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May 31, 2026, 02:05:44 PM
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You are using the richest men in the world to just make your conclusion but which is not right. There are people that are working under them that are very rich.

I have seen some oil companies that their top workers like the manager of a bank, oil companies or tech companies that are very rich.

Some people first work under someone also before establishing his own business.

There are also people that have their own business but they are not rich. I understand what you want to say, that people should be independent which is right, but not everyone can be.

Exactly. I agree with you. Meta owned by Mark Zuckerberg paid someone $15 billion dollars to come work for him.

Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?

If Mark can do that, are you saying there are no rich employees? There are others not up to the employees category that are even paid well. Get your facts right.
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May 31, 2026, 02:26:16 PM
 #122

You are using the richest men in the world to just make your conclusion but which is not right. There are people that are working under them that are very rich.

I have seen some oil companies that their top workers like the manager of a bank, oil companies or tech companies that are very rich.

Some people first work under someone also before establishing his own business.

There are also people that have their own business but they are not rich. I understand what you want to say, that people should be independent which is right, but not everyone can be.

Exactly. I agree with you. Meta owned by Mark Zuckerberg paid someone $15 billion dollars to come work for him.

Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?

If Mark can do that, are you saying there are no rich employees? There are others not up to the employees category that are even paid well. Get your facts right.

Are you referring to the deal where Mark spent $15 billion to hire Alexandr Wang?
On top of that, according to my research, he also spent $1.5B to hire Andrew Tulloch to help Meta close the AI ​​gap with its competitors.

Indeed, it would be narrow minded and shortsighted to think that being an employee means you cant be wealthy or earn a high income.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-reportedly-drops-1-203104111.html?guccounter=1
https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/facebook/mark-zuckerberg-hires-alexandr-wang-meta-222444-20250617

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May 31, 2026, 04:21:13 PM
 #123

People get rich by investing, and running their own business, and not becoming an employee.
I think we are all thinking that there's no way for an employee to get rich. There's the career ladder and research about those CEOs, that came from the entry positions and they climbed up to the ladder and became one of the highest paid employees. Let's not all look into employees cannot be rich, there are ways but it takes a genius to reach to that point although the odds are pretty low but there were those who made it.

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May 31, 2026, 06:12:30 PM
 #124

Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?

Most reasons why it is very rare to see an employee gather wealth to the point that they become widely recognized in their community or country are that employers often do not pay the kind of money that would make such recognition possible. Another reason is that having only one source of income will hardly make someone that rich, recognized, and able to remain recognized for a long time.That is why most wealthy business people who are recognized are not getting their money from only one source. Those who rely on a single source of income often find it difficult to maintain their wealthy status. However, if they own businesses and have multiple investments, they can continue generating income from different channels.

Therefore, it is not easy for someone who works for another person to accumulate wealth at the same level as those who own businesses. It is very possible that a company owner or even the government may not pay workers up to 50% of the profit generated from their work. As a result, for someone to become wealthy and well recognized, they usually need to develop different sources of income that can continuously generate money.

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May 31, 2026, 07:21:03 PM
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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
You have already answered the question by yourself, an employee who is working under someone and is from a poor family will need to work very hard improve and become wealthy. There is never an employee that becomes wealthy why they are still an employee except they win lottery while working, or they inherited property from their parents while still an employee and they quit the job and go back to inherit their parents wealth. But hardly you become successful working for someone. Because if you even do there will be a question.
It can be difficult to become rich from a salary-based job, especially if one is from a poor family. The salary is fixed in the job, that is, we do not get more than a fixed salary. However, just because we are working under someone does not make it difficult for us to be successful. The path to success or getting hired is not the same for everyone. A person from a poor family increases his skills and experience through his job.

Later, he can start something on his own initiative with his job experience. For many, the job acts as the first step to success and skill. And by using the skill, they gain financial stability through regular savings, investments and long-term planning. Not everyone's skills are the same and family responsibilities and capabilities are not the same. The most important thing in life is continuous improvement, whether it is a job or a business. Many people start with a job and later reach the scale of a big business, while there are many businessmen who fail and are working.

