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July 05, 2026, 03:42:12 PM
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I'm really amazed that, given the forum's strong commitment to freedom of speech, threads like this are allowed here.

It's one thing to allow all kinds of criticism on Meta in the name of free speech, but it's another to allow trash. This guy has already been tagged for being an AI spammer, and when I run the OP's text through detectors, I see this:





I already reported a similar trash thread once, and the report was marked as bad. Let's see if I have better luck this time.


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July 05, 2026, 04:06:09 PM
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^ To do this after already getting tagged for ai, the audacity! I gotta say though, the thread doesn't look ai on first glance (it doesn't flow the way ai sentences do), possibly it's been humanized. The way you posted images is also eye sore though.

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July 05, 2026, 04:10:07 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2026, 04:25:32 PM by Btcdeybodi
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Being a newbie does not make you inexperienced or that you didn't acquire a formal education, it only means you are new to the forum. If you can't read and write (though you must not be fluent) then i'm sorry here is not for you. We don't use vocabulary to write here all the time, but you should write what will be readable to others. This forum do not discriminate newbies but just because someone criticized you doesn't mean you should improve through the use of AI tools. I can see that you already have tags of an AI spammer, now how do you want us to help you when we don't even know if the whole of the text in the OP is also written by an AI? the problem with most newbies is that they are always eager to write, instead of reading and that is where the mistakes set in. A toddler must first learn to walk before learning how to run. We all started as newbies, and some of us even faced greater backlash but we didn't feel discouraged instead it became a stepping stone to becoming better.

I can see that you already have tags of an AI spammer, now how do you want us to help you when we don't even know if the whole of the text in the OP is also written by an AI?
We don't know? We do know the text is just AI garbage, have you seen my former post?
I saw it immediately I submitted my reply, I was writing and went to attend to something for over 30 minutes before I returned back and continued... my instincts didn't fail me after all!

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July 05, 2026, 04:12:42 PM
Last edit: July 05, 2026, 06:25:31 PM by eaLiTy
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Many beginners join the forum without knowing how to write well or without understanding the rules. Some come from poor countries, had to leave school to work, and never had the opportunity to get a good education. Even so, they want to learn and be part of the community.
Everyone is welcome here irrespective of their region, bank balance or education. The only thing you need to follow is the forum rules here.

Sometimes it feels like some people judge these users based on their first posts instead of talking to them, guiding them, and encouraging them. A beginner may write badly or create a poor topic simply because they are still learning. Everyone started without experience one day.
In my opinion, the forum should have a more relaxed section for beginners, where they could write without being afraid of being judged. A place to ask questions, share opinions, and learn from their mistakes. This would help many people improve and could even reduce the use of AI, because they would gain confidence to write in their own words.
There is a dedicated section for new users Beginners & Help, where you can ask questions without being judged. You mostly post in the Português (Portuguese) local board, which is a good start for learning the forum culture and improving your skills. As you already know, blatantly using AI will get your posts deleted, and you have had 36 posts deleted so far for failing to meet forum standards. I suggest sticking to your local board to participate and learn, as there is no compulsion to post across every section.

 
Some start using AI because they think they will never be accepted writing in their own way. Others stop asking important questions and may even fall for scams because they don't have enough guidance.
Like I mentioned above, sticking to your local board or the 'Beginners & Help' section is your best option. You can ask any questions you have there, and almost all members will be happy to guide you.

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Of course, in threads like this, there's always that idiot who rushes in to post just to meet his post quota without having read a single post other than the OP. What part of the fact that you're replying to text generated by a fucking chatbot don't you get? The thing is, you don't get it because you haven't read anything other than the OP.

I hope the thread gets locked or even trashed soon, otherwise this is going to become a spam megathread of people actually responding seriously to a fucking chatbot.
I was going through his post while typing this and took some time to submit the post button. Are you trying to establish something here. He clearly mentioned he is using AI and most of the posts are deleted due to that. Maybe try reading the full context next time before throwing a tantrum.


@Mods, The OP clearly confirms he is using AI, since he does not have a grasp of the language. OP is not wearing a signature to complete a quota. Once the user establishes a baseline, showing that he is struggling, you should not punish him for that and more over he started a topic in meta to share his grievance and not responding in any mega threads to increase his post. That is my opinion. The rest of the decision is yours.

Edit:
Since @nutildah confirmed that he is using AI to post even in his local board, I rest my case.

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July 05, 2026, 04:18:10 PM
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I can see that you already have tags of an AI spammer, now how do you want us to help you when we don't even know if the whole of the text in the OP is also written by an AI?

We don't know? We do know the text is just AI garbage, have you seen my former post?

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Of course, in threads like this, there's always that idiot who rushes in to post just to meet his post quota without having read a single post other than the OP. What part of the fact that you're replying to text generated by a fucking chatbot don't you get? The thing is, you don't get it because you haven't read anything other than the OP.

