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Today at 05:24:59 AM
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I don't know if a topic on this have been written before,  but I haven't seen one. Anyways let's get to it.

INTRODUCTION

Quoting a user or anyone else is a vital point in this forum, it can also be used to avoid plagiarism by quoting the original source of the information or post made as illustrated in this thread, and this I'll talk briefly about quoting.

When I started in this forum as a newbie, I had issues with quoting, I really didn't know how to quote properly, this is one of the mistakes I made(zoom in to see better):

         

The first image is the mistake I made as a newbie.
The second image is the deletion and the correction message I got from the board moderator.
The third image is a similar mistake done by another newbie.

FORUM RULES ON QUOTING

These mistakes clearly violate rule 32 of Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ that says;

Quote from: mprep
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.
This mistake leads to either immediate merging or deletion of the follow up posts, so when quoting multiple users, put all your quotes in a single reply in as much as the posts you are quoting are before your reply, if it is after your reply, you can quote them separately so as to avoid posting multiple posts in a row.

but there is also a good advice on this forum, like the one from Fillipone where he said

Quote from: Fillipone
Corollary: Quote politely: bad quoting can worsen the reading experience of other users.  Quoting the whole message to answer only a specific part below, or answer a few question all below the quoted text are bad practices. This is something not related to this forum specifically, so you might already know about what I am saying here. If you don't please get used to best quoting practice reading one of the many good guides out there, like this one.

QUOTING EXAMPLES

You can edit your quotes as much as you like, highlighting and or keeping only what you want to specifically talk about, it is really flexible, here is another thread that talks about proper quoting, [TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies).

There are 2 required things that makes up a BBCode quote, and 3 optional parts, they are;

1) Opening quote tag
Code:
 [quote] 
2) Closing quote tag
Code:
 [/quote] 

Optional features:

3) author: Owner of the quote you are quoting
4) link: direct link to the quote you are quoting
5) date: date when the quote you are quoting was made in unix timestamp.

E.g
Code:
Without link and date:

[quote author=quote owner] ===> opening tag
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.
[/quote] ===> closing tag
Your reply

With link and date, you can click the quote button on any post and you will have the full feature.

This will look like

Quote from: quote owner
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

Your reply

E.g for multiple quoting
Code:

[quote author=quote owner1]
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.
[/quote]
Your reply

[quote author=quote owner2]
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.
[/quote]
Your reply


How it will look like:
Quote from: quote owner1

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.

Your reply

Quote from: quote owner2
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit,
sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua.
Your reply

TL;DR:
1) Avoid posting multiple replies in a row just to quote different users.
2) Edit quotes to keep only the relevant parts you are talking about.
3) Avoid long pyramid quotes as much as possible (i.e. multiple nested quotes).
4) Always reply under the quote for clarity.

Note: the same topic might have been out there, but I searched and didn't see, my main purpose of doing this is to educate newbies on how to quote because this is like one of the newbie's mistakes I've seen, if this constitute a spam in any way, mod please go ahead and delete, thanks.

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Today at 05:50:22 AM
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I don't know if a topic on this have been written before,  but I haven't seen one. Anyways let's get to it.
If you are unsure, you can do your searching and if you don't know how to search, you can learn about it.
[Guide] Searching effectively.

You can find my guide about posting too.
Bitcointalk posting etiquette.

Other guides about writing and quoting from other users.
[Tips] Posting technique.
[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies).
Post formatting.

Script to do quoting.
User Script: Automatically remove nested quotes v1.1.1

 
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Today at 06:01:35 AM
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I don't know if a topic on this have been written before,  but I haven't seen one. Anyways let's get to it.
If you are unsure, you can do your searching and if you don't know how to search, you can learn about it.
[Guide] Searching effectively.

You can find my guide about posting too.
Bitcointalk posting etiquette.

Other guides about writing and quoting from other users.
[Tips] Posting technique.
[TIPS] to avoid pyramid quotes (for Newbies).
Post formatting.

Script to do quoting.
User Script: Automatically remove nested quotes v1.1.1
These are very useful information, thanks for this. I actually did a little search, and yes I did see some posts about quoting, but not exactly as I had in mind, and that's why I included some links as I have found. But anyways, thanks to the search effective guide, there were some good information there that I didn't even know about searching.

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Today at 08:02:04 AM
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TL;DR:
1) Avoid posting multiple replies in a row just to quote different users.
2) Edit quotes to keep only the relevant parts you are talking about.
3) Avoid long pyramid quotes as much as possible (i.e. multiple nested quotes).
4) Always reply under the quote for clarity.
1) Actually, this is a general rule and not specific to quoting.
3)That's true, but there's no forum rule against it. If you do it, many forum members might ignore you.

Honestly, I find quoting is something anyone can do without needing a guide (unless you're using a phone, in which case the whole experience is awful)

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TL;DR:
1) Avoid posting multiple replies in a row just to quote different users.
1) Actually, this is a general rule and not specific to quoting.
Actually there is a rule related to posting and quoting.
Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ.
1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads. [1][e]

Examples:
1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.

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Today at 09:13:29 AM
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TL;DR:
1) Avoid posting multiple replies in a row just to quote different users.
2) Edit quotes to keep only the relevant parts you are talking about.
3) Avoid long pyramid quotes as much as possible (i.e. multiple nested quotes).
4) Always reply under the quote for clarity.

Note: the same topic might have been out there, but I searched and didn't see, my main purpose of doing this is to educate newbies on how to quote because this is like one of the newbie's mistakes I've seen, if this constitute a spam in any way, mod please go ahead and delete, thanks.
Good guidelines you have there, and you've done well AFAIK, though it's a gradual process, as the one you shared is the basic, and quoting could get complex depending on the multitude of what you are replying to. I've read some people believing that it could be naturally known by everyone, but that's wrong because basic things like this are not basic for many people and we are not smart the same way. And even if it has been guided in articles before, some simple reminders like this are not out of course because many old written guides are often hidden/unpopular.

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Today at 09:34:56 AM
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Already exists, closing.

 
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