Re: 🔥[FREE RAFFLE] ENDS SUNDAY - POLYMERBIT "Vires Numeris" Note .001 BTC 🔥

[spinners]

scammers get banned. period

But where is the actual proof that this member is a scammer?  Lets see the hard evidence beyond the lies and drama.

[MoparMiningLLC]

scammers get banned. period

But where is the actual proof that this member is a scammer?  Lets see the hard evidence beyond the lies and drama.

lets see - makes 2 posts - both are reviving old dead howard threads and the second is on another old howard thread. Welcome back again Howard.

As for Howard being a scammer - he was not. Annoying on a personal level - persistent and dogmatic - yes. Scammer? No.

[Kazkaz27]

scammers get banned. period

But where is the actual proof that this member is a scammer?  Lets see the hard evidence beyond the lies and drama.

lets see - makes 2 posts - both are reviving old dead howard threads and the second is on another old howard thread. Welcome back again Howard.

As for Howard being a scammer - he was not. Annoying on a personal level - persistent and dogmatic - yes. Scammer? No.

Funny that reminds me of you (Annoying, persistent, and dogmatic). So, why haven’t you been banned?

To be abundantly clear it’s really difficult rather impossible to be a scammer when all Howard did on the forum was buy tens of thousands of dollars worth of collectibles and give away thousands of dollars worth of them.

Mopar had one deal fall through with Howard after Howard had spent thousands of dollars already previously with Mopar obtaining collectibles. (Howard found a better deal/ the same thing for cheaper.) Mopar got butt hurt because he couldn’t screw Howard, burned the bridge with Howard and sicked all his Girl Scouts after him to make up endless rumors and lies. Not the first time Mopar has done this type of thing. Essentially, we had a good collector who was tossed away by the community due to Mopars narrative. Not a very self-sustaining environment (unless you like kissing Mopars ass).

If anyone cares and has half a brain I challenge you look into who Howard is, you’ll find he's a legitimate rich godly man with a family and high integrity.

If you look into Mopar, you’ll find out he's obese and trailer trash.

[spinners]

scammers get banned. period

But where is the actual proof that this member is a scammer?  Lets see the hard evidence beyond the lies and drama.

lets see - makes 2 posts - both are reviving old dead howard threads and the second is on another old howard thread. Welcome back again Howard.

As for Howard being a scammer - he was not. Annoying on a personal level - persistent and dogmatic - yes. Scammer? No.

I know Howard and I truly value your honest opinion. Thanks for sharing!

[Kazkaz27]

for full context this is the other part of this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5582588.msg66907024#msg66907024

[MoparMiningLLC]

Mopar had one deal fall through with Howard after Howard had spent thousands of dollars already previously with Mopar obtaining collectibles. (Howard found a better deal/ the same thing for cheaper.) Mopar got butt hurt because he couldn’t screw Howard, burned the bridge with Howard and sicked all his Girl Scouts after him to make up endless rumors and lies. Not the first time Mopar has done this type of thing. Essentially, we had a good collector who was tossed away by the community due to Mopars narrative. Not a very self-sustaining environment (unless you like kissing Mopars ass).

If anyone cares and has half a brain I challenge you look into who Howard is, you’ll find he's a legitimate rich godly man with a family and high integrity.

If you look into Mopar, you’ll find out he's obese and trailer trash.

Actually - no deal fell thru - And Howard paid more for the deal he brokered than the one I had for him - he paid over 5k for what ai obtained for a few hundred. I still brokered the deal - which Howard tipped quite well and which I returned 100% of it to him. I did the deal for free. So, again here you are showing your ignorance yet again - spreading your own rumors.

[Kazkaz27]

Mopar had one deal fall through with Howard after Howard had spent thousands of dollars already previously with Mopar obtaining collectibles. (Howard found a better deal/ the same thing for cheaper.) Mopar got butt hurt because he couldn’t screw Howard, burned the bridge with Howard and sicked all his Girl Scouts after him to make up endless rumors and lies. Not the first time Mopar has done this type of thing. Essentially, we had a good collector who was tossed away by the community due to Mopars narrative. Not a very self-sustaining environment (unless you like kissing Mopars ass).

If anyone cares and has half a brain I challenge you look into who Howard is, you’ll find he's a legitimate rich godly man with a family and high integrity.

If you look into Mopar, you’ll find out he's obese and trailer trash.

