My tests with AI and betting on the World Cup

[Yablee0]

I think with the little information that was provided to you by Ai shows that Mexico has the highest chance of winning South Africa in the ongoing match.

Mexico is already on the lead and Quinones is the goal opener with a beautiful shot which went straight into the net passing in between the goalie legs. But this is football and anything can happen.

Lol, I doubt if the AI can be very accurate on their predictions since I haven't try this before. However, it seems to be more interested from the look of things, although since the op is carrying out the experiment with an amount he can afford to lose then it's fine. I just need to follow up this thread to the end to satisfy my curiousity. Nice one op keep it up  .

[Somegory]

Are we supposed to think differently about the world cup? Isn't it gambling still? So there isn't much difference between this and your favourite leagues, if you care about my advice make sure you risk only what you can.

It's going to be fun, you will likely win more hopefully but what about losses? We can't clean this part of gambling and it's to be expected if you are a smart gambler.

By the way, the odds on Mexico was very tinny, anyone who is going to make money off that match will have to risk alot of money, understand what you are getting into before taking risks.

[Dogedegen]

I'll start with a bankroll of $100, and during the World Cup I'll only have that amount to bet with. I need to see how far I can go and if I can profit with the help of AI
It's a small amount, and I'll make small bets because it's a test, I'll keep this project separate from my main bets

I won't make bets solely based on the AI's opinion, I'll use a mix of my analysis and the AI's

I am not so sure that this is a good test for anything. It is similar to saying that you will test whether some tipster is actually profitable, and then on each tip that it provides you add up your own analysis and decide to follow or not follow. That would not test the tipsters profitability at all. In this case you are not testing the AI, but it is more a subjective evaluation of how you are responding to AI suggestions. This means that even if you profit this time, it won't tell us anything in particular. It will not mean that the AI's ideas are bad or that they are good, because at each point and each game you are inducting a big variable of subjectivity. On some days where you feel optimistic you could be more willing to agree with the AI and do what it says, and on other days you may be different and be more likely to reject it. So when you also add the general luck of outcomes into this, the total outcome will not be a representation of what you can accomplish with AI but more a simple randomness outcome. It may go either way.

Still I am interested in this simple personal experiment, I want to see that you can do with your first attempt. 

[TedMosby]

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I won't make bets solely based on the AI's opinion, I'll use a mix of my analysis and the AI's

I can use Chatgpt, Grok, and Perplexity, which are the ones I have available at the moment
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At first I thought it would be something like a bot that will auto bet on World Cup 2026 matches. IMO, there's no difference between betting without AI and betting with AI if, in the end, you are the one who decides which side to bet on. Betting with AI in your case is just to simplify the research and make it more time-efficient as well. It will be biased if the bet you made wins/losses. Is it caused by the AI research, or by your decision?

If I can suggest, I'd suggest sticking with what you're doing now. And as an addition, you could do simulation bets using all the AI you mentioned above. Then we can compare which one works better, and it will help you and other members here learn from that.

Or maybe another member here wants to make a thread about it? Comparing all the top AI models to predict World Cup matches?

[Hatchy]

They mentioned the initial nervousness of the World Cup opener, suggesting I shouldn't bet on goals, and that betting on Mexico to win would be more favorable

I think it's going to be an interesting test. Though we know very well that Ai predictions are just its own opinions from alot of data and research it gets it hands on. You still have to do your own research based on the predictions it will give to you, so you don't end up betting blindly and ending up in loss. By now your first prediction would have been won because Mexico did win the first round of the world cup. It was an interesting match for a kick off too. Sometimes I wonder if we could get an Ai model that could actually predict events accurately. It's not impossible but I've not seen any reliable ones. I would love to follow up on how your games went with the world cup and Ai, cheers..

[rdluffy]

Wow, I didn't think there would be so many posts in my thread, hehe, that's cool!

I can't answer everyone, but I'll try to answer the questions:

Why am I using AI and my personal analysis?

Because it's a real-world scenario that I would consider using in the long term. I wouldn't let the AI ​​decide on its own which bet to make and what value, I still consider sports betting as something that requires the human eye of knowledge and experience to find good betting opportunities, such as a certain player who can make the difference, the tradition of a team in a certain championship, and many other things...

If you want an experiment entirely with AI, I suggest creating a thread that would be very cool to follow as well

I chose the World Cup because I like to bet during the World Cup, it's my favorite tournament


I bet $5 on Mexico to win with odds of 1.43
Current Bankroll: USD 102.15

I'll try to answer more on next post together with my prediction for today

[Obim34]

Are we supposed to think differently about the world cup? Isn't it gambling still? So there isn't much difference between this and your favourite leagues, if you care about my advice make sure you risk only what you can.

