Newbies don’t buy forum account from anyone.

[Somegory]

I remember when I started posting newly on this forum someone PM me and was trying to bring me to a discussion of account buying and when I noticed he was trying to lead me to such discussion I stopped discussing with him and I know some newbies back then or now have had same experience and may have even fallen victim, I don't support account buying also in this forum, just imagine a trusted legendary member decides to sell his account to someone who is a scammer believe me he will use the account to scam so many people, so this is one of the reasons I don't support account buying.
OP you did well by creating this thread, newbies should read and be informed, they should understand they will surely be caught if they get involved in account buying and again it will be better that rule concerning account buying and selling should be reviewed and changed.

Someone PMed me too about some accounts and I don't want to expose them that's why I don't say anything, the account they used isn't a newbie or Jr member rank, it's a high rank account but what's the gain if I expose them? My yes is yes and no is no.

I don't see any good reason why I should buy an account and start using it, when I can focus on a brand new account and make good use of it, the forum permits more than one account, but signature campaign don't.

You can tell if an account belongs to the same person who created it in the first place, typing on here always leave behind some traces, also a beginner can remain a beginner if they buy a high rank account, because so far they have learnt nothing.

[Popkon6]

Good advice for beginners, because beginners can definitely correct themselves from here. Because many people do not want to grow their accounts or fail to grow them, so as an alternative they take the step of buying accounts, so it is absolutely discouraged to hope for such things. All those who have purchased accounts have not been able to survive properly, they have to be punished for the crime, as you can see here. Those who have purchased accounts and have been proven have definitely been punished.
Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded

[Razmirraz]

According to the rules of this forum you are free to buy bitcointalk forum account from another member in this forum and it’s not against the rules of this forum.

Assuming that they spend $200 for a Senior member account or $500 for a Hero member or Legendary member account, they believe that they can use bought account for signature campaigns several weeks and get their initial fund back. It's their belief while with merit system, bought accounts have no chance to be accepted in signature campaigns, except in bounties that are useless in getting money.

The belief that purchased accounts such as Senior Member/Hero/Legendary can withdraw the money spent to purchase the account after being accepted in the BTC paid signature campaign is a very unprofitable gamble because there is no guarantee that it will be immediately accepted in the Campaign or instant income. Purchased accounts (if the new owner is a beginner) are also very easy to detect because they often have low quality posts and their patterns change drastically or from quality to spam.

Buying accounts is also a high-risk, high-failure activity. While it doesn't directly impact the risk of a lack of knowledge of forum rules and account management, such as excessively posting spam or AI-generated posts, it does increase the risk of being flagged negatively by DT or banned. If this worst case scenario happens, the capital spent to purchase the account will be lost instantly.

The best advice for beginners is to build your own account slowly while learning everything needed to gradually increase your account rank, even though the process is a little slow, this method is safer and more manageable in the long run.

[OsaiEmma]

According to the rules of this forum you are free to buy bitcointalk forum account from another member in this forum and it’s not against the rules of this forum.
But don’t believe that rule, the act of buying account from another member in this forum is actually seen as illegal by a lot of members in this forum and when you are caught for account buying many DT members will give the account you bought a negative feedback and that will destroy what ever you wanted to do with the account because no one will trust doing any business or deal with you since it carries a negative feedback.

If anyone PM you that you can buy their account and no one will know about it, don’t accept because by your writing people will know it has changed hands and the account may have said something a long time ago and you may count it later without you knowing and you may be caught, you don’t share same thought with the real owner so you will surely counter each other and you cannot permanently delete something you have posted here in this forum because anyone can see all you have deleted, so don’t waste your money by buying account in this forum, grow your account by yourself patiently.

Well, I know a lot of old members (legendary members) especially the DT's do frown on this, and from what I have read and seen, it's mainly because some use it to cheat, and scam in the forum, but in my honest opinion, I don't think it's right to red tag a bought account if they maintain forum rules.

Rules are meant to be upheld, if DT's red tag a bought account keeping a good conduct in the forum, even if the account was bought to make money here, i don't think it's right, I mean, if making money in the forum is bad, then they should remove that feature from the forum, cause sometimes I see some people talking about it like it is wrong to do so.

There are rules and regulations, buying an account is not against them, so to me, it's not an issue, rather than saying don't buy account, I'll say, don't cheat and break forum rules with bought accounts.

