How clean are the big leagues really?

[leonair]

I don't think that big leagues can manipulate the result of a live match when there's VAR to call him to order. Of course, the referee can make a decision that will affect the outcome of the game but it must be a clear decision that VAR agrees with. Big boys don't have the power to influence big leagues because it wouldn't work for them since, a lot of eyes are watching.

It's in the small leagues that we have the highest level of manipulation and I wouldn't dare bet on such leagues because it's like you are throwing away your money.

Fixing happens in big matches but it is very rare. Fixing in a live game is very difficult because big matches have big budgets and there is a lot of money involved so everything is monitored very carefully. But match fixing happens in all sports like football or cricket and I have seen some such incidents. But no one knows when it will happen or in which match only those who do it know because they bet millions of dollars that way and from here they scam a lot of money. but that is not easy task.

[KTChampions]

I just had this thought because of what is happening in our country and probably in many other places too.

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.
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Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

Excellent topic, why didn't I notice this before? But I would like to clarify that it's not the rich who are in control (although they are certainly among the main players in this dirty game), but the alphabet agencies. All these bastards have long since gotten out of control of society in almost every country. No matter how you vote or what you do, it's always they, not the people, who control events. Just look at Trump, who almost openly betrays his country in the interests of another (while breaking all his campaign promises). It is quite obvious to me that with such all-pervasive corruption, not everything is clean in sports (which is both a huge business and a huge channel of influence) either.

[Crypto Library]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

Actually, the issue is not just about your offer thinking, because the issues you are discussing have already happened in previous times in sports tournaments, even those were big tournaments. Here, the issue we see the most is match fixing and no matter how much you discuss in the field of sports, if there are any scandals here, 90% of them are scandals related to fixing.

However, the issue I want to mention here is that most of the scandals and stories of fixing were more in the previous times in big tournaments, but now, as far as I can see, the scandal stories are very few. And in the last two or three years, I have not seen anything like this or come across it. Maybe everything is more strictly maintained now.

[DiMarxist]

You are right and your observation is correct, looking at some of these big leagues that has a strong level of followership especially the premier League. We have seen the conduct of referees and the way that they approach some certain teams when they are playing. Some referee's have soft spots when it comes to some teams, especially in the premier League league were we have seen different rules apply by different referee's in the same incident involving different teams. This has caused some people to think that some certain teams has preferential treatment over others especially the big teams.

[serjent05]

You are right and your observation is correct, looking at some of these big leagues that has a strong level of followership especially the premier League. We have seen the conduct of referees and the way that they approach some certain teams when they are playing. Some referee's have soft spots when it comes to some teams, especially in the premier League league were we have seen different rules apply by different referee's in the same incident involving different teams. This has caused some people to think that some certain teams has preferential treatment over others especially the big teams.

That is a soft word, choosing " soft spot" when in truth, there is a possibility that this referee is bought.

It is hard to prove whether game corruption happens in big leagues today, but there are history that even big leagues are not safe from game rigs and match fixing.  It is most probable that the corruption is within the higher authority and is actually coordinated by larger groups.  Here is one example of a scandal that occurs in one of the top league : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calciopoli?

[Exitoral]

You are definitely not overthinking this. You just pointed out facts. If big leagues were really manipulated, it would be very possible to cover it up. They have the funds to do it.

Another point is that they can cover it up because it is easier to hide something in plain sight than shoving it under a bed. Whether we like it or not, corruption is in every corner. You just have to look closely enough.

[Charcol]

You are right and your observation is correct, looking at some of these big leagues that has a strong level of followership especially the premier League. We have seen the conduct of referees and the way that they approach some certain teams when they are playing. Some referee's have soft spots when it comes to some teams, especially in the premier League league were we have seen different rules apply by different referee's in the same incident involving different teams. This has caused some people to think that some certain teams has preferential treatment over others especially the big teams.

Fans often consider the referee's wrong decisions as deliberate bias. But we have seen many times that in football, the referee has to make many such decisions within a few seconds. It is normal to make mistakes. But fans are so devoted to their favorite team that they take it to the level of controversial criticism. However, it is true that controversial decisions are more discussed in the matches of big teams. Especially when a penalty is given in one match but not in another match in the same incident. Then everyone's suspicions arise. And especially those who watch games or bet regularly notice these things quickly.

[Dunamisx]

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?

