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June 02, 2026, 05:05:21 PM
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You are very correct, the system is designed to keep the poor stagnant while the rich keeps getting richer, our government always do things to be in control over the poor masses , thinking about the whole thing can really messed with our mind, anyone in a good position make sure that whatever it takes them to maintain that position they are going to do it as long as they are in control and can used their subject however it pleases them , somehow the system is orchestrated to favour a certain people and is also been manipulated by man .
before we used to have three classes of people in terms of the economy. The first class is the rich class, the second class is the middle class and the third class is the poor. That is how it used to be in the past but now, the middle classes have been declined , now we don’t have middle class any longer, it is the first class and the third class citizens we have now. It is the way the system has been designed and it was not designed with the intention of making people rich. The middle class people have been declined to the poor and the poor has become poorer or even something worse than that and it is intentional.

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June 02, 2026, 05:07:36 PM
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You are right about this, when I was in school from childhood I saw how the teacher always asked about the ideals that were always suggested in the profession of work in a government agency or workers in the company, no one ever suggested being a businessman or entrepreneur, from this education system down to make a gene4ration remain a worker, and that is why every company must have certified education requirements, because school is a form of human formation that wants to be organized in a system of direction that has been made for diligent work.
 
Taxes and inflation become a real companion to stay at the bottom, and it is also necessary to understand that the discussion of money in school is very taboo, even though money is an important support in life.

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June 02, 2026, 05:48:33 PM
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.
I don't think so, if that were the case, no one in the same country would be able to go from poor to middle class or rich, In reality we see that bad policies can increase poverty but personal decisions, skills and economic environment also play a big role. And I will say looking at banks or the education system as a tool of control seems a bit one sided. Of course these have their flaws but at the same time, countless people have changed their situation through education and financial opportunities, I think the problem is in the system, but explaining everything as a planned conspiracy oversimplifies the real causes of poverty.

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June 02, 2026, 09:21:20 PM
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I get that it is not a contracted effort to keep us poor, I think it is about making them rich. Like for example, Jeff Bezos and Amazon kept all of its workers in terrible conditions, most of the warehouse workers had to pee in bottles AND they were getting help from the government because some states have 40k minimum a year for salaries, and amazon were allowed to pay less, and difference paid by the state just so they would have 10k+ jobs and help with unemployment and growing GDP.

This means, he made a lot of people poor, but the goal was not to make them poor, the goal was to make himself rich, if there was a method where his workers were getting richer, and he got even richer? He would have done that too.

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June 02, 2026, 09:24:37 PM
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I also share this conviction: governments keep a large portion of the population poor and ignorant, making it easier to exert power over them. My country has functioned this way for quite some time; politicians make campaign promises like ending poverty, hunger, and/or improving education, and in the end, they do nothing of what they promised. After all, if they end these problems, who will they govern for? Who will elect them?


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June 02, 2026, 10:05:31 PM
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I also share this conviction: governments keep a large portion of the population poor and ignorant, making it easier to exert power over them. My country has functioned this way for quite some time; politicians make campaign promises like ending poverty, hunger, and/or improving education, and in the end, they do nothing of what they promised. After all, if they end these problems, who will they govern for? Who will elect them?
Op stated the facts. Even though poverty is most times a result of an individual's poor decisions that make them miss good opportunities, governments too are not free from blame.

Some governments deliberately make things difficult for young and creative minds to explore and grow. When there are no job opportunities, no good basic amenities, no incentives for small business owners and entrepreneurs, no allowances for the unemployed and dependent people, a good number of the country's citizens will be poor.

If you see people migrating massively from their home countries to foreign countries to establish themselves, it is because the governments of their countries want to render them poor and helpless.

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Today at 06:13:41 AM
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Honestly speaking you are not far from the truth, the system looks prety orchestrated by man to suite only the rich while the poor become poorer. I have seen how the poor mases are more and are limited in the society. I once remember a slogan by one rich man in My local government, he said if everyone is rich , who will serve the rich or who will cal each each other boss, or who will clean the shoe of the rich. This makes me to believe that most of this hardship are orchestrated by politicians to keep you low and dependent on them always. So that they can manipulate you to their favor at any given time expecialy during election.
I'm convinced that the government and the authorities themselves are creating the problem of poverty and only worsening it every year, creating conditions in which people have to survive, not live. And why, exactly, is this being done? It's incredibly simple: it's to control the hungry masses. Poor and destitute people are much easier to control. They can even be sent to their deaths with the promise of loan repayments and debt relief. I've been observing this situation firsthand for over four years.