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May 31, 2026, 08:16:18 PM
 #126

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Are you referring to the deal where Mark spent $15 billion to hire Alexandr Wang?
On top of that, according to my research, he also spent $1.5B to hire Andrew Tulloch to help Meta close the AI ​​gap with its competitors.

Indeed, it would be narrow minded and shortsighted to think that being an employee means you cant be wealthy or earn a high income.


https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mark-zuckerberg-reportedly-drops-1-203104111.html?guccounter=1
https://www.uniladtech.com/social-media/facebook/mark-zuckerberg-hires-alexandr-wang-meta-222444-20250617

One can make millions or even billions in some exceptional cases but let's talk about the reality how many workers you know became rich by working for someone else? It used to be practical in 50s or 60s but not anymore.

And even this one you mentioned Meta hired someone for 1.5billion only because they eventually convert that business into trillion dollar so 1.5bn is nothing compared to the potential money making.

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May 31, 2026, 08:34:54 PM
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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
Unlimited money can be earned from business and also losses can be incurred. But in the case of employment, a fixed amount of salary can be received every month, which is also called security income. But when you get a security income, it will be fixed and when you take a risk and start your own business, then you can get unlimited income from there. Starting a business and taking it to a big level requires a long process and a lot of risk has to be taken here, which not everyone has the ability to bear. Again, even though many have enough money, they cannot take the risk of doing business. And those who can continue their business by accepting all these things are the ones who are successful and successful businessmen always own a lot of money. None of the big and rich people in the world could become from employment, all of them have become through business.

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June 01, 2026, 03:08:06 AM
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One can make millions or even billions in some exceptional cases but let's talk about the reality how many workers you know became rich by working for someone else? It used to be practical in 50s or 60s but not anymore.

And even this one you mentioned Meta hired someone for 1.5billion only because they eventually convert that business into trillion dollar so 1.5bn is nothing compared to the potential money making.

Even if they are exception, they still show that the opportunity to become wealthy as an employee still exist and is not extinct as you and OP think.
Secondly, becoming a billionaire as an employee is very rare, but having a stable and comfortable life is not uncommon. In fact, many engineer, scientist, doctor, pilot...earn hundreds of thousands of dollars annually and accumulate considerable wealth over time.

You are not going to be one of the 100 richest billionaires in the world, but you can still be wealthier than most people and live a comfortable life even as an employee.

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One can make millions or even billions in some exceptional cases but let's talk about the reality how many workers you know became rich by working for someone else? It used to be practical in 50s or 60s but not anymore.

And even this one you mentioned Meta hired someone for 1.5billion only because they eventually convert that business into trillion dollar so 1.5bn is nothing compared to the potential money making.

Even if they are exception, they still show that the opportunity to become wealthy as an employee still exist and is not extinct as you and OP think.
Secondly, becoming a billionaire as an employee is very rare, but having a stable and comfortable life is not uncommon. In fact, many engineer, scientist, doctor, pilot...earn hundreds of thousands of dollars annually and accumulate considerable wealth over time.

You are not going to be one of the 100 richest billionaires in the world, but you can still be wealthier than most people and live a comfortable life even as an employee.

In that case, rich is very subjective. I consider having a yacht and a private jet at least to classify them as rich but for others, having an Audi and a house is rich.

But you missed my point, if you are working for someone then they are going to enjoy the results for your effort and you are going to get a very small portion and that doesn't happen when you are on your but as much as there is bigger rewards there is also chance of failing is high when we are on our own.

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June 01, 2026, 08:17:37 PM
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People get rich by investing, and running their own business, and not becoming an employee.
I think we are all thinking that there's no way for an employee to get rich. There's the career ladder and research about those CEOs, that came from the entry positions and they climbed up to the ladder and became one of the highest paid employees. Let's not all look into employees cannot be rich, there are ways but it takes a genius to reach to that point although the odds are pretty low but there were those who made it.
Actually, there needs to be a desire here, we know a close person, he works in a company with a fixed salary, but he also does various types of business, and he owns a large amount of wealth, so it is not just a matter of job here, the matter is willpower. If a person wants, he can go to a good level from any level, all that is needed is hard work. Those who can utilize all the opportunities through research and hard work, they will definitely be able to go to a good level. So we should never think that an employee can never become rich, remember that an employee can also become the owner of a company.

