Force ban/exclude someone to online gambling

[TypoTonic]

I know we're coming from the same country. The answer it seems is yes and no.

Yes, because Philippine Amusement and Gaming Corporation (PAGCOR) not only allows self-exclusion but also family exclusion.

I didn't know that PAGCOR has this type of family exclusion and I think they need to educate the country about this to make the initiative from them. But that would mean lesser profit for the casinos where the family self exclusion will be applied.

They're currently doing that. Just recently, PAGCOR has ordered that online gambling ads should be replaced with their 24/7 National Problem Gambling Helpline (NPGH). You can view this in their official website. But just like Darker45 said, their control is only limited to licensed gambling platforms, so the unregulated ones probably won't even bother following this new requirement.

[r_victory]

I believe this could be achieved through a court order or something similar. It is unfortunate that it has come to this. This might work for casinos that require identification, since the person in question could be blacklisted and denied service, but, unfortunately, it is not a definitive solution, as they could continue playing at anonymous casinos or even at illegal venues.

[Darker45]

~snip~

I didn't know that PAGCOR has this type of family exclusion and I think they need to educate the country about this to make the initiative from them. But that would mean lesser profit for the casinos where the family self exclusion will be applied.

Unfortunately, I'm sure they aren't serious in implementing this. If they are, they should have already aggressively disseminated this information. The agency must be aware that the nation is facing the worst gambling pandemic ever.

Everywhere you go--in the streets, online, on TV, and elsewhere--gambling ads are strongly promoted. Heinous crimes are committed because of gambling. Minors are addicted. Families break because of gambling. But I've yet to hear a single person banned from gambling because PAGCOR received a request from a family member.

~snip~

That's the cons of it, if the casino is unregulated and unregistered in our territory. OP and the others won't be able to do it and ask for PAGCORs help, maybe the only way is to directly contact that casino and plead them for that specific family member of theirs to be self excluded.

Which is frankly a pointless effort.

[salad daging]

I believe this could be achieved through a court order or something similar. It is unfortunate that it has come to this. This might work for casinos that require identification, since the person in question could be blacklisted and denied service, but, unfortunately, it is not a definitive solution, as they could continue playing at anonymous casinos or even at illegal venues.

The more casinos are banned the more gamblers play illegally, even if a court order is lifted it still won't help anything, there are always casino platforms in disguise.
Even now there are still a lot of illegal gambling and it is still crowded, if they don't get caught they will continue to grow, if they get caught they will make new ones, so the gambling problem is too complicated to be bridled.

[Fiatless]

Only a court of competent jurisdiction can be able to enforce such law within the territory through which it's law governs, and likewise on a physical casino and not online. Because when it comes to online casinos, there are many of them which operates both locally and internationally. And for the fact that each country has their different laws regarding gambling operations in their respective territories. It will be very hard to get a singular platform that offers gambling exclusion, except a court in your region that will ban all casinos from registering an account that bears a specific details. E.g National Identification Number or Voters card.

So in conclusion, what a person in this kind of condition needs is counselling, love and care.

A court order ordering all casinos in a jurisdiction to ban an individual could do the job. But the problem is that there are many registered casinos which are not in the jurisdiction covered by the court judgement. The individual would easily have access also to unregistered gambling platforms. These days it is very difficut to avoid gambling because of easy access and abilty to bypass restriction. Banning the individial is good but helping the individual embrace responsible gambling is better.

[Bitcoin.com97]

I don't think it's possible,I feel the best thing is awareness, with the way you are sounding your family member is not even aware of his gambling addiction,so even if you apply to exclude him,trust me he is definitely going to look for another way out , instead of the face ban,it's better to see a therapist,at least he should know the damage it has cost him,and you people should know his interest and talk him out of it ,many people has a big dream but hopefully depending on gambling to give them their desire not knowing things don't work that way .

[viljy]

Even if there was such a centralized ban on gambling, it would be ineffective. For example, if gambling is prohibited in a country, gamblers will play outside the jurisdiction or illegally. With the vast number of online casinos, prohibitive measures are not effective. To treat gambling addiction, a combination of measures is needed, in addition to restricting access to gambling. A psychiatrist may be required, and in severe cases, medication may be necessary. However, the most important factor is the patient's willingness to overcome their addiction.

