How do people enjoy MMA?

[Findingnemo]

I believe there are rules and limits to this sport; it appears brutal as we watch it, but as long as there is a referee and rules for the game, there are limits to what they could do. It's still a sport.

I don't like it in particular, as I can't spend my money to pay for subscriptions where it's being shown, nor can I place any bet on it, but that does not mean others don't like and enjoy it.

To be honest, every sport is kind of brutal, maybe we don't see blood and in certain sports we don't even notice the player because the game lasts for like 10 seconds such as 100m race but how many years of intense training they did to reach that space, which is also kind of a cruelty right? SInce we are pushing the body to it's limits and we see it as normal then giving or receiving pushes also normal and high octance situation.

[Onyeeze]

I believe there are rules and limits to this sport; it appears brutal as we watch it, but as long as there is a referee and rules for the game, there are limits to what they could do. It's still a sport.

I don't like it in particular, as I can't spend my money to pay for subscriptions where it's being shown, nor can I place any bet on it, but that does not mean others don't like and enjoy it.

one thing is that gambling there are some certain thing that you may like on the other people may not like it, and what we dislike by the something that will give people winning or what other people dislike might to be a something that will give you your own so that is how it operate in gambling gambling is not certain at the nobody is being guaranteed of winning, so that is why we keep on trying our luck and also follow a different strategies that we like individually to benefit from gambling

[rbynxx]

Naturally, I don't like combat sports. Boxing is the only combat sport I try to enjoy because it's more regulated, and it's just fists. But whenever I watch videos of MMA fights, I always ask myself how something like that is legal. It is just too bloody to be legal.
If the cops pulled up to 2 men on the streets fighting that way, they would both be taken to the police station, but put them in a cage, with some money, promoting, sponsors, and it's a sport?

I think you just have some trauma on blood, but that's just my assumption. Well, fighters has consent over their bodies and do you think boxing doesn't have blood involved in it? I remember Pacquiao in my childhood days fighting with Marquez or Morales who are bloody in that ring yet that was perfectly legal. MMA uses fists too and I don't think they're using some armory in there, it's not a Roman leisure thing of the past.

[Shinpako09]

Every person has a different perspective, way of viewing things, opinions, etc. Although it’s really brutal and bloody, I expected it, so maybe that’s why I still enjoy it. Also, I grew up in a province where, during my younger days, getting into brawls or watching people fight was nothing new. So, I view what happens in MMA as something normal. Fighters and spectators know the risks as well, yet they still do and watch it. Sometimes, it’s not just about money, there’s passion and pride in it too.

[Makus]

The violence in this game is way too much that's the reason why a lot of people don't really enjoy watching it. But just like every other sport there are people that are actually going to like it but the problem with MMA is how they hit each other not minding if kids are watching the game. This is one difference between this game and WWE because they care about what the as audience thinks and how it affects them.  At the end of the day people enjoy what they enjoy, you cannot control how everyone would perceive a certain thing.

[tread93]

I also find it hard to enjoy watching but hey everyone loves a fight and it can certainly be entertaining.  Craziest one i saw though was when Connor McGregor broke his leg and Joe Rogan was there commentating on the floor of the ring and connor was there ya know fucking broken legged beaten down and still talking shit about the other guys girl lmao. I mean that takes dedication to the craft right there. Got his ass whooped ans still didnt back down haha now that was entertainment 🤣

[Alpha Marine]

It's funny how a lot of the people here were against cockfighting in that thread. You questioned why people would be so cruel to animals. If it didn't make sense for two animals to be pitched against each other to fight themselves and then gamble on it, how is it okay for two human beings to be thrown into a cage to fight themselves? I know you'll say "there are rules", but that doesn't change the fact. They still punch, elbow, kick, knee, choke each other, and do many other things that they are allowed to do. It doesn't make sense. And don't tell me consent. People would consent to fight to the death if the money was worth it. 

These kinds of "sports" will be stopped in the future, but probably not within your or my life.

I doubt it would be stopped in the future because it is growing. There is too much money, sponsorship and fans for it to be stopped. Besides, the people who make the most money from it would simply lobby their way into making sure it continues. Best case scenario, they would include more rules and make it less brutal, which I doubt they would do because doing that would make them lose fans.
The only thing I know is that it won't be included in the Olympics. They would be crazy to include it in the Olympics because it should not be considered a sport.

