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Today at 09:52:06 AM
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Many people say “just hold Bitcoin for long term”, but I think one thing is often ignored: emergency money.

Holding Bitcoin sounds easy when everything is fine. But when real life problems come, like rent, medical bills, family issue, job loss or urgent expenses, many people are forced to sell even if they never planned to sell. In that case the problem is not Bitcoin, but bad planning before buying.

For me, long term holding should not only mean “I believe in Bitcoin”. It should also mean “I can leave this money untouched for long time”. If someone invest all his spare money without keeping any backup, then even a small emergency can destroy his plan and make him panic sell at bad time.

This is why I think emergency fund and discretionary income are very connected. Before DCA or lump sum, people should first know what money is really free. Not money for food, rent, debt, family needs or short term bills.

So maybe the best Bitcoin strategy for normal people is not only buy and hold, but:

1. cover basic needs
2. keep some emergency backup if possible
3. use only real discretionary money for Bitcoin
4. hold without emotional pressure

Bitcoin rewards patience, but patience becomes very hard when you invested money that you may need next month.

And always remember, patience with a proper analysis usually pays off in the end. Smiley
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Today at 10:11:30 AM
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You don’t need anyone to tell you about emergency funds it comes naturally regardless of if you like it or not because if you don’t have emergency funds you will be done for during any emergency.
For me you don’t need anyone to tell you about your basic needs and that’s where emergency funds falls in.

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Today at 10:34:52 AM
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We are expected to plan ahead before we invested in Bitcoin, this will make us to prioritize our investment in Bitcoin as well as keeping some other reserved coins on a separate wallet that can be used for emergency, we all know that in economics, there is always plan for miscellaneous and additional budget for anything we wanted to do, so that you will not be caught on aware after we have invested in Bitcoin and couldn't afford other emergency needs arising.

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Today at 11:47:05 AM
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If you are new to Bitcoin then you won't be familiar with everything on day one of your investment. There are many things about Bitcoin which you will learn with passage of time. Like Bitcoin price is volatile and you will get to know how to tackle price volatility after you see two to three price swings. Emergency funds are required to make sure that you invest in Bitcoin for long time and again this is something one will learn as he continue to invest in Bitcoin. There are few things which you will only learn, once you invest your money in Bitcoin. 

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Today at 12:05:47 PM
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Many people say “just hold Bitcoin for long term”, but I think one thing is often ignored: emergency money.

Holding Bitcoin sounds easy when everything is fine. But when real life problems come, like rent, medical bills, family issue, job loss or urgent expenses, many people are forced to sell even if they never planned to sell. In that case the problem is not Bitcoin, but bad planning before buying.

For me, long term holding should not only mean “I believe in Bitcoin”. It should also mean “I can leave this money untouched for long time”. If someone invest all his spare money without keeping any backup, then even a small emergency can destroy his plan and make him panic sell at bad time.

This is why I think emergency fund and discretionary income are very connected. Before DCA or lump sum, people should first know what money is really free. Not money for food, rent, debt, family needs or short term bills.

So maybe the best Bitcoin strategy for normal people is not only buy and hold, but:

1. cover basic needs
2. keep some emergency backup if possible
3. use only real discretionary money for Bitcoin
4. hold without emotional pressure

Bitcoin rewards patience, but patience becomes very hard when you invested money that you may need next month.

And always remember, patience with a proper analysis usually pays off in the end. Smiley

It's actually not hard to become an holder.
The problem comes when you don't have a source of income and you invested all you have on Bitcoin.

People are been warned to always have a source of income first before investing anything, so that they will be able to pay their bills and also be able to take care of themselves if emergency comes.

Normally you are to prepared for emergency, that's why when you get paid you must have some money saved for such possible outcomes.

