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June 06, 2026, 04:17:24 PM
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Beginners don't let anyone or any popular figure deceive you.
The simplest thing that anyone can do in this crypto space is proof that they are Satoshi Nakamoto.

It doesn't cost a thing.
Log in to Nakamoto's Bitcointalk account.
Sign messages using Nakamoto's very own Bitcoin wallet address.

People will believe you, atleast start from this, anything apart from these is complete lies, avoid Jack Dorsey, Craig Wright and others, people on here even understand how proof of ownership on bitcoin network works more than them, they are idiots.

If they understood what it means to sign your Bitcoin address as proof of ownership they wouldn't come out claiming to be real Nakamoto, the future is in your hands, do not be fooled.
This is false, I have already explained this in different threats. This is based on past topics and misunderstanding of the time aspect on keys. Neither of the two things that you have written would prove that the person who is doing it is satoshi nakamoto. All of those actions rely on various assumptions for which the chance of invalidity increases through time, and a lot of time has passed so the chance of this has increased dramatically. If I sign a message using Nakamoto's own wallet address, does that mean that I Satofan44 was the persona under the alias satoshi from the past? Even though nothing else resembles satoshi at all?  Roll Eyes What about if I did that and started writing exactly like satoshi used to write, would that mean that I was him?

See, the idea is easily dismissed by a counter example. When you talk about keys:
  • The chance that the person has access to the keys when they are dormant for very long time decrease.
  • The chance that someone else has access to the keys through whatever means increases.
Now we are already at the point where you should doubt anyone who comes forth to be satoshi, including anyone who signs messages from his known addresses or PGP keys or whatever -- because all of these rely on a trust-based assumption, instead of using a zero-trust model. If we reach a situation where private keys can be derived from public keys, then at that point satoshi is 100% not provable anymore. LLMs enable someone to write exactly like satoshi did and spoof other metrics, quantum computers could eventually enable someone to compromise all his known keys.


Therefore, learn from the basics of Bitcoin. Do not trust, verify. Verifying a signature that relies on a trust assumption goes against this concept. All of these ridiculous ideas are a relic of the old world where faking things was incredibly hard, you need to let go of the false ideas and embrace the world that we live in. Faking most things is very easy. While you can't fake the signatures or the keys, you can get access to them in various other ways and situations -- depending on who it was, how they were stored, what happened to the person and the keys and so forth.

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June 06, 2026, 04:28:16 PM
Last edit: June 06, 2026, 04:44:08 PM by Fiatless
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I know this is exclusive to Satoshi account because he cannot obviously sell off his account to another person and yes should anyone be able to actually sign a message from the famous Satoshi bitcoin address which holds the 1 million plus bitcoin I think it will be hard to actually not believe that such person is the real Satoshi.

But aside Satoshi now, I think like this forum signing of message from an address is not even regarded again as the ultimate ownership proof anymore because account sellers now usually even give the buyer the access to sign this messages on that address either handing over the keys of the address to them or doing it for them. So using addressing signing message now as a proof of ownership this days is very subjective to the person in question
I don't think Satoshi will sell their wallet, so I doubt that using the forum rules as an example is accurate. The forum took that further step because of account seller/buyers. If anybody signs a signature from the Bitcoin Wallet of Satoshi, there will be a high chance that they will be Satoshi. Signing signature is the universal proof that you have access to a wallet. Although it might not be the benchmark for ownership of account in bitcointalk.

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June 06, 2026, 04:40:23 PM
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If they understood what it means to sign your Bitcoin address as proof of ownership they wouldn't come out claiming to be real Nakamoto, the future is in your hands, do not be fooled.

There is no more proof than the proof you mentioned here, if Satoshi Nakamoto is the right person, he is the only one who can sign the Bitcoin address message. And he can provide more unique proof. If the wrong person claims to be Satoshi Nakamoto, then he will be proven wrong in the first step. And there is more proof.
Bitcoin must be transferred from the original address. If he can follow these steps correctly, then he is the only Satoshi person, everything else is wrong. This is the only correct strategy to prove Satoshi, if beginners follow this strategy, they will never face danger.

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June 06, 2026, 07:01:26 PM
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It's hard for newbies or fomo to ignore and not notice some NPD people claiming to be satoshi because there are always people who fall for them and think some of the fictitious things they say are true.

Satoshi has decided not to show his identity and I feel that this will remain the case for a long time to come and with Satoshi having made that decision we know that some NPD claiming to be Satoshi is something that will be considered ridiculous but there are still some newbies who try to believe it.

Furthermore, there are those who always believe the words of influencers more than anything else and some are even willing to pay quite a lot of money to attend influencer classes whose teachings are in fact only to boast and benefit the influencers themselves.
Don't make our fate in bitcoin a gambling arena by relying on other parties because we are here responsible for the money we spend in bitcoin we should ourselves make absolute decisions not other parties let alone influencers.

 
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June 06, 2026, 07:23:08 PM
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This is for those who claim to be who they are not "Satoshi". Someone can't eat the glory of who they are not without proving it. People need to see proof in every little detail of what makes the world bubble.

Nowadays, the high rate of people who claim to be Satoshi has reduced significantly since they are now asked to sign a message with the Satoshi wallet address. This is what fits them, for thinking we will be delusional to believe them to be Satoshi just like that.

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June 06, 2026, 07:46:23 PM
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Even if the real Satoshi came back for real with all the proof, still it doesn't chane a thing, you should not be manipulated, that is also another aspect of being in a decentralized system. Just take your decisions on your own whether it is about buying or selling your bitcoin or whatever you want to do with it.

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Today at 10:27:32 AM
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Even his bitcointalk account is no longer as it can be compromised at any point of time.
The one and only way to verify Satoshi's identity would be his bitcoin address.
One signed message from his bitcoin address is enough evidence to prove the ownership of his identity.
Anyone else trying to prove using any other method is just in vain and cannot be trusted.
His Bitcoin addresses or more exactly Bitcoin private keys are not the only way to prove his identity. There is PGP key from Satoshi Nakamoto which can be used to sign a message and prove his identity if he returns and wants to announce as well as confirm it.

It's how he can prove his identity, and it's what we assume he will do if he returns, though his return is a very big conspiracy theory that is impossible in my opinion. Each year passes, the chance for a comeback of Satoshi return becomes smaller as who knows if the Bitcoin founder already passed away some time and some how in the past or in the future.

Yeah, a PGP key is also a valid way to verify someone's identity but in case of Satoshi there is no PGP key that is publicly recognized and accepted by the community.
So it would be better to consider Satoshi's early bitcoin addresses to verify his ownership and let him sign a message from his bitcoin address.
This would be simple yet a secure way to verify his identity. That said, even I feel sometimes that may be he has passed away since he never tried to show his presence after 2010.

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