially I thought you were impartial and honest when you came into this thread saying you found no flags or reports from any providers. But after some talks with Tim, you proposed yourself as mediator, and from that point everything changed. You disregarded all the initial evidence, never demanded a single piece of proof from Shuffle's side(no, betting history is not evidence), and instead started firing hundreds of questions at the OP like a Shuffle advocate, not a neutral mediator. The transformation was remarkable, and not in a good way.
Come on holydarkness, how much did Tim or Noah pay you to 'decide' this mediation? Because that's exactly what this looks like. They couldn´t even come here to defend themselves because they know they don´t have any valid argument, pathetic.
And let's talk about your mediation being completely invalid and garbage. You couldn't even follow the basic terms of the agreement that OP wrote. OP allowed Shuffle to submit evidence related to the integrity of the specific event and match fixing. What did Shuffle send you? His betting history. That's it. That's their 'evidence'. And you ran with it like it meant something. And kept asking for inumerous other things not related to anything that was agreed and worst, didn´t even any provide any evidence of any other issue related to his account. This is not mediation. This is a joke. A bad one. Hahahaha come on, you could apply directly for Shuffle's advocate.
Now you can "nudge" Tim and get a beer to celebrate.
Shuffle´s pocket exists, don´t place big sports bet there. Long live Stake, Roobet, Polymarket.
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holydarkness
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May 09, 2026, 08:03:16 PM |
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This case is not closed at all. I won fairly, using my own money, my own account, and logging in from the same places and devices I have always used. The accusations from Shuffle make no sense, and honestly, neither does this garbage mediation process that was supposed to be neutral and transparent but clearly was not.
The mediation was supposed to focus on the original accusation: alleged integrity concerns regarding the EVENT. Instead, the entire discussion got twisted into an endless interrogation about unrelated things, constantly moving goalposts and expanding far beyond what was originally agreed. That completely destroys the credibility of this so-called “binding mediation”.
I never had any issue showing deposits, login IPs, or anything else. The problem is obvious: no matter what I answered, more and more questions would keep appearing forever because the objective stopped being clarification and became trying to force a narrative that justified confiscating my winnings.
And where is Shuffle in all this? They barely even appear publicly. They don’t present evidence here, don’t defend their accusations openly, and don’t explain anything directly. Everything happens behind closed doors while my winnings get confiscated based on speculation and “trust me bro” conclusions.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that if I had actually committed such a serious violation, my account would obviously be suspended or permanently banned. But it isn’t. My account still works normally.
So what exactly are they claiming here? That I supposedly “lent” my account to someone else, yet the account remains active? Why did they ask for Level 3 verification and liveness checks then? Why were all verifications successfully completed? Why was the match itself admitted to be fair?
Too many questions still have no answers.
At the end of the day, there is still no concrete proof of match-fixing, no concrete proof I broke any rule, and no concrete proof I “lent” my account to anyone. Just assumptions, speculation, and a constantly changing narrative created after the bets won.
Okay, send me your IP details in private and the blockchain transaction for those depo. By overseers [the ones with neutrality, not the biased two] agreement, I will undo my spell and open for re-investigation.
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As i have been just following this case from the shadows, just for pure entertainment, i feel something needs to be answered here. As soon as i saw holydarkness's response to rohang's questions, i immediatly thought, then why wasn't the player banned? OP's response to the verdict made the same question i had in mind.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that if I had actually committed such a serious violation, my account would obviously be suspended or permanently banned. But it isn’t. My account still works normally.
I think this is a very valid and pertinent question to ask. If OP really lend his account or use other player's funds, and Shuffle has proof of that, then why were only those bets with higher stakes voided and not all of them, and why wasn't the player immediatly banned from the platform?
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May 09, 2026, 08:11:23 PM |
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The accusation was match fixing. holy is grasping at straws and changing the rules.
The OP was set up. That's why holy was the one that pushed for it to be binding. Neither party initiated that talk.
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holydarkness
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A sinner-saint and a kind bitch
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May 09, 2026, 08:14:04 PM |
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As i have been just following this case from the shadows, just for pure entertainment, i feel something needs to be answered here. As soon as i saw holydarkness's response to rohang's questions, i immediatly thought, then why wasn't the player banned? OP's response to the verdict made the same question i had in mind.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that if I had actually committed such a serious violation, my account would obviously be suspended or permanently banned. But it isn’t. My account still works normally.
I think this is a very pertinent question to ask. If OP really lend his account or use other player's funds, and Shuffle has proof of that, then why were only those bets with higher stakes voided and not all of them, and why wasn't the player immediatly banned from the platform? The OP got his wager refunded, only the winning voided, and he made this thread, though at this point all signs point to him being guilty [covering up and all], can you imagine if he got his account closed? Two guesses: one, Shuffle being open minded and fair and want it to be totally cleared before taking the drastic measure or maybe Shuffle just want to be lenient on him and give him a stern warning by following the flag to void and will ban for second offense. If we want to get his account locked following my verdict, I believe it can be arranged rather easily.
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May 09, 2026, 08:15:10 PM |
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As i have been just following this case from the shadows, just for pure entertainment, i feel something needs to be answered here. As soon as i saw holydarkness's response to rohang's questions, i immediatly thought, then why wasn't the player banned? OP's response to the verdict made the same question i had in mind.
What makes this even more ridiculous is that if I had actually committed such a serious violation, my account would obviously be suspended or permanently banned. But it isn’t. My account still works normally.
I think this is a very pertinent question to ask. If OP really lend his account or use other player's funds, and Shuffle has proof of that, then why were only those bets with higher stakes voided and not all of them, and why wasn't the player immediatly banned from the platform? The OP got his wager refunded, only the winning voided, and he made this thread, though at this point all signs point to him being guilty [covering up and all], can you imagine if he got his account closed? Two guesses: one, Shuffle being open minded and fair and want it to be totally cleared before taking the drastic measure or maybe Shuffle just want to be lenient on him and give him a stern warning by following the flag to void and will ban for second offense. If we want to get his account locked following my verdict, I believe it can be arranged rather easily. You set the OP up. Why did you introduce that the case be binding. It was a fix just like BetPanda and who knows how many more.
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