It is still a sport, much like boxing, that we watch and enjoy. MMA may look more brutal, but the monitoring procedures for athletes and referees are also enhanced. It is not the same as other martial arts. Besides, it is not street fighting; athletes also have to have martial arts basics that are indeed allowed. There are punches and kicks that are allowed and not allowed to be performed.

These are the excuses everybody keeps giving. Of course, there would be rules, more rules than boxing. If there were no rules, then how would it be different from the Colosseum? All those rules don't stop it from being brutal. The point is, two people fighting shouldn't be a sport.

To be honest, every sport is kind of brutal, maybe we don't see blood and in certain sports we don't even notice the player because the game lasts for like 10 seconds such as 100m race but how many years of intense training they did to reach that space, which is also kind of a cruelty right? SInce we are pushing the body to it's limits and we see it as normal then giving or receiving pushes also normal and high octance situation.

No, this is very different. Athletes work extremely hard, and they play even harder, but they don't train to be punched in the face. There is a reason why, when such things happen in other sports, they are called "accidents" or "fouls". A footballer can push himself so hard and have a heart attack on the pitch, a few even die, but those are accidents. The goal of training hard is to be better, not be strong enough to knock you ropen out cold.

You noticed that when two individual fight on the streets, people always gather around just to watch them exchange blow physically at each other while using all their surviving skills.

I can even make an argument that fights on the street are not as brutal as it is in UFC. The street guys are just normal people who aren't professionals, so they don't really know how to knock out people. Plus, when the fights get too serious or brutal, people rush in to separate them. In UFC, it's either you get knocked out, tap out or see out all 3 or 5 rounds, which is 5 minutes each round.

[junder]

To be honest, i personally recognize the brutality of MMA, they tear each other apart as if they were sworn enemies and it’s not uncommon to see their faces covered in blood. But we must realize that many people love this sport and as long as there’s a large following, it will continue to thrive. Imagine if everyone disliked MMA and kept criticizing it, we might not see it anymore. It’s precisely because so many people enjoy it that it keeps growing and getting even bigger.

The brutality of MMA is very real whenever I watch it, I get swept up in the atmosphere which makes me furious. Driven by the desire to win, fighters will resort to brutal tactics to take down their opponents. This is one of the sports that many people are passionate about, along with boxing.

I sometimes get bored watching boxing, whereas watching MMA really gets me into the action. MMA and boxing will continue to attract a large following even though they involve violence they can still thrive just as you said.

[Woodie]

Naturally, I don't like combat sports. Boxing is the only combat sport I try to enjoy because it's more regulated, and it's just fists. But whenever I watch videos of MMA fights, I always ask myself how something like that is legal. It is just too bloody to be legal.

Honestly I was never a fan of this sport, but after watching a match of this fight with all these kind of acrobatic fighting style and he won **and no bloodshed happened in this particular game** I kind of became a fan from that moment.

Btw, thought all MMA fans have this dislike of the sport not until the watch one whole fight and then you get hooked..

If the cops pulled up to 2 men on the streets fighting that way, they would both be taken to the police station, but put them in a cage, with some money, promoting, sponsors, and it's a sport?

Lol, bro putting a valid argument across..

So how exactly does this happen with making beating someone up legal..damn some sports..

[terrific]

It's funny because these days, MMA is even becoming more popular than boxing.

Not that funny at all because for each sport, there's the community that supports it and that's built up by the fans of it.
There's no need to compare the two combat sports because even I, I like boxing more but respect to MMA.
It had built a new community, new talents, a lot of money for its own industry which is why it's also being supported and loved by its fans.

[Satofan44]

It's funny how a lot of the people here were against cockfighting in that thread. You questioned why people would be so cruel to animals. If it didn't make sense for two animals to be pitched against each other to fight themselves and then gamble on it, how is it okay for two human beings to be thrown into a cage to fight themselves? I know you'll say "there are rules", but that doesn't change the fact. They still punch, elbow, kick, knee, choke each other, and do many other things that they are allowed to do. It doesn't make sense. And don't tell me consent. People would consent to fight to the death if the money was worth it.  

