How clean are the big leagues really?

[CryptSafe]

OP, thank you for those instances you have given. I have come to realise that no sector of the economy is void of corruption even in the sports industry too. There have been reported cases of fixed matches not limited to just football alone, other sports too also have their own fair share of the experience as well. The big players, the cartel for instance when Escobar scored an own goal unknowingly which caused their team to loose that game what happened to him days after. Was it not rumoured that the cartels who gamed the match killed him? So I can not say that big leagues are clean, they are even likely worse of them all because the cartel takes advantage of it because of the multitudes

Corruption is everywhere and many of the government officials are corrupted and we may not really know because their corruption cases have not been released. The heart of human is wicked and we should not be decieved about those claims that the politicians and the people at the top are less corrupt. Some of these people are wealthy but will not mind to make more illegal money to add up to what they have.

Indeed, there are corrupt officials even they already have lots of money they still involved with corruption, they are not satisfied with what they've got and they wanted to add more, and it's not by far that gambling activities are at they radar so even how big or small the league was if there's corruption that take place we may hear issues with manipulation or game fixing activities, as money dictates something that a person can't resist.

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

[Issa56]

Indeed, there are corrupt officials even they already have lots of money they still involved with corruption, they are not satisfied with what they've got and they wanted to add more, and it's not by far that gambling activities are at they radar so even how big or small the league was if there's corruption that take place we may hear issues with manipulation or game fixing activities, as money dictates something that a person can't resist.

No matter how wealthy people are, they are never satisfied, and most of them are just going to involve themselves in illegal activities just because they want to increase the money which they are having, and it doesn’t make sense. You don’t have to involve yourself in illegal activities just because you want to make money. There are legal ways which you can increase your wealth, why making use of illegal ways.

I haven’t heard about all those irregularities in big leagues, but maybe they might be happening, but we will always see it as something normal. We haven’t seen any evidence that all those things are happening so we can’t accuse them. I know if they going to be doing all those things, then it’s going to be hidden because they know what it’s going to cause.

[Slimzeee]

I sincerely believe that one or two games can be fixed somehow in a football season, but it wouldn’t be more than that. Think of it this way: footballers are humans like you and me. They want to attain glory, collect trophies, and win a lot along the way. These are individual demands, and there’s no way they will let someone decide how they should play against their opponents all the time just because they want to fix matches for money.
How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

[Jubilee58]

Even the big leagues are not totally clean as you can see complaints coming from every corner like the teams involved. There is one thing we should understand, in football, the match officials might have a favourite player, or a special interest on a particular team, this interest might be open or not which can make a match official to favour a particular team. There are times when match official can be suspended because of bad officiating, and favouring a team to win a match, there are also times when some top players are being honoured on the pitch as any close marking against them can be regarded as fowl play.

In nutshell, big leagues are not without their lapses, and are not entirely without favouritism.

[Russlenat]

Introducing rich peoples.into sport betting can be dangerous at times, it's better we leave things the way they are because it can be hijacked by one particular big man and that is where the problem comes in which will now be less interesting because of some sole rules and regulations that will be introduced that will not go down well with gambler, more or less a sole proprietorship.

Sorry dude, but it seems like you are not reading the OP. The context is about possible rigging, and now you are talking about introducing it to rich people? Please read it first if you have not yet so you can stop posting nonsense.

This is a relevant discussion, especially for serious bettors who want to win in betting.

[Orpichukwu]

There is no proof yet; if there was enough evidence to prove that the big league bet themselves involved in things like that, no matter their reputation, it can't be swept under the carpet forever. It will be shown to the public, which will make them lose credibility, and that's why any of them who are into any of those fixing shit will do it quietly and professionally so that there is no trace left.

No prove can be given of what you don't have evidence to tender as backup to claims but we all that watches these games knows that shits do happen from the backroom but it's just that the elite leagues are good in covering their tracks and making every game looking professional to the core that nobody would be able to call it a fixed game. Those unfamiliar and unpopular "hinter" leagues doesn't know how well professional to do it as the elites that's why they always get busted seeming as though it's prevalent only with them.

