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June 06, 2026, 07:50:35 PM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.

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June 06, 2026, 08:32:56 PM
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Poverty is a system designed by man to keep some people ahead of others


Poverty is more a mental state and consequence of mental laziness. 
People choose what they wish to do, if they believe that travel, and consume are the essence of life poverty will be around the corner.
How many elderly live now on memory alone?

 
poverty is not only caused by mental laziness as you said, I want to let you know that what causes poverty is not only about laziness is about being lack of understanding and also not being creative you can be strong and being active without have a good strategies that will elevate you from being poor, there are some people who wait for government to give them a good job before there will be out of poverty this kind of people are people that depends on government jobs why people who are creative can develop a way to survive without government so in summary richness is by Plan and it is not caused by laziness

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June 06, 2026, 09:29:21 PM
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The government create and implement all the above mentioned policies to be able to control the people which they have achieved all over. Before the introduction of the government human at some point are lazy that give room for poverty, if someone has is satisfied with the life style he or she is living this can really lead to poverty. The difference between the rich and the poor is that the rich are willing to extend there boundaries for a more complex flow of income while the poor is ok with where the are then with time they bocome stocked.

Poverty is not caused by laziness, many people are hard working, but they are still poor. Some are poor due to destiny, while some are due to unfortunate circumstances that can’t be changed, so you saying people that are poor are lazy is not true.

I agree with you that those that are willing to extend their source of income become rich, yes, but not all the time, because those people tend to take bigger risks, which sometimes crash and break them.

So, wealth is not all about being hardworking, it is just about being smart, knowing when to act, and also not being greedy.
The issue about poverty comes with lot of complications because to some people it is laziness while to some it is not laziness, some people are rich or wealthy today because they have opportunities and not necessarily because they are not lazy or they are best of their kind, there are different ways through which people are making money or can make money, so in life you only have to find yourself doing one thing or the other which can possibly change or improve your current financial situation and whenever I look at the whole situation of things in this life I kept telling myself that everyone can never be rich and that's is just nature, you can only do the best that you can.

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June 06, 2026, 09:57:52 PM
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There are countries that justice is only given to the rich because they have the money. While the poor doesn't get any justice if ever they've done wrong.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
It has given wealth to the early investors and the investors who will act on today if they're for the long term which will make them still being described as early investor by the future investors.
It's nice to have bitcoin and thanks to satoshi that they've made this to solve the flawed system where there's no distribution of wealth globally.
And bitcoin did its job well and will continue to work it on.

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June 06, 2026, 10:27:39 PM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
That's why Dubai is the favorite place for people who are free from crazy taxes, it's much better than other countries therefore people can own luxury cars and live well.
Poverty seems to be built from top to bottom by some groups, namely the rich, who don't want to be removed from the top of the money power.

Instead of talking about that, we must also talk about a way out of the bad system, for people who are able to think, they can definitely get out of that zone, but the fact is that not many people have awakened their minds to get out of the system that has been made to make them poor.

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June 06, 2026, 11:36:22 PM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
That's why Dubai is the favorite place for people who are free from crazy taxes, it's much better than other countries therefore people can own luxury cars and live well.
Poverty seems to be built from top to bottom by some groups, namely the rich, who don't want to be removed from the top of the money power.

Instead of talking about that, we must also talk about a way out of the bad system, for people who are able to think, they can definitely get out of that zone, but the fact is that not many people have awakened their minds to get out of the system that has been made to make them poor.

Well even the places like Dubai that were considered the one of the best business hub and people living there wee the more lucky ones, but even that myth is proven wrong as even though one may get finicial freedom there but it is not the safest country to live in. We have seen how badly it was affected with war and people had to migrate back to Thier home towns.

Anyways poverty is not only that you have less money, but also if you aren't safe and also if you do not have health, you are considered more poor even if you have money.

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June 06, 2026, 11:39:09 PM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
That's why Dubai is the favorite place for people who are free from crazy taxes, it's much better than other countries therefore people can own luxury cars and live well.
Poverty seems to be built from top to bottom by some groups, namely the rich, who don't want to be removed from the top of the money power.