There is a difference between World Cup and any major league, please stop and don't make such comparison again. World Cup is played after every four years, while league competitions are played every year, most players are willing to exchange all their major trophies just for a World Cup trophy, the difference should be very clear.

Concerning using the right amount, some gamblers already prepared bankroll and budget for the tournament, some are ready to spend millions and hundreds of thousands just to entertain themselves, don't think to shrink their level of excitement for the event.

[Charcol]

However, it may be a good idea to test separately with a $100 bankroll. Because it reduces the risk of losing your main bankroll. But no matter how advanced the AI ​​analysis is, it cannot guarantee winning. You can only continue your research. You can keep this thread updated.
What did you ask the AI ​​in each match?
How much did the AI ​​predict?
Also, if you update other things here, we will know how much role AI can play in analysis.

[YOSHIE]

Do you think I will make a profit or a loss?

Second, you will get it, Al is a robot where a technological system is designed and connected to the internet and we ask, of course a technological robot will answer based on what it knows beforehand, in general of course Mexico and South Africa are far awaythe difference.

Yesterday my friend also used Al for the opening of the 2026 world cup tournament, my friend asked about the chances of winning between Mexico vs. South Africa, Al gave the answer that Mexico won, yes he was lucky because he won, even though the odds offered by the bookie were small, well for South Korea vs. This Czech is beyond Al's answer, where Al gave the answer that the Czechs had a chance of winning, but the facts on the field were that South Korea won with a score of 2-1, from my assessment the final result was that my friend won by 1 and lost by 1.

Maybe you also experience a situation like that, the point is that Al is not a solution and does not guarantee victory/profit for you.

[SamReomo]

However, it may be a good idea to test separately with a $100 bankroll. Because it reduces the risk of losing your main bankroll. But no matter how advanced the AI ​​analysis is, it cannot guarantee winning. You can only continue your research. You can keep this thread updated.

Yes, even if AI reached AGI level it still can't guarantee winning each time, but as users of this new technology that's named AI we can at least do our research in short time and that matters for most of us. Let's see how OP does with the help of AI because I've used AI for sports betting many times and it's not always accurate, in most cases it gives you wrong predictions that result into losses. However, in some cases it gives good predictions. Nowadays, I use it for research purpose only not to get a prediction from it.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

First of, I want to wish you the best of luck on this test you want to undergo, secondly, I want to give a suggestion based on what you said, you said you are not going to be using just AI opinion but a mix of both AI and your opinion, so I wanted to suggest that you should have two accounts for this test, you know why? Have account A with $50 bankroll and account B with $50 bankroll too, then one of the account should strictly be used to bet AI prediction alone while the other account is bet based on your analysis, so that at the end of the world Cup, we can see the one that is more profitable to you.

[hyudien]

Yes, even if AI reached AGI level it still can't guarantee winning each time, but as users of this new technology that's named AI we can at least do our research in short time and that matters for most of us. Let's see how OP does with the help of AI because I've used AI for sports betting many times and it's not always accurate, in most cases it gives you wrong predictions that result into losses. However, in some cases it gives good predictions. Nowadays, I use it for research purpose only not to get a prediction from it.

Like other supporting tools, AI is also included in the tool, because no matter how sophisticated AI knowledge is and how much data it can provide, one thing it cannot provide is how the conditions when the match takes place, changes in the tactics of each coach under pressure or when superior, player performance, because players can perform poorly, and how the referee's leadership. All of these cannot be predicted by AI, which can affect the result. So using AI assistance or not, the results are always not guaranteed, AI only speeds up the time when we are researching the matches that will be bet on, as you said, that's one of the help from AI, which is quite helpful.

[shawonngp]

It's good to see that you won your first bet. It is a very good decision that you have fixed a separate budget for the entire World Cup; $100 is enough because it is an affordable amount. Of course, you need to bet small, because this World Cup will have 100+ matches, if I am not wrong, which means you need to bet on the whole game. Whatever, I think it is not possible to win more matches in the long term based on AI only, because AI is not always able to make correct predictions, most probably it makes predictions based on just guesses, like seeing the team's past winning record, and considering the team's ranking.

