Loan Defaulted [Slissy]

[shasan]

What happened:: Loan Defaulted

Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3335277
Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030169.msg66775126#msg66775126 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030169.msg66744953#msg66744953
Amount Scammed:  700$
Payment Method: USDT
Additional Notes: I have tried to contact with the user but not responded till now, so I am creating this thread and flag to avoid the checking the profile now and then to know the actiivty of the user. More important for the borrower is that s/he has taken multiple loan from the forum member from out of the forum. And the amount is big so I think the loan has been defaulted for the outside loan. If anyone can find out any alt account of this user then that will be appreciated.
Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3553

[shasan]

Reserve

[logfiles]

Trust flag has been supported and account tagged

For more context I am linking another thread about Slissy reputation about how he scammed forum users - Warning / High Default Risk - Slissy(u=3335277) - Unpaid Loan + Sudden Inactiviy

The total amount he owed all the members is about $1,500 subject to change due to fluctuating BTC price. This is a very unfortunate developement for a member than some of the forum members thought was someone trustworthy and respectable.

I was looking for Hhampuz's username in this thread because as far as I know, Slissy also owes Hhampuz 0.005 BTC from sidebets too. Everyone active in the BSFL telegram channel knows about this, so I guess much better if we mentioned it here so we all know how much total amount he should pay.

If we total everything he owes, it comes to around $1,500 (based on the current BTC price):
Trofo: $250 + 0.002 BTC
Hhampuz: 0.005 BTC
Shasan: $750

Let me know if I'm missing any other amounts that Slissy owes so we can total it here.

[Charles-Tim]

Trust given and flag supported.

I will not be following this thread. If he has paid the money, he can send me PM about it so that I can later go through this thread. I guess he will not have it in plan to pay the money back.

[yahoo62278]

Trust flag has been supported and account tagged

For more context I am linking another thread about Slissy reputation about how he scammed forum users - Warning / High Default Risk - Slissy(u=3335277) - Unpaid Loan + Sudden Inactiviy

The total amount he owed all the members is about $1,500 subject to change due to fluctuating BTC price.

Unfortunately fluctuating btc price can fuck ya hard, but it can also help you obviously. I take most loans in stable coin these days to prevent that mess from happening.

Shasan maybe lessen loan amounts to users as you seem to have been screwed out of thousands this year.

[Texac]

so I think the loan has been defaulted for the outside loan

I agree with you. If he didn't have any private loans outside, he would never have defaulted on this loan with you. We should practice the correct use of neutral tags. If those he owed money to had at least given him a neutral rating, then maybe you could have been a little more careful while giving him the second loan.

I have added negative trust and supported the flag. But I still hope he comes back and slowly pays off all the debits.

[hugeblack]

flag supported
Since Slissy last login was about a month ago, your only chance is to find Alt or make a reward for it.

[dkbit98]

Flag supported.
I checked his account and he doesn't look like a typical cheater and account farmer.
He was obviously a gambler so maybe he had other debts in his life outside forum, this is just my theory.

[albon]

Unfortunately fluctuating btc price can fuck ya hard, but it can also help you obviously. I take most loans in stable coin these days to prevent that mess from happening.

I think it's better to accept any popular stablecoins on the market.

A while ago, there was a manager holding BTC in escrow instead of converting it to a stablecoin. Later when he paid one of the victims of the Tomboi scam, the victim got a few thousand less because BTC dropped.

That’s why I usually suggest using stablecoins, especially for loans or escrow.

Shasan maybe lessen loan amounts to users as you seem to have been screwed out of thousands this year.

Yeah, that makes sense. It’s better to reduce loan sizes, especially when the borrower doesn't have a strong reputation, unknown user or hasn't built up a history of successful transactions with the lender.

[Nathrixxx]

I will advise that some kind of additional rules should be added to those who will have to take a loan from shasan, maybe someone to stand in place to watch for the lender or so, to serve as collateral in case of defaulting, I'm still surprised if someone can because of $700 leave the forum and is account just to evade paying back, how could it be that something tragic appointing him and he couldn't afford to come back to the forum, if you belongs to any local board, maybe they could be an extension to ask whether other members know in from his local board or not.

[SamReomo]

Flag supported, such a scammer should never get another chance because such people are chronic in scamming and it's better to take action against such scammers. A user with such good ranking scams because he/she wants to have money in the fast way, if he/she would do things in good way then he/she could earn far higher than the scammed amount just by renting the signature space for a few months. But scammers don't understand that so it's better to take action against such scammers.