[Tungbulu]

Good advice for beginners, because beginners can definitely correct themselves from here. Because many people do not want to grow their accounts or fail to grow them, so as an alternative they take the step of buying accounts, so it is absolutely discouraged to hope for such things. All those who have purchased accounts have not been able to survive properly, they have to be punished for the crime, as you can see here. Those who have purchased accounts and have been proven have definitely been punished.
Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded

Let's even assume that accounting trading is a good thing, what is the guarantee that the person who you're buying the account from hasn't committed a fraud or a serious offence with the account, and maybe he hasn't been just caught yet, don't people think about stuffs like this before taking certain decisions?

I honestly do not see any reason why people should even resort to account selling/buying, I mean why not just register one and gradually build it to the level you want it to be? Although the main reason why some people consider buying account is to get into a signature campaign quickly, but even they eventually manage to do so, there's every tendency that the account might get linked to another account which may have even been tagged, which means they'll still end up getting kicked out of a campaign.

[Big Dirams]

Let's even assume that accounting trading is a good thing, what is the guarantee that the person who you're buying the account from hasn't committed a fraud or a serious offence with the account, and maybe he hasn't been just caught yet, don't people think about stuffs like this before taking certain decisions?

I honestly do not see any reason why people should even resort to account selling/buying, I mean why not just register one and gradually build it to the level you want it to be? Although the main reason why some people consider buying account is to get into a signature campaign quickly, but even they eventually manage to do so, there's every tendency that the account might get linked to another account which may have even been tagged, which means they'll still end up getting kicked out of a campaign.

Many people don’t think to this extent at all not because they can see all this possibility of things like this happening but they just choose not to care at all about the future outcome. The only possible things they thought about is just how fast they could secure the account and be part of a signature campaign just to make money from the forum that all they are hoping for.
 Either one day or the other there would definitely be some little stain on the account or things might end up linking to another so let not see buying of an account as an option at all. Let do it ourselves after all we all are having a single head and brain like others it just mindset and determination and we can be where ever we want to be.

[Tungbulu]

Either one day or the other there would definitely be some little stain on the account or things might end up linking to another so let not see buying of an account as an option at all. Let do it ourselves after all we all are having a single head and brain like others it just mindset and determination and we can be where ever we want to be.

Even if there's actually no stain or dirt on the account, buying an account could get you tagged if caught. It's not just worth it, even if you manage to conceal it very well. i have this mindset that nothing is hidden under the sun, as long as it was done under the sun, it can only take time before it'll be brought to book, and when that eventually happens, even if the person hasn't done any crime, and even if buying an account isn't actually breaking any rules, your aim of buying that account could end up getting jeopardised when you  get caught and start receiving some tags.

[Freeveto]

Buying an account is like buying a university degree without going through lectures and examination. A newbie who buys a high ranking account would be shitposting since he lacks the knowledge of Bitcoin or the forum. Newbies should dedicate their time to learn rather than going through shortcuts which might not end up well. High ranking accounts could also be used for scam since they have build reputation on the forum. Selling of account should be highly discouraged because it has more disadvantaged than advantage.

I do agree with your point, because anyone or a newbie with a genuine intention of learning about Bitcoin basically wouldn't want to jump the process and would want to go through the normal process of growing with time without taking any boycott. Even newbies rarely know about account sales and, even in some cases, wouldn't even care about the ranking system except if they decided to explore other benefits of being a member of this forum.

This trade shouldn't be channeled to newbies alone, but account sales should be discouraged generally. I think the problem is that the forum permits sales of accounts in the first place, because you can't give someone a gun and completely stop them from shouting; it's practically impossible. There are some of the rules that end up fighting back, disrupting, and messing up the system.

[qwertyup23]

While the sale is not illegal perse the better term here would would be discouraged and avoided.

The reason is simple- forum accounts are personal in nature. Whatever information or message that contains on your account, it stays with it or until you deleted it. Unfortunately, however, lots of people try to circumvent different forum rules by purchasing used accounts. Again, while the act of purchasing is not illegal, what is illegal are the acts done after purchasing such account.

Either one day or the other there would definitely be some little stain on the account or things might end up linking to another so let not see buying of an account as an option at all. Let do it ourselves after all we all are having a single head and brain like others it just mindset and determination and we can be where ever we want to be.