[Mahiyammahi]

My first bet is on Mexico to win, with modest odds of 1.43
The AI ​​showed me that the hosts had 16 wins, 6 draws, and 1 loss in World Cup openers
Furthermore, they cited the last games of both teams as being quite unfavorable to South Africa

They mentioned the initial nervousness of the World Cup opener, suggesting I shouldn't bet on goals, and that betting on Mexico to win would be more favorable

I know there are already some topics about the World Cup, but it's a different project that I can't organize in the official topic
If there's no interest from anyone, I can stop posting so as not to generate uninteresting content

Team like these would be usually easy to predict the outcome. But when you're placing bets in two equal power team then it would defenetly hard to predict. Solely just depending on the statistics you can't win. Games can be changed by taking decision on the match . After half time lots of strategy has to shift according to the play. I would not just do this. If you do not watch the matched regularly , do not knows the player's statistics than I think it's hard for you to predict .

Always statistics don't tell us the accurate results. I hope you will send us update of every match after it ends and edit your post OP. I would like to see how it turns out AI vs Human

[KiaKia]

Honestly outright I would place bet on Mexico over south Africa, because I believe that Mexico will win, it's like saying that Argentina Vs South Africa, I believe that Argentina will win, but there are some that can't be certain to me.

Like South Korea Vs chezch Republic for example, I can't even tell where such game will lead, anyway, I don't use AI for gambling analysis because I don't see the point, I follow my heart and watch the match peacefully.

The matches doesn't have to go the way I want but I am sure that even if I pick wrong I will be fine, I fall into investment side more than gambling, there is no amount of lose in gambling that can affect me.

[rachael9385]

I've seen that depending on what we do and how we ask the questions, the AI ​​is capable of giving us good answers, but they never go in the direction of prediction. However, if the right questions are asked, the AI ​​can give us answers that bring us closer to our more detailed analysis and help us make our prediction with much more accuracy. That's why I would use the AI.

A lot of times gamblers fail to realize that that they can end up.being misled by the informations that they get from it,  Ai cannot give us any accurate predictions even though it might be possible to increase the chances of winning. When using ai you must be careful and make sure you don't rely on it.

[Yorubek]

It's good to see that you won your first bet. It is a very good decision that you have fixed a separate budget for the entire World Cup; $100 is enough because it is an affordable amount. Of course, you need to bet small, because this World Cup will have 100+ matches, if I am not wrong, which means you need to bet on the whole game. Whatever, I think it is not possible to win more matches in the long term based on AI only, because AI is not always able to make correct predictions, most probably it makes predictions based on just guesses, like seeing the team's past winning record, and considering the team's ranking.

It is very important to set limits when gambling so that you can control your greed and save yourself from losing the necessary money and ultimately stay within your means. No matter how skilled you are, you cannot be sure of winning because gambling results are unpredictable and may not be as expected, so it is better to set boundaries and gamble with small amounts. There are many new gamblers who think that AI can help them win at gambling, but in reality, AI cannot give you the exact direction to win at gambling, AI can only give an approximate result, nothing more. It is very important to do your own research when gambling, as this increases the chances of winning and reduces the amount of money lost.

[Porfirii]

It is curious that both profit and loss have the same votes for the moment (which would mean that there is no great preference for one or the other) but the option of the same balance has far fewer votes at the moment.

I would say that if it was a game with a 50% chance of winning or losing, it might make sense, but I don't think the use or help of AI helps enough to cover that difference that makes sports betting not a 50% game.

[Wiwo]

They mentioned the initial nervousness of the World Cup opener, suggesting I shouldn't bet on goals, and that betting on Mexico to win would be more favorable

I think it's going to be an interesting test. Though we know very well that Ai predictions are just its own opinions from alot of data and research it gets it hands on. You still have to do your own research based on the predictions it will give to you, so you don't end up betting blindly and ending up in loss. By now your first prediction would have been won because Mexico did win the first round of the world cup. It was an interesting match for a kick off too. Sometimes I wonder if we could get an Ai model that could actually predict events accurately. It's not impossible but I've not seen any reliable ones. I would love to follow up on how your games went with the world cup and Ai, cheers..

Some time's AI is a dependable tool, because the system have the capacity to take information from various sources and compiling them into one place and what ever analysis AI makes it from the depth of the data available to it online.

So is important for AI user's to make use of the data inputs which give the receiver ability to ask AI anything and right question to get the desire results, the ops was able to get an insight into who the possible winner will be between Mexico vs South Africa.

[Perfectbaby]

Since you are wanting to test run something between yourself and the AI, although I know that AI gives random answers because is a collective of different information that is used to compute on the AI. So, if you search same thing twice you would definitely have different response from the AI. If there were to be enough funds, I could have asked you to be having two bet, whereby if you bet on your analysis you can also bet on the one AI produce for you to bet.