Trump met with Xi Jinping

[Cheema02]

China is growing very faster as compare to the US. And we also know that the US is now very much dependent on China in many sectors of production. As the majority of big-name, famous brands of the US are being manufactured in China, and their industries are also in China. So it would not be wrong to say that China can be considered the backbone of the US. What do you say? The rest of your other point is also valid here, as I also believe that patience is the key to overcoming many problems.

And do you know that China buys its big reserves of oil from Iran? Even Iran is not allowed to sell its oil to any country. And yes, China supplies its weapons to Iran through proxy countries. And according to my best knowledge, China uses the Caspian Sea to import and export anything to and from Iran. The Caspian Sea is the largest lake in the world that connects many countries, and through this path, China easily does its work with Iran.

China becomes the most powerful country in the world even American companies rely on Chinese manufacturing because its cost is very friendly. And its not totally right to say that USA completely depends on China because in reality both countries are dependent on each other by technology and trade. As USA leads due to advance technology and innovation while China is famous for large scale manufacturing. China has friendly relations with Iran and both countries trade instead of sanctions because China's oil requirement is fulfill by Iran. China required an huge amount of oil to run industries at large scale. So both countries trade in local currencies instead of US dollar. For transportation Caspian sea have very important route so smart diplomacy and patience is most important to maintain the global political challenges.

[Cookdata]

Yes, you are right here, China is growing very faster as compare to the US. And we also know that the US is now very much dependent on China in many sectors of production. As the majority of big-name, famous brands of the US are being manufactured in China, and their industries are also in China. So it would not be wrong to say that China can be considered the backbone of the US. What do you say? The rest of your other point is also valid here, as I also believe that patience is the key to overcoming many problems.

The China export more product to US and it benefits the China more than it benefit the US. This is why anytime the US felt threaten by some actions of China, they raised the Tarrif just to get China to cooperate because they know the China need US market than US need China market. If the US decided not to trade With China, a lot will affect the China than it will affect the US because there alternative market for US but of course they wouldn't have it cheaper like they do in China.

And do you know that China buys its big reserves of oil from Iran? Even Iran is not allowed to sell its oil to any country. And yes, China supplies its weapons to Iran through proxy countries. And according to my best knowledge, China uses the Caspian Sea to import and export anything to and from Iran. The Caspian Sea is the largest lake in the world that connects many countries, and through this path, China easily does its work with Iran.

They buy from Iran but payment are settled in dollars, this is what Iran want to break. They want to continue to sell to China purposely to get back at US, they want the oil trade be settled in Yuan so US will feel threaten by this action. A replacement of petrodollar will weaken the purchasing power US currency and I'm sure the China don't want to go down that route. As much as I don't like US and their ways of business, it will affect China if they move that way.

[Jubilee58]

I am sure we have all seen the news of the meeting, what everyone would be looking forward to are the implications and results of this high stake meeting between Washington and Beijing.

A couple of issues would be brought up in this meeting, but i think the most crucial of all would be their trade relationship. These are the two largest economies in the world, so collaboration would benefit them both, rather than a trade/tariff war.

China is the biggest customer of Iranian oil, so definitely the Iran v U.S. war would also be discussed as the implications concern China too, though i doubt Iran would reopen the Strait until the terms of resolution is "fair" to them.

I think you are very correct, the trade relationship between China, and US is very crutial, and could be their topmost discussion. Furthermore, because of the relationship between China, and Iran, China would likely give support to the Iranian government since they are also having strong trade relationship as a result of oil or petroleum products.
Trump visit to China is very necessary, because they could discuss on how to improve the US economy. Many countries are being affected as a result of this trade war going on between US, and Iran. If this matter will be part of their discussion, it will be a welcomed development.

[ruykeri]

Trump, Putin, everyone is moving towards China. In fact, looking at their position, it is not clear who has a good or bad relationship with them. However, in the world, China is now economically and technologically advancing much more. Most of the world's innovative technologies are also being developed in their country. They do not need the help of America or other countries for anything. This has made them a more powerful country. Maybe in the future, China will be one of the powerful countries in the world in all aspects, where America wants to control the whole world and America's friendly countries follow their word.  In the future, this will not happens  . Maybe there will be some change we can see the world powerful country .

[BitBrainers]

The US finds itself in a position where it needs the assistance of China. Top US officials have publicly asked for US assistance in the opening of the Strait of Hormuz. The US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and the Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent have appealed to China to use its influence on Iran to open that important passage. China was more prepared for this because they have stockpiled enough oil, diversified supply chains, and increased domestic production.