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Today at 12:13:21 PM
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Bitcoin rewards patience, but patience becomes very hard when you invested money that you may need next month.
That's why it's advised to only invest funds one won't need within a short time. This is also why I believe not everyone should be found investing. Those who can barely feed themselves shouldn't have any business investing what they should sustain themselves with. It makes them depend on others for financial upkeep after they've invested theirs. That leaves them no choice than to beg others for financial assistance. That's beggarly. Being beggarly erodes one's self dignity.

Again, investing such funds makes one apprehensive anytime price dips. That's not what investment should be.

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Today at 12:26:48 PM
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If you are new to Bitcoin then you won't be familiar with everything on day one of your investment. There are many things about Bitcoin which you will learn with passage of time. Like Bitcoin price is volatile and you will get to know how to tackle price volatility after you see two to three price swings. Emergency funds are required to make sure that you invest in Bitcoin for long time and again this is something one will learn as he continue to invest in Bitcoin. There are few things which you will only learn, once you invest your money in Bitcoin. 

I agree with you that some things are learned only after you already started investing.

From my own experience, I bought my first Bitcoin around 2018 and I continued accumulating after that. At that time I already believed in Bitcoin long term, but I didnt always calculate emergency money properly. Because of that, there were some periods where I had to sell small amounts of BTC, not because I stopped believing in Bitcoin, but because I needed liquidity for real life expenses.

That is exactly why I opened this topic. Many beginners think the hard part is only to buy and hold, but sometimes the harder part is to arrange your life in a way that you are not forced to sell. Volatility is one problem, but personal cash flow is another big problem.

So yes, experience teaches a lot, but I think beginners can avoid some mistakes if they understand early that emergency fund is part of the Bitcoin strategy too. If you hold BTC but have no backup for rent, medical bills, job problem or family needs, then your long term plan can easily break.

Now I am much more careful with this. Before buying more, I try to separate money for real life needs first, then use only the amount that can really stay untouched. Patience with proper analysis usually pays off in the end.
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Today at 12:39:41 PM
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You need to set some certain rules for yourself.

Mine goes as follows....

1. Have a source of income, job, business or anything else, this is what will reshape your everything, including your future self.

2. Don't always invest every penny you make, let's say you always get paid on month ending, like around $400, you need to invest what you can afford to lose I'm anything, even if you are so sure about Bitcoin, keep some money aside to keep living your life.

I choose to invest most of the money I make in Bitcoin, not because I don't have emergencies as well but because my Bitcoin wallet is now my new bank account, so if anything unexpected happens I will go back and sell some Bitcoin.

But first, I will take out food stocks money and also settle my bills, data, electricity, water and house rent, I'm good if I have foods at home that can last me for few months.

3. Understanding what you are investing your hardearned money on is very important, it gives you peace of mind compared to someone who was confused to invest in Bitcoin and make money, I am able to sleep at night because I understand Bitcoin in and out and I always want to hold Bitcoin, it doesn't bother me to invest 90% of my income in Bitcoin.

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Today at 12:49:57 PM
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You need to set some certain rules for yourself.

Mine goes as follows....

1. Have a source of income, job, business or anything else, this is what will reshape your everything, including your future self.

2. Don't always invest every penny you make, let's say you always get paid on month ending, like around $400, you need to invest what you can afford to lose I'm anything, even if you are so sure about Bitcoin, keep some money aside to keep living your life.

I choose to invest most of the money I make in Bitcoin, not because I don't have emergencies as well but because my Bitcoin wallet is now my new bank account, so if anything unexpected happens I will go back and sell some Bitcoin.

But first, I will take out food stocks money and also settle my bills, data, electricity, water and house rent, I'm good if I have foods at home that can last me for few months.

3. Understanding what you are investing your hardearned money on is very important, it gives you peace of mind compared to someone who was confused to invest in Bitcoin and make money, I am able to sleep at night because I understand Bitcoin in and out and I always want to hold Bitcoin, it doesn't bother me to invest 90% of my income in Bitcoin.


I understand your point, especially if Bitcoin has already become your main saving account. In that case, selling small part of it during emergency may be normal because that is where most of your stored value is.