Instead of talking about that, we must also talk about a way out of the bad system, for people who are able to think, they can definitely get out of that zone, but the fact is that not many people have awakened their minds to get out of the system that has been made to make them poor.

3% of community on the top of pyramid use bank as money dredging machine, that makes money flow from the bottom of the inverted pyramid into their pockets. Bank collected our money from many middle and lower class which are major communities in the bottom of pyramid. But frankly speaking not all can access those money, only a few of lower community can access it and full access even unlimited access for community on the top of pyramid. The difference happen because upper class has asset for colateral to get loan and community on the bottom of pyramid doesn't have it. So one effective way to reduce property by pull out our saving or stop saving on conventional bank. Community on the bottom of pyramid must be consolidated to avoid money flow upward, they must find a way so money can spread and flow strong and swift on the bottom of pyramid, by strengthening economic community, we can buy from near us and avoid to buy on departmenet store or large retail chains.

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June 07, 2026, 05:19:34 AM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
The government are out to keep people under their control that's the reason why they do things to make sure that people remain poor so they can control them. People are now able to attain full time wealth, thanks to Bitcoin and other means that has made a lot of people financially independent. Some people have been able to break out of this program they were designed to follow. Making money is no longer a mystery because there are lots of things you can do now to be financially stable without relying on the government.

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June 07, 2026, 07:02:26 AM
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Poverty is not caused by laziness, many people are hard working, but they are still poor. Some are poor due to destiny, while some are due to unfortunate circumstances that can’t be changed, so you saying people that are poor are lazy is not true.

I agree with you that those that are willing to extend their source of income become rich, yes, but not all the time, because those people tend to take bigger risks, which sometimes crash and break them.

So, wealth is not all about being hardworking, it is just about being smart, knowing when to act, and also not being greedy.
The issue about poverty comes with lot of complications because to some people it is laziness while to some it is not laziness, some people are rich or wealthy today because they have opportunities and not necessarily because they are not lazy or they are best of their kind, there are different ways through which people are making money or can make money, so in life you only have to find yourself doing one thing or the other which can possibly change or improve your current financial situation and whenever I look at the whole situation of things in this life I kept telling myself that everyone can never be rich and that's is just nature, you can only do the best that you can.

Your last sentence has explained my point. Which is why am emphasising that poverty is not caused by laziness. You also mention that everyone can’t get rich, which is true. So judging people or thinking they are not working hard enough in trying to change their financial situation means there are lazy, is not right. Because some of them have did all they can and everything didn’t work for them, so they stop been consistent and that is the main reason there are at the situation they are now, which people called poor.

So, to me I will never agree that poor people are lazy, but they just don’t have the connections, consistency, confidence that others have. That is why it’s been said that if you want to be rich you have to start doing what others are not doing.


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June 07, 2026, 08:43:45 AM
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Poverty is a weapon to make the masses submit, it's very unfortunate that a lot of people are not awaken to this truth. Do you know it is easier to control an hungry population than a population of people who are independent and self reliant? The honest truth is that people who are established tend to find directions that are in fact favourable for them which in turn stabilizes the economy of a particular country.

Look around you, the rate of unemployment and hunger brings about a more flexible and submissive people who can be blown by little to nothing just to carryout a thing or two for the Government. Government fuels poverty for dependence that is it.

In school we are taught and conditioned to fit into a class of people who are dependent on the government with pennies that are only enough to bring you back to work for another penny, it is indeed an endless cycle which only a ew break out from. Moving forward, parents should instill the need for independence to their children, teach children how to start up petty businesses and groom them into nigger businesses and brands owner in the near future but then are parents not supposed to have the knowledge before they could share them?
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So, to me I will never agree that poor people are lazy, but they just don’t have the connections, consistency, confidence that others have. That is why it’s been said that if you want to be rich you have to start doing what others are not doing.


