Does bitcoin reward investors based on amount purchased or based on patience?

[SOKO-DEKE]

I have decided to bring this very topic here, because I overheard two people arguing about bitcoin reward system, one was saying the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio determines your profit, and the other person was emphasizing on patience as a reward factor. So I would love us here to make our various contributions, and make a glaring classification based on this. However, in my own opinion, i feel patience is the main thing that can give bitcoin investors their desired result.

Bitcoin is no longer at the stage where someone can invest a small amount of money, be patient enough, and make the kind of huge profit people made in the past. For example, let’s say Mr. A invested about $100k, while Mr. B invested only $100. Mr. A decided to hold for just one cycle, while Mr. B decided to be patient and hold for 15 years. I don’t think Mr. B can make the kind of profit Mr. A could make in four years, even after 15 years.So, investing a larger amount in Bitcoin can bring more profit if the person is patient enough. Patience can still lead someone to greater profit, but not necessarily with a very small investment amount. The point is that both factors are very important: invest a reasonable amount of money in Bitcoin and be patient enough, and the person will likely see success.However, the main reason some people, especially newbies, get it wrong is that they want to invest a very small amount in Bitcoin and expect to make thousands of dollars within a few years, or maybe even after 20 years. But I would say that, with the kind of small amounts some of them are investing, they may never see the kind of profit they are hoping for, even in the next 40 years, because Bitcoin will never be like the past again

[Myleschetty]

Bitcoin will reward you on both.

1. You have to keep buying Bitcoin by using DCA strategy, it takes a lot of commitment and determination, you can keep doing this for many years to come before you finally have some good amount of bitcoin, although it depends heavily on how much you are using to DCA.

2. Every thing about Bitcoin ask for patience, you need it when you are slowly investing in Bitcoin, you also need it as an holder, this investment plan takes a lot of years to be fruitful.

You will be reward based on how much you have accumulated so far, you will also be rewarded for holding on for years.

Although purchasing a large portion of Bitcoin will literally yield enormous rewards, we can see that Bitcoin primarily rewards investors based on patience (we can classify it as time of accumulation and conviction to hold), not just the quantity of Bitcoin purchased.

[GeorgeJohn]

Patient is the key word in bitcoin investment, without patience you will not be a successful bitcoin  holder, no matter how much you accumulate if you are not patience to hold on for a long term without selling part of your coins you will not get anything out of bitcoin investment because your situation will force you to temper your investment and remain a low or no coiner which will not be good.

Patient you're emphasizing on, is the reason why most of the experience investors of bitcoin likely invest to use their spare money to invest in bitcoin without using their main capital...

If you an investor want's to hold bitcoin in prolonged time, it will not use all what it have to invest in bitcoin...because if you use all you has to invest in bitcoin, you will tempted to make a withdrawal if you lacks funds with you...

But if you use a spare funds to accumulate a Bitcoin, it's obvious that you will hold it for long-term without remembering that you're holding bitcoin..So during investment, it's good to have a sustainable means so that you will not be tempted to withdraw from your investment when the time is not due....

[freedomgo]

If you can take some risk and stay patient all throughout your investment journey, that's where a bitcoin investor becomes more blessed and rewarded. Its a long process actually but with firm and positive mindset, discipline, long term goal and patience, everything you have will not go wasted.

Having a good amount of bitcoin through DCA and HODLing, and having a calm mind that focuses more on positivity and profitability, eventually having all of these will lead to great rewards and profits in the near future.

[Bryan jessy]

Both factors are of major importance, while patient is necessary the amount for investment is also significant because the higher the amount invested the more profit an investor is likely to make, be it long term or short term investment, at times most of this short term investors also makes cool profits regardless of how impatient they might seems to be, because some of this short term investors invest with huge amounts and sales the moment the price increases. For the best result or outcome, investment with reasonable amount along with patient and in long term investment gives the best profit.