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Even though most of the richest people in the world are from the business world, I have seen people that very rich that are working and earning salaries without owning businesses. There are multibillion dollars establishments that pay their employees very well to point that they are very rich, they can afford everything they ever want in their life. Let’s take footballers for example, they earn big money from salaries without owning businesses and they are rich.
You have mentioned about the football players and about the other executive of the companies who are getting very good salaries but that is rare exceptional case not in normal case of employment. Sallaries always come with a limit those who are working with big organisation still they have a limit to earn because the income is tied to their time and contracts,  if they stops working their income stops but on the other hand those having the business they can earn money from the assests, profits  or investments they are not actually working on them,  employment is making only person wealthy but in the long term and scalable wealth is created through business.

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Even though most of the richest people in the world are from the business world, I have seen people that very rich that are working and earning salaries without owning businesses. There are multibillion dollars establishments that pay their employees very well to point that they are very rich, they can afford everything they ever want in their life. Let’s take footballers for example, they earn big money from salaries without owning businesses and they are rich.
Both business and working as a salary earner is good there are jobs that pays higher that even some business people can't be compare to it while there are also businesses that generates enough funds that salary earners can't also be compare with that's how it is so we can't say any is bad both are all good as long as money is at end of the day or weeks or months, salary earners are even in more advantage because they use money that they are been paid to also start up a business and start earning from both sides.

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Even though most of the richest people in the world are from the business world, I have seen people that very rich that are working and earning salaries without owning businesses. There are multibillion dollars establishments that pay their employees very well to point that they are very rich, they can afford everything they ever want in their life. Let’s take footballers for example, they earn big money from salaries without owning businesses and they are rich.
Both business and working as a salary earner is good there are jobs that pays higher that even some business people can't be compare to it while there are also businesses that generates enough funds that salary earners can't also be compare with that's how it is so we can't say any is bad both are all good as long as money is at end of the day or weeks or months, salary earners are even in more advantage because they use money that they are been paid to also start up a business and start earning from both sides.
People are more attracted towards business because there is personal freedom. If you are employed, the amount of personal freedom is very limited and some employed people cannot give proper time to their family members. A businessman can give time to his family as per his wish and enjoy freedom. It is true that some employed people can earn more than a businessman. An honest and hardworking businessman may not be in a good financial position initially but gradually his condition improves but even if the financial condition of a employed person improves, it is limited to a certain extent. In my opinion, as well as business people can enjoy a free life they can also achieve a lot of progress financially.

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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
The simple reason for that is because business is the employer that pays. Whatever establishment one works in is a business. Even if it's in a government establishment, it's still business because it's government's business. Money is made but no employee shares profit with a business owner. They only get paid peanuts from the so much their presence and input have made for the business they work for.

As someone who had run a business, I came to understand from experience that no business owner/employer pays an employee more than 5% of what that employee makes for the business. At most, 7%. Employers only wait for any employee to show agitation for a salary raise before they do any increment. Without that, employers are ever ready to play the slave master role. They like maximizing profit. That's how wealth is created.

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June 03, 2026, 04:55:59 PM
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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
You know that to start business is very easy when you have the capital you want, and a better location to establish the business where people will locate you easily, don't forget that business men and women also use to experience loss in their businesses because sometimes government can introduce some new law that will be making them to pay huge amount of funds for taxes, and you know that it will going to affect their income because there is no way they can ignore government tax through out the month or year. Majority of business men start from employment before they switched to business with the huge amount of funds they made from their place of work which is a good idea,I will advice other to follow the step to achieve their goal.

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June 03, 2026, 05:18:34 PM
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As an employee people have limited source of income because usually employee only can earn money from the salaries but the good thing is as employee people life will be prosperous because earning from salaries is very stable but from the other side life as employee won't make people rich because they cannot looking for other source that's why for some people who have big dream want to be a millionare will take the risk by quit from their jobs to build the business amd the purposes is these people want earn more money but indeed this is risky moved because if these people failed or bankrupt they will lost the money and jobless but if we speaking about the millionare they were created the employee because provide jobs opportunities for other people which i think that is the difference

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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
Because employees are workers who receive wages solely for the work they perform, as provided by the business owner.
The primary goal of a business is to generate profit. A business is run by one or more individuals who can be collectively referred to as an organization. Profit from the business is derived from the production machinery that has been established. The driving force behind this machinery includes the employees.
Nowhere is there a term for an employee who is wealthier than the business owner themselves, and this formulation is already well-established, much like most theories found in books and other sources.

