Do You Actually Verify Provably Fair, or Just Trust the Casino?

[red4slash]

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

Most gamblers will say the same because we rarely check things like this but if this is related to the site then obviously this will add attraction to the site because it aims to convince its users that the site is indeed completely fair and transparent with the results of gambling.

But for the problem of checking like this I think maybe someone will try but I personally don't seem to ever try to do something like this because even though this will convince me more against one of the sites in terms of reputation but I don't think I will do this because I believe with a site that has a reputation especially in this forum it will still be very worth it to use especially for large sites.
What is clear in this case is that sites that have this feature will certainly be a plus because they not only claim that they are trusted but can prove it.

[hedgeh0g]

Can the harsh be manipulated because that is the most possible way to have a casino with a probably fair system still ringing their games and putting it up for the gamblers to verify despite knowing that they have cheated in the process, but as you rightly said none reputable casinos can actually do anything just to put themselves at advantage over the players.

I certainly don't think casinos want to act unfairly toward players, because they risk their reputation, and if it's lost, players will slowly but surely start switching to competitors, which could jeopardize the entire business. There have probably been precedents for this. In any case, there will be casinos that intend to act this way from the start, only to later close their casino and open a new one under a different name with fake or different owners. And of course, if possible, it's best to check the casino yourself for certain things.

[Findingnemo]

Most of the players ignore that, and even the ones who know don't do that with every bet because it kills the fun unless people enjoy the verification process. And I don't think it is necessary for everyone either, they can simply pick the casino based on the reputation then everything will work just fine but with the casino that provides the option to verify the fairness of their results can use it to find out the results.

[coinlary]

Reputable casinos will always have Fair system anyways. There's  absolutely no reason to stress over it but it's  fine for anyone who still have doubts and just want to be assured everything is fair before taking fourther steps on deposit.

There's a punishment of not being  fair as a Casino, so far they are licensed it's  a crime on it's  own. Not sure they would risk their  entire business on something  that likely going to take them down in one way or the other.

[Questat]

I don't go for self-acclaimed provably fair casinos, I still go for the one I trusted for years. The reputation of the casino is often the topmost priority, not only for me but I guess for the majority here as well. You can't just believe if they claimed to be provably fair, systems can be rigged too. So its best if you have personal experience with the casino oftentimes, because that's the only way that you can tell that a certain casino is reliable or not, or is it trustworthy of our funds or not.

And to think that no casino admits that they're not provably fair, so its really best to experience it for yourself than just believe on their ads and promotions.

[Cantsay]

The only time I have checked or confirmed the fairness of a casino was when I was testing it for a review, and not exactly because I was using it, and then just thought to do it. During our gambling sessions, we tend not to have just one or two spins, so it feels like a huge task for me to go through all of them and check if the system is fair or not.

One thing that would prompt me to actually do a check would be if I logged into my account to play and then got an insanely large amount of losing streak, that is definitely going to make me check if they cheated me or if I was just unlucky.

[Shinpako09]

No, I don't. There were a few times when I checked it out of frustration, but deep down I knew the results were random and not manipulated. Most of the time, I don't even bother checking because I trust the casinos I play on.

I only play on reputable sites, especially those being advertised here on the forum, so I don't see the need to verify every result. It's just a waste of time confirming something I already believe to be fair.

Provably fair is a big deal for most gamblers, if not all. It's one of the biggest features players look for, which is why almost every casino claims to have it.

[Maslate]

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

I’ve never checked it myself, although I’ve seen people on the forum say they have done so with certain casinos. I just stick to the reputable casinos advertised here and I’ve never had any problems.

I've never checked it too. So far, I only play on the casinos I have trusted for years and it never disappoint me. And for me, that's what matter the most. I don't mind these new casinos claiming that they have provably fair system, fake and simulated systems are still highly possible especially if that's part of their plan.

Still, the best way to test the legitimacy of a certain platform, have it experience for yourself. Trust will only develop from those reputable and reliable casinos, not from those fake ones.

[Japinat]

If all new casinos being launched in the market are now claiming to have provably fair system, then most probably some of these are fake and rigged. You can't expect that all of them can be trusted, scam casinos would do everything to look like they are legit and can be trusted, because that's the only way they can earn income from their scam business.

This is the reason why I don't waste time checking their system if they are provably fair. The system itself can be manipulated. I just stick to my old casinos that have already build their own reputation. That's something that is non-negotiable.

[qwertyup23]

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

I’ve never checked it myself, although I’ve seen people on the forum say they have done so with certain casinos. I just stick to the reputable casinos advertised here and I’ve never had any problems.

This is exactly what I have been thinking also.

I am no means an expert on technical-related stuff when it comes to checking all the corners of a certain gambling website. However, I base my decision purely and primarily on the reputation of an online casino if they can be trusted enough not to fake any claims or information on their part.

The best example here would be Duelbits or even Stake. While they may advertise themselves as provably fair and I cannot check it for myself, I trust their word for it because I believe they wouldn’t dare to claim something that isn’t true that can potentially destroy their hard-earned and years of reputation building along the way.

[Woodie]

Honestly I don't even bother,  maybe after losing several rounds I would be tempted to verify the seed and all that, but was reading a review about one casino done by coins review** not sure if name is correct they are also here on Bitcointalk** they said some casino's use this to fool players because the seed itself can't be verified, so we just need to stick to known casino's to avoid bad players..

[Cantsay]

The best example here would be Duelbits or even Stake. While they may advertise themselves as provably fair and I cannot check it for myself, I trust their word for it because I believe they wouldn’t dare to claim something that isn’t true that can potentially destroy their hard-earned and years of reputation building along the way.

