Transition from gambling for Fun into gambling for income.

[Sonia_123]

This happens when the person is lucky and always winning, the gambler starts seeing himself as a good gambler that does not only needs the fun of gambling but the income to make a better meaning of his life, forgetting that gambling wins are not constant and guaranteed to take such bold steps and before he realizes himself he his far gone into losses which he can't come out of it but to start chasing losses which cannot be recovered.. it is better you gamble for fun 

[Agbamoni]

When a gambler starts risking a high amount that is far above the amount they they would afford to have fun with, then it means they are no longer gambling for entertainment but rather for financial benefits alone, if someone actually wants to gamble for the sake of the profit and entertainment, they can do so with the money they can afford to lose but when the only purpose is for financial dependency, it become clear that the person will most likely risk a huge amount to gain more.

No. Some who gamble for fun also risk a high amount in gambling. We dont have to use the amount, whether low or high, to judge if someone is gambling for profit or they are gambling for entertainment. Entertainment can cost at any price? You know that? A millionaire can visit a casino to have pleasure in gambling, prostitution, and alcohol without minding the amount he spends doing those activities.

[Botnake]

This happens when the person is lucky and always winning, the gambler starts seeing himself as a good gambler that does not only needs the fun of gambling but the income to make a better meaning of his life, forgetting that gambling wins are not constant and guaranteed to take such bold steps and before he realizes himself he his far gone into losses which he can't come out of it but to start chasing losses which cannot be recovered.. it is better you gamble for fun 

People could be shifting their mindset about gambling but if you can analyze well the real purpose of gambling, you will not adapt this kind of mindset just because of consistent wins.

Gambling is just a game of probability, at times you can win if you're lucky and lose if you're not. So if you tolerate yourself and stick gambling for income, I guess you have to prepare yourself for bigger losses in the future. Experienced gamblers have been there, and they regret the moment they decide to stick gambling as a source of living.

[Hispo]

Now I have a question I will like us to discuss about too, At what point do you think gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming financial dependence?

I think gambling because of money and gambling due to economical dependence are two very different things are are supposed to be distinguished, so one can know how deep someone is into gambling addiction.
Someone gambling for money is not necessarily dependant on the outcomes of their sessions in order to afford their needs, like clothing, shelter, food and other necessary things who needs to live. They may be addicted to gambling, but they are just trying to complement their personal finances with gambling.
On the other hand, someone who is economically dependant on gambling will either have something in their stomach depending on the outcome of their session. Those people are generally poor and not educated when comes to the edge of the house or financial instruments.

Since I come from a country which is within the third world, I have already seen people who are actually dependant on gambling in order to eat.

[Cointxz]

Now I have a question I will like us to discuss about too, At what point do you think gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming financial dependence?

If you already eagerly to chase losses even if you are spending a budget outside of your comfort zone.

There’s always a point that we will encounter series of losses even if we are lucky on our earlier bet. Right when we are already comfortable that we can have continuous profit there’s the losing streak that will make us question everything and start changing your perspective on gambling as source of entertainment.

Not always when someone encounter consistent profit gambler break their belief. Most of the time those losses change our perspective since experiencing profit will still make us feel in total control.

[alegotardo]

Now I have a question I will like us to discuss about too, At what point do you think gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming financial dependence?

I think there come a point where fun mixes with financial dependence when the person truly realize that they can make money from something they enjoy.
And actually, I do not see a problem with this if the person have limits and gamble with responsibly from the time they play just for fun.

In other words... the risk will always exist, but while it is just for fun there is no financial pressure. The difference is when you make wrong decisions because you were more concerned with recovering lost money than with having fun.

[Darker45]

If you're mainly thinking of the money that you could get if you win, then you're apparently gambling for money. If you're gambling for entertainment, you'd just play and enjoy the game. Of course, there's excitement if you win. That's part of gambling. But if you lose, it doesn't mean you aren't enjoying the game. If you felt emotional or got into a bad mood after losing, then it's obvious you're not gambling for entertainment.

[yhiaali3]

I agree with you. Most gamblers start gambling for fun because of some friends and close acquaintances, but unfortunately, once they start their first gamble, it becomes like the first cigarette, and giving it up becomes very difficult.

In my opinion, a person does not necessarily have to think of gambling as a means of income and not for entertainment in order to get involved in it and not be able to give it up except with great difficulty. In other words, whether a person thinks of gambling as a means of entertainment or a means of profit, it is difficult for him to give it up because it simply turns into a kind of addiction.