[topbitcoin]

In my country this does not exist but it is likely that in other countries it could be like this because looking at the gambling regulations of each country is different and it is possible that things like this can still very much happen when gambling is still legal and the country has special regulations for addicts.

It's just that for my country this kind of thing will not be possible because from the beginning gambling has been prohibited and we as gamblers may receive a prison sentence (because being caught gambling is punishable by imprisonment in my country) so the exclusion from the site or casino will not apply in my country.

[Africolo]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

Excluding someone from online gambling can be possible in Nigeria where someone can be banned from gambling if it has eaten deep into him and he can no longer control his gambling habits, what the family members can do is simply go to all the casinos houses in the area and give them a strict warning never to allow their Son or a particular person to gamble in their shop, that's the only way it's done because you cannot communicate directly with the company to ban someone from gambling online except by a court order.

Individuals who are fully addicted to gambling will always find their way to gamble even when they are banned, they could use their phones and other gadgets to navigate their way to gambling, so I think the best way of helping someone stop gambling is hiring a therapist for him that will be slowly talking him out of gambling and the individual should also get busy so as to take his mind of gambling too.

[TedMosby]

I think your post is similar to this post.

Would it be nice to see a body or agency for gambling self exclusion?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5586292.0

It would be great to have services like that. But it will be difficult to track or monitor people's habits online and in real life. That would be the thing that makes this service difficult to works 100%. IMO, first thing first, gamblers should be aware of their gambling addiction. They should admit that they are in that certain situation. Acceptance is the key. I mean the condition should be that they are aware and willing to get help, to be cured from that addiction. After that, I think professional help would work.



EDITED:
I asked Google Gemini AI about organizations and software services that can help exclude someone from gambling, and it told me about BetStop, Gamstop, National Voluntary Self-Exclusion Program (NVSEP), BetBlocker, Gamban, Gamblock, and many other local gambling boards.

[junder]

I don't think there's a way from our government to stop someone from playing online games and being addicted to it. Specially in your country wherein there is proliferation of gambling as it is being regulated by our government.

If it is land base, then maybe because I know someone who has been reported by his wife to almost all land base casinos. So the moment he steps in, he will be escorted as he is ban. But in the case of online, it's very hard to do that.

Prohibiting or completely stopping someone who is addicted is a difficult thing especially with this number is not small so all the government can do is give a warning which is not even directly through social media which of course this will not have a big influence on those who are addicted with the possibility of still being ignored.

With access to physical casinos it might be limited by the planning done but with access to online casinos this will be difficult, unless the person is completely kept away from gadgets and the internet.

[swogerino]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

That will never work and I am talking from personal experience of my country enforcing a complete ban nation wide in 2019 so people would stop gambling on everyone. Most people directly found a way through VPN and other privacy tools to continue play, even with other accounts, like a friend account and that is why I think such enforcement even through government level it cannot stop addicted persons from gambling again. Better get this family member and put him in a rehab which would have higher chances to stop gambling than enforcing ban on him.

[bakasabo]

I believe this could be achieved through a court order or something similar. It is unfortunate that it has come to this. This might work for casinos that require identification, since the person in question could be blacklisted and denied service, but, unfortunately, it is not a definitive solution, as they could continue playing at anonymous casinos or even at illegal venues.

The court can not forbit what gambler can do at his free time. Banned in casino gambler can play at home among his friend (of course with money on stake) or go to illegal casino. I am not sure how casino are going to handle situation if government forbit gambler to play at their casino, as this is a direct hit on their business. Even though gambling addiction is a huge problem, I dont think casinos are going let go situation with addicted gamblers that easy. While casinos fight for their customers, do you think they really will ban customers?

[knuckey]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

For example,
There is one family member of ours that we can confirm of gambling addiction, and we want them to be force excluded in participating in any online gambling without their confirmation anymore.


I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

I'm sure it's impossible. Regardless of whether a country has legalized gambling or not, they still can't specifically ban someone from all casinos. Perhaps the closest to what you mean is PAGCOR, which is currently based in the Philippines, but that's also impossible. The reason is that online gambling isn't exclusive to the Philippines, and PAGCOR can only ban someone who has agreed or knowingly submitted to being banned. It can't ban someone by proxy.

