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[Rating Place]

The players want me in there to help them. I ask them after 3 weeks.

There's no evidence that the players want you there. You're like a shady lawyer hanging around the scene of an accident, waiting to ask the victim if they want to sue the paramedics as they're being loaded onto an ambulance.

Just stay out. It’s none of your business. No one wants you there.

You're just repeating back to me what I've been saying to you... That's not much of a counterargument.

Look at all the people that say you lie and give false trust.

Yeah I noticed you pasted my untrusted feedback for the 4th or 5th time. All it shows is:

1. You don't understand how the trust system works, and
2. You have no clue who your audience is here.

The way the system works is you bully non DTs because you think it doesn’t count. There are 8 pages of screen shots of how you lie about others.

I have PMs and telegram proof of players wanting help. No player told me to leave. Why are you there trolling me when you don’t understand sports betting.

I normally don't post PMs but can't get a hold of him and it's innocent.



Then we went telegram and he asked me to post in the thread.


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[holydarkness]

The way the system works is you bully non DTs because you think it doesn’t count. There are 8 pages of screen shots of how you lie about others.

I have PMs and telegram proof of players wanting help. No player told me to leave. Why are you there trolling me when you don’t understand sports betting.

I normally don't post PMs but can't get a hold of him and it's innocent.
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PMs in this forum are usually perceived as privileged conversation where the content is confident between both messengers. That is why I didn't post what you PMed me after you didn't give permission for it to be displayed for public. Even if the content is also rather innocent if we see it from a vantage point before these matter escalated. There is a reason it called Personal Message.

And...

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So yes, I would prefer for holydarkness to return as mediator, if the objective now is to finally reach a conclusion and decision on the case, because this situation has already dragged on long enough.

You've been dismissed, yet you pitched in and derail the extend of the conversation with match fixing allegation that wasn't the case in the first place.

Do you see now that you do more harm than good?

Also, just to give you a vivid image of how detrimental your presence is on the SA that I think justifies nutildah's thread,

Glad to hear that BetPanda overruled the flag that you saw.

know that just because you can't hold the urge to be the last one speaking, you've pushed a casino away from our forum for good, and totally derailed our [by "our", I mean me and my contact, you're excluded] work to get players what would be theirs, suppose you can just control that urge a tad bit.

We were all good, until that unnecessary comment arise and enraged the high table of the casino that they deemed the approach [that my contact and I need weeks to establish]. Suppose you didn't throw unnecessary comments, things will still flow as we designed.

Now you know. I hope that's a vivid image enough of how detrimental your presence is.

[Rating Place]

The way the system works is you bully non DTs because you think it doesn’t count. There are 8 pages of screen shots of how you lie about others.

I have PMs and telegram proof of players wanting help. No player told me to leave. Why are you there trolling me when you don’t understand sports betting.

I normally don't post PMs but can't get a hold of him and it's innocent.
[...]

PMs in this forum are usually perceived as privileged conversation where the content is confident between both messengers. That is why I didn't post what you PMed me after you didn't give permission for it to be displayed for public. Even if the content is also rather innocent if we see it from a vantage point before these matter escalated. There is a reason it called Personal Message.

And...

[...]
So yes, I would prefer for holydarkness to return as mediator, if the objective now is to finally reach a conclusion and decision on the case, because this situation has already dragged on long enough.

You've been dismissed, yet you pitched in and derail the extend of the conversation with match fixing allegation that wasn't the case in the first place.

Do you see now that you do more harm than good?

Also, just to give you a vivid image of how detrimental your presence is on the SA that I think justifies nutildah's thread,

Glad to hear that BetPanda overruled the flag that you saw.

know that just because you can't hold the urge to be the last one speaking, you've pushed a casino away from our forum for good, and totally derailed our [by "our", I mean me and my contact, you're excluded] work to get players what would be theirs, suppose you can just control that urge a tad bit.

We were all good, until that unnecessary comment arise and enraged the high table of the casino that they deemed the approach [that my contact and I need weeks to establish]. Suppose you didn't throw unnecessary comments, things will still flow as we designed.

Now you know. I hope that's a vivid image enough of how detrimental your presence is.

You and Nutildah stop people from getting paid. That's why they PM me. You left the Shuffle case when you realized the player was innocent. You rule for sportsbooks all the time. We were able to overturn Shuffle, XYes, BetPanda and more even though you ruled for the sportsbook. Admitting to being swayed by money (sig) in the Betpanda case said it all.

edit- The player wanted me to do the arbitration. I told him that holy won't accept my ruling since you signed the binding contract. I told him to go with you.

[nutildah]

RP is completely impervious to reason and logic. When he doesn't know what to say, he just falls back on the same argument which has been debunked countless times.

There's no point in continuing to engage with him other than to remind newbies that he's not a reasonable person and heeding his advice could be costly.

