Pretty surprising how little internet you need to run the forum.

[libert19]

Yep, it does require little, whenever my net runs slow, I surf this forum since I can't waste my time on YT anymore, unfortunately I didn't think to create topic for the same since this experience is deffo content worthy but good on you.

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Nevertheless the pretty funny thing is constantly using 5G or 4G barely makes you see a difference in speed but switching up to 2G you'll definitely get a very smooth experience on the forum regardless of page length and even if images are embedded or not. You should try it out
Fun fact; just for the fun of it I literally published this post with 2G and I think I'm gonna keep it for a while lol.

Disagreeed with this though. Difference is obvious to me, especially when loading images.

[PX-Z]

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Nevertheless the pretty funny thing is constantly using 5G or 4G barely makes you see a difference in speed but switching up to 2G you'll definitely get a very smooth experience on the forum regardless of page length and even if images are embedded or not. You should try it out
Fun fact; just for the fun of it I literally published this post with 2G and I think I'm gonna keep it for a while lol.

Disagreeed with this though. Difference is obvious to me, especially when loading images.

Yes, since embedded images are not cached (probably) and usually came from external sources/websites e.g. talkimg, bitlist, and others, which takes another resources than cached data from the forum. Probably 1-2 images is good but more than that, it will take a little longer to load them

[alegotardo]

So a couple months ago I had a very bad experience with my carrier at the time and could barely browse the slightest of applications and websites I often visit but slightly to my surprise the forum ran just fine on 2G. If can remember vividly I think there was a post where we were actually able to conclude that the admin did have some optimization happen back end.

Nevertheless the pretty funny thing is constantly using 5G or 4G barely makes you see a difference in speed but switching up to 2G you'll definitely get a very smooth experience on the forum regardless of page length and even if images are embedded or not. You should try it out
Fun fact; just for the fun of it I literally published this post with 2G and I think I'm gonna keep it for a while lol.

What you gain in speed/performance you lose in usability.
Tell me honestly... is it easy to create a post on bitcointalk using a cell phone?

I have basic problems like selecting text, scrolling the screen sideways, keeping track of what I'm writing while typing, etc... and adding an image is complicated because it distorts the zoom and then the text becomes tiny.

A table then... impossible to do using a cell phone, it is very bad.

Anyway, the speed is good because the forum really has quite basic features, from the time when even a DSL connection would be enough (hopefully you also know what that is).

I use bitcointalk on cell phone exclusively for reading.

[notocactus]

Now what's this "wap" thing or "imode"  suppose to be? I'm not really familiar with this, in fact I have never known this thing (calling it a feature) until today, only realizing it after seeing your comment. All of their after apperacnce seems identical to me though...

And it's a manual method right? I mean every time i need it, I'll have to manually add those keywords at the ending, page by page?

It's because you did not know about this thread

• Hidden pages/ features on the forum.
• You can save it for later exploration.

Differences among three pages, I really don't know what are their differences in usecase, but there are some minor differences in interface and I really don't know what are these pages used for. I guess it is for people who have limited Internet bandwidth so that they can access the forum, load pages with as lightest data as possible.

[TokenTikas]

The forum is a cost-effective and easily accessible platform that is very simple to use. Although everything is updated day by day and becomes very heavy and takes up a lot of space, the forum does not move from its place and continues to provide the best service with complete accessibility. Although many sites are currently having problems running due to internet problems, Bitcointalk is still working very well.

Nevertheless the pretty funny thing is constantly using 5G or 4G barely makes you see a difference in speed but switching up to 2G you'll definitely get a very smooth experience on the forum regardless of page length and even if images are embedded or not. You should try it out

Also tried using mobile data, it is running quite well. However, images take a long time to load and keep loading but apart from that, it can be used smoothly without any issues.

[DYING_S0UL]

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It's because you did not know about this thread

• Hidden pages/ features on the forum.
• You can save it for later exploration.

Differences among three pages, I really don't know what are their differences in usecase, but there are some minor differences in interface and I really don't know what are these pages used for. I guess it is for people who have limited Internet bandwidth so that they can access the forum, load pages with as lightest data as possible.

Saved and bookmarked, thanks notocactus.

I'm kinda surprised to see it actually. I wasn't aware of it's existence it seems. Pretty helpful and interesting...would you mind if I proposed it for translation to the AOBT? It should be imo.

Btw, I have been exploring that topic, but there were so many pages, I couldn't find the wap/imode thing. Can you please specify which section it's located?

[libert19]

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What you gain in speed/performance you lose in usability.
Tell me honestly... is it easy to create a post on bitcointalk using a cell phone?

Not the one you asked but for me it is. I am just used to smartphones, and do everything faster there compared to laptop/desktop.

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A table then... impossible to do using a cell phone, it is very bad.

I have tried doing tables once it was headache, I gotta agree there or it could be just because I ain't used to it

[FinneysTrueVision]

I usually have a lot of tabs open because whenever I find an interesting topic when sorting by unread posts, I will open whatever I find interesting so I can come back to it later. Often times, I don’t end up coming back to them and the tab sits in the background for a long time. Even with more than a dozen tabs opened, I do not ever notice any lag or other performance issues.

It does not require much resources to display text and small images. Even though people criticize it as outdated, I like the simple design of the forum.

[ImGenius]

After I set my data connection to 2g I refresh my browser but it didn't load i thought it won't work but when i turn off then on the internet connection forum loaded almost as fast as 4g. when i change board it take 3 to 4s to load. Now I'm making this reply using 2g internet connection let's see if it work or not.