[Miles2006]

This is common sense, without patience investors sell out their holdings while without owning a good portfolio how can anyone gain profit? Also consistency is involve when bitcoin investment is mentioned. Accumulating bitcoin regularly rewards investors but, both must work together in order to achieve the goal when it’s time to take profit.
Bitcoin rewards investors base on long term hold, holding for the long run is equally same as being patience with bitcoin price also the market price too sometimes might not seem favorable still investors just have to stay patience with the market except the person is a short term trader.

[Joy- maker]

I have decided to bring this very topic here, because I overheard two people arguing about bitcoin reward system, one was saying the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio determines your profit, and the other person was emphasizing on patience as a reward factor. So I would love us here to make our various contributions, and make a glaring classification based on this. However, in my own opinion, i feel patience is the main thing that can give bitcoin investors their desired result.

When it comes to bitcoin investment, the amount of bitcoin in your wallet may determines how massive your profit would be, because the larger the amount you are holding in in bitcoin, the massive your potential profit would be.

However, that does not mean that patient is not important in your bitcoin investment. Because patient is one of the key factors that determines whether you would become profitable or not. because the longer you hold bitcoin the higher your chance of making profit in the future. Therefore, the amount of bitcoin in your wallet and patient are very important.

[Popkon6]

Bitcoin does not majorly reward short term investors, and those who made it big today in the bitcoin market was as a result of patience. There are those who even bought fractions of bitcoin, but long term holding has yielded a significant result and profit.

Bitcoin investment has the risk of losing money in the short term, but there is a high probability of profiting money in the long term. So here the difference between the two things must be understood, Bitcoin investment is most acceptable only with long-term investment, if every person wants to profit through Bitcoin investment, he should keep long-term Bitcoin investment. Because the market is always going up and down, the current position is the best time to invest in the Bitcoin market for the long term.
Because in the past more time has been created, now less, but if I invest in Bitcoin for the long term, then this is the best time. In long-term Bitcoin investment, Bitcoin can be purchased from the Bitcoin market in any situation.

[Marvelockg]

I have decided to bring this very topic here, because I overheard two people arguing about bitcoin reward system, one was saying the amount of bitcoin in your portfolio determines your profit, and the other person was emphasizing on patience as a reward factor. So I would love us here to make our various contributions, and make a glaring classification based on this. However, in my own opinion, i feel patience is the main thing that can give bitcoin investors their desired result.

You can't rate patience above the real amount of bitcoin you have in your possession knowing that practically, your patience is useless if you don't have enough bitcoin in your possession.

Patience multiplied by the right quantity of bitcoin will yield a good return in the long run but patience multiplied by nothing will yield nothing and that's how important the amount of bitcoin you're accumulating is. Other factors like patience, emergency funds, the strategy you're using are all important but they are not enough when it comes to gaining from your bitcoin investment. Arranging things in an orderly manner ranging from the most important to the least important, the amount of bitcoin in your possession is what matters most...

[Free Market Capitalist]

When it comes to bitcoin investment, the amount of bitcoin in your wallet may determines how massive your profit would be, because the larger the amount you are holding in in bitcoin, the massive your potential profit would be.

However, that does not mean that patient is not important in your bitcoin investment. Because patient is one of the key factors that determines whether you would become profitable or not. because the longer you hold bitcoin the higher your chance of making profit in the future. Therefore, the amount of bitcoin in your wallet and patient are very important.

I think you've made it a little complicated; let me explain it another way. With Bitcoin, it's the same as with other assets that appreciate over the long term: it's compound interest that generates returns. The thing is, if you have little capital, you have to wait a long time for the effects of compound interest to become noticeable, whereas if you have a substantial lump sum that you can invest from the start (from an inheritance, for example), the effects of compound interest become apparent much sooner.

In other words, yes, both are important, but if you start with a large amount of capital, you need a lot less patience.

[Alpen]

Still comparing apples to oranges.  I dont think AI can solve the inflation problem, nor will AI provide sovereignty over your capital - Bitcoin will.
Regarding AI "siphoning" investments, thats nothing more than a natural shift in focus. Almost every investment eventually ends up chasing the latest and greatest hype train.  It does not mean that the prior trend is over and done with - same as when they said the Internet would kill software companies or mobile technology would kill the PC.  That never happened.  They just end up integrating.
 