But I think the problem comes when someone is still in early accumulation stage and he puts almost everything into Bitcoin without any separate cash backup. If emergency comes during a bad market period, he may be forced to sell at the worst time, not because he wants to, but because he has no other option.

For me there is a difference between selling BTC by choice and selling BTC under pressure. The first one can be part of personal planning, but the second one is usually bad financial management.

I agree that understanding Bitcoin gives peace of mind, but cash flow still matter too. Even if someone strongly believe in Bitcoin, rent, food, medical bills and family needs are still paid in fiat most of the time. So keeping some emergency money outside Bitcoin can protect the long term holding plan.

Investing 90% of income may work for someone who has stable income, low expenses and strong discipline, but for many beginners it can be too aggressive. Better to build the habit slowly than to buy hard and later sell because of pressure.
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Today at 12:51:30 PM
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For me, long term holding should not only mean “I believe in Bitcoin”. It should also mean “I can leave this money untouched for long time”. If someone invest all his spare money without keeping any backup, then even a small emergency can destroy his plan and make him panic sell at bad time.

This is why I think emergency fund and discretionary income are very connected. Before DCA or lump sum, people should first know what money is really free. Not money for food, rent, debt, family needs or short term bills.

This is always given, anyone who is knowledgeable about investment procedure knows that before investing one make sure that the fund must suffice the basic needs and extra savings, before investing to anything else.  The often downfall of new investors is that they put all their money on investment without thinking emergency needs.  So all should be budgeted accordingly, best if the money is distributed or budgeted in a balanced way where there  is rooms for savings and investment.

It is not bad to be thrifty, actually, it is encouraged as long as the daily needs for sustenance is not compromised. 

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So maybe the best Bitcoin strategy for normal people is not only buy and hold, but:

1. cover basic needs
2. keep some emergency backup if possible
3. use only real discretionary money for Bitcoin
4. hold without emotional pressure

This is a good list to do, and I highly agree with it, if we do this stuff, we will find ourselves to be able to hold our investment without any worries.

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Today at 12:54:53 PM
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Many people say “just hold Bitcoin for long term”, but I think one thing is often ignored: emergency money
About hold bitcoin, how to invest, how to buy, sell, how to manage money for life and investment, there are several threads about that.
People discuss about it, about emergency fund in these threads with 800 pages and 1500 pages, even in other threads.

It's not actual necessarily to create another thread for discussing about emergency fund because two mega threads are enough.
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Today at 01:06:37 PM
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You actually jumped steps before talking about buy and hold Bitcoin for long term, that is why you see the need for this topic.

Every investor should first learn about Investment before diving down specifically into Bitcoin investment.

Even without investing, aren't you suppose to have emergency funds?


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Today at 01:14:44 PM
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1) Make sure you have the patience to want to learn about Bitcoin.
2) Make sure that you are not jobless.
3) Learn the principles of keeping bitcoin safe, even if you are making money, losing it to someone will upset you.
4) Have a percentage in MInd, don't always invest everything because every investments are risky regardless.
5) Have it in mind that investment means long term, don't expect your Bitcoin to start growing the next day.
6) Learn more about how the cycle works.
7) Avoid trading, they are mostly not good for beginners who want to hold for long term.
8 ) Safe money in your bank account, use that to sort your life needs.
9) Safeguide your keys, not your keys not your coins.
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Today at 01:15:50 PM
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Emergency funds should have absolutely nothing to do with your investment funds. One is one thing and the other is another thing. Anyone who knows how to manage their money understands the need to save funds for different purposes instead of going "all-in" on an investment, no matter how good that investment is (and Bitcoin is an amazing investment, I think most people would say).

Anyone who cannot manage their funds or think more than a few weeks into the future should not be making any kind of financial decisions in the first place. Luckily, Bitcoin rewards even the dullest of minds.