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Even though most of the richest people in the world are from the business world, I have seen people that very rich that are working and earning salaries without owning businesses. There are multibillion dollars establishments that pay their employees very well to point that they are very rich, they can afford everything they ever want in their life. Let’s take footballers for example, they earn big money from salaries without owning businesses and they are rich.
Both business and working as a salary earner is good there are jobs that pays higher that even some business people can't be compare to it while there are also businesses that generates enough funds that salary earners can't also be compare with that's how it is so we can't say any is bad both are all good as long as money is at end of the day or weeks or months, salary earners are even in more advantage because they use money that they are been paid to also start up a business and start earning from both sides.
Yes, that's right, in the case of those who work, they can do a business along with their job if they want, not just one but they can also do multiple businesses if they want. But for those who are already involved in business, the matter is different, because they are already very skilled in business and they can earn a lot of wealth through business. The benefits of both are different, the only thing is how you manage them. You can do business with the amount of money you earn by working, but if you spend unnecessarily, then you cannot, and running a business is not easy because there is risk and you have to work hard here.

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Why is it that most millionaires or billionaires come from businesses? I rarely see someone who made immense wealth through being an employee under a company. Most people get employed, save up, invest in businesses and get rich. But no one actually becomes untouchable rich just by being an employee. What are the reasons for this?
You have already answered the question by yourself, an employee who is working under someone and is from a poor family will need to work very hard improve and become wealthy. There is never an employee that becomes wealthy why they are still an employee except they win lottery while working, or they inherited property from their parents while still an employee and they quit the job and go back to inherit their parents wealth. But hardly you become successful working for someone. Because if you even do there will be a question.
It can be difficult to become rich from a salary-based job, especially if one is from a poor family. The salary is fixed in the job, that is, we do not get more than a fixed salary. However, just because we are working under someone does not make it difficult for us to be successful. The path to success or getting hired is not the same for everyone. A person from a poor family increases his skills and experience through his job.

Later, he can start something on his own initiative with his job experience. For many, the job acts as the first step to success and skill. And by using the skill, they gain financial stability through regular savings, investments and long-term planning. Not everyone's skills are the same and family responsibilities and capabilities are not the same. The most important thing in life is continuous improvement, whether it is a job or a business. Many people start with a job and later reach the scale of a big business, while there are many businessmen who fail and are working.
Employee vs entrepreneur, job vs business. I'm sort of tired of it. It doesn't get the point at all. You've mentioned that many businessmen go out of business and return to work, you yourself did! And many employers establish lasting, significant careers. Therefore the binary is a fake. It always was.

The part of the improvement, however, is what is important. The ability of knowing what you're actually capable of vs what you think you should be able to do because someone on YouTube said so.

No one in these "quit your job and grind" forums wants to admit that there are people feeding their parents at present. Not next year. Now. The salary isn't a cage for those people. It's what will hold things together until they figure out what to do next.It's the thing that will keep them from falling apart.

The financial system as it is was not made for people who start from scratch. The required minimum deposits, credit scores, documentation requirements, and so on are all forms of gatekeeping, whether the intention was to be or not. Without bank access, and no salary, a person in a developing country is effectively cut out of the wealth building system for richer people.

 
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Yes, that's right, in the case of those who work, they can do a business along with their job if they want, not just one but they can also do multiple businesses if they want. But for those who are already involved in business, the matter is different, because they are already very skilled in business and they can earn a lot of wealth through business. The benefits of both are different, the only thing is how you manage them. You can do business with the amount of money you earn by working, but if you spend unnecessarily, then you cannot, and running a business is not easy because there is risk and you have to work hard here.
do you know that there is some certain job opportunity that you will secure and it will not to give you the privilege or chance for you to run a business, because there's no time that you have to monitor or survive your business that is why many people who is in government job it's always took their time and that is why majority of people who is working with the government does not establish a business of their own except to that they have siblings or they have wife that they will establish a business and when they are dismiss from work that can come and supervised their job.

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