Actually - no deal fell thru - And Howard paid more for the deal he brokered than the one I had for him - he paid over 5k for what ai obtained for a few hundred. I still brokered the deal - which Howard tipped quite well and which I returned 100% of it to him. I did the deal for free. So, again here you are showing your ignorance yet again - spreading your own rumors.

Deny it if you wish. Howard is someone I've stayed in Contact with and if anyone wanted to they could reach out to him themselves and confirm from the source. Either way, you deliberately trashed Howard publicly from the start leading others to follow suit.

[DireWolfM14]

As for Howard being a scammer - he was not. Annoying on a personal level - persistent and dogmatic - yes. Scammer? No.

To to be a scammer one needs to be somewhat shrewd and intelligent.  At the very least he needs to be slightly more intelligent than his intended victims...

Just making an observation. 

[MoparMiningLLC]

Mopar had one deal fall through with Howard after Howard had spent thousands of dollars already previously with Mopar obtaining collectibles. (Howard found a better deal/ the same thing for cheaper.) Mopar got butt hurt because he couldn’t screw Howard, burned the bridge with Howard and sicked all his Girl Scouts after him to make up endless rumors and lies. Not the first time Mopar has done this type of thing. Essentially, we had a good collector who was tossed away by the community due to Mopars narrative. Not a very self-sustaining environment (unless you like kissing Mopars ass).

If anyone cares and has half a brain I challenge you look into who Howard is, you’ll find he's a legitimate rich godly man with a family and high integrity.

If you look into Mopar, you’ll find out he's obese and trailer trash.

Actually - no deal fell thru - And Howard paid more for the deal he brokered than the one I had for him - he paid over 5k for what ai obtained for a few hundred. I still brokered the deal - which Howard tipped quite well and which I returned 100% of it to him. I did the deal for free. So, again here you are showing your ignorance yet again - spreading your own rumors.

Deny it if you wish. Howard is someone I've stayed in Contact with and if anyone wanted to they could reach out to him themselves and confirm from the source. Either way, you deliberately trashed Howard publicly from the start leading others to follow suit.

Nothing to deny - we both have the texts where I told him what i got the same note set he agreed to purchase from someone else for considerably more. If you are claiming that Howard says I ripped him off - then he is wrong. But I doubt he would say that - considering he repeatedly has sent messages since then still asking me to find him items. And the only thing I have “trashed” Howard for is his inability to respect my personal space when repeatedly asked. I have always said he paid for everything and have repeatedly said he is not a scammer. You are delusional - seemingly to always cause conflict when there is none.

[Kazkaz27]

Mopar had one deal fall through with Howard after Howard had spent thousands of dollars already previously with Mopar obtaining collectibles. (Howard found a better deal/ the same thing for cheaper.) Mopar got butt hurt because he couldn’t screw Howard, burned the bridge with Howard and sicked all his Girl Scouts after him to make up endless rumors and lies. Not the first time Mopar has done this type of thing. Essentially, we had a good collector who was tossed away by the community due to Mopars narrative. Not a very self-sustaining environment (unless you like kissing Mopars ass).

If anyone cares and has half a brain I challenge you look into who Howard is, you’ll find he's a legitimate rich godly man with a family and high integrity.

If you look into Mopar, you’ll find out he's obese and trailer trash.

Actually - no deal fell thru - And Howard paid more for the deal he brokered than the one I had for him - he paid over 5k for what ai obtained for a few hundred. I still brokered the deal - which Howard tipped quite well and which I returned 100% of it to him. I did the deal for free. So, again here you are showing your ignorance yet again - spreading your own rumors.

Deny it if you wish. Howard is someone I've stayed in Contact with and if anyone wanted to they could reach out to him themselves and confirm from the source. Either way, you deliberately trashed Howard publicly from the start leading others to follow suit.

Nothing to deny - we both have the texts where I told him what i got the same note set he agreed to purchase from someone else for considerably more. If you are claiming that Howard says I ripped him off - then he is wrong. But I doubt he would say that - considering he repeatedly has sent messages since then still asking me to find him items. And the only thing I have “trashed” Howard for is his inability to respect my personal space when repeatedly asked. I have always said he paid for everything and have repeatedly said he is not a scammer. You are delusional - seemingly to always cause conflict when there is none.

It's very convenient for you to say all this. Howard's reputation plummeted largely in part to your malevolence towards him. Your power here thwarts others. The two sides to the coin are out there. It's up to individuals to do their due diligence. I have zero respect for business men who act like your friend and do thousands of dollars worth of transactions together and then one day out of the blue stab their business partner in the back due to 1 inconvenience. You’re a waste of breath, but I wish to warn the community. Happy 4th!

