Bitcointalk Defensive Alliance

[Free Market Capitalist]

Ok, I see now.

I haven't interacted with 1miau much. Not that I can remember. More with icopress and also Gazeta. I think that after being away from the forum for a while, 1miau thought this would be a good idea, although it's a little odd that he didn't discuss it with the other two first. I've already mentioned the main problem I see with this, that injustices should be addressed within the DT system with ~, regardless of which club or alliance one belongs to. Otherwise, another injustice would be committed, in which a member would be defended only by certain people based on their membership in the alliance, and not because of the injustice itself.

I mean, I think he probably meant well, but I don't think it's practical.

[NeuroticFish]

I'd say it's better if everyone uses the Trust system by the book:

Trust list: a list of people whose judgement on others you trust (username) or don't trust (~username).

There's no need to form an alliance, and there's no need to "retaliate" against accusations. Just vote through your Trust list.

You do have a valid point, but imho in the same way people are not perfect, this trust system is also not perfect.
Sadly I don't have a really good idea how to make it better, but maybe some kind of "separation of powers" may be of help and maybe this is one new such power/estate, if done properly.

I don't know if the idea was thought well, maybe 1miau needs more time or some help with good ideas instead of negativity... I somehow hoped for more support for the good intention, at least...

[JollyGood]

If we support one defensive alliance, does that mean we should defend any other defensive alliances? What happens if a group of members get together to form an alliance and cite this particular thread as the reason why they too deserve support?

I reiterate my advice, there is a trust system already in place. If members feel it should be updated/modified then create a thread about that instead of creating alliances that cause more friction between members.

[vapourminer]

sounds like a bad idea to me

what happens when the "Bitcointalk Defensive Alliance" has a war with the "Bitcointalk Defensive Coalition" ?

will be very ugly

cant wait

[Excimer]

don't fed the troll

Unfortunately, I have to announce 1miau is dead.  

that attention seeker 1miau collected ton of merits by its ridiculous seeking about his fake death or by means of creating ridiculous alliances

At November 2025


Now  


Can't you all see how you're being stupidly trolled? There's already a DT system in place that's already working. Other alternative alliances are a trust abusing botnet

[mv1986]

don't fed the troll

Unfortunately, I have to announce 1miau is dead.  

that attention seeker 1miau collected ton of merits by its ridiculous seeking about his fake death or by means of creating ridiculous alliances

At November 2025


Now  


Can't you all see how you're being stupidly trolled? There's already a DT system in place that's already working. Other alternative alliances are a trust abusing botnet

Ton of merits? Maybe by your standard, but I doubt 1miau faked his death to collect what, 40 merits in total, including the opening of this thread? I don't care what you think about the alliance or don't think about it, but the idea that 1miau did it for merits actually doesn't deserve any merit, because it's dumb.

[Excimer]

because it's dumb.

Those who fake deaths should not be trusted. Because faking death is stupid.

but the idea that 1miau did it for merits actually doesn't deserve any merit

Okay 1miau did it for the trolling. This is even worse than merit farming.

It turns out this user is doubly untrustworthy. Not only did he fake his own death, but he's also trying to legitimize a farm called "Bitcointalk Defensive Alliance"

[Fantomaz]

I like the idea of a defensive alliance because it reduce risk of getting tages by DT members deliberately.
A defensive alliance should be a stop sign to be tagged too deliberately.

[Excimer]

I like the idea of a defensive alliance because it reduce risk of getting tages by DT members deliberately.

This defe...ive alliance is a threatening for bitcointalk. Organized trust manipulation is prohibited on bitcointalk.

A defensive alliance

Okay, have it your way. Everyone who supports this fake alliance will be tagged.



This 1miau user has very changed since his  fake "death". It seems to me did he sell his account. And now makes such vandal topics

[AB de Royse777]

When you are seeing someone is bullied and you feel it's unjustified then build up a habit to speak against the bully instead of pretending you did not see and read anything. Don't be afraid of the bully by thinking the bully might bully you back.

PS: Welcome back.