[Rikafip]

I will advise that some kind of additional rules should be added to those who will have to take a loan from shasan, maybe someone to stand in place to watch for the lender or so, to serve as collateral in case of defaulting, I'm still surprised if someone can because of $700 leave the forum and is account just to evade paying back, how could it be that something tragic appointing him and he couldn't afford to come back to the forum, if you belongs to any local board, maybe they could be an extension to ask whether other members know in from his local board or not.

It's not only $700, he owed more money to some other people as well. But still, shouldn't be the reason to do something like this.

Having being talking to Slissy in some gambling threads, I honestly never thought that he would do it something like this, and just disappear whole owing people money as he seemed like a genuine member who wasn't here just to leech of the forum. Well, at least I hope it's that, and not something more serious that caused him disappear from bitcointalk.

[mindrust]

Trust flag has been supported and account tagged

For more context I am linking another thread about Slissy reputation about how he scammed forum users - Warning / High Default Risk - Slissy(u=3335277) - Unpaid Loan + Sudden Inactiviy

The total amount he owed all the members is about $1,500 subject to change due to fluctuating BTC price.

Unfortunately fluctuating btc price can fuck ya hard, but it can also help you obviously. I take most loans in stable coin these days to prevent that mess from happening.

Shasan maybe lessen loan amounts to users as you seem to have been screwed out of thousands this year.

Nope. He'll have to raise his profit margins instead. That's how insurance works. The more they get scammed, the more expensive their services get. He has to raise the premium until it covers the damage which the scammers cause and brings some meaningful profits on top of it. Scammers are an expense to his business.

[The Cryptovator]

Additional Notes: I have tried to contact with the user but not responded till now, so I am creating this thread and flag to avoid the checking the profile now and then to know the actiivty of the user. More important for the borrower is that s/he has taken multiple loan from the forum member from out of the forum. And the amount is big so I think the loan has been defaulted for the outside loan. If anyone can find out any alt account of this user then that will be appreciated.
Flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3553

Flag supported and left negative feedback from my end. Ping me if the problem is solved in the near future when the loan is repaid. But you need to be careful when giving a loan without collateral. Because when a high-ranking user scam for small money, it's really surprising to me since he could earn a more decent amount from the forum.

I consider this type of scam an account sale. Simply, they take a loan and move away from the forum. However, we still don't know what happened with that user; I wish he would come back to the forum and repay the loan. He might be sick or have other health issues or, otherwise, family issues. So don't give up.

[aioc]

I will advise that some kind of additional rules should be added to those who will have to take a loan from shasan, maybe someone to stand in place to watch for the lender or so, to serve as collateral in case of defaulting,

You mean like a co-maker, so if he defaulted on his loan, he will be the one responsible? We're all anonymous here; who will accept the role of co-maker, knowing that he is part of the responsibility for paying a loan he did not even take out? There could be other rules, but a co-maker or someone to take his place for me is not a good idea.

[logfiles]

Trust given and flag supported.

I will not be following this thread. If he has paid the money, he can send me PM about it so that I can later go through this thread. I guess he will not have it in plan to pay the money back.

He planned it a long time ago and there is no worry about you not following this thread afterwords.
1. Got two different loans from Shasan
2. Had multiple side bets with other members and these weren't/aren't going to be honored
3. Went offline a few days after last loan request was fulfilled to this date.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Real shame what became of Slissy, seemed a decent guy. I didn’t expect him to do something like this. I am assuming it is definitely an exit scam as it is multiple loans and he owes others money in lost bets.

I have supported the flag and will leave negative trust now. Sorry to those financially harmed by his actions.

[MoparMiningLLC]

it is always a shame to see someone build a decent reputation and then throw it away to exit scam in such a way. I guess can always hope they come back and repay the loans.

flag supported.

[Coyster]

Flag supported. Sorry for your loss Shasan, $700 is not so small, coupled with losses you've incurred from other defaulters of late. I think some of these guys actually didn't plan an exit scam, maybe stuffs beyond their control happened IRL that made it impossible. Though that is definitely not an excuse to go blank on your lender.

I will advise that some kind of additional rules should be added to those who will have to take a loan from shasan, maybe someone to stand in place to watch for the lender or so, to serve as collateral in case of defaulting,

That is not feasible. Would you stand as surety for a stranger on an internet forum. And what's going to happen if you do and the user defaults? It does not help the lender get their money back. It only means your own account would be tagged too, and that doesn't help anybody.

[examplens]

Why is there no feedback on his trust page that directly points to other loans and debts? At least the ones some of you are talking about here.
As far as I can see, all the negative feedback refers to this thread and loans against shasan, but there is nothing about him owing other members.
Shouldn't there have been at least a neutral tag from the moment such a debt arose, probably such feedbacks would have warned others to be more careful with new loans