How could the internet kill software developers when it literally runs on them? AI, on the other hand, is already thinning the ranks of coders. The internet’s real impact was killing traditional retail and fundamentally shifting consumer behavior.

Regarding Bitcoin: sovereignty over capital isn't provided by BTC itself, but by blockchain technology. There are many ways to implement it. PoW is vulnerable because it depends on state-controlled energy and infrastructure. PoS depends on IT monopolies. I personally prefer the Ripple (XRPL) model, which offers sovereignty not just over XRP, but over fiat, other cryptos, and even loyalty points.

You can host any technology on a blockchain, including AI. So, what will truly offer us more independence: a mechanism run by validators and ASICs, or nodes managed by AI? Or maybe AI will issue its own global stablecoin? I’d certainly stick around to see how that plays out.

[Nahl]

Bitcoin itself the reward of patience but more bitcoin means your rewards as the investor potentially will be increases because the profit won't effected much if we only have small amount of bitcoin to hold for long term that's why both are important and having a lot bitcoin don't mean suddently people purchase that with huge money because the people which have poor financial condition still have potention to gets more bitcoin to hold and the most popular is people did DCA strategy which for majority people who don't have a lot of money says this method works to make them having more bitcoin

[gracreavix]

This is common sense, without patience investors sell out their holdings while without owning a good portfolio how can anyone gain profit? Also consistency is involve when bitcoin investment is mentioned. Accumulating bitcoin regularly rewards investors but, both must work together in order to achieve the goal when it’s time to take profit.
Bitcoin rewards investors base on long term hold, holding for the long run is equally same as being patience with bitcoin price also the market price too sometimes might not seem favorable still investors just have to stay patience with the market except the person is a short term trader.

True, both go hand in hand. If it’s just patients alone without building a strong portfolio, it won’t really give much result, and having a good amount of Bitcoin without patience can still make someone panic sell too early. That’s both seems to be important.
Most people that benefited heavily from Bitcoin were not just lucky, they kept accumulating gradually and stayed patient in different market conditions even when the price looked discouraging. Bitcoin tend to reward people who can be consistent and hold with a long term mindset.

[Youngrebel]

Bitcoin itself the reward of patience but more bitcoin means your rewards as the investor potentially will be increases because the profit won't effected much if we only have small amount of bitcoin to hold for long term that's why both are important and having a lot bitcoin don't mean suddently people purchase that with huge money because the people which have poor financial condition still have potention to gets more bitcoin to hold and the most popular is people did DCA strategy which for majority people who don't have a lot of money says this method works to make them having more bitcoin

Patience is actually the most important thing when it comes to an investment like bitcoin, so many of us engage in bitcoin because we feel it is a platform that brings fast profit and it’s easy to trade and that’s why you see so many people today who don’t understand the system get upset and sell when market drops, only those who understand how the bitcoin platform works do see good result with time. I also agree with your point that having more bitcoin can increase potential profit but what actually matters is consistency because not all hand are equal and nobody can buy large amount at once.

[Stalker22]

How could the internet kill software developers when it literally runs on them?

Yeah. Thats why I said it never happened.   But many times over the past few decades, some pretty influential people have convinced a lot of folks that new technologies, including the Internet, would eventually make software developers obsolete.  For example, after the dot-com bubble burst and outsourcing really took off, many believed that software jobs would just disappear from the US and Europe, heading instead to cheaper overseas markets.

AI, on the other hand, is already thinning the ranks of coders. The internet’s real impact was killing traditional retail and fundamentally shifting consumer behavior.

Among other things, yes.

[batang_bitcoin]

Although purchasing a large portion of Bitcoin will literally yield enormous rewards, we can see that Bitcoin primarily rewards investors based on patience (we can classify it as time of accumulation and conviction to hold), not just the quantity of Bitcoin purchased.

It is both to be honest. The amount of bitcoin we purchased also the factor of how rewarding it is in the long run. So, with patience it is no doubt that someone will be rewarded but, it won't be so much if the amount being held is not a lot. That's why for me it is both that we have to apply and think of the factor of how rewarding it is when we invest and hold Bitcoin. Patience is required and the amount of bitcoins we bought shouldn't also be ignored because you'd see the early investors who invests a lot during that time got rewarded for having both.