[OgNasty]

When you are seeing someone is bullied and you feel it's unjustified then build up a habit to speak against the bully instead of pretending you did not see and read anything. Don't be afraid of the bully by thinking the bully might bully you back.

PS: Welcome back.

That sounds great and as a lifetime bully of bullies I have never hesitated to stand up to those who harass others.  Usually this results in fist fights, which I am totally fine with.  However, on this forum it leads to trolls grouping up with others to push lies about you, damage your reputation, or even filing frivolous lawsuits. 

It would be nice if more people on this site grew a backbone and stood up to abuse instead of trying to get the abusers on your side to do your dirty work, which is the state of the Default Trust Network currently.  I've never seen something go from trustworthy to corrupted faster...  Maybe OpenAI.

[Vod]

That sounds great and as a lifetime bully of bullies I have never hesitated to stand up to those who harass others.  

Will you apologize to the community for lying to them about offering me merit for years?   Don't punch me - but an apology to the people you've accused would be nice if you can grow a backbone.  .

[Excimer]

Founding members
1miau

where is icopress?  

After LoyceV and nutildah expressed their opinions on this fake alliance, icopress vanished from that list with a speed of light.  

[Vod]

After LoyceV and nutildah expressed their opinions on this fake alliance, icopress vanished from that list.  
what a cautious man! 

A smart man as well.   Putting newer users into a gang is stupid.

[KWH]

That sounds great and as a lifetime bully of bullies I have never hesitated to stand up to those who harass others.  Usually this results in fist fights, which I am totally fine with.  However, on this forum it leads to trolls grouping up with others to push lies about you, damage your reputation, or even filing frivolous lawsuits.  

It would be nice if more people on this site grew a backbone and stood up to abuse instead of trying to get the abusers on your side to do your dirty work, which is the state of the Default Trust Network currently.  I've never seen something go from trustworthy to corrupted faster...  Maybe OpenAI.

So, when is your grand self-immolation beginning?

[Excimer]

I imagine myself in Theymos's shoes. You're working hard, updating servers, patching bugs, organizing contests, coming up with fun events for April Fools' Day, distributing salaries and gifts, all to maintain stability at DT. And then, bam! "BITCOINTALK DEFENSIVE ALLIANCE". Instead of "Thank you for you service sir"

Admin's thoughts about 1miau at the moment of reading this topic:

[Vod]

Admin's thoughts about 1miau at the moment of reading this topic:

I doubt that.  1miau is not a bad person, they just had a bad idea that I hope will disappear quietly into the massive Grok spam this area has.  1miau hasn't insulted anyone or made false statements and I've posted many bad ideas myself over the years.  I still trust 1miau.

[Excimer]

I still trust 1miau.

When Phinnaeus Gage was died - his account was hacked/sold/compromised.  1miau was died at November 2025. Where is the guarantee that the account 1miau has not been hacked of sold?

1miau is not a bad person

Before November of 2025? Or after?

I still trust 1miau.

Lauda, ​​like a true samurai, left and kept his word. But how can you trust these clowns like 1miau? They die today and are resurrected tomorrow.

[Rating Place]

Creating an alliance against unjust negative feedback is not bad but it would be better to found an alliance that will protect any member of the forum instead of being specially designed for a group of people. However, my opinion is that creating an alliance to investigate unjust negative feedback that involves any member of the forum will be better than just protecting only its members. If this alliance is only centered at its members, a day will come when this whole thing will become dramatic when a member of the alliance receives a worthy negative tag. How do you intend to handle a member who receives a deserving negative tag? kick him out of the alliance

This is a great idea. The alliance would work as an oversight to DT abuse. If someone feels that have been treated unfairly, they could bring it to the alliance.

[Vod]

If someone feels that have been treated unfairly, they could bring it to the alliance.

And what would the alliance do about it?  The only method available is spamming the facts over and over until someone changes their mind.  And that rarely happens no matter how clearly you point out scams.  People do not have the same morals or values and a lot of people view lying to names on a screen as just a part of surviving.