There are many causes of poverty, and it cannot be denied that laziness is one of them. But yes, it is not the main cause and not the only reason.

It is unfair and short sighted to assume that poor people are poor because they are lazy. Because the reality is often quite the opposite. Many of the poor people are often the hardest workers, because with low wages, they have no choice but to work more just to get by.

There are many causes of poverty, including limited access to education, weak policy systems, and lack of opportunities…we should not reduce it to laziness or look down on people who are poor.

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June 07, 2026, 10:10:08 AM
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The system is designed to make the rich richer and the poor struggle and get poorer. I agree with your point; one thing the government is always so much concerned about is how to control the people and keep them under while the few elites have the privilege to access wealth and build more wealth through the sweat and tax payment of the poor.

Bitcoin gives financial freedom, but it doesn't give wealth. The protocol is designed to give you financial control and not give you full-time wealth; you need to figure out how to fill in the gap of satisfying the demand of what's needed in your society, make wealth out of what others see as a problem and build yourself up to the next level.
The government are out to keep people under their control that's the reason why they do things to make sure that people remain poor so they can control them. People are now able to attain full time wealth, thanks to Bitcoin and other means that has made a lot of people financially independent. Some people have been able to break out of this program they were designed to follow. Making money is no longer a mystery because there are lots of things you can do now to be financially stable without relying on the government.
Many countries are like that, especially developing countries, but it all comes back to oneself to be able to change one's fate and certainly by working hard. Bitcoin only makes it easier, and it can even be done if people can set aside their money, provided they have first gotten out of poverty or are able to meet their basic needs, only then can they invest in Bitcoin to gain profits or change their fate in the future.

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June 07, 2026, 11:20:01 AM
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.

Banks charge the poor and give the wealthy leverage. Is that not one angle poverty is by design. The education system teaches you to be employees not entrepreneurs. Religion too has been used to control people.

Bitcoin came as a way to destabilize the system. Let's be honest with ourselves, can anyone point out in history where poverty is naturally occuring or by design?

How about looking at it from a different perspective? Sure, you need the government to support business and make sure that things like taxes are fairly set. They should foster an environment of prosperity that means business owners want to invest more back into the country and expand their companies. On the flip side of that you can often find many people are irresponsible or overly wasteful with their money, which s a limited resource they should try to manage well. I see people on low paid jobs who get home and get fast food delivered, which can sometimes cost an hour or two worth of work - it's expensive when if they put in a little bit more effort they could have a nicer meal for a lot less. There's nothing wrong with treating yourself occasionally, but when you're doing that multiple times a week it's crazy.

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June 07, 2026, 12:36:18 PM
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After God's natural creation everything that we see around us are created by man including infrastructures and classes in the societies, our capabilities are not the same so with time you will see some people will have more than the others. Egalitarian society is just in theory because in practical all fingers are not equal and that is why there must be rich and poor everywhere in the world.

Despite the fact that everybody cannot be very rich but atleast everybody is supposed to be comfortable in every country but it is not the case for many poor countries where the gap between the rich and poor is very wide. Governments don't help matters they will make policies that will favor the rich who gives them kickbacks while the majority of the citizens will remain in lack and poverty.

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June 07, 2026, 01:17:32 PM
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There are many causes of poverty, including limited access to education, weak policy systems, and lack of opportunities…we should not reduce it to laziness or look down on people who are poor.
To an extent, we can even assume that the rich ones are only the privilege percentage of the society that either got the opportunity to acquire the basic education, or that were privileged to be birthed by rich parents or that grew under a functional system or were lucky to inherit resources and system they didn't work for and the least if such category will be the ones that actually worked their self to the top. Just an handful of people actually work themselves to the top and that's why the rest can be tagged to be privileged.

Some poverty are orchastrated by men, some by the government and some by the person that's even poor.  Most times, lack of responsibility or the failing to take up responsibility and to face life the way it comes also leads to poverty.

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June 07, 2026, 02:05:03 PM
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.

