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April 14, 2026, 08:27:13 PM
Last edit: April 15, 2026, 02:44:42 AM by Rating Place
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Holy admits to his bias and gave me negative trust the day after I criticized BetPanda many times

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II admit openly that there is a bias in my previous judgment and your question to me made me see in new perspective

This just shows that HD is capable of humility. He is open to entertaining new viewpoints. This is a beneficial quality no matter how you want to frame it.

holy is the reason winnings are being stolen. Don't negotiate, force the book to show proof.

Cmon man, 2 days ago you said you didn't want to "step on holy's toes" and now you are saying this desperate nonsense. If you could do what he's doing, then you would be doing it yourself -- end of story.

I can understand holy's friends not wanting to criticize him and that's fine. For the integrity of the trust system, the negative trust should be taken down.

The negative trust is 100% justified and reinforced by your behavior in this thread.

You poked the bear, poked & poked, and then one day the bear poked back. Then you have the nerve to be indignant about it.
I spent 10 years in one place doing my own thing. I came over to scam accusations because I saw a scam being run on holy and wanted to give the players a voice since holy is the book’s voice to confiscate winnings. Books aren’t the middleman. I don’t want anything to do with guy. He takes down the trust and I go back to my thread.

edit- @Shishir99, If I wanted holy's attention, I'd be in scam accusations . I'm here to defend trust abuse.
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April 15, 2026, 04:18:34 AM
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Holy admits to his bias and gave me negative trust the day after I criticized BetPanda many times

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II admit openly that there is a bias in my previous judgment and your question to me made me see in new perspective

This just shows that HD is capable of humility. He is open to entertaining new viewpoints. This is a beneficial quality no matter how you want to frame it.

holy is the reason winnings are being stolen. Don't negotiate, force the book to show proof.

Cmon man, 2 days ago you said you didn't want to "step on holy's toes" and now you are saying this desperate nonsense. If you could do what he's doing, then you would be doing it yourself -- end of story.

I can understand holy's friends not wanting to criticize him and that's fine. For the integrity of the trust system, the negative trust should be taken down.

The negative trust is 100% justified and reinforced by your behavior in this thread.

You poked the bear, poked & poked, and then one day the bear poked back. Then you have the nerve to be indignant about it.
I spent 10 years in one place doing my own thing. I came over to scam accusations because I saw a scam being run on holy and wanted to give the players a voice since holy is the book’s voice to confiscate winnings. Books aren’t the middleman. I don’t want anything to do with guy. He takes down the trust and I go back to my thread.

edit- @Shishir99, If I wanted holy's attention, I'd be in scam accusations . I'm here to defend trust abuse.
If you really wanted someone to consider removing a tag, you should probably stop commenting in this thread and keeping the issue hot. You just push push push and it'll get you nowhere man.

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April 15, 2026, 05:10:27 AM
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Holy admits to his bias and gave me negative trust the day after I criticized BetPanda many times

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II admit openly that there is a bias in my previous judgment and your question to me made me see in new perspective

This just shows that HD is capable of humility. He is open to entertaining new viewpoints. This is a beneficial quality no matter how you want to frame it.

holy is the reason winnings are being stolen. Don't negotiate, force the book to show proof.

Cmon man, 2 days ago you said you didn't want to "step on holy's toes" and now you are saying this desperate nonsense. If you could do what he's doing, then you would be doing it yourself -- end of story.

I can understand holy's friends not wanting to criticize him and that's fine. For the integrity of the trust system, the negative trust should be taken down.
I respect you and you're probably right that it won't get me anywhere. I'll keep it to this thread.
The negative trust is 100% justified and reinforced by your behavior in this thread.

You poked the bear, poked & poked, and then one day the bear poked back. Then you have the nerve to be indignant about it.
I spent 10 years in one place doing my own thing. I came over to scam accusations because I saw a scam being run on holy and wanted to give the players a voice since holy is the book’s voice to confiscate winnings. Books aren’t the middleman. I don’t want anything to do with guy. He takes down the trust and I go back to my thread.

edit- @Shishir99, If I wanted holy's attention, I'd be in scam accusations . I'm here to defend trust abuse.
If you really wanted someone to consider removing a tag, you should probably stop commenting in this thread and keeping the issue hot. You just push push push and it'll get you nowhere man.
I respect you and you're probably right. I'll keep it to this thread.

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Holy hides the betslips to cover up the BetPanda heist. Shocked


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We can figure this out on our own if we see the bets.

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BetPanda's an awful book. It doesn't seem as though they are going to listen to any of us. This case shouldn't be listed resolved

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Betpanda has given us the runaround for 2 months. The only thing that’s needed is for BetPanda to post the wagers. Then people can make their own decision on if it’s a bad line

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Still waiting on BetPanda to send me / publish the bet history to show that none of my bets were irregular and they were comparable with other markets.

Holy wants the betslips kept private for his eyes only
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Umm... with no intention to insult you, I suggest you to ignore those who suggest and/or demand BetPanda [or other casinos, for a fact] to publish your betting history from their side. Far as I know [and by it, I mean I've been talking with several casinos representatives [both plurals, as in so many people in so many different casinos]] they can't publish it online, even with player's blessings due to GDPR and it's law-of-customer's-data-protection equivalence across the globe, as well as the one they have, that is demanded to be published, with or without the player's blessings, is a violation to their own proprietary.

The data from their side is theirs, not yours.

So, even with your blessings, they can't just post list of your bets publicly as it will automatically violate customer's data protection at the worst, and/as-well-as, within their right to retain from sharing publicly what is considered [and I pretty much sure you've agreed when you clicked ToS checkbox] as theirs.

Best way is to get a for-private-eyes-only verification. It is still have to go through a lot of red tape of GDPR [and its equivalent] and high-chairs approval, but it is more likely to happen rather than demanding public publishing. So... yeah, please just ignore the ignorant idea to publish them for public eyes.

Forum pressure continued and prevailed. BetPanda opened up the players account and he posted the bet slips.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5574049.0

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