How clean are the big leagues really?

[impulse709]

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

Indeed, those who are involve to this kind of activities even how rich they are greed continue to keeps them to want more, and since they see venues where money can flow, they'll do such and find those people who involve to whatever sports that they can offer to manipulate, we never know who's part of it as every single position around can do their part and have an impact to facilatate to get the outcome that they've plan to execute.

Greed to make more money when you are already rich through illegals means is what has been causing so many corruption cases in different leagues and most of these officials do think that they do the wrong thing and escape getting caught in the act.
When the head is corrupt, there is no way its not going to affect the body that constitute the head.

sometimes we Are the One that causes corruption because most of us will see when things are going wrong and they refuse to come against the corruption immediately, that is why we don't have to blame anybody because if you are trying to figure out or stop corruption it will be difficult for us due to many people is interested to continue to be rich and the some who are not Rich is interested to be rich in all miss, what you said I agree with you that greediness is one of the things that made people to be corruption in all sectors of business.

You are correct that there is a lot of greed behind corruption in sport and many other industries. But I also believe that weak accountability and lack of transparency are conducive to the persistence of corruption. It's easier for dishonest individuals to continue to affect. Results for personal gain if fans players. Officials and even governing bodies overlook suspicious activity. Match-fixing, bribery and other incidents can occur even in the highest levels of the major leagues, though not everyone there is corrupt. The key to curbing corruption is robust oversight, equally harsh punishments and an atmosphere in which individuals are happy to report misbehaviour, not be silent.

[CryptSafe]

It's natural that corrupt people are very greedy and would always want to make money the wrong way, hence you could see the corruption in sports and every other sector of the economy. Money really dictates things, which sometimes one can hardly resist, which is why you see people easily get into what they never planned to do because they are being offered what they never envisaged could come their way, and maybe they have not had the opportunity to handle such before, and for the first time they are seeing such, they easily fall for it.

Indeed, those who are involve to this kind of activities even how rich they are greed continue to keeps them to want more, and since they see venues where money can flow, they'll do such and find those people who involve to whatever sports that they can offer to manipulate, we never know who's part of it as every single position around can do their part and have an impact to facilatate to get the outcome that they've plan to execute.

Greed to make more money when you are already rich through illegals means is what has been causing so many corruption cases in different leagues and most of these officials do think that they do the wrong thing and escape getting caught in the act.
When the head is corrupt, there is no way its not going to affect the body that constitute the head.

One thing we should know is that every corrupt head has their cronies and lackies in the system, whom they have already planted to enable them to facilitate their evil crimes in the organisation or whatever structure they find themselves in. They do this so that there would be not much opposition in the system for them. This is how corruption has become so sophisticated that they make sure they plant their henchmen in the system before they assume office or while in power. So football is not exempted as it is so everywhere. This is is the reason why it is difficult to fight corruption.

[Dogedegen]

I just had this thought because of what is happening in our country and probably in many other places too.

Rich people can control the media, politicians, and even some rules, just to protect their business. We see corruption everywhere and in the end it is always the regular people who suffer from it.

So if we connect that idea to sports betting, especially in big leagues where there is so much money involved, can we really say everything is clean?

I am not saying every game is fixed, but it is hard not to question it. These big leagues already make money from tickets, ads, sponsors, TV rights and all that. Then you add sports betting, which is a huge market too. Maybe even bigger than what most people think.

So what if some people behind the league are not really honest? What stops them from influencing officials or certain calls in the game? Not even the whole game needs to be fixed. Sometimes one call, one foul, one penalty, or one bad decision can already affect the spread, total score, or result.

And if someone already knows what is likely to happen, then ordinary bettors are just playing a game they can never really win.

That is why I also think maybe smaller markets are not always bad. Maybe games that do not attract too much public money are less interesting for big people to manipulate. I am not sure if that is the right way to think about it, but it kind of makes sense to me.

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

You need to establish a difference between the type of sports because there are several factors that come into play in something like this. It is easier to corrupt matches in a sport that involves fewer people so 1 on 1 like boxing, than it is to corrupt matches that involves big teams like football with 11 players each. One reason is that it is harder to get everyone to cooperate, and another is that it is harder to keep secrets. So it is not that someone may become a whistleblower intentionally, but with time they will say the wrong things here or there and make someone suspicious. Also if they don't include all the players then others may get suspicious when at some times others start acting differently and misbehaving. While the chance that the lower leagues are more corrupt is much higher, these things happen in big leagues too and they are hiding cases that get caught from you because you may stop watching.

Sadly many people are not brave enough to face the reality of how ruthless it is, they want to believe that things are perfect and innocent but the truth is that at least there is a little corruption in all of these things.

[Grace333]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.  But we sure do know that some persons have engaged themselves in things like that and have faced the penalties so yeah Fifa is against it but do they make other inner circle decision that isn't completely legal to normal person? That i dont know. Since I discovered WWE was a scripted entertainment I just had know not to believe everything i see on a screen.