Banks charge the poor and give the wealthy leverage. Is that not one angle poverty is by design. The education system teaches you to be employees not entrepreneurs. Religion too has been used to control people.

Bitcoin came as a way to destabilize the system. Let's be honest with ourselves, can anyone point out in history where poverty is naturally occuring or by design?
Op I completely agree with you that poverty is planned by humans. A large international circle is involved in the creation of planned poverty, the main key of which is in the hands of developed countries. IMF is a large lending organization in the world, although their main plan is to provide loans to different countries, the conditions imposed by the organization make the least developed countries poorer. The structure they adopt for providing loans contains the necessary elements for creating poverty, which the government of a country is forced to comply with, as a result, it directly harms the country financially and makes the people of the country poor.

In addition to the programs adopted by financial institutions like IMF, the work done by various international human rights organizations and NGOs to alleviate poverty teaches the people of the country to depend on others, as a result of which the citizens become poor. Internationally powerful countries put pressure on the governments of weak countries and implement the decisions they ask them to implement, as a result of which the financial condition of most poor countries does not change much.











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June 07, 2026, 02:20:19 PM
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Op I completely agree with you that poverty is planned by humans.

Calling every hurdle a conspiracy is what?
Once you place responsibility into hands of the poor they have an handle to advance. If you place the responsibility into the hand of politicians you become a member of the herd. What is what you wish to be? Why can't a poor person wish for a similar outcome? 

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So, to me I will never agree that poor people are lazy, but they just don’t have the connections, consistency, confidence that others have. That is why it’s been said that if you want to be rich you have to start doing what others are not doing.


There are many causes of poverty, and it cannot be denied that laziness is one of them. But yes, it is not the main cause and not the only reason.

It is unfair and short sighted to assume that poor people are poor because they are lazy. Because the reality is often quite the opposite. Many of the poor people are often the hardest workers, because with low wages, they have no choice but to work more just to get by.

There are many causes of poverty, including limited access to education, weak policy systems, and lack of opportunities…we should not reduce it to laziness or look down on people who are poor.

Exactly my point. I just didn’t express it this widely, which is why I was not ready to agree with any of them. They said it directly that the poor people are lazy, and that is why they are still poor.

Furthermore, laziness can only be a factor that can cause poverty, not a cause of poverty, because most people who become poor due to laziness were not poor from the beginning. They were a bit financially stable, but they decided not to put more effort into their work or businesses. At the end of the day they ended up poor due to laziness. So, laziness is not a direct cause of poverty, but a factor that can contribute to poverty.

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June 07, 2026, 06:59:19 PM
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Furthermore, laziness can only be a factor that can cause poverty, not a cause of poverty, because most people who become poor due to laziness were not poor from the beginning. They were a bit financially stable, but they decided not to put more effort into their work or businesses. At the end of the day they ended up poor due to laziness. So, laziness is not a direct cause of poverty, but a factor that can contribute to poverty.
Not all but many. But that's one reason why someone is stopping themselves to their full potential when they become lazy. Those rich before and got poor, it's not about laziness but there's something wrong on how they've spent their fortune to nonsense things. Or they have lost tremendous wealth from the investments that they've wrongly invested. It could be one or the either.

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June 12, 2026, 06:35:02 AM
Last edit: June 12, 2026, 06:52:54 AM by Exitoral
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Poverty is not an accident but a systematic design by the government. To keep people under control. Government control minimum wage, inflation, taxation and education. All these can be used to orchestrate the poverty. If you think I am lying, look around you.

Banks charge the poor and give the wealthy leverage. Is that not one angle poverty is by design. The education system teaches you to be employees not entrepreneurs. Religion too has been used to control people.

Bitcoin came as a way to destabilize the system. Let's be honest with ourselves, can anyone point out in history where poverty is naturally occuring or by design?