[panjul07]

I doubt there is such an option in this world, even if we can do it in specific country but it will always depending on the gamblers.
There are so many ways to gamble especially in this online world so even if someone is banned, there will be still some ways for these gambler to play online gambling.
If the main purpose is to reduce gambling addiction, I think the best way is to raise their awareness about how dangerous gambling addiction is.
Especially if the gambler is our own family members, we can have deep talk with him not by forcing him hardly/brutally but by a heart to heart talk to raise his awareness.   

[Awaklara]

I doubt there is such an option in this world, even if we can do it in specific country but it will always depending on the gamblers.
There are so many ways to gamble especially in this online world so even if someone is banned, there will be still some ways for these gambler to play online gambling.
If the main purpose is to reduce gambling addiction, I think the best way is to raise their awareness about how dangerous gambling addiction is.
Especially if the gambler is our own family members, we can have deep talk with him not by forcing him hardly/brutally but by a heart to heart talk to raise his awareness.   

Like that, it might also succeed in opening the mind of a gambling addict. But some gamblers ignore what others say or suggest. I think the steps taken have to be adjusted to the condition of the addict. If it's already hard to talk to them and they tend to be aggressive, I think the family should agree to send them to a rehabilitation center in their area if available. Some addicts need professional help, because indeed the government and casinos won’t have a feature to ban them without the account owner's consent.

[JiiBs]

I'm curious, are there any platforms or gambling providers, or even some governments, that you can ask for someone to ban doing online gambling at all?

I'm curious that this could be some solution for gambling addiction of someone we know?

I haven’t heard of any but, I doubt there would be any platform of such. Most of all, how do you establish that a person is addicted to gambling? That’s going to be difficult to prove and that’s what could have being needed but, how many casinos or bookies would one need to apply to, and especially when most of the casinos out their operate a partial KYC and for the physical casinos or bookies, you don’t need an ID gamble do, you really wouldn’t get any ware trying to stop anyone from gambling on that base, except you make the individual see it for themselves.

[lombok]

I haven’t heard of any but, I doubt there would be any platform of such. Most of all, how do you establish that a person is addicted to gambling? That’s going to be difficult to prove and that’s what could have being needed but, how many casinos or bookies would one need to apply to, and especially when most of the casinos out their operate a partial KYC and for the physical casinos or bookies, you don’t need an ID gamble do, you really wouldn’t get any ware trying to stop anyone from gambling on that base, except you make the individual see it for themselves.

It is hard to use state regulations to block gambling sites as they have a lot of loopholes. Mental health professionals should support addicts so that they can recover. In my opinion, family love is able to conquer the desire to relapse. Concentrate on mental health recovery instead of merely trying to access methods of limiting access to gambling.

[Fredomago]

I haven’t heard of any but, I doubt there would be any platform of such. Most of all, how do you establish that a person is addicted to gambling? That’s going to be difficult to prove and that’s what could have being needed but, how many casinos or bookies would one need to apply to, and especially when most of the casinos out their operate a partial KYC and for the physical casinos or bookies, you don’t need an ID gamble do, you really wouldn’t get any ware trying to stop anyone from gambling on that base, except you make the individual see it for themselves.

It is hard to use state regulations to block gambling sites as they have a lot of loopholes. Mental health professionals should support addicts so that they can recover. In my opinion, family love is able to conquer the desire to relapse. Concentrate on mental health recovery instead of merely trying to access methods of limiting access to gambling.

Very useful in terms of helping a person who's already addicted as showing your care and love of being felt as sincerely as it is, chances that the addicted person may change up their minds and start to accept their addiction, and they might be ready to work with you in regards to that problem that they've got, having an uncontrollable situation needs a big help with someone who can embrace them with an open arms, though it's not as easy as it is but the process can be more than enough to assist them to change up.

[Orpichukwu]

I don't think any of such things are allowed by the casino, but there are still ways in which such things can be achieved. The same way you can take some sort of decision on someone else's account to some extent, all you just have to do is have the family consult a legal team and get you a court order, which should be used to approach the casino. I believe that can help, and if such steps have been taken and the casino is not complying, as long as they are regulated under your country's law, legal actions can be taken, but it won't be as simple as I made it sound.