No evidence, and watching alone without evidence, you can't even make the allegations public, and talking about the small leagues, which also refers to the unpopular ones, I don't see them as not knowing how to get it done, but they are set and don't have the power, or because they are small, they could easily be suspected since they are seen to still be seeking funding in anyway possible, not like the big league that gets funding from all around.

[Tungbulu]

I sincerely believe that one or two games can be fixed somehow in a football season, but it wouldn’t be more than that. Think of it this way: footballers are humans like you and me. They want to attain glory, collect trophies, and win a lot along the way. These are individual demands, and there’s no way they will let someone decide how they should play against their opponents all the time just because they want to fix matches for money.
How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

Although, they can also make mistakes as they are human also and they can't be pleasing the fans and forget about their own ambition, people who don't understand them might think its pride or something else, but don't know they also have their own desires which they need to accomplish as well. And in football, you can really bride one person, if they want that team to favour them and players can't be controlled also, as they also will have to put their best to satisfy themselves by gaining more respect and love from other people.

[l99l]

To be honest, I prefer betting on Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Portuguese League, and Turkish League games because there's a huge skill difference between the top teams compared to the teams below them. This means the top teams don't even need to pay money to the lower-ranked teams to win; with their skilled players, they easily beat the teams below them. But in the second and third divisions, things are different, so there's possibly more corruption in the lower leagues.

Lower leagues have no chance, and it's much easier to commit fraud, and it happens.
Top leagues are cleaner, and there's a higher level of competition. There might have been some irregularities in some matches that we don't know about, but I think these are very rare. That's why I don't have many reservations when betting in the leagues you mentioned. I'm just curious about the match and whether my bet is correct, that's all.

[Cantsay]

I sincerely believe that one or two games can be fixed somehow in a football season, but it wouldn’t be more than that. Think of it this way: footballers are humans like you and me. They want to attain glory, collect trophies, and win a lot along the way. These are individual demands, and there’s no way they will let someone decide how they should play against their opponents all the time just because they want to fix matches for money.
How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

This was the same idea I had before I came across an article about a player who was caught taking part in match fixing. Before then, I had always thought that it was all just a rumour because of the salaries these players receive every month.

These players are extremely wealthy, and yet they are still involved in this whole shitty scheme. This player got banned from playing for his country. I really can't recall the name of the player, but I think it was from Japan. The federation's top dog was also involved in the whole scheme.

[Dump3er]

I just had this thought because of what is happening in our country and probably in many other places too.

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?

I am not saying every game is fixed, but it is hard not to question it. These big leagues already make money from tickets, ads, sponsors, TV rights and all that. Then you add sports betting, which is a huge market too. Maybe even bigger than what most people think.

So what if some people behind the league are not really honest? What stops them from influencing officials or certain calls in the game? Not even the whole game needs to be fixed. Sometimes one call, one foul, one penalty, or one bad decision can already affect the spread, total score, or result.

And if someone already knows what is likely to happen, then ordinary bettors are just playing a game they can never really win.

That is why I also think maybe smaller markets are not always bad. Maybe games that do not attract too much public money are less interesting for big people to manipulate. I am not sure if that is the right way to think about it, but it kind of makes sense to me.

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

I think it is the other way around. The big leagues that make a lot of money from all kinds of licensing and broadcasting and merch and what not, they have far more to lose if it becomes known that fixing matches is done. They would have strong reasons to prevent that from happening.

In smaller leagues there is a strong financial incentive to fix matches. It is the same in tennis, a top player would almost never have a good financial incentive to accept money for fixing matches. They would lose more than they would win.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

The sad reality is they aren't as clean as we think. Every now and then at least we get cases of match-fixing, or at least we get to know some of the truth several years later. There is a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know

Remember the Serie A match-fixing saga? The same can happen to any top league in the world, so I wouldn't be surprised if it ever did.

[PX-Z]

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

If it is related to match fixing, I actually think that smaller leagues have a higher chance of fixing. This is also related to promotion to higher leagues. 
Big leagues also have the potential for fixing, but this is more closely watched by many people. 
I don't think about this matter too seriously. I will still gamble with small amounts of money, even though there is a possibility of match fixing happening.