[Antotena]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.  But we sure do know that some persons have engaged themselves in things like that and have faced the penalties so yeah Fifa is against it but do they make other inner circle decision that isn't completely legal to normal person? That i dont know. Since I discovered WWE was a scripted entertainment I just had know not to believe everything i see on a screen.

I think one of the reason why some players are denied entry into some counties is because of this same issues, there are some players that were denied into Canada because they were found guilty of manipulation of some leagues under this world cup. I can't remember exactly what team was that but it was a goalkeeper. Fifa and other bodies that regulate football hate when leagues are manipulated for obvious reasons and when players are involved.

There is no way that a league will be too clean, even it is clean, there many be some players that are doing an insider bets, it's forbidden by many leagues and I think Fifa hate it but there are many people that are doing it lowkey, making money from their own prediction they set with friends and relatives. Obviously, I don't think the player will be the one to even bet this kind game, they gave it to their pals or make deals that will favour them.

[Nwada001]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.

I don't think players are only banned from betting on games they will participate in; I think the law also extends to both coaches and referees, and at the same time, they might all be restricted from betting on anything football, not just the ones they have access to since they could also have friends and other relations to others playing on other teams.

[Rubuchi]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.  But we sure do know that some persons have engaged themselves in things like that and have faced the penalties so yeah Fifa is against it but do they make other inner circle decision that isn't completely legal to normal person? That i dont know. Since I discovered WWE was a scripted entertainment I just had know not to believe everything i see on a screen.

I know we all are just talking about this from the point of assumption but nobody is certain yet about how some of these things pan out and that’s why I also intended to say what if, what if some officials of the FIFA as also involved in the practice. I know for big teams to try to script a match in favor of one team or the other, there is surely going to be alot of money making in that and it will also mean many people will be involved and will make good money off it. So I won’t be totally surprised if I am told that some FIFA officials are involved in the scandal too.

[Bryan jessy]

Op is talking out of experience I guess, relating it to what is happening currently in our world today, makes it possible anything can be manipulated, so far power is involved that is for people who have the money to make it turn just the way it will benefit them, though we can not for once decide the nature of big leagues, there some big leagues that are still operate without being partial, while some truly do not operate clean. The main reason the rich are getting richer neglecting people who are struggling to succeed, because they have all takes to get it all without doing much. Corruption.

[HelliumZ]

If there is a match-fixing in a club game or a World Cup game, is it actually possible for ordinary bettors like us to catch that match-fixing? If there is a match-fixing, those matches will be done so meticulously and secretly that it is possible for ordinary people to understand. So how will ordinary people like us be able to identify the matches that are fixed in all those clubs? Match-fixing is usually done in secret agreements between the management or players with gambling and casino authorities, which ordinary people like us will never understand. If ordinary people like us could understand, can you imagine what kind of terrible consequences would have been for that club or those players?

[alastantiger]

How much would even be enough to satisfy players when they know that if they win, they have a better shot at their career?

Not every player cares that much about their career, a lot of them are only after the money and that is why they are willing to accept bribe just so some big time cartel drug lords can make profit for the bet that they place on the games this set of players are involved, many times players have been caught partaking in stage games and for those that they have not been caught they are going free without being punished and many others are also thinking that they can also achieve the same fit by partaking in this side bet and getting extra money. Not many players also turn professional to receive the high salaries that the big players are receiving hence some players that are not mainstream will be willing to accept this bribes.

[topbitcoin]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.  But we sure do know that some persons have engaged themselves in things like that and have faced the penalties so yeah Fifa is against it but do they make other inner circle decision that isn't completely legal to normal person? That i dont know. Since I discovered WWE was a scripted entertainment I just had know not to believe everything i see on a screen.

I know we all are just talking about this from the point of assumption but nobody is certain yet about how some of these things pan out and that’s why I also intended to say what if, what if some officials of the FIFA as also involved in the practice. I know for big teams to try to script a match in favor of one team or the other, there is surely going to be alot of money making in that and it will also mean many people will be involved and will make good money off it. So I won’t be totally surprised if I am told that some FIFA officials are involved in the scandal too.

Certainly in this case it would be very difficult to try to verify something like this because even though in soccer it is upholding but I agree with some of the arguments to say not everything is clean.

Cheating can happen anytime and anywhere when there is an opportunity but to prove this is clearly not an easy silver lining because those of us who are only based on assumptions and beliefs will lose with money.
For big leagues, let alone grand periods such as the world cup, it is possible that this is still tricked but with methods that are far more convincing and not even noticed by us ordinary people who are only connoisseurs / spectators.

[rachael9385]

The sad reality is they aren't as clean as we think. Every now and then at least we get cases of match-fixing, or at least we get to know some of the truth several years later. There is a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't know

Remember the Serie A match-fixing saga? The same can happen to any top league in the world, so I wouldn't be surprised if it ever did.

Match fixing is always going to remain a Big problem because it's something that cannot be stopped. People argue about this but it is something that actually goes on in football and it really exists. Most top leagues don't really allow such manipulations but a lot of matches really show that such does exist. There is a lot that goes on that we are not aware of.