It all depends on the kind of settings double put in place, which may permit for manipulation or resist such because there are some sports activities that are being done on a transparent platform and does not permit for anything beyond what people can see and apply judgment on their own, you can't be watching a live match and expect any unforeseen circumstances to happen when there is no need for it.

[Silikiem]

You are definitely not overthinking this. You just pointed out facts. If big leagues were really manipulated, it would be very possible to cover it up. They have the funds to do it.

Another point is that they can cover it up because it is easier to hide something in plain sight than shoving it under a bed. Whether we like it or not, corruption is in every corner. You just have to look closely enough.

This corruption isn’t only about big leagues or perhaps the bigger teams but this issue sometimes gets to what most football fans now refers to as home advantage. There are some scenarios where a host club or country gets more favour from officials in charge of the game, in some major tournaments there have been some notable controversial decisions where you start questioning the officials. But then sports especially football now also have it’s business side of it and you never can rule out the possibility of some bias decisions or outcomes in most games.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

There is corruption in every walk of life so I don’t think it’s crazy to suggest that there are for example, bent referees in top level sport.

The difficulty is proving it but it would not surprise me one bit. Barcelona were charged for paying referees not all that long ago.

[rachael9385]

I don't really think there is too much match fixing going on in the bigger leagues.
It would be much easier to fix a match in a lower tier league that doesn't have nearly any many people watching.

My thoughts exactly, a lot of eyes are not the big leagues which makes it very hard for them to do anything that has to do with match fixing. One thing about this is that even though it goes on in lower divisions we wouldn't even know about it,we cannot actually tell that a match was rigged, a lot of times this is just based on assumptions.

[Miles2006]

I don't think that big leagues can manipulate the result of a live match when there's VAR to call him to order.

VAR is another problem, they always make people feel the opposite of what they’re doing like sometimes my thought is correct based on their judgement. Referee is another factor, commonly referees are the most talked about whenever the match is not right and yet VAR stays and watch.
I don’t think big leagues script matches, if this is true I’m sure we all would be aware and definitely stop betting because it becomes very difficult to place bet and expect a win when clearly there’s a control over the league but, the situation is different obviously we get to win too.

[Btcdeybodi]

And if someone already knows what is likely to happen, then ordinary bettors are just playing a game they can never really win.

No matter how they try to manipulate the outcome of a match, some gamblers will still win because it must fall on someone's prediction even if it is a fixed match. When a big match is manipulated, it will affect most bettors but not all of them. Big leagues are not totally clean from match fixing but they happen rarely because of the severe penalty when caught.

[Orpichukwu]

Those rich people who are controlling everything is already making billions of dollars from streaming the sports, from the ticket sales, and everything so their best interest should be to keep it much more exciting so that the viewership will go up and so their revenue. We keep connecting sports betting along with sports, but that is completely unnecessary. There may be players, managers, or someone from the sports who might be involved in it but the whole sport can't be staged.

Those rich dudes know how to be making money and are benefiting so much that they are not supposed to be thinking about things that could jeopardize their chance of keeping that money coming, so the chances of them getting involved in such practices are slim, but then we still can't neglect the fact that human greed is on another level; only a few know how to control it.

[IjawMan]

We can not lie about it by denying the underlying truth that everything can never be clean under a big industry like football where big bucks of cash flows in from Investors. You can not tell me they do not have a stake to protect in some matches in a full season of the league.

It is how organised this big leagues are that what makes them mirrored as leagues that are without deliberately altered matches in the results. It may not be one too many but this fixing of matches do play there also.

[Findingnemo]

Those rich people who are controlling everything is already making billions of dollars from streaming the sports, from the ticket sales, and everything so their best interest should be to keep it much more exciting so that the viewership will go up and so their revenue. We keep connecting sports betting along with sports, but that is completely unnecessary. There may be players, managers, or someone from the sports who might be involved in it but the whole sport can't be staged.

Those rich dudes know how to be making money and are benefiting so much that they are not supposed to be thinking about things that could jeopardize their chance of keeping that money coming, so the chances of them getting involved in such practices are slim, but then we still can't neglect the fact that human greed is on another level; only a few know how to control it.

I am sure the rich people we are talking about knows the importance of long term results over one time thing and they wants everything to be perfect, then only they keep on making money round the clock a year with different things regarding the same sports and for that they need the sports to be fair, highly competitive and popular. So they would want the team to fight for their life to get the results that brings them more ratings.