From the look of things, Trump needs Xi Jinping more than the latter needs him.

The power dynamic of this visit was visible before a single word was spoken. Trump flew to Beijing with 20 CEOs. Xi sent his vice president to the airport.

One side needed the meeting more than the other. The seating arrangements confirmed it.

[DanWalker]

The power dynamic of this visit was visible before a single word was spoken. Trump flew to Beijing with 20 CEOs. Xi sent his vice president to the airport.

One side needed the meeting more than the other. The seating arrangements confirmed it.

In most important diplomatic visits, heads of state usually do not personally go to the airport to receive guests. Instead, this task is typically handled by lower ranking official. Similarly, they sent Foreign Minister Wang Yi to welcome Putin two day earlier.

However, they still show more respect for Putin than for Trump. In Chinese politics, Wang Yi is in charge of all of China's foreign affairs and holds greater political power than Han Zheng. And as you said, the ceremonies and receptions afterward showed that they did not hold Trump in particularly high regard

[snowpega]

The China export more product to US and it benefits the China more than it benefit the US.

Are you sure? Both need each other, but as I said in recent times, what I have analyzed US needs more china then china needs the US. China has a big market that is cheap, and it doesn't solely trade with the US; many other international countries also trade with China on a very large scale. But here we are talking about the US and China, so let's talk starting within this domain. In the recent trade war, when the US implemented 125% tarrif on China, then according to some reports, chineses industuries announce to threaten by declaring the US item costs that are manufactured in China. iPhone costs only a few dollars to the company, but it sells thousands on its launch date. At the same time, China also threatened to declare some other big brands' manufacturing costs that sell in the 10k-30k range in the US. So, the US made a lot of revenue in this way, depending on China. It is not like China doesn't have any benefit in all that; indeed china also has a big benefit in it, but at this time, the US seems to be more dependent on China in my point of view.

They buy from Iran but payment are settled in dollars, this is what Iran want to break. They want to continue to sell to China purposely to get back at US, they want the oil trade be settled in Yuan so US will feel threaten by this action. A replacement of petrodollar will weaken the purchasing power US currency and I'm sure the China don't want to go down that route. As much as I don't like US and their ways of business, it will affect China if they move that way.

Yes, I agree with you here. And at this time, Iran is finding some ways to trade its oil/goods in some alternative currency, and as you said, in recent reports, they are considering the use of the Yuan and Bitcoin for international trade so that they can reduce the dominance of the US dollar in the international market. Mark my word, I believe that the US dollar will be worth nothing in the coming time due to many factors. What do you think about it?

[bhadz]

After Trump visited Xi Jinping, what happened is our president(Philippines) announced that our country might be part of the war if ever US and China fights for Taiwan. I don't understand these world leaders of what they're trying to do if it's just all about businesses. I think it makes sense since China has banned Nvidia chips products. And that's because they might just rely on themselves and as well as Taiwan for its semi conductor products. While for these countries the meeting has been beneficial, I'm not sure what made our president tell that when we all thought that it's a good business meeting after all.

[logfiles]

After Trump visited Xi Jinping, what happened is our president(Philippines) announced that our country might be part of the war if ever US and China fights for Taiwan. I don't understand these world leaders of what they're trying to do if it's just all about businesses. I think it makes sense since China has banned Nvidia chips products. And that's because they might just rely on themselves and as well as Taiwan for its semi conductor products. While for these countries the meeting has been beneficial, I'm not sure what made our president tell that when we all thought that it's a good business meeting after all.

Whether good or bad. Trump and his team were just trying to slow down the inevitable. The US is losing grip in the Global geopolitics real quick and for a second they thought they would persuade China to follow the usual narrative, but I know that is not happening. China now feels like they are almost completely independent of the US, and it's influence.

[bhadz]

After Trump visited Xi Jinping, what happened is our president(Philippines) announced that our country might be part of the war if ever US and China fights for Taiwan. I don't understand these world leaders of what they're trying to do if it's just all about businesses. I think it makes sense since China has banned Nvidia chips products. And that's because they might just rely on themselves and as well as Taiwan for its semi conductor products. While for these countries the meeting has been beneficial, I'm not sure what made our president tell that when we all thought that it's a good business meeting after all.

Whether good or bad. Trump and his team were just trying to slow down the inevitable. The US is losing grip in the Global geopolitics real quick and for a second they thought they would persuade China to follow the usual narrative, but I know that is not happening. China now feels like they are almost completely independent of the US, and it's influence.