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Today at 10:18:24 AM
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I'm convinced that the government and the authorities themselves are creating the problem of poverty and only worsening it every year, creating conditions in which people have to survive, not live. And why, exactly, is this being done? It's incredibly simple: it's to control the hungry masses. Poor and destitute people are much easier to control. They can even be sent to their deaths with the promise of loan repayments and debt relief. I've been observing this situation firsthand for over four years.

Another reason for being poor is money laundering by the government and authorities and government not being responsible to the state. It is often seen that a country is self reliant but suffers financially due to various problems and thefts of the state. It is not possible to meet the various demands of the public properly, even as the price of each commodity continues to rise. This shows that inflation is constantly happening. And rich people or middle class people suffer from constant poverty, poor people find it difficult to survive. However, a well planned move by the government is required to solve all these problems. Then it is possible to make difficult life easier.

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Today at 11:33:26 AM
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I also share this conviction: governments keep a large portion of the population poor and ignorant, making it easier to exert power over them. My country has functioned this way for quite some time; politicians make campaign promises like ending poverty, hunger, and/or improving education, and in the end, they do nothing of what they promised. After all, if they end these problems, who will they govern for? Who will elect them?
Yes it is a design to keep people under control and subjection but I believe everyone has equal opportunities. Power exerted over citizen is not something anyone can fight against but staying completely dependent on the government for certain necessity is what will make them want to keep people under this control so they keep exerting full authority over them.

Countries where their government feed their citizens with empty promises during campaign is as a result of citizens condescending so low during election to sell votes for pleasure that can't last two days. We all need good governance and that I doubt the world will ever have again, all.wr need now is a transparent system where everything is broadcasted publicly with a timestamp and public ledger.

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Today at 02:06:58 PM
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Every bad things is actually good to the rich and powerful people, especially the so called leaders, to be in control they can initiate diseases outbreak, wars, famine and even poverty, in return they get what they have always wanted.

People like us are the problem of other people, it's by humans design not by the creator of earth or this world, it's all about controlling others and this is why Bitcoin just fits even more.

Strictly for those who can tell the difference though, the first time ever that I feel like poor people have an edge is by having some Bitcoin, unfortunately many still don't even know the potential of Bitcoin.

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Today at 04:16:18 PM
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Man created money, so there’s no way that poverty would have occured naturally by design, because nature never created money.
It was men who created money that knew the value of it, and what it could do, that designed poverty in a way that it will continue to favor them, while it keeps the masses poor.
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Today at 04:41:55 PM
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before we used to have three classes of people in terms of the economy. The first class is the rich class, the second class is the middle class and the third class is the poor. That is how it used to be in the past but now, the middle classes have been declined , now we don’t have middle class any longer, it is the first class and the third class citizens we have now. It is the way the system has been designed and it was not designed with the intention of making people rich. The middle class people have been declined to the poor and the poor has become poorer or even something worse than that and it is intentional.
Its a very noticeable point that gradually middle class is disappearing because inflation is increased consistently put the incomes still the same. Housing rents, health facilities and Education is so expensive that even the stable families struggled currently. On the other side the individuals who make assets at right time now grow faster than faster. So this situation divided our societies into two different groups in first group wealthy people are lying and in other struggled individuals are lying. But still there is a lot of opportunities to improve financial condition as compared to previous generations. So a gape is creating between rich and poor people and this can be filled through strong economic policies and greater access to opportunities and this may help to rebuild a mature and strong middle class.

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Today at 05:27:47 PM
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That is true, it didn't start today, it started even centuries ago when filthy rich, wealthy and powerful people and the authorities as well started to hoard some opportunities from the common man, they created some laws which made it very difficult for a common man to level up their life, they created many other systems (including political) so as to control the comman person and people who can not pull through will always be their ass licker. Poverty is not an accident, it has always been an orchestration by the wealthy elites and central authorities.
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Today at 08:07:04 PM
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.

Banks charge the poor and give the wealthy leverage. Is that not one angle poverty is by design. The education system teaches you to be employees not entrepreneurs. Religion too has been used to control people.

Bitcoin came as a way to destabilize the system. Let's be honest with ourselves, can anyone point out in history where poverty is naturally occuring or by design?

If the government want to end poverty today, they can do it but they don't wouldn't. Where are they going to have another polical tools for campaign, what things are they going to use to get people to vote for them. They need the voice of the poor they can use for election so they can always been in hope, that's where they stay until they gave up the ghost. The money most of this governments are using to fight, if they use the money to end poverty, the chapter will be closed.

How many times has the governments make promises to poor people, I'm very certain that in all countries there is poverty and before a government comes to power, they promised people heaven and earth, share things for them that if they get their, they are going to enjoy the government. By the time they get there, they forget like they never said anything like that, the people become the last chain of government, not getting involved but suffer.