[jcojci]

The point start when you start win for some rounds and thinks that you can make more money. That will makes you start thinks that gambling is one of the source of money. You will not thinks that is difficult because you prove that you win some money.

Many things will around your head and you imagine if you use big money to gamble, your winning will be big. That will not happens in reality, casino wants to make a profit so they will not let you win easily.

If you aware, you will not change your reason playing gambling but you will still have fun and not thinks about the result.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

When a gambler starts risking a high amount that is far above the amount they they would afford to have fun with, then it means they are no longer gambling for entertainment but rather for financial benefits alone, if someone actually wants to gamble for the sake of the profit and entertainment, they can do so with the money they can afford to lose but when the only purpose is for financial dependency, it become clear that the person will most likely risk a huge amount to gain more.

No. Some who gamble for fun also risk a high amount in gambling. We dont have to use the amount, whether low or high, to judge if someone is gambling for profit or they are gambling for entertainment. Entertainment can cost at any price? You know that? A millionaire can visit a casino to have pleasure in gambling, prostitution, and alcohol without minding the amount he spends doing those activities.

Anyways, I can agree that gambling for fun or profit is at the discretion of the gambler, but every gambler should have a proper financial planning before gambling. Entertainment should fit under a budget and not any price, what comes at any price is nothing more than survival. A millionaire can be gambling irresponsibly and spending lavishly beyond his financial abilities and being a millionaire doesn't justify his recklessness, moderation should be practiced in everything and by everyone. Recklessness in financial management is still part the reason we have former millionaires who currently struggle to make a living.

[Julien_Olynpic]

This represents the natural evolution of human needs—an evolution of needs, but not of capabilities. Naturally, sooner or later, a person who plays for pleasure begins to contemplate turning their pastime into a regular source of income. However, the truth is that almost no one succeeds in doing so. At best, only 1% of users manage to make money through gambling. Yet, typically, even these earnings prove to be temporary; as a rule, people eventually lose their money.

[Jostern]

I don’t believe there are people who gamble for fun, most people are gambling because of money, they want to make money from gambling one way or the other, and I don’t think there is anyone that is going to keep winning from gambling on a regular basis, because gambling has its own rules as well, which say gamble responsibly, but most people might not do it responsibly and there are people who are also doing it responsibly, gambling for fun and gambling for income might still be the same because you’re trying to make out something for yourself.

Personally myself I gamble because of the money and income you’re talking about.

[Kelward]

Lack of self control can lead a gambler to ruin because gambling is very addictive and if you don't have what it is takes to remain committed to responsible gambling you will surely derail along the way. It is easy to conclude that you want to be gambling for fun but if you don't constantly remind yourself about your decision you might start to gamble irresponsibly by chasing loses to recover your loses to become rich.

Many gamblers have tried to become rich in gambling but one way or another it never happened, it's not like they don't win sometimes but they use it to continue gambling to win bigger amounts then they lose everything. It is so much better to gamble for fun because you don't have to worry about becoming rich through it, if you win you should take it and enjoy it but if you lose you should accept it and move on.

[OsaiEmma]

Some gamblers usually start gambling just for fun however, as they continue gambling and starts winning and making Money from it they slowly transition into gambling for income and not for fun anymore without even realizing it.

It usually starts like this at first, they think and say:

“I’m just gambling for fun nothing more.”

But after they have won or after a few wins there thinking change to:

“Maybe I can actually make more steady money from this gambling.”

And after they start losing back to back, they start thinking or saying:

“I just need few big win to recover all the money I have lost.”

And this is how they starts gambling for income and not for fun anymore.

Now I have a question I will like us to discuss about too, At what point do you think gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming financial dependence?

Other than the gamblers in this forum, out there in the real world most gamblers, if not all gamblers I've met before coming here gamble for financial purposes or income. The idea of gambling for fun was introduced or made known to me when I came here in the forum, so this transition, in reality can only happen to forum members which is highly unlikely.

Although, my statement above is limited to my own personal experience, I can't say for everyone. There probably might be gamblers out there who gamble for fun and probably transitioned. But when it comes to forum members, I feel the transition is the other way around most of the time. Although, I don't think I need to transition, I gamble casually but for financial purposes not exactly for fun. I gamble to make some side money, albeit moderately.