Even if there's actually no stain or dirt on the account, buying an account could get you tagged if caught. It's not just worth it, even if you manage to conceal it very well. i have this mindset that nothing is hidden under the sun, as long as it was done under the sun, it can only take time before it'll be brought to book, and when that eventually happens, even if the person hasn't done any crime, and even if buying an account isn't actually breaking any rules, your aim of buying that account could end up getting jeopardised when you  get caught and start receiving some tags.

Imagine purchasing a used account solely for the purpose of participating it on campaign signatures only to get negatively tagged. That nullifies the purpose on why you did it on the first place. Again, this kind of act is heavily discouraged and should immediately be avoided by newbies who are new to this forum. Better to start a zero than to have a head start only to go back to the starting position.

[Tetu100]

Buying of account? this sound so strange to me and it make no sense for someone to come up with such an idea at his very first time in the forum, that is a red flag. At first why will a newbie that's just starting ever thinking of buying an already made account when he can actually build one for himself. What his intention? And why looking for an account to buy, why the too much haste if I may ask? this are critical questions we need to ask and find out from both the seller and buyer because for someone to have such mindset simply mean his intention are not clear and he's definitely up to something we haven't figured out yet.  However, most people involved in this act are not people to be associated with because for someone to actually pay heavily for what he can make simply means their is more to it that our two eyes can not see.

[Strawbs21]

Buying of account? this sound so strange to me and it make no sense for someone to come up with such an idea at his very first time in the forum, that is a red flag. At first why will a newbie that's just starting ever thinking of buying an already made account when he can actually build one for himself. What his intention? And why looking for an account to buy, why the too much haste if I may ask? this are critical questions we need to ask and find out from both the seller and buyer because for someone to have such mindset simply mean his intention are not clear and he's definitely up to something we haven't figured out yet.  However, most people involved in this act are not people to be associated with because for someone to actually pay heavily for what he can make simply means their is more to it that our two eyes can not see.

Could it be that the newbie is not new about the forum and know that someone is selling an account?
If I'm the newbie,  buying account will not be an option, better create an account and learn in the forum, since there are people who can help you on lots of things like, how trade, how to do mining, also trade information with other members, its fun here in the forum I think, since I saw contest like art contest in the services section, I will be joining that contest in the future, but right now I just want to explore and learn things about crypto in this forum.

[Rubuchi]

Good advice for beginners, because beginners can definitely correct themselves from here. Because many people do not want to grow their accounts or fail to grow them, so as an alternative they take the step of buying accounts, so it is absolutely discouraged to hope for such things. All those who have purchased accounts have not been able to survive properly, they have to be punished for the crime, as you can see here. Those who have purchased accounts and have been proven have definitely been punished.
Old Accounts That Have Likely Been Hacked/Traded

i discourage such practices. Instead of saying I want to buy an existing account which can put you in mess after you have spent all the money you have gathered. Patient people are those who enjoy the most in this life. Anyone who chooses patience will hardly suffer from it. Some persons might say why did you choose patience that you are not smart or you are not wise enough but I have never had of anybody’s story who chose patience and got disappointed, it has always been beneficial either in short term or mostly in the long run.

Imagine purchasing a used account solely for the purpose of participating it on campaign signatures only to get negatively tagged. That nullifies the purpose on why you did it on the first place. Again, this kind of act is heavily discouraged and should immediately be avoided by newbies who are new to this forum. Better to start a zero than to have a head start only to go back to the starting position.

you are right that is what I’m also thinking here. If you purchase any account for the sole purpose of using them to get into a campaign that should not be encouraged because what do you do is not your sweat though I guess some individuals will still have a different opinion of this.

[Juicyhome]

Buying of account? this sound so strange to me and it make no sense for someone to come up with such an idea at his very first time in the forum, that is a red flag. At first why will a newbie that's just starting ever thinking of buying an already made account when he can actually build one for himself. What his intention? And why looking for an account to buy, why the too much haste if I may ask? this are critical questions we need to ask and find out from both the seller and buyer because for someone to have such mindset simply mean his intention are not clear and he's definitely up to something we haven't figured out yet.  However, most people involved in this act are not people to be associated with because for someone to actually pay heavily for what he can make simply means their is more to it that our two eyes can not see.