[MoparMiningLLC]

It's very convenient for you to say all this. Howard's reputation plummeted largely in part to your malevolence towards him. Your power here thwarts others. The two sides to the coin are out there. It's up to individuals to do their due diligence. I have zero respect for business men who act like your friend and do thousands of dollars worth of transactions together and then one day out of the blue stab their business partner in the back due to 1 inconvenience. You’re a waste of breath, but I wish to warn the community. Happy 4th!

Worth noting - Howard had no reputation at all on the forums until after I stopped working for him. So his reputation here was his to make or break.
The only thing I did to Howard here was to tell him I would no longer deal with him - he was welcome to deal with anyone directly - which he did on numerous locations with no issues. I can work for whoever I choose. I have also always stated Howard has paid with no issues. The issues with him were personal and I have always made that clear. Any issues he has had here with the forums and/or others is on him - nothing to do with him. You make it sound as though I control others here - which I do not - I have no power on here except to control who I work with - if I had control of others and the forums, how has he dealt with anyone? Simple - I have no power or control. You disrespect every one thru such statements. The waste is you. Cry some more - harass some more and lets see if you can esrn a longer ban - hopefully a permanent one.

[spinners]

It's very convenient for you to say all this. Howard's reputation plummeted largely in part to your malevolence towards him. Your power here thwarts others. The two sides to the coin are out there. It's up to individuals to do their due diligence. I have zero respect for business men who act like your friend and do thousands of dollars worth of transactions together and then one day out of the blue stab their business partner in the back due to 1 inconvenience. You’re a waste of breath, but I wish to warn the community. Happy 4th!

Worth noting - Howard had no reputation at all on the forums until after I stopped working for him. So his reputation here was his to make or break.
The only thing I did to Howard here was to tell him I would no longer deal with him - he was welcome to deal with anyone directly - which he did on numerous locations with no issues. I can work for whoever I choose. I have also always stated Howard has paid with no issues. The issues with him were personal and I have always made that clear. Any issues he has had here with the forums and/or others is on him - nothing to do with him. You make it sound as though I control others here - which I do not - I have no power on here except to control who I work with - if I had control of others and the forums, how has he dealt with anyone? Simple - I have no power or control. You disrespect every one thru such statements. The waste is you. Cry some more - harass some more and lets see if you can esrn a longer ban - hopefully a permanent one.

Some have been quick to attack Howard Sentell but where is the substance to back it up? One has to be fair and say the personal jabs and name calling only began when you aired out your dirty laundry in threads. That was when the accusations really got going. When you worked with Howard did you do everything 100% perfect? My own experience with Howard was quite different. We had no trouble at all. Has anyone put forward hard evidence of any impropriety on his part? What I see is verifiable proof of nothing only speculation and rumors. We should rely on facts and insist on a standard of proof before one goes about ruining a mans reputation.

[MoparMiningLLC]

To answer you - Howard and I had no issues until that day - no. He had asked me to find a set of notes - at 2 am that day I had located 2 of the 3. He on the same day contacted someone who had a set (I had previously contacted the same person who told me they didnt want to do anything related to the artist of these notes - I respected that and when Howard suggested contacting them - I expressed the request not to and stated I would find a set elsewhere - which I had with 2 of 3 notes) at the same time, my mother had a stroke/heart attack and was hospitalized- i asked howard to lay off the calls/texts/voicemails so I could deal with that - he would not - I blocked him as a consequence. Howard decided to reach out to them on his own and after several requests the individual offered to sell the set and asked me to escrow the deal - which I did - at the conclusion Howard tipped well - I returned it. I also let Howard know I would assist him no more after this deal and asked him to leave me alone. He constantly tried to reach out to me via multiple other platforms - totally dismissing my request. All of this was before Howard had a presence on forums.

He would bid in my auctions (knowing he was excluded) and would bid way over minimum bids (knowing his bids were invalid) and then claim I was losing money for the sellers.

I have merited a few of his posts and have always maintained that he would pay and that he and kaz were not the same people. i have even merited some of his posts - rightfully so as they were deserving of merit.

So long story short - my only issue with Howard is that he failed to respect personal space.