I hope the thread gets locked or even trashed soon, otherwise this is going to become a spam megathread of people actually responding seriously to a fucking chatbot.


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July 05, 2026, 04:23:49 PM
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and that makes the forum feel less social. Some beginners become afraid to share their opinions because they fear criticism.
I scanned your 3rd post with GPTzero, copyleaks, and stealthwriter, all scoring 90^% AI.
Quote from: bitlist.co/post/66625439
Great topic. The comparison between Bitcoin and Gold (Digital Gold) is based on the concept of 'Hard Money'. Both assets have a limited supply, which makes them a hedge against inflation. While gold is physically scarce, Bitcoin is mathematically scarce with its 21 million limit.
In 2026, we can see that Bitcoin has some advantages over gold: it's easier to transport, impossible to counterfeit, and highly divisible. Gold is great for preserving wealth over centuries, but Bitcoin is the gold for the internet age—global, borderless, and censorship-resistant. Both are essential for a diversified portfolio that seeks independence from central banks
How is it possible that after just two posts, a newbie concluded this forum was less social and then started writing an AI version? I don't see anyone responding to you with any substantive criticism for the bad post before you were reported.

Anyway, I'm also curious about your 4th post:
Thanks for the corrections! You are right about the supply; the halving mechanism is what truly defines its scarcity compared to gold's limited extraction.
Regarding the transaction speed, I was comparing it to the physical movement of gold, which can take days or weeks for international settlements, while bitcoin settles in minutes or hours on-chain (or seconds on Lightning). As for 'mining', I meant that one is a physical labor-intensive process and the other is a computational process (PoW), but both require massive energy. I'm here to learn, appreciate the feedback!

You thanked someone for correcting you,  even though you've never written it there before.

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July 05, 2026, 04:41:31 PM
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I was going through his post while typing this and took some time to submit the post button.


You were going through his post but clearly, you haven't read any of the replies, including this one.

Are you trying to establish something here.

Yes, that you made a fool of yourself with your answer.

He clearly mentioned he is using AI and most of the posts are deleted due to that.

Are you seriously going to keep acting like an idiot? The OP—or rather, the chatbot—speaks in the third person. It doesn't say: “I've used AI, my posts have been deleted because of it, and therefore blah, blah, blah.”

Maybe try reading the full context next time before throwing a tantrum.

I've read the "full context" as you say, which makes me realize that, aside from being a slacker who only reads the OP before replying, you have reading comprehension issues. Maybe read the replies in a thread that's only one page long—with just a couple of replies on the second page—before making a fool of yourself by replying.

FYI: context isn't read; it's understood.

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July 05, 2026, 04:53:45 PM
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I was going through his post while typing this and took some time to submit the post button.

You were going through his post but clearly, you haven't read any of the replies, including this one.
I am not here for a rate race. I take my time to post after reading everything, unlike you I do not churn out post within minutes.

Are you trying to establish something here.

Yes, that you made a fool of yourself with your answer.
I am not here to compete. If you think so, so be it.

He clearly mentioned he is using AI and most of the posts are deleted due to that.

Are you seriously going to keep acting like an idiot? The OP—or rather, the chatbot—speaks in the third person. It doesn't say: “I've used AI, my posts have been deleted because of it, and therefore blah, blah, blah.”
I am not ignoring the fact that he used AI. What is the content and his grievance. He clearly mentions he is not good with the English language and he uses AI. Someone who does not have a grasp of the language will communicate in the third person. There is no point in churning out tantrums to establish that you are the only Poker player here.  Tongue

Maybe try reading the full context next time before throwing a tantrum.

I've read the "full context" as you say, which makes me realize that, aside from being a slacker who only reads the OP before replying, you have reading comprehension issues. Maybe read the replies in a thread that's only one page long—with just a couple of replies on the second page—before making a fool of yourself by replying.

FYI: context isn't read; it's understood.
The only one with reading comprehension issues here is you. If you actually read my replies instead of throwing a tantrum, you would see that I explicitly called out the user for having 36 deleted posts including the ones written with the use of AI. Pointing out an account's specific moderation history proves I looked deep into the user's background, not just the OP. Drop the toxic attitude and actually look at the facts before making a fool of yourself.

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July 05, 2026, 05:31:03 PM
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Everyone you see here was once a newbie or beginning in both Bitcoin and the forum. Everyone here went through the phrase you're speaking. It doesn't matter what rank you are; if you write rubbish, people will always call you out on it, so it's not exclusive to newbies. The difference is that the senior members have been here a while and have gained that experience to speak up, so even though there are still some who constantly write rubbish, the ratio is low compared to newbies.

Sometimes when I look at my earliest posts on the forum, I cringe. Sometimes I am moved to delete them, but I don't because that is part of my journey.
If you take the "attack" you receive without looking at what the person is trying to say to you, then you won't learn, and when you don't learn, you won't grow.
If you are actually ready to learn, then don't always claim you're right and look into yourself and find ways to improve.
Nothing a person says about you here does anything to you (except in false accusation or tainting your reputation). The usual being rude or trolls adds nothing or removes nothing from your life. Don't let those things discourage you.