If it were a small or new site, I would have been more sceptical about it and be willing to use the whole provably fair system, but for one like Duelbit that is huge and also knows that a little mistake from them could hurt their reputation so badly, I don't think this is going to be something that they would want to joke with or even lie about.

Things like this take away the fun part of gambling and just leave you with some technical shiit which also increases your trust issues for casinos.

[alastantiger]

Reputable casinos will always have Fair system anyways. There's  absolutely no reason to stress over it but it's  fine for anyone who still have doubts and just want to be assured everything is fair before taking fourther steps on deposit.

There are few casinos that I trust on the forum and this casino are reputable casinos that have been existing for a very long time. I am not too quick to accept a new casino because of the welcome bonus or other bonuses that they offer because with my years of experience I understand that not many casino are able to keep all their marketing strategy since it involves spending money but if you take your time to only patronize the reputable exchanges then you get to avoid getting scam. Just trusting a casino because it's design looks good or from fake testimony being shared online it's not wise instead we should learn to always do our own research so that you can understand what we are getting ourselves into.

[xLays]

In all the years I've been playing original casino games, I don't think I've ever bothered to verify my bets using the provably fair system. However, I used to be a tester for an online casino's original games such as mines, limbo and hi-lo and I can say that they seemed to have patterns that made them feel rigged.

For example, whenever you kept spamming the double bet option, it often felt like your next bet was almost guaranteed to lose. I've also played at several reputable online casinos, and I still get the same impression. Whenever I repeatedly use the double bet feature, it feels like the next round is programmed to make me lose. Try it yourself.

[stadus]

I don't see any point verifying a casino, because once its ads says that its a provably fair one, then they will do system manipulation to make the gambler believes on it. Scam casinos are good in manipulation, that's why they find it easy to lure gamblers, especially those who are newbies in gambling.

Instead, I used my experience to verify whether the casino is reliable or not. I don't go for newly launched casinos, a lot of them are just putting us in their pockets. I prefer with my old but trusted casinos, reputation can never be beat by those system manipulations.

[Agathamay]

Those of you who might be pro enough in the gambling world probably know about Provably Fair.
For those who don't know, Provably Fair is a technology-based algorithm that allows online randomization to enhance and reach a new level of fairness and transparency.

Nowadays, many online casinos use cryptographic systems to prove that the results they provide are random and not altered before or after a bet is placed, ensuring that the gambling is proven fair.
Duelbits has also written an article about their Provably Fair system and they state that they truly implement Provably Fair.

https://duelbits.com/blog/guide/duelbits-provably-fair-casino

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

I don think that, people that should be bothered about provably fair algorithms are those that focus mainly on casino games and not the regular sport bettors and since I'm not a typical fan of casino gaming, I'm not really bothered about provably fairness but the truth is that, the issue of provably fair rings in my head when my loss streak gets massive while playing a game and in most cases, these kind of losses comes the moment you increase your stake above the usual amount you have been playing which makes me feel, something or someone is really playing a hard one on us.

But in long run, I just think a reputable casino shouldn't have to do anything silly to their games and ought to be provably fair at all times.

[Grace333]

The only reason people get concerned about searching for way to check this is when they are having a really bad session, and like the name says "probably fair" it didn't say the casinos are going to be fair with the result probably means uncertainty and that tells you that even if they don't alter the results manually as most people think the algorithm for the casino will work in the favor of the casino and not the gambler because they didn't promise you fairness.

[Satofan44]

Those of you who might be pro enough in the gambling world probably know about Provably Fair.
For those who don't know, Provably Fair is a technology-based algorithm that allows online randomization to enhance and reach a new level of fairness and transparency.

Nowadays, many online casinos use cryptographic systems to prove that the results they provide are random and not altered before or after a bet is placed, ensuring that the gambling is proven fair.
Duelbits has also written an article about their Provably Fair system and they state that they truly implement Provably Fair.

https://duelbits.com/blog/guide/duelbits-provably-fair-casino

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

You do not need to do that, most users shouldn't even try to do that. The importance is the ability to transfer this verification process to trusted third parties, whether on this forum or somewhere else. If people who understand how to verify whether something is actually provably fair or not give a green light to a casino, then why should a use waste their time with this? 99% of the people don't verify most things in their lives, things that are much more important than this and as such there is no need to misplace priorities. Where this can become quite an issue is for people who are playing on new casinos frequently, where the incident rate of scams is very high. But this issue is not related to whether the casinos are provably fair or not.

I personally do not do that, but I analyze the posts of others who have verified the casino.

I don't see any point verifying a casino, because once its ads says that its a provably fair one, then they will do system manipulation to make the gambler believes on it.

If it is truly provably fair, then it can not be manipulated. Go back to elementary school.

[Joy- maker]

Is this Provably Fair system actually utilized by players, or is it more often used as a selling point for casinos?

My answer is both, but it is used more as a marketing feature by casinos and other gambling platforms than a tool by the average gambler. because if truth be told most gamblers do not verify anything at all they simply trust that the game is fair, however a small percentage of gamblers who are technically skilled do verify results. As for me since i do not know much about technical things talk more of being technically skilled like some forum users i simply assume that the game is fair.

[Finestream]

Honestly speaking, I have no plans on checking these kind of provably fair casinos, because why do I have to when I have my own choice and trusted casinos from the start. I won't dare to compromise my funds, just because they're new and interesting, I would still prefer to play on my proven and tested casinos.

However, I don't mean to generalized them but having this provably fair casino system is like a trap for every gambler. Its like reputation no longer works, but gamblers should go what's in the trend. But as an experienced gambler, no one can beat a reputable casino, which is built in time and with trust from the gamblers.