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Today at 08:17:41 PM
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In my country, the poor can no longer afford to send their children to higher institution any more because the new administration came in and remove subsidy from education which was helping the poor then to send their children to school. Currently, the system is designed to only favor the rich because we don't have middle class people  any more. It's either, you are poor or rich. The rich will only be fined when they do something against the government wish but the poor will be sent to jail.
The poor will always be oppressed... while the rich can control the government if they have a lot of money, which is what we see in our country.

Nowadays, going to university is expensive, and scholarships for the poor are sometimes misused by some unscrupulous officials who give them to the rich. Is this common in other governments?

The rich will always have access, especially knowing officials in the government, while the poor will never hear any complaints.

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Today at 08:24:21 PM
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Man created money, so there’s no way that poverty would have occured naturally by design, because nature never created money.
It was men who created money that knew the value of it, and what it could do, that designed poverty in a way that it will continue to favor them, while it keeps the masses poor.
Many factors are responsible for the cause of poverty, political factors, economical factors, lack of insecurity, religion, war including tribal war which all of these are humanly made.

I agree with OP that poverty is orchestrated by man. No one is interested in ending poverty, everyone is searching for ways to remove themselves from poverty, that is why even in the best economy, there will be people living in poverty, as long the world is controlled by man, this is how it would be.

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Today at 08:42:40 PM
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The government love being in power, to an extend they fight against each other because of power and it needs just one person to control it. Poverty is kind of understandable but, having a high number of poor citizens who can’t afford the bare minimum is as a result of the government either citizens serve without a proper reward as mentioned taxation, education etc. In other words the system is being controlled by the government, the masses can’t do anything other than to struggle, there’s a level of consistency that will definitely help a person besides we’re thought to focus on government paying jobs and now with the look of things a white collar job can’t pay every bill so such person will consider owning a business and other important things aside government jobs, just mere government job can’t sustain anyone in such economy reason why most people are coming out of poverty because they released it.

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Today at 08:55:53 PM
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Another reason for being poor is money laundering by the government and authorities and government not being responsible to the state. It is often seen that a country is self reliant but suffers financially due to various problems and thefts of the state. It is not possible to meet the various demands of the public properly, even as the price of each commodity continues to rise. This shows that inflation is constantly happening. And rich people or middle class people suffer from constant poverty, poor people find it difficult to survive. However, a well planned move by the government is required to solve all these problems. Then it is possible to make difficult life easier.
The battle and envy between the ruling bodies won't open up a space for the poor to be remembered, leaders are always smaller in number than the followers, but fight themselves too often that they fail to realize who got them to the top. The government can't come up with a well planned policy for citizens, that won't get ruined by people in same office with them. Living at the mercy of gullible people will never do anybody good, the best way to have a better environment is to look around our vicinity and try as much as possible to put in place those things the government is not interested in fixing over a long period of time.

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Today at 09:12:26 PM
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.

Banks charge the poor and give the wealthy leverage. Is that not one angle poverty is by design. The education system teaches you to be employees not entrepreneurs. Religion too has been used to control people.

Bitcoin came as a way to destabilize the system. Let's be honest with ourselves, can anyone point out in history where poverty is naturally occuring or by design?

For one man to profit, another must suffer. That is the way it has been ever since ancient times.

Unless we give everyone equal shares, or at the least equal opportunities this will not change. People will continue exploiting each other for superficial reasons. But things have been getting better, if you were to look at it from a historical perspective of the human timeline.

Bitcoin is indeed the next step towards a better future. I truly believe it will abolish the rotten fiat system along with the corruption it brings.

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Today at 10:03:59 PM
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Every bad things is actually good to the rich and powerful people, especially the so called leaders, to be in control they can initiate diseases outbreak, wars, famine and even poverty, in return they get what they have always wanted.

People like us are the problem of other people, it's by humans design not by the creator of earth or this world, it's all about controlling others and this is why Bitcoin just fits even more.

Strictly for those who can tell the difference though, the first time ever that I feel like poor people have an edge is by having some Bitcoin, unfortunately many still don't even know the potential of Bitcoin.
Not entirely sure about the disease outbreak part. But yeah, rest is true, the rich would be willing to let 1+ billion people die today, in horrible death, if it means the economy will be better for them. They have absolutely zero empathy, they do not care. The "progress" they do for capitalism, is not something you really need, the humanity doesn't need to improve and evolve as much as you think.

The whole "if we didn't had capitalism, there wouldn't be spacerockets and flying to each other, and medicine. Well medicine would be still medicine, people do that even without money, did that in all of history. But others already exist, what's the new one, AI? We never needed it. So believe me, we should be scaling back on improving and evolving, and instead, look at each other in the eye, and not be like the billionaires, and help each other out.

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