With Kaz - another story - put the selling of sheets of keys aside - he openly accepted Lealana coins from a mint knowing the maker of the coins did not authorize the sale - he was saying he knew it was wrong, but his desire to get the coims was greater. He then tried to auction the coins knowing they were essentially stolen. This lacks total integrity and represents his true nature. Kaz is a blight to the community - even banned for 30 days or however long it was - he still refuses to just be creator/buyer/seller etc and continues to attack people here. He has doxxed me he has pulled private photos from my fb - altered them to mock me/ridicule me and has posted them here - as well as sending them to others. Zero respect and zero tact. He has also threatened to confront me but then thst was an empty threat as well.

We have done this dog/pony show dozens of times - he denies all wrong doing and blames everyone else and claims conspiracy.

[Kazkaz27]

Deflection and derailment. That's your tactic. You're an admirable POS. You bring up those past events like they are relevant to how you yourself are and act. Half of which are just lies or far stretches of the truth. MJ was involved in the grading of those lovely Lealana coins and I took his advice in regards to them. Sheets of keys aside which had zero issues. Not to mention I could have made tens of thousands of dollars off of those coins but I gave them back to Noah because I had only the purest of intentions to begin with. I had held onto them for over a year before I even released them.  I attemped to contact smoothie in regards to them to give them back to him. Of course to no avail until there public release was I able to do that. I spent thousands of dollars purchasing them from the mint and gave them back freely. I lost thousands of dollars giving those coins back to Noah and I did so without an iota of fuss. Anyone who's been curious enough to contact me and ask me about the situation understands it perfectly. I purchased those coins from the mint. Gave them back to Noah at my own personal loss. I was open and transparent about it. I didn't hide my actions or lie about them. I took the advice from the most trusted member on the forum in regards to my handling of them.

Anyways! Again, Cheers! Happy 4th!

[MoparMiningLLC]

I’m not a fan of the mint for releasing a maker’s coins without permission or the seller who is profiting from someone else’s work.

The coins should have been returned to Smoothie or destroyed imo.

It was a thought of mine.

Although I decided at the end of the day, as a collector myself, I'd love the opportunity to have one.

Situationally speaking, I was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I'm not thrilled exactly with every aspect but it is a miracle these coins ever seen the light of day, therefore I’m a bit honored to have placed them in the light for other collectors to enjoy. 🙌

Side note: I wasn't aware you ever were a fan of mine. Some one should have told me😅

"purest of intentions"

you knew they were stolen - you admitted it - you knew they should be destroyed or returned and yet you still had them graded and still proceeded to attempt a sale of said stolen coins to line your pockets - sure, you gave them back to smoothie - after stacks pulled the auctions and smoothie demanded it.

Doing the right thing when forced is no great feat. You should have done the right thing in the first place.

And at your personal loss? when you make stupid decisions that you know are wrong - personal loss is expected - Smoothie should have pressed charged and had your ass tossed in jail. Pretty sure the value of the coins was high enough to make it a felony.

But hey, you claim to have "never had bad financial transactions" right? This sure sounds like a bad financial transaction. So keep on blaming me - keep on blaming the "cronies" and keep on acting like you are an innocent victim. Everyone sees thru it.

[Kazkaz27]

I’m not a fan of the mint for releasing a maker’s coins without permission or the seller who is profiting from someone else’s work.

The coins should have been returned to Smoothie or destroyed imo.

It was a thought of mine.

Although I decided at the end of the day, as a collector myself, I'd love the opportunity to have one.

Situationally speaking, I was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I'm not thrilled exactly with every aspect but it is a miracle these coins ever seen the light of day, therefore I’m a bit honored to have placed them in the light for other collectors to enjoy. 🙌

Side note: I wasn't aware you ever were a fan of mine. Some one should have told me😅

"purest of intentions"

you knew they were stolen - you admitted it - you knew they should be destroyed or returned and yet you still had them graded and still proceeded to attempt a sale of said stolen coins to line your pockets - sure, you gave them back to smoothie - after stacks pulled the auctions and smoothie demanded it.

Doing the right thing when forced is no great feat. You should have done the right thing in the first place.

And at your personal loss? when you make stupid decisions that you know are wrong - personal loss is expected - Smoothie should have pressed charged and had your ass tossed in jail. Pretty sure the value of the coins was high enough to make it a felony.

But hey, you claim to have "never had bad financial transactions" right? This sure sounds like a bad financial transaction. So keep on blaming me - keep on blaming the "cronies" and keep on acting like you are an innocent victim. Everyone sees thru it.