Yes, that's possible, and most probably is. Smaller competitions and leagues, fixing is too rampant due to influence of other officiating officers or directors who have big influence on the organizations. While the bigger ones are so hard from the boards of directors, it will go down to refs and players/team who were sometimes paid to do so, or just their personal interest or whatever.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I sincerely believe that one or two games can be fixed somehow in a football season, but it wouldn’t be more than that. Think of it this way: footballers are humans like you and me. They want to attain glory, collect trophies, and win a lot along the way. These are individual demands, and there’s no way they will let someone decide how they should play against their opponents all the time just because they want to fix matches for money.
How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

I do not think there is any thing like one or two games getting fixed in a football season on any international leagues, if you are talking about local leagues, then I will agree with you because in most countries, local league football players and managers are mostly hungry people who may easily be tempted into accepting cash offers from clubs that are wealthier to allow the club win the match.

But on international league football, I honestly do not think such is possible because how are you going to use to bribe a big football club that such club dont already have? It definitely be better for the management to spend that money on getting better and quality players than try to use the money to bribe another club, this is why I don't believe there is any such thing as match fixing in international level football leagues of today.

[Wakate]

I sincerely believe that one or two games can be fixed somehow in a football season, but it wouldn’t be more than that. Think of it this way: footballers are humans like you and me. They want to attain glory, collect trophies, and win a lot along the way. These are individual demands, and there’s no way they will let someone decide how they should play against their opponents all the time just because they want to fix matches for money.
How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

Fixed games do occur and that is one of the ways football clubs make their money without caring about their fans if they are going to feel worried or lost money on their bets. There is no way football can be assumed to be clean from fixed games and other manipulation that can make a game end in the opposite outcome. As gamblers, we need to be smart when choosing a team that will win in a match.

[Fredomago]

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

Indeed, those who are involve to this kind of activities even how rich they are greed continue to keeps them to want more, and since they see venues where money can flow, they'll do such and find those people who involve to whatever sports that they can offer to manipulate, we never know who's part of it as every single position around can do their part and have an impact to facilatate to get the outcome that they've plan to execute.

[r_victory]

It's difficult to know, easy to speculate. We know that corruption is present in all sectors and layers of society; therefore, we have a vague idea that it could be in leagues regardless of their size. Unfortunately, for many of the people involved, money can talk louder. There's always something to be suspicious about.

[libert19]

I think right answer is — we don't know. But, I'd give big leagues benefit of doubt and prefer to bet on 'em compared to small leagues thinking that manipulation should be there less likely to be and if there is — the millions of spectators, cameras and whatever else should be able to catch it.

[Wakate]

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

Indeed, those who are involve to this kind of activities even how rich they are greed continue to keeps them to want more, and since they see venues where money can flow, they'll do such and find those people who involve to whatever sports that they can offer to manipulate, we never know who's part of it as every single position around can do their part and have an impact to facilatate to get the outcome that they've plan to execute.

Greed to make more money when you are already rich through illegals means is what has been causing so many corruption cases in different leagues and most of these officials do think that they do the wrong thing and escape getting caught in the act.
When the head is corrupt, there is no way its not going to affect the body that constitute the head.

[Onyeeze]

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

Indeed, those who are involve to this kind of activities even how rich they are greed continue to keeps them to want more, and since they see venues where money can flow, they'll do such and find those people who involve to whatever sports that they can offer to manipulate, we never know who's part of it as every single position around can do their part and have an impact to facilatate to get the outcome that they've plan to execute.

Greed to make more money when you are already rich through illegals means is what has been causing so many corruption cases in different leagues and most of these officials do think that they do the wrong thing and escape getting caught in the act.
When the head is corrupt, there is no way its not going to affect the body that constitute the head.

sometimes we Are the One that causes corruption because most of us will see when things are going wrong and they refuse to come against the corruption immediately, that is why we don't have to blame anybody because if you are trying to figure out or stop corruption it will be difficult for us due to many people is interested to continue to be rich and the some who are not Rich is interested to be rich in all miss, what you said I agree with you that greediness is one of the things that made people to be corruption in all sectors of business.

[Dr.Osh]

It's actually absurd to say that major leagues can cheat. They don't even sell tickets cheaply; they certainly provide matches worth watching, with genuine sportsmanship. And I'm sure the major leagues aren't just new to organizing sports matches. They are very experienced and maintain the trust of their fans.