That's straight and real, they truly are trying to slow down things for China but that didn't do of what they're trying to make. I guess that US has seen this coming that China and Russia is going to do the Siberia pipeline[1]. What these meetings are all about the economic ties and whatever resources that they can agree with. And not just feeling China's independence, they've got the BRICS too.

[1] What is the Power of Siberia 2 pipeline that Russia, China are planning?

[BitBrainers]

After Trump visited Xi Jinping, what happened is our president(Philippines) announced that our country might be part of the war if ever US and China fights for Taiwan. I don't understand these world leaders of what they're trying to do if it's just all about businesses. I think it makes sense since China has banned Nvidia chips products. And that's because they might just rely on themselves and as well as Taiwan for its semi conductor products. While for these countries the meeting has been beneficial, I'm not sure what made our president tell that when we all thought that it's a good business meeting after all.

Whether good or bad. Trump and his team were just trying to slow down the inevitable. The US is losing grip in the Global geopolitics real quick and for a second they thought they would persuade China to follow the usual narrative, but I know that is not happening. China now feels like they are almost completely independent of the US, and it's influence.

China's position going into this meeting was structurally stronger. BRICS, the Siberia pipeline, diversified trade partners, domestic chip development, the US leverage that existed five years ago has been steadily eroded. Trump arrived needing a deal. Xi received him accordingly.
The Bitcoin angle worth watching: every time dollar dominance takes a visible hit like this, the case for a neutral reserve asset gets louder. Iran is already pricing oil in yuan and Bitcoin. That is not a coincidence.

[AgriTrack]

Frankly I'm very delighted about the meeting because a lot of things have been in disarray globally as a result of the actions of Donald Trump, so it makes sense to sit with a fellow superpower to discuss ways forward for a global lasting peace and prosperity. Trump's irrational tariffs and the strait of Hormuz saga that is affecting global oil supply as a result of US Iran war, are key areas that these powerful individuals have to talk about.

With China's strong ties with Iran, I'm sure that their mediation will help to ease the tentions around the strait of Hormuz so I must commend Trump, on this one for visiting the Chinese leader to make way for a lasting peace. Hopefully in due time we will know if the Trump, visit will yield any fruit in the areas that some of us are speculating.

It is power of China in the world that a person who claimed about him a super power have to visited the China for negotiation. But what were the original agenda of their meeting is still secret. Apparently it seemed that it would be for Strait of Hormuz, or about neuclear power of Iran. But some reports claimed that internally they went for their own projects. Trump announced that their aim is to clear the Iran from nuclear weapons and that's meeting is important in this regard. However in the long run we came to know the truth. China presently a close friend of Iran, or not in the favour of US policies. I don't think China will go against Iran. Because it heavily depends upon the Iran's oil. Or recently China face no problem even during war, because Iran allowed smooth passing of China's ship from Strait of Hormuz

[STT]

This should be in the gambling section, they are both poker face players and who knows the exact narrative ongoing between them and their administrations on multiple layers of government and commerce.   Its in neither nations interests to be in conflict but obviously neither is wanting to trust the other too much or appear to be distrustful and deny beneficial trade from such a large economy.

   I thought much more would be said on the oil situation, however China is not yet pressed into action as it has some of the largest oil reserves in the world to bide its time with.  They clearly support Iran as their largest supplier and ally in the region, much like Russia would do the same.  Trump attacking their ally should provoke more of a response yet they hold their tongue it seems hence I cant clear see their trajectory in this conflict and I dont think China wants to be seen in its actions either.

[Jaweria parveen]

It is power of China in the world that a person who claimed about him a super power have to visited the China for negotiation. But what were the original agenda of their meeting is still secret. Apparently it seemed that it would be for Strait of Hormuz, or about neuclear power of Iran. But some reports claimed that internally they went for their own projects. Trump announced that their aim is to clear the Iran from nuclear weapons and that's meeting is important in this regard. However in the long run we came to know the truth. China presently a close friend of Iran, or not in the favour of US policies. I don't think China will go against Iran. Because it heavily depends upon the Iran's oil. Or recently China face no problem even during war, because Iran allowed smooth passing of China's ship from Strait of Hormuz

It is not important that if a person is in power, he is going to another country, but rather how much respect he has after going there is more important and all this is in front of us how China treated Trump and his people. This was not the case before he left, due to which people were thinking that he had gone for his own benefit and his country, but China did not make any kind of statement in his favor, so Trump is still very worried from there. Trump's visit to China could not be of any benefit to him, but at the same time Putin went to China, in which there were big discussions and many things were finalized between them. Due to this, Trump's visit after 9 years could not create any special power or benefits for him.