Lol, I wasn't forced at all. Mj was involved. Other people as well. I followed MJs advice on grading them and releasing them to the forum. I deny doing anything illegally and would love to see you back how id go to jail. I wanted to give them back to smoothie. I attempted through many people. Just didn't happen that way. Smoothie was a ghost until their release. I was happy to give them back. You made me out to be the perpetrator and the “victim”. You've thwarted me, Howard, and other contributing members on this forum through your influence. You maintain, continue and are set to do it again.

[MoparMiningLLC]

I’m not a fan of the mint for releasing a maker’s coins without permission or the seller who is profiting from someone else’s work.

The coins should have been returned to Smoothie or destroyed imo.

It was a thought of mine.

Although I decided at the end of the day, as a collector myself, I'd love the opportunity to have one.

Situationally speaking, I was stuck between a rock and a hard place.

I'm not thrilled exactly with every aspect but it is a miracle these coins ever seen the light of day, therefore I’m a bit honored to have placed them in the light for other collectors to enjoy. 🙌

Side note: I wasn't aware you ever were a fan of mine. Some one should have told me😅

"purest of intentions"

you knew they were stolen - you admitted it - you knew they should be destroyed or returned and yet you still had them graded and still proceeded to attempt a sale of said stolen coins to line your pockets - sure, you gave them back to smoothie - after stacks pulled the auctions and smoothie demanded it.

Doing the right thing when forced is no great feat. You should have done the right thing in the first place.

And at your personal loss? when you make stupid decisions that you know are wrong - personal loss is expected - Smoothie should have pressed charged and had your ass tossed in jail. Pretty sure the value of the coins was high enough to make it a felony.

But hey, you claim to have "never had bad financial transactions" right? This sure sounds like a bad financial transaction. So keep on blaming me - keep on blaming the "cronies" and keep on acting like you are an innocent victim. Everyone sees thru it.

Lol, I wasn't forced at all. Mj was involved. Other people as well. I followed MJs advice on grading them and releasing them to the forum. I deny doing anything illegally and would love to see you back how id go to jail. I wanted to give them back to smoothie. I attempted through many people. Just didn't happen that way. Smoothie was a ghost until their release. I was happy to give them back. You made me out to be the perpetrator and the “victim”. You've thwarted me, Howard, and other contributing members on this forum through your influence. You maintain, continue and are set to do it again.

I wont speak to what others did - because they have not said what they did - I speak to what you did - because you said you did it. Plain and simple.

Who bought the coins from the mint knowing that Smoothie did not authorize it? Mj? "other people"? No - you did - you even said it. And if Smoothie did not authorize the release of the coins and the mint sold them - and if you knew that he did not - then you bought stolen merchandise. There is no gray area - it is black and white.

Buying stolen merchandise knowingly is a crime in any state of our country - whether it is a felony or not depends on the value of the coins and each states limit. If you were "happy" to give them back you never would have tried to sell them.

I hold no influence over anyone - that is in your imagination and is seemingly based on your refusal to accept what you did is wrong - you never do after all because it simply has to be "Mopar's fault - he is controlling everyone" - it is a lie and you know it.

You are no victim but you are definetly a perp.

[Kazkaz27]

If I'm the perp who got harmed?

Smoothie got his coins back despite abandoning them for years.

[MoparMiningLLC]

If I'm the perp who got harmed?

Smoothie got his coins back despite abandoning them for years.

you do know that just because you had to give back the purchased stolen merchandise doesnt change the fact that you knowingly (admitted by yourself) purchased them. Getting caught and having to give it back doesnt mean you didn't perpetrate the attempted sale of stolen merchandise.

Someone who perpetrates a crime - once getting caught is not then free of the wrongdoing...

[Kazkaz27]

If I'm the perp who got harmed?

Smoothie got his coins back despite abandoning them for years.

you do know that just because you had to give back the purchased stolen merchandise doesnt change the fact that you knowingly (admitted by yourself) purchased them. Getting caught and having to give it back doesnt mean you didn't perpetrate the attempted sale of stolen merchandise.

Someone who perpetrates a crime - once getting caught is not then free of the wrongdoing...

I didn't need to, I wasn't forced too, and I had no obligation to give them back. I did so freely and willingly. No consequence on my personal end if I had kept them and sold them. I didn't initially buy “stolen merchandise” as you claim. I bought abandoned Lealana coins from the mint. If there was a crime committed it was never through me buying them or selling them. I bought them legitimately, I did my due diligence and did right by everyone I do business with.