[Jody.Drummer]

Now I have a question I will like us to discuss about too, At what point do you think gambling stops being entertainment and starts becoming financial dependence?

I think there come a point where fun mixes with financial dependence when the person truly realize that they can make money from something they enjoy.
And actually, I do not see a problem with this if the person have limits and gamble with responsibly from the time they play just for fun.

In other words... the risk will always exist, but while it is just for fun there is no financial pressure. The difference is when you make wrong decisions because you were more concerned with recovering lost money than with having fun.

If they gamble with limits or gamble responsibly, then the thought or goal of gambling to earn income will not exist and even if there is, it will not be a priority, in contrast to when they lose self-control including their wise behavior in gambling, then the emergence of the thought of gambling to earn income can become a priority by forcing themselves to continue gambling until they get a win that can make them satisfied.

[Rubuchi]

This happens when the person is lucky and always winning, the gambler starts seeing himself as a good gambler that does not only needs the fun of gambling but the income to make a better meaning of his life, forgetting that gambling wins are not constant and guaranteed to take such bold steps and before he realizes himself he his far gone into losses which he can't come out of it but to start chasing losses which cannot be recovered.. it is better you gamble for fun 

when you are winning perpetually in gambling, it becomes a thing to worry about to me because you can easily get carried away by it and as a result take some crazy decisions that can backfire. Gambling is a game that was originally created for entertainment though I heard another account where some historians described the casting of marked sticks and other objects and interpreting the outcome , it was like man sought knowledge of the future and the intentions of the gods through gambling sought of. So we must also know the whole idea and intention behind gambling before venturing into it so we don’t get ourselves deceived or caught in the middle of it.

[purple_sparkles]

As for me personally, I have a very strong safeguard against becoming overly addicted to gambling. One of my relatives ruined his relationships with close people, including with me, because of gambling. He also ended up with a huge amount of debt that he is unable to repay. His situation is the strongest trigger and reminder for me of why you should never fully rely on luck in gambling, no matter how much it may seem that luck is 100% on your side. I do gamble because I enjoy it, but I definitely will not take excessive risks.

[TopT3ns]

When gamblers already find gambling easy to win, if it's like they are addicted, it is difficult to get out of this circle, which in the end makes them even more financially dependent.

Gambling is full of dramatics --- the beginning is for fun, after you win luck a proud attitude will come and this is what makes them think gambling is easy to win.

This depends on you, because I'm sure there are still gamblers out there who can still control well.

Addiction easily develops when they find gambling working on their favor, that's why instead of being cautious when gambling, they build more confidence to maximize the profit opportunity because they really think gambling will continuously make them profitable in the long run. That's what they thought, and that's how they are being tricked and finally end up in the casino's trap.

There is no possibility that gambling will become a financial dependence. While others understand it as another trap, but majority still fall on it until they find themselves drown into debt.

Betting house algorithms, by rewarding human dopamine, play with human dopamine in a way that will offer unforeseen periodic rewards. Short term success creates an illusion of false security with a confirmation bias by victims to think they predicted the outcome wrongly. Debt traps are a logical consequence when logical control is completely subjugated to the empty dream of instant wealth without much effort.

[Taskford]

As for me personally, I have a very strong safeguard against becoming overly addicted to gambling. One of my relatives ruined his relationships with close people, including with me, because of gambling. He also ended up with a huge amount of debt that he is unable to repay. His situation is the strongest trigger and reminder for me of why you should never fully rely on luck in gambling, no matter how much it may seem that luck is 100% on your side. I do gamble because I enjoy it, but I definitely will not take excessive risks.

Good to hear that because its really important for us gamblers to have safeguards and to know the consequences of gambling.

Because with that we will never tried to exceed, because we know the next situation will happen became devastating. To many people exceed for wanting to gain more, but since gambling is risky and winning is uncertain its really hard for us to determine if we are going to be lucky straightaway if we choose to extend more hours and spend lots of money. So better gamble for enjoyment and not for chasing some wins or even those losses they already experiencing.

[TheUltraElite]

The idea comes from having lost and then won money to either make it back or break even. The confidence is what makes them think in the lines of being able to establish gambling as an income. This is the flaw that every new gambler faces once in their gambling career.

"If you think like the sheep you will be slaughtered like the sheep"

So in order to think like the wolf, you have to build the casino and draw the gamblers to that casino. Then only it becomes an income and fun.