You are not lying, you simply aren't providing any solution to the problem. Thinking that Bitcoin is the ultimate solution, that would put and end to global poverty is simply stupid. Can poor people afford to buy lots of BTC? No. Will the BTC price increase 10x or 20x in the next few years?
I don't think so. Will Bitcoin suddenly make people educated? How can Bitcoin improve the education and the healthcare systems?
Taxation makes people poor? You do realize that you have to pay taxes over your BTC earnings and capital gains, right?
I know that the system favors the rich, but do you really believe that Bitcoin favors the poor? Most Bitcoin/crypto investors are extremely wealthy.
I'm not criticizing Bitcoin. BTC is a tool and you have to use it for your own benefit, but please don't add any miraculous features to Bitcoin.

Fine. I didn't provide a solution as you said that doesn't end poverty. As for your write up, you also didn't provide any solution. I would like to read about the solution you have in mind. Quote this when you see this.

Op I completely agree with you that poverty is planned by humans.

Calling every hurdle a conspiracy is what?
Once you place responsibility into hands of the poor they have an handle to advance. If you place the responsibility into the hand of politicians you become a member of the herd. What is what you wish to be? Why can't a poor person wish for a similar outcome?  
I hope you agree with me that information is systematically designed not to reach the poor. Because with information, you can level up quickly and faster. It's not about placing responsibility in their hands. Have one taught them how to handle it. Or you thought the rich just magically know how to do things. Nope. They have being taught. The poor too needs teachings and guidance like the rich.


So, to me I will never agree that poor people are lazy, but they just don’t have the connections, consistency, confidence that others have. That is why it’s been said that if you want to be rich you have to start doing what others are not doing.


There are many causes of poverty, and it cannot be denied that laziness is one of them. But yes, it is not the main cause and not the only reason.

It is unfair and short sighted to assume that poor people are poor because they are lazy. Because the reality is often quite the opposite. Many of the poor people are often the hardest workers, because with low wages, they have no choice but to work more just to get by.

There are many causes of poverty, including limited access to education, weak policy systems, and lack of opportunities…we should not reduce it to laziness or look down on people who are poor.

Exactly my point. I just didn’t express it this widely, which is why I was not ready to agree with any of them. They said it directly that the poor people are lazy, and that is why they are still poor.

Furthermore, laziness can only be a factor that can cause poverty, not a cause of poverty, because most people who become poor due to laziness were not poor from the beginning. They were a bit financially stable, but they decided not to put more effort into their work or businesses. At the end of the day they ended up poor due to laziness. So, laziness is not a direct cause of poverty, but a factor that can contribute to poverty.

Laziness can't be the factor as poor people are the most hardworking people. I will quote somebody that made a point to this.


So, to me I will never agree that poor people are lazy, but they just don’t have the connections, consistency, confidence that others have. That is why it’s been said that if you want to be rich you have to start doing what others are not doing.


There are many causes of poverty, and it cannot be denied that laziness is one of them. But yes, it is not the main cause and not the only reason.

It is unfair and short sighted to assume that poor people are poor because they are lazy. Because the reality is often quite the opposite. Many of the poor people are often the hardest workers, because with low wages, they have no choice but to work more just to get by.

There are many causes of poverty, including limited access to education, weak policy systems, and lack of opportunities…we should not reduce it to laziness or look down on people who are poor.
A well thought of point you made. Many people blaming laziness are not realistic at all. Well done.

Poverty is a system designed by man to keep some people ahead of others


Poverty is more a mental state and consequence of mental laziness. 
People choose what they wish to do, if they believe that travel, and consume are the essence of life poverty will be around the corner.
How many elderly live now on memory alone?

 
poverty is not only caused by mental laziness as you said, I want to let you know that what causes poverty is not only about laziness is about being lack of understanding and also not being creative you can be strong and being active without have a good strategies that will elevate you from being poor, there are some people who wait for government to give them a good job before there will be out of poverty this kind of people are people that depends on government jobs why people who are creative can develop a way to survive without government so in summary richness is by Plan and it is not caused by laziness

I am really sad as to why people blame laziness as cause of poverty. What about Samson that packs dustbin. Isn't he hardworking. I am just making an example. Check the low earners people, are they not hardworking?
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