[Rustam Meraj]

Patience is actually the most important thing when it comes to an investment like bitcoin, so many of us engage in bitcoin because we feel it is a platform that brings fast profit and it’s easy to trade and that’s why you see so many people today who don’t understand the system get upset and sell when market drops, only those who understand how the bitcoin platform works do see good result with time. I also agree with your point that having more bitcoin can increase potential profit but what actually matters is consistency because not all hand are equal and nobody can buy large amount at once.

Most of retail investors are always losing, because they think of bitcoin as casino and want to make money fast, while others are looking at it as test of conviction. Price varies from day to day, but basic hashrate and acceptance of network are still rising, and that is what long term owners monitor.
You do not need much of satoshis per week but that discipline will keep you grounded in event of 30% crash. Those who panic sell simply do not have cold storage mind set, they look into charts too frequently instead of considering limited supply of BTC. When it comes to investing, time in market will always beat timing market. Patient accumulators have already done hard work of accumulating when it is boring and quiet and by time the mass media starts talking about new all time highs, they already are in position.

[laijsica]

This is correct as the graph of profit depends on Bitcoin holdings. The idea that you can reach the level of over accumulation of Bitcoin through patience is also correct. To reach that decent level of over accumulation, you should accumulate Bitcoin regularly. You have emphasized patience. I agree with you a lot. To reach that appropriate level of Bitcoin accumulation, you should have a steady income stream because your discretionary income generation depends on the productivity of money and also regularly buying Bitcoin with it.

To take Bitcoin investment to the long term, you need to be patient, have discretionary income and be involved in disciplined fund management such as emergency funds and increasing the amount of Bitcoin fractional buying as time goes by. What I want to focus on is increasing the amount of stable income with patience and creating multiple sources of income.

[UchihaSarada]

This is correct as the graph of profit depends on Bitcoin holdings.

When you say about profit, consider firstly about ROI, not the $ in profit value. Because the ROI shows that investment is profitable or loss, while the $ profit value depends on input investment capital, that clearly are very different with different investors. Many investors can have same ROI but their $ profit values can be different, it's because they had different initial investment capitals.

The idea that you can reach the level of over accumulation of Bitcoin through patience is also correct. To reach that decent level of over accumulation, you should accumulate Bitcoin regularly. You have emphasized patience. I agree with you a lot. To reach that appropriate level of Bitcoin accumulation, you should have a steady income stream because your discretionary income generation depends on the productivity of money and also regularly buying Bitcoin with it.

Practically investment requires accumulation through many purchases and strong holding over time for good profit because Bitcoin does not soar 100% or higher after several days or weeks. It needs more time than that, even months or years, and accumulation requires a lot of time to do, so in other words it requires patience. Then holding bitcoin from accumulation process for a long time requires patience.

In my opinion, patience is important for both accumulation and holding, so it's truly important and decisive for investment practice and result.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Although purchasing a large portion of Bitcoin will literally yield enormous rewards, we can see that Bitcoin primarily rewards investors based on patience (we can classify it as time of accumulation and conviction to hold), not just the quantity of Bitcoin purchased.

It is both to be honest. The amount of bitcoin we purchased also the factor of how rewarding it is in the long run. So, with patience it is no doubt that someone will be rewarded but, it won't be so much if the amount being held is not a lot. That's why for me it is both that we have to apply and think of the factor of how rewarding it is when we invest and hold Bitcoin. Patience is required and the amount of bitcoins we bought shouldn't also be ignored because you'd see the early investors who invests a lot during that time got rewarded for having both.

Yes, both factors are important, and anyone who want to maximize profits need to combine both.

Investment returns depend on many factors, such as capital, entry price, and holding period...it does not depend on or is determined by a single factor. Therefore, we do not need to compare or choose, instead, we should combine those factors if we want to make a large profit.

Focus on accumulating bitcoin, as much as possible, and holding it for as long as possible. Only then can we expect to reap good profits.