[Rating Place]

RP is completely impervious to reason and logic. When he doesn't know what to say, he just falls back on the same argument which has been debunked countless times.

There's no point in continuing to engage with him other than to remind newbies that he's not a reasonable person and heeding his advice could be costly.

You say that no one asked for me to get in threads. You lied because I can show you tons of proof. I try to help and you tell people not to listen. No one loses money because of me. They lose money because of you and holy. It’s criminal what you guys are doing. You started fake trust and flags to hurt people getting paid. Everything in your accusation is a lie.

The question is why does holy keep backing sportsbooks. Why do you support his actions when he states a book can steal winnings.

[nutildah]

You say that no one asked for me to get in threads. You lied because I can show you tons of proof.

Alright, let's see it then.

Better yet, ask one of these people to post here in your defense, because not a single person has, so far.

[Rating Place]

You say that no one asked for me to get in threads. You lied because I can show you tons of proof.

Alright, let's see it then.

Better yet, ask one of these people to post here in your defense, because not a single person has, so far.

I showed you PMs without names. You’ll give them negative trust if I post their name. They ask because they know I can help present their case. Some are new and don’t know how defend themselves against you, holy and the sportsbook. It’s 3 on 1.

Why do so many non DTs give you negative trust?

[nutildah]

I showed you PMs without names. You’ll give them negative trust if I post their name. They ask because they know I can help present their case. Some are new and don’t know how defend themselves against you, holy and the sportsbook. It’s 3 on 1.

None of them asked you to post in any thread. And no, of course you're wrong about that, I wouldn't red tag a victim just because they support you. That would be abuse of the trust system.

[Rating Place]

I showed you PMs without names. You’ll give them negative trust if I post their name. They ask because they know I can help present their case. Some are new and don’t know how defend themselves against you, holy and the sportsbook. It’s 3 on 1.

None of them asked you to post in any thread. And no, of course you're wrong about that, I wouldn't red tag a victim just because they support you. That would be abuse of the trust system.

You are the biggest abuser of the trust system. I showed you PMs and you think the guys didn’t ask me to post. If I show you a PM where I asked the Shuffle person if he wanted me to leave the thread or keep posting and he said keep posting, would you take down your false trust and flag?

[nutildah]

You are the biggest abuser of the trust system.

You know, just because you say things, it doesn't make them true. I know you truly think you're winning some optics battle of hearts & minds here. I just don't understand how its possible.

I showed you PMs and you think the guys didn’t ask me to post.

They didn't ask in the PMs you posted.

If I show you a PM where I asked the Shuffle person if he wanted me to leave the thread or keep posting and he said keep posting, would you take down your false trust and flag?

Absolutely not.

[Rating Place]

You are the biggest abuser of the trust system.

You know, just because you say things, it doesn't make them true. I know you truly think you're winning some optics battle of hearts & minds here. I just don't understand how its possible.

I showed you PMs and you think the guys didn’t ask me to post.

They didn't ask in the PMs you posted.

If I show you a PM where I asked the Shuffle person if he wanted me to leave the thread or keep posting and he said keep posting, would you take down your false trust and flag?

Absolutely not.

Exactly, you just want to keep lying and say no one wanted me in the thread. They wanted me in to help. 8 screen shots where many accused you of lying. I know 100% you lied. False flag and you don’t want evidence that it’s false.

[nutildah]

Producing a single screenshot that actually says what you claim it says isn't going to sway my opinion at this point.

None of the screenshots you posted (so far) even imply that someone wants you to post in a thread. They are just asking you for advice. You'd be much better just giving advice to people than trying to make a name for yourself by constantly shitting on badmouthing HD.

[Rating Place]

Producing a single screenshot that actually says what you claim it says isn't going to sway my opinion at this point.

None of the screenshots you posted (so far) even imply that someone wants you to post in a thread. They are just asking you for advice. You'd be much better just giving advice to people than trying to make a name for yourself by constantly shitting on badmouthing HD.

I don't want to make a name for myself. Your thinking is strange which is why you misjudge so much.

 The problem is that you don’t understand it and why people aren’t getting paid.

1. These bad sportsbooks steal money for things such as value betting and arbitrage betting.
2. Holy feels flags without proof give the sportsbook an excuse to steal winnings.
3. Deposits get returned but the sportsbook gets a discounted price.
4. You praise holy darkness for forcing a player to prove his innocence so both winnings and deposits are being stolen which is done at times.
5. Bets are won or lost. There’s no negotiating to get a discount price or interrogation so that the book doesn’t have to pay.
6. The book makes an allegation. Then the book has to prove the allegation or the player gets both winnings and deposits.
7. A scam is being run.

8.  A person can’t just give advice. Someone needs to get in there to disprove the lies being posted by sportsbooks. We have to show why gambling wise their allegations make no sense.