[Alonso_]

I believe that the meeting would be for the benefit of both countries and how to broker some agreements on trades tariffs which I think would be widely discussed, Trump knows what he is doing and they have also be discussed about the Iran war which I think that would be a very important discussion.

Trump have been know for his wide range of knowledge and having a good massive knowledge about negotiations, well it’s just a matter of helping both countries in terms of their business model and building infrastructures in the countries most especially in the United States, they have a deal that China would building manufacturing facilities in the United States.

[BALIK]

I believe that the meeting would be for the benefit of both countries and how to broker some agreements on trades tariffs which I think would be widely discussed, Trump knows what he is doing and they have also be discussed about the Iran war which I think that would be a very important discussion.

Trump have been know for his wide range of knowledge and having a good massive knowledge about negotiations, well it’s just a matter of helping both countries in terms of their business model and building infrastructures in the countries most especially in the United States, they have a deal that China would building manufacturing facilities in the United States.

Do you not find it somewhat ridiculous?

Trump started the trade war. But it was he who had to make concessions before personally leading a delegation of billionaires to China to seek a deal.
This meeting brought almost no significant achievement or benefit to the US aside from a few minor trade agreements. Trump was clearly outmatched by Xi, and China is showing that it is the side holding the stronger position

By the way, I could not find any information indicating that Trump agreed to allow China to build manufacturing plants in the US. Because, in reality, China does not need that.

[Coyster]

Trump attacking their ally should provoke more of a response yet they hold their tongue it seems hence I cant clear see their trajectory in this conflict and I dont think China wants to be seen in its actions either.

They are more of spectators in this conflict. I believe their stand is simple and would go along this lines: "it's not our war, so we're not getting involved". China doesn't have to do anything, they have enough oil reserves, so they would rather take a back seat and watch how things unfold. I am not sure if Trumps visit to China yielded anything, China isn't even involved in the diplomatic talks between the two nations to try and end this; maybe they'd rather see Trump sweat than intervene.

[BitBrainers]

Trump started the trade war. But it was he who had to make concessions before personally leading a delegation of billionaires to China to seek a deal.
This meeting brought almost no significant achievement or benefit to the US aside from a few minor trade agreements. Trump was clearly outmatched by Xi, and China is showing that it is the side holding the stronger position.

Trump started the trade war with maximum leverage and flew to Beijing to ask for a deal. That sequencing tells you everything about where the balance of power sits right now. Xi didn't need to offer much, and from what came out of the meeting, he didn't.

[Fortify]

The U.S. President reportedly just met with Xi Jinping. A grand welcome ceremony was held in Beijing in honor of Donald Trump. And Trump seemed very pleased with the reception he received. But this meeting is quite contradictory given the frequent disputes between the leaders of these two superpowers. Some media news have linked the meeting to the trade war between the two countries. But others have linked it to the U.S. conflict with Iran. The White House stated that the meeting was to discuss ways to enhance economic cooperation. I personally believe that Trump has set his ego aside by attempting to negotiate peacefully in order to improve the U.S. economy. And it seems that the U.S. conflict with Iran has had a significant impact, where it forcing Trump to seek China’s assistance in addressing the blockage of the Strait of Hormuz given that Beijing has ties with Tehran so far. What are your thoughts?

It's funny how China were taking pops at him all throughout, putting him in the small chair and greeting him off the plane with a whole cast of children. There were even economic jabs taking place too, like an announcement that they were banning Nvidia gaming chips from entering China in order to grow manufacturers at home. It's not a surprise really when he has taken aim and done major damage to the Chinese economy, yet nobody really benefited from the whole process - although I can imagine Trump made bank for his own family throughout the process. It was a vanity trip and Xi Jinping knew it was a way to stroke his ego, even if they did take subtle shots during the process.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Trump attacking their ally should provoke more of a response yet they hold their tongue it seems hence I cant clear see their trajectory in this conflict and I dont think China wants to be seen in its actions either.

Iran and China are not allies. They have cooperated and become strategic partners after signing a 25 year agreement in 2021. They are not a full fledged ally like NATO is with the United States

Although China did not react strongly or publicly express support for Iran. But as with many previous rumor, the United States has repeatedly warned China to stop supporting Iran. This shows that China has supported Iran, but in its own way.

As we all know, in stark contrast to the United States, China is very secretive about what it does.

Another thing is, I think with Iran's military capabilities, they are perfectly capable of confronting the United States and Israel. They do not even need support from Russia and China