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Today at 02:15:40 PM
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This is why I think emergency fund and discretionary income are very connected. Before DCA or lump sum, people should first know what money is really free. Not money for food, rent, debt, family needs or short term bills.

So maybe the best Bitcoin strategy for normal people is not only buy and hold, but:

1. cover basic needs
2. keep some emergency backup if possible
3. use only real discretionary money for Bitcoin
4. hold without emotional pressure

Bitcoin rewards patience, but patience becomes very hard when you invested money that you may need next month.

And always remember, patience with a proper analysis usually pays off in the end. Smiley
This is very much general with investment and not just Bitcoin. whenever you are going into investment of any sort, be it with Bitcoin or stocks or even real estate, you always have to make sure you are not  using funds made for your day to day survival to invest because that will mean you wanting to go into circles as you will just want to make quick money so you can quit already and use your money for survival which will in most cases fail.

Most times it is important that before you go into investment you should always have that extra source of income that takes care of your basic needs and not you having to survive on the expected profit you will be getting form the investment.

Having an extra source of income that takes care of your needs does have some many advantages it comes with, one of such is to help you reduce that emotional attachment to your investments that will exact pressure on you and cause you to want to rush into harvesting your investment and make you loose out on real profits on your assets that would have been very useful to you in getting some other investment and funding you a good life.
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Today at 02:51:35 PM
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The OP's remark is true for beginners, those who once heard that investing in bitcoin could change their lives, but they could not cope with learning the full rules of investing. That is why it is always stated here on the forum that your investments should not affect either your basic needs or some unforeseen situations that may happen one day. Invest the funds that you can lose without stress for yourself. This in no way literally means a loss, but maintaining your physical health and mental state in a volatile market and understanding all the rules and timing of investing will keep your investments safe.

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Today at 03:15:51 PM
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I prefer this thread on the economy board because we are talking about emergency funds not about the bitcoins, it's nicer and more relevant. CMIIW

In economic principles that I often read from forums that emergency funds are very important to have as you have a future life plan either 3 months ahead or 6 months ahead as a form of readiness if something happens to your business or work.
Before talking about investment, it is very mandatory to understand financial management, otherwise, the investment made is just an experience that you will regret.

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Today at 03:44:03 PM
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You don’t need anyone to tell you about emergency funds it comes naturally regardless of if you like it or not because if you don’t have emergency funds you will be done for during any emergency.
For me you don’t need anyone to tell you about your basic needs and that’s where emergency funds falls in.
Yes we may not need anyone to tell us about emergency funds as you rightly pointed out because as an Investor, you should have thought of ways to safeguard your Bitcoin investment and one of the process is is by having emergency funds, emergency funds should be one of the the first thing that should come to you mind at that moment when you are about to start or when you've started already, although most of us are lucky to be in a forum like this where the procedures to follow to acumulate Bitcoin without having any problems along the line is been repeatedly said by different forum users, there are some persons that may not have an insight on how to follow their Bitcoin investment rightly, do you know that there are some investors out there that doesn't know that what is required of us to invest in Bitcoin is our discreationary income, some investors here learn about that in this forum, knowledge they say is power and how do we learn, by doing personal research.

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Today at 03:53:04 PM
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To hold Bitcoin longer without stress or the risk of selling them premature,  emergency funds is a prerequisite.  It is the emergency funds that will be used to cover for all other expenses, not under the basic needs, which must be satisfied due to their urgency or importance. In life emergencies happens,  some of which are life-threatening, we don't pray for them but we plan for them. So preparing the emergency is the right thing to do to be able to hold Bitcoin for long term.











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Today at 04:31:21 PM
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It is very pivotal to always have a back up (plan) to carry out your day to day demands while you embark on investing in bitcoin.
Everyone has needs and wants  they must deal with, so therefore for you to be able to hold your bitcoin investment for a very long  period you should have another source of income else the urge to withdraw from your investment can not be resisted.

 You can't afford to be an investor without patience.
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