It's a crazy world, this generation that want to work hard or build anything they just want to enjoy, how does it make sense to buy an account when you can actually build one for yourself, some people are too weak and lazy to establish something on their own they want already made stuff, I think they buy account just to apply for campaign,they just want to jump step and make money from the forum, they don't want to learn and develop themselves first.

The obvious truth is that no bought account can last or a week, is a waste of money because you will be red tag once you're caught, there is no way you will write and post like the former owner, be assured that you be be caught, it's better you build one account for yourself and learn than to hurry buy already made account as newbies, it's unacceptable act on this forum, this forum was designed on integrity and trust and all members must respect and act on it, cheating isn't allowed at tall.

[tech30338]

Imagine using an account that you bought, then suddenly you will be posting how to do this and this, asking question like how to create a wallet, etc., suddenly their post becomes like a newbie like posting, also they suddenly becomes inactive, for a while because they don't know how to post, or even if they might post, it sounds very off.
They will never also experience the challenge and adventure of being a new member, having to deal with posting getting to know what are the things, like they should avoid, what are the things I should do, also being unfamiliar with the local board, like other comments don't waste your money instead build your own, and use the money on other things.

[Bitcoin.com97]

Buying account is a sign of inpatient, if not why will one jump into buying account instead of growing his own account, for every action there is an equal reaction , if you rush to buy account, you may also be caught with time , and the regret will be much , you will wish you had patience rather than looking for already made.

My advice to newbies , kill the habit of laziness and inpatient, consistency and hardwork pays off , avoid act that will lead to regrets, nothing good comes easily, but with dedication and been consistent it will always yield good result.

[NNRR]

Shortcuts like buying an account may give you a short-term advantage, but they almost always lead to long-term problems. Organic growth is slower, but it builds something that actually lasts  your reputation and trust.

Suggest For new user  focus on learning, contributing, and improving over time. That’s how you create real value on this forum.

[Rgram]

I don’t think newbies are the people that are usually involved with account purchases. If you look at the majority of users that are tangled in this account sales and buys, they are usually those that have being on the forum for a while and already knows how the forum works.
A genuine newbie wouldn’t do that, they would be more concerned on learning the rules here, how it applies and how the forum works generally before even considering such a thing as buying of an account.

[Man of peace]

Honestly your thread has a very good point, and it's a very important information to everyone here especially the newbies in the forum,in addition to what OP have just said,do not be decieved by anyone to buy account in the forum instead grow your own no matter how long it will take you to do that, because it's very far better than the account you buy in the forum,..

Account buying in the forum has so many disadvantage than the advantage, and some of the disadvantage attached to it may be unseen by you the buyer but the seller is aware about that..so it's not encouraging at all, patient is the best way to go than buying account in the forum...

[Wiwo]

Imagine using an account that you bought, then suddenly you will be posting how to do this and this, asking question like how to create a wallet, etc., suddenly their post becomes like a newbie like posting, also they suddenly becomes inactive, for a while because they don't know how to post, or even if they might post, it sounds very off.
They will never also experience the challenge and adventure of being a new member, having to deal with posting getting to know what are the things, like they should avoid, what are the things I should do, also being unfamiliar with the local board, like other comments don't waste your money instead build your own, and use the money on other things.

The quality of an account is as good as the person handling,  is very obvious to notice the change in quality at a spot, so account buyer's already have that shady intention of hiding from the Eagle eye's for as long as their enterprise last.

Again only scammers buy accounts most times and their reasons is not far from using the account to scam unsuspecting members of the public using the old owners reputations.

That is why most account buyer's targets high rank members accounts.

[Juicyhome]

Shortcuts like buying an account may give you a short-term advantage, but they almost always lead to long-term problems. Organic growth is slower, but it builds something that actually lasts  your reputation and trust.

Suggest For new user  focus on learning, contributing, and improving over time. That’s how you create real value on this forum.

You're right, this is the only way to stay long on this forum through dedication and patience, you can't  grow overnight on this forum, you have to build from scratch, no buying account can stay for long on this forum, you can't be smarter than anyone here, we know bought account no matter how you hide it, so instead of wasting money on buying account and it will be red tag later in the future you better use same energy to build new account and stay consistent.

It's joyful when you build your account and you grow with it, don't be in haste to make quick money on this forum by buying already made account, you will be caught.