Exactly, that was also very savage. Well there were also cases of using various kinds of animals, but most of it was banned. The difference between animals and humans does exist, because nobody is forcing the human to do this -- he is doing it willingly, but neither does that consent (which you mention here) justify it.

These kinds of "sports" will be stopped in the future, but probably not within your or my life.

I doubt it would be stopped in the future because it is growing. There is too much money, sponsorship and fans for it to be stopped. Besides, the people who make the most money from it would simply lobby their way into making sure it continues. Best case scenario, they would include more rules and make it less brutal, which I doubt they would do because doing that would make them lose fans.
The only thing I know is that it won't be included in the Olympics. They would be crazy to include it in the Olympics because it should not be considered a sport.

Of course it will be stopped, it is a savage thing for cavemen. There is nothing more to it, it is the most primal behavior that we have. You are missing the point of my post which is not about any kind of timeline of stopping, many of behaviors that were "normal" were stopped as the collective consciousness grew. In some places it is still acceptable to beat up your wife and keep her basically imprisoned at home or stone people to death, but as you see in most places we have gotten away from that savage shit. Similarly with eating of certain animal species that are now pets in most countries and so forth. Savage behavior takes time to get rid of, especially one that is so close to many people. What do you think in terms of percentages how many people are violent or would accept a violent solution in many situations? Half? More? That is why you can't get away from these things so fast. So here is how it would look like:

1. Fewer violent people or people accepting violent solutions due to increased education and development of the average human (most are quite primal right now).
2. With fewer violent people, fewer would watch this kind of savage sports leading to less money.
3. Less money will lead to less advertising, which will boost the decrease in popularity initiating a cycle.
4. Time passes while this is looping.
5. More people advocate against banning violent and savage sports, and eventually it will be a thing of the past.

The reason for which it has been growing has also to do with accessibility. You realize that 10-20 years ago hundreds of millions of people more were not able to access this kind of content from the west or the international scale on a regular basis (or any basis)? I would even say more than a billion or several billion, but to be accurate I would have to check exactly how many years back you need to go for this to be true.

Anyway the process towards abolishment can be shifted, delayed depending also on global events. If we do very violent things globally such as start a WW3, then the timeline will shift into the future of course.

[o48o]

Of course it will be stopped, it is a savage thing for cavemen. There is nothing more to it, it is the most primal behavior that we have. You are missing the point of my post which is not about any kind of timeline of stopping, many of behaviors that were "normal" were stopped as the collective consciousness grew. In some places it is still acceptable to beat up your wife and keep her basically imprisoned at home or stone people to death, but as you see in most places we have gotten away from that savage shit. Similarly with eating of certain animal species that are now pets in most countries and so forth. Savage behavior takes time to get rid of, especially one that is so close to many people. What do you think in terms of percentages how many people are violent or would accept a violent solution in many situations? Half? More? That is why you can't get away from these things so fast. So here is how it would look like:

1. Fewer violent people or people accepting violent solutions due to increased education and development of the average human (most are quite primal right now).
2. With fewer violent people, fewer would watch this kind of savage sports leading to less money.
3. Less money will lead to less advertising, which will boost the decrease in popularity initiating a cycle.
4. Time passes while this is looping.
5. More people advocate against banning violent and savage sports, and eventually it will be a thing of the past.

The reason for which it has been growing has also to do with accessibility. You realize that 10-20 years ago hundreds of millions of people more were not able to access this kind of content from the west or the international scale on a regular basis (or any basis)? I would even say more than a billion or several billion, but to be accurate I would have to check exactly how many years back you need to go for this to be true.

Anyway the process towards abolishment can be shifted, delayed depending also on global events. If we do very violent things globally such as start a WW3, then the timeline will shift into the future of course.

You are missing the most essential point. It's about consent. So maybe think before comparing it to abuse.

If fighters wouldn't consent to it, then it would be just savage violence. Now it's about measuring defense and offense skills of martial artists. How else could you measure their skills against each other?

Also, we have sports that have actual problems, like dog fighting, bullfighting and all sorts of animal fighting that are actual savage behavior. Because in those, animals can't give their consent. They have no option, but humans have a choice.