[Fredomago]

One thing we should know is that every corrupt head has their cronies and lackies in the system, whom they have already planted to enable them to facilitate their evil crimes in the organisation or whatever structure they find themselves in. They do this so that there would be not much opposition in the system for them. This is how corruption has become so sophisticated that they make sure they plant their henchmen in the system before they assume office or while in power. So football is not exempted as it is so everywhere. This is is the reason why it is difficult to fight corruption.

Indeed, since that as long as there are people behind who's willing to accept bribe money, corruption will continue. Same with what you just said, those who wants to be in control, they will make sure that they will use their money to pinpoint those who are willing to accept and participate to their business, and that's not except anyone or any game, which is possible to happen even in a big league manipulation may happen.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

, sometimes it get one thinking in how the games are being played out, and maybe that is why people are advised to gamble with what they can afford to lose for their own benefit and also they are to have that knowledge that luck gives them the chance to win from gambling and they are not to dispute that fact, as it will make them to have more failures. But, accepting that luck plays the most important part, it will help them to remain insane.

They might not be completely innocent but I do believe that the rate at which this is done is very low compare to the way some of those small league do it, also if any of those big league get themselves involved in match fixing and it gets noticed, they will definitely lose some important deals and people could also cease from taking their bets seriouse because it will be assumed that they are going to rig the match.

[MArsland]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.  But we sure do know that some persons have engaged themselves in things like that and have faced the penalties so yeah Fifa is against it but do they make other inner circle decision that isn't completely legal to normal person? That i dont know. Since I discovered WWE was a scripted entertainment I just had know not to believe everything i see on a screen.

So far, there have been no serious indications of match-fixing in the big European leagues, as FIFA is certainly very thorough in its investigations. If it comes from within FIFA itself, it will be difficult to uncover. But in some lower-tier leagues, match-fixing by teams is common, as these lower-tier leagues rarely attract a large worldwide audience, unlike the top-tier leagues. It's even possible that bribery to gain promotion to the top league can happen-we just can't prove it.
 

[davis196]

That is why I also think maybe smaller markets are not always bad. Maybe games that do not attract too much public money are less interesting for big people to manipulate. I am not sure if that is the right way to think about it, but it kind of makes sense to me.

Am I overthinking this, or do you also think big leagues are not as clean as they want us to believe?

You are not the only one. I've heard many sports bettors complaining about fixed games and games, that ended with suspicious results. Those concerns would remain as long as sports betting exists. I also believe that, when there's lots of money involved, some people would try to break the rules for their own financial gain. The rumors about fixed games are really difficult to be proven, because all the people in the world of professional sports know to keep their mouth shut, because revealing the truth would harm their careers and financial stability.
You can stick to smaller markets and unpopular sports, if you think that they are "cleaner" than the popular sports.

[Dunamisx]

Most of the major leagues do have reputation and wouldn't want to engage on shady acts that could lead to questionable challenge, all we may have to do is to ensure that we play with the expectation of taking a risk so that anything that happened will still go in line with our expectation, this is the only way that we cannot be disappointed by gambling or any of these leagues.

[Cleanshit]

I can't say for sure if those big leagues are clean or not but I know for a fact that Fifa has penalties for anyone caught making those kind of acts and that is why betting against your team or self is prohibited.

I don't think players are only banned from betting on games they will participate in; I think the law also extends to both coaches and referees, and at the same time, they might all be restricted from betting on anything football, not just the ones they have access to since they could also have friends and other relations to others playing on other teams.

Now i don't think very much of them bans on players refs,coaches,  but i know for fact that FiFA codes of Ethics Act 26 which was been said in England from my research says players can't bet individual or indirectly or directly on any football game which i think this should be worldwide already, and it doesn't even matter if it Nigerian leagues or U-15s, or even as far as spending 5$ of fund on betting any game.

And as for the coaches manager i think same code of concept applies to them too well i not even accessible to bet on any websites or platform.

[Italian Panic]

It’s not that the major leagues are necessarily corrupt or open to manipulation, but we must consider the human aspect of the matter, namely that players are human beings and, as such, are capable of making mistakes. Indeed, there are many cases in which players sell matches or compromise their performance, causing their team to lose, or commit a foul, or pick up a yellow or red card.

[Shinpako09]

I understand you because sometimes I also think they are following a script. But if we think about it carefully, it's hard to cheat in major leagues because those involved could face severe fines and even end up in jail.

Maybe what makes us think big leagues aren't clean are the unfavorable calls. But that alone doesn't mean the league isn't clean. Sometimes we also see players perform differently from their usual level, which makes us think they are giving up because of certain bets. Even if referees or players do something that affects the outcome of a match, it doesn't automatically mean the league itself isn't clean.

Sometimes we believe something is rigged simply because the result was unfavorable to us. But what if those same calls benefited our bets? Most likely, we wouldn't think the league wasn't clean. We'd just say it's part of the game.