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The only one with reading comprehension issues here is you. If you actually read my replies instead of throwing a tantrum, you would see that I explicitly called out the user for having 36 deleted posts including the ones written with the use of AI. Pointing out an account's specific moderation history proves I looked deep into the user's background, not just the OP. Drop the toxic attitude and actually look at the facts before making a fool of yourself.

You're an idiot who read the OP and came here to post your reply without reading a single response in the thread, and now you're trying to justify yourself when you're nothing more than an idiot who replied to a chatbot as if it were a human. You're just as much of an idiot as the guy I'm about to quote—let's see if this moron also tries to justify what he wrote with the same kind of bullshit you spout.

And then, here we go again.

Everyone you see here was once a newbie or beginning in both Bitcoin and the forum. Everyone here went through the phrase you're speaking. It doesn't matter what rank you are; if you write rubbish, people will always call you out on it, so it's not exclusive to newbies. The difference is that the senior members have been here a while and have gained that experience to speak up, so even though there are still some who constantly write rubbish, the ratio is low compared to newbies.

Sometimes when I look at my earliest posts on the forum, I cringe. Sometimes I am moved to delete them, but I don't because that is part of my journey.
If you take the "attack" you receive without looking at what the person is trying to say to you, then you won't learn, and when you don't learn, you won't grow.
If you are actually ready to learn, then don't always claim you're right and look into yourself and find ways to improve.
Nothing a person says about you here does anything to you (except in false accusation or tainting your reputation). The usual being rude or trolls adds nothing or removes nothing from your life. Don't let those things discourage you.

While you're at it, you might as well delete this one, since you're such a lazy assfuck, you haven't even bothered to realize that you're replying to a chatbot.

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July 05, 2026, 06:07:15 PM
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While you're at it, you might as well delete this one, since you're such a lazy assfuck, you haven't even bothered to realize that you're replying to a chatbot.

I don't know what your problem is, but I'm definitely not the cause of it. If you are frustrated, don't take it out on me; I had no hand in your frustration.
You don't need to be insulting to let me know it's an AI chatbot, and I can delete my post if necessary. I read most of the replies in the first page of the thread, and I didn't see anything to imply it's an AI-generated text. You also don't expect me to check every post to see if it was AI-generated before I reply.
So either let me know about something politely, or you don't let me know at all, because I have no idea why your first instinct is to insult.

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Lol, this thread has suddenly got entertaining.

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July 05, 2026, 06:14:05 PM
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Topics like these are the most evident proof of the user not being here for legitimate reasons.  OP could have written this text all by them selves and what I said still stands in my opinion.

I have participated on multiple Forums in the past and never did I feel the need to write a Topic begging for mercy.  Even if I got insulted and 'pushed away'.  But these Forums did not have signature campaigns so there is that.

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Lol, this thread has suddenly got entertaining.
They went from giving advice to brawling from one page to another!

 
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July 05, 2026, 06:16:06 PM
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Like I mentioned above, sticking to your local board or the 'Beginners & Help' section is your best option. You can ask any questions you have there, and almost all members will be happy to guide you.

OP even uses AI to post in his native language. I told them to message me after 30 days to consider removing the tag. They never stopped using AI! Not even to write in their own language.  Roll Eyes

@Mods, The OP clearly confirms he is using AI, since he does not have a grasp of the language. OP is not wearing a signature to complete a quota. Once the user establishes a baseline, showing that he is struggling, you should not punish him for that and more over he started a topic in meta to share his grievance and not responding in any mega threads to increase his post. That is my opinion. The rest of the decision is yours.

What a terribly uninformed and tone-deaf take.

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Like I mentioned above, sticking to your local board or the 'Beginners & Help' section is your best option. You can ask any questions you have there, and almost all members will be happy to guide you.

OP even uses AI to post in his native language. I told them to message me after 30 days to consider removing the tag. They never stopped using AI! Not even to write in their own language.  Roll Eyes

@Mods, The OP clearly confirms he is using AI, since he does not have a grasp of the language. OP is not wearing a signature to complete a quota. Once the user establishes a baseline, showing that he is struggling, you should not punish him for that and more over he started a topic in meta to share his grievance and not responding in any mega threads to increase his post. That is my opinion. The rest of the decision is yours.

What a terribly uninformed and tone-deaf take.
If he is using AI even to post in the local board, then it is definitely a tone-deaf take. I will strike that off. 👍

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July 05, 2026, 07:33:48 PM
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Unfortunately, we have come to the conclusion that only people with thick skins can survive in this forum, even though this not said but it seem to be like a spoken rule. However that’s a good community survive because it might be flooded with people whose interest is just to milk the forum but however from what I have read on the first page op you are not just concerned about the toxicity of the forum towards beginners but because you got attacked and filtered out.

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