[blockman]

You are right and your observation is correct, looking at some of these big leagues that has a strong level of followership especially the premier League. We have seen the conduct of referees and the way that they approach some certain teams when they are playing. Some referee's have soft spots when it comes to some teams, especially in the premier League league were we have seen different rules apply by different referee's in the same incident involving different teams. This has caused some people to think that some certain teams has preferential treatment over others especially the big teams.

That doesn't only happen in the premier league but also with other sports and leagues, there are referees who's got some soft spots too. But giving them the benefit of the doubt because there can be some certain angles that they don't see and that's why they're calling what they see, and not the others that they don't see for some penalties. It gives the fans that thought that many of them are being bought and paid by these teams that they're very favorable with. Yet, as I am saying, it's better to give them the benefit of the doubt even if it's very obvious. 

[Insanity]

Those rich people who are controlling everything is already making billions of dollars from streaming the sports, from the ticket sales, and everything so their best interest should be to keep it much more exciting so that the viewership will go up and so their revenue. We keep connecting sports betting along with sports, but that is completely unnecessary. There may be players, managers, or someone from the sports who might be involved in it but the whole sport can't be staged.

Those rich dudes know how to be making money and are benefiting so much that they are not supposed to be thinking about things that could jeopardize their chance of keeping that money coming, so the chances of them getting involved in such practices are slim, but then we still can't neglect the fact that human greed is on another level; only a few know how to control it.

I am sure the rich people we are talking about knows the importance of long term results over one time thing and they wants everything to be perfect, then only they keep on making money round the clock a year with different things regarding the same sports and for that they need the sports to be fair, highly competitive and popular. So they would want the team to fight for their life to get the results that brings them more ratings.

I think that it's important for the long-term health of the big leagues to be credible, competitive. Assuming that the results are scripted or manipulated, viewership and sponsorships, as well as overall trust, would eventually decrease. However, as with all things, there is a possibility of individual incidents involving players, referees or officials even if a league is not held, given that there is always someone with an agenda of their own. No system is totally free from corruption. The appeal of big leagues is that most games are truly competitive; safeguarding that integrity is worth more than anything to short-term gain through manipulation.

[Muba20]

We can not lie about it by denying the underlying truth that everything can never be clean under a big industry like football where big bucks of cash flows in from Investors. You can not tell me they do not have a stake to protect in some matches in a full season of the league.

It is how organised this big leagues are that what makes them mirrored as leagues that are without deliberately altered matches in the results. It may not be one too many but this fixing of matches do play there also.

Various incidents of match fixing around sports often occur, but although there are specific reasons for some match fixing, in most cases there is no truth to it. Big football events naturally involve a lot of money., which is why there may be incidents like fixing the results of some matches. These issues do not come to the public. From a natural perspective, it can be seen that considering the large organization and various expenses of football, there can certainly be some irregularities, but it is not always like this. If some kind of manipulation is done in one or two matches out of many, no one will ever understand it. If no clear allegations are proven, then there is no scope for alleging match-fixing in that league.

[IjawMan]

We can not lie about it by denying the underlying truth that everything can never be clean under a big industry like football where big bucks of cash flows in from Investors. You can not tell me they do not have a stake to protect in some matches in a full season of the league.

It is how organised this big leagues are that what makes them mirrored as leagues that are without deliberately altered matches in the results. It may not be one too many but this fixing of matches do play there also.

Various incidents of match fixing around sports often occur, but although there are specific reasons for some match fixing, in most cases there is no truth to it. Big football events naturally involve a lot of money., which is why there may be incidents like fixing the results of some matches. These issues do not come to the public. From a natural perspective, it can be seen that considering the large organization and various expenses of football, there can certainly be some irregularities, but it is not always like this. If some kind of manipulation is done in one or two matches out of many, no one will ever understand it. If no clear allegations are proven, then there is no scope for alleging match-fixing in that league.

There must be reasons for every actions taken on any thing but the reason is not particularly what matters but the impact of that action on the consumers of the product.

In this branch the sports bettors are the consumers and match fixing do really impact negatively on their finance they used to gamble and in extension to their psychological health,

how they get to feel after betting on this fixed matches unaware to them and have it in loss from what they had made in predictions cause some group of organized people in charge for some reasons have decided to manipulate the order of the match result.