Edit:- It takes almost 10s to post this reply. I don't think it take more that 100kb of internet.

[DYING_S0UL]

And now that you (Mia Chloe) have mentioned it, I wonder whether Bitcointalk had always been this fast...! I'm referring to the early days of the forum.

It's understandable that over the years, Bitcointalk has undergone many improvements, the forum software has been heavily modified/changed/improved/optimized, making BTT what it is today. Technology has also evolved into smaller and faster.

But during that era, what was the typical forum experience..? Did it also work flawlessly back then?

I asked chatGPT about the internet during that time period and this is what I got. I guess only an OG forum user can answer my question now.

[Mia Chloe]

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Well personally I'd actually speculate that they perceived the speed back then exactly how we perceive 4G now. Speed is basically relatively and we can only raise the bar when we've already seen and realistic possibility that beats the already existing one.

It's exactly same way we perceived old videos back when 360p was the highest quality and peak but today we see it like an inconvenience just because we now see better quality for displays.

[DYING_S0UL]

@Mia Chloe, what's more surprising is that it's pretty fast on TOR as well. I'm on TOR right now, and the pages loads just as it did on any other normal browsers (TOR always felt slower and heavier to me).

Now if I compare it with the other forum, on TOR and on normal browser, the speed difference is noticeable. But with BTT, I feel nothing, no gap in performance or speed regardless the way the forum is accessed.  

(This thought suddenly came into my mind).

[Mia Chloe]

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I don't think I've literally ever compared both forums because Bitcointalk obviously stands out. There are many reasons why lagging is barely a problem here and I'm pretty sure one of the most important ones is how much load the server can handle. The other forum has a smaller server than this.

That's pretty much why cloudfare was made very strict because any little DDos attack will easily overload the forum compared to this actually. Tor is a normal standard here.

[Vod]

I think the forum was built on simple architecture designs which focuses on intensive caching so am not surprised that you can browse on 2G network.

Edit: The forum is powered by SMF  

I was going to mention that the software Theymos uses is so old, it doesn't have most of the bloat the modern ones do.   Less code, faster load.   But you figured it out.  

It's exactly same way we perceived old videos back when 360p was the highest quality and peak but today we see it like an inconvenience just because we now see better quality for displays.

I see this everyday when I watch old TV shows from the 90s.   Boy the quality was terrible back then!

[DYING_S0UL]

The other forum has a smaller server than this.

I agree, having bigger and better server is one of the reasons it's so fast. Another reason would be heavy optimization...which makes it possible to work on all sorts of condition.

I see this everyday when I watch old TV shows from the 90s.   Boy the quality was terrible back then!

It's the same with any other old classic video games. When I try to re-imagine them, for example, the old classic, Age of Empire, Stronghold, Rise of Nations, StarCraft, Warcraft - I can only imagine the best graphics. But when I actually reinstalled them for nostalgic sake, man the graphics really was terrible back then.

Once we have tasted the latest peak, the previous peak feels bland...

[Vod]

for example, the old classic, Age of Empire, Stronghold, Rise of Nations, StarCraft, Warcraft - I can only imagine the best graphics. But when I actually reinstalled them for nostalgic sake, man the graphics really was terrible back then.

Played most of those.  Remember the video that was released on the Windows 95 CD?  It was amazing at the time!

[libert19]

I see this everyday when I watch old TV shows from the 90s.   Boy the quality was terrible back then!

It's the same with any other old classic video games. When I try to re-imagine them, for example, the old classic, Age of Empire, Stronghold, Rise of Nations, StarCraft, Warcraft - I can only imagine the best graphics. But when I actually reinstalled them for nostalgic sake, man the graphics really was terrible back then.

Once we have tasted the latest peak, the previous peak feels bland...

Same experience. I remember feeling awe back when I played Delta force: land warrior for the first time, sometime back I checked video of it on YT for nostalgia purposes and I was like this is not what I remember. Well, I guess, the saying of, 'looking at past with rose tinted glasses' is probably correct.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Yeah I have often noticed that when using mobile in a bad signal area I can’t, for example, refresh my X feed.
In the UK we have 5G, 4G, 3G and when there is very little or no data at all but still able to make calls it says E. I have often been able to access the forum when on E but very little else which is cool.

[Rruchi man]

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Because the forum is not flashy will be a reason why some people will be discouraged from being in the forum because they are used to the flashy platforms. The flashier a platform is, the more internet requirements it will require and more of a distraction it will become.

Imagine we had profile pictures on our profiles here in the forum, many people would be distracted from the purpose of learning which the forum is meant for and turn it into another social networking platform. The forum is different from other platforms and you see it clearly as soon as you log in.

What this means is that you can remain a member of this community and keep learning even if you’re in an area where the reception is very poor.

[SatoPrincess]

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Because the forum is not flashy will be a reason why some people will be discouraged from being in the forum because they are used to the flashy platforms. The flashier a platform is, the more internet requirements it will require and more of a distraction it will become.

Imagine we had profile pictures on our profiles here in the forum, many people would be distracted from the purpose of learning which the forum is meant for and turn it into another social networking platform. The forum is different from other platforms and you see it clearly as soon as you log in.

By flashy I’m guessing you mean modern social media standards. I think a lot of the young people (Gen Z) would find it difficult to post on forums. They are used to likes, algorithms, and doomscrolling. It’s difficult to get them to pay long attention to anything that’s not a video.
After a couple of years on the forum, I realised that the forum interface doesn’t need to change to fit modern aesthetics, those who really find value in the community and contributions here will stay regardless of the software.