Is ANY coin even Attempting Mass Adoption, Seriously!!!!

[Spoetnik]

Trying to get the public to adopt insecure crapcoins just undermines confidence in the whole blockchain technology.

The first thing should always be to create something absolutely secure before pushing it at the public.

Anything less is fiduciary irresponsibility, scamming the public into throwing their money away on insecure garbage.

Is even namecoin secure enough? Heck is even bitcoin secure enough?

If any are, it would be those two. But do we need even more hash power in them before they are secure enough to be responsibly promoted to the public?

For sure neither Litecoin nor DOGE are secure enough, as DOGE showed. DOGE taught us that just some stupid meme can conjure up almost overnight more hashing power than Litecoin had, thus that Litecoin was not secure...

-MarkM-

they are all oblivious to anything other than finding ANY excuse to mine Flappy coin or whatever..
i don't think they even try and hear or see or understand the ramifications of their behavior in the slightest.
when you said "undermines confidence" my ears perked up lol

what i see and have harped on is the public perception of things.. as in the people who don't know what crypto stuff is.
they hear stuff like a massive rip off like GOX and China cracking down on exchanges and dog meme coins pushed as a replacement for bitcoin..
and they think Bitcoin itself is a ponzi scheme lol ...so what the hell do these guys think is going to happen if random people come here and see this crap ?
we need marketing for blah blah coin ? uhhh no that's retarded lol

Keep pushing each one of your individual scammy clone coins for your own greedy reasons and see what it gets you.. hint: a scene that will not exist soon enough.
And no i don't buy the game and shitty scam routine all you guys keep pulling.. Noble coin ? Carbon coin ? or who gives a shit coin ? lol
There is no way the guy will be planting trees as he states and the coin was posted to make him money.. reality !
If the coin cloners really wanted to help all they would have to do is join an existing legit coin team.. but they find some bs excuse to make their own.

99% of all these coins are pure scammy lying bullshit stunts to make money nothing more.
and most of you out there know it too but play along posting lies, hype and propaganda etc to keep the Pyramid scheme going so you can make money on insert scam coin name.
you all know it will kill the scene long term and gradually kill off the amount of new users coming in and gradually force the governments hands
so that they keep encroaching on our scene more and more with more and more regulation etc.
no one out here cares in the slightest and are happy as long as they make money dumping alts for BTC to fiat right now.. while pretending to support crypto along the way.

and they will do a sell off and dump and run and hide when it's time to say i told you so later on !
leaving the new guys + gullible holding the bag.. broke.

The smart thing to do would be to collectively put our foot down and say enough is enough.. our behavior is toxic and self destructive.
and we need to narrow down the amount of coins to support and break the clone coin game vicious cycle once and for all..
a free market abused is tomorrows regulated market.

smarten up or get ready to dump your alts at any time !
and you all know how fast they can tank so use your brains.. your treading on thin ice cloning coins or playing scammy games with fake Noble coins or supporting them.
Only so many of you are going to be able to pull the Cryptsy buck passing game.. the whole it wasn't me it was "user demand" bullshit game.
actually in reality cryptsy staff makes coins so what does that tell you ?

game over this scene is already dead.. greedy selfish pigs can't help themselves.. clock is ticking
say thank you to the cloning and scamming pricks guys they ruined it for all of us !

120+ days later ..looks like i was right huh ?

April 07, 2014, 02:12:58 AM

[graffix]

Trying to get the public to adopt insecure crapcoins just undermines confidence in the whole blockchain technology.

The first thing should always be to create something absolutely secure before pushing it at the public.

Anything less is fiduciary irresponsibility, scamming the public into throwing their money away on insecure garbage.

Is even namecoin secure enough? Heck is even bitcoin secure enough?

If any are, it would be those two. But do we need even more hash power in them before they are secure enough to be responsibly promoted to the public?

For sure neither Litecoin nor DOGE are secure enough, as DOGE showed. DOGE taught us that just some stupid meme can conjure up almost overnight more hashing power than Litecoin had, thus that Litecoin was not secure...

-MarkM-

they are all oblivious to anything other than finding ANY excuse to mine Flappy coin or whatever..
i don't think they even try and hear or see or understand the ramifications of their behavior in the slightest.
when you said "undermines confidence" my ears perked up lol

what i see and have harped on is the public perception of things.. as in the people who don't know what crypto stuff is.
they hear stuff like a massive rip off like GOX and China cracking down on exchanges and dog meme coins pushed as a replacement for bitcoin..
and they think Bitcoin itself is a ponzi scheme lol ...so what the hell do these guys think is going to happen if random people come here and see this crap ?
we need marketing for blah blah coin ? uhhh no that's retarded lol

Keep pushing each one of your individual scammy clone coins for your own greedy reasons and see what it gets you.. hint: a scene that will not exist soon enough.
And no i don't buy the game and shitty scam routine all you guys keep pulling.. Noble coin ? Carbon coin ? or who gives a shit coin ? lol
There is no way the guy will be planting trees as he states and the coin was posted to make him money.. reality !
If the coin cloners really wanted to help all they would have to do is join an existing legit coin team.. but they find some bs excuse to make their own.

99% of all these coins are pure scammy lying bullshit stunts to make money nothing more.
and most of you out there know it too but play along posting lies, hype and propaganda etc to keep the Pyramid scheme going so you can make money on insert scam coin name.
you all know it will kill the scene long term and gradually kill off the amount of new users coming in and gradually force the governments hands
so that they keep encroaching on our scene more and more with more and more regulation etc.
no one out here cares in the slightest and are happy as long as they make money dumping alts for BTC to fiat right now.. while pretending to support crypto along the way.

and they will do a sell off and dump and run and hide when it's time to say i told you so later on !
leaving the new guys + gullible holding the bag.. broke.

The smart thing to do would be to collectively put our foot down and say enough is enough.. our behavior is toxic and self destructive.
and we need to narrow down the

120+ days later ..looks like i was right huh ?

April 07, 2014, 02:12:58 AM

Supercool! When I grow up I wanna be just like you!

[generalizethis]

http://www.ted.com/talks/seth_godin_on_sliced_bread

Pay attention to what he says about otaku, without a group like that, it's tough to imagine any coin succeeding no matter how much money they pump into advertising and hype.

[Spoetnik]

@graffix
I speak TheCryptoTRUTH™

That would make a good forum account name.. wonder if it's taken ?

And "when you grow up" ?
..hold on to your lunch money son

Anything to add to the topic here though graffix ?
Do you see any coins that seem to be pushing for mass adoption ?
aside from Monero of course..
They are leading the way with their MEW project where they collected donations
so a NON-Team member millionaire could make a forum game topic (like his old one he made money from)
all for "powerful" levels of public mass adoption.. HE SAID.
Retro Virtual City
The topic / game is in fact a paid advertisement and SPAM.
I reported the day he posted it and MOD's here denied it !
And i can quote him saying it was a PAID adoption (advertising) topic.. so why is it still here ?

Scamming people here and lying your ass off to flog your gay shit coin is not "Mass Adoption"

[generalizethis]

I have you on ignore sputz, but I'm guessing you said something akin to all coins are scams and will fail (or whatever). Why don't you make one BIG post stating why you think all the coins will fail, go get something to eat, a job, a hobby, a GF, inner peace, basically a life, and if you are right, you can come back in a couple years and rub our faces in it. You'll be better for it and still get to be right without wasting what little life you've been granted. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the one sided conversation I get to have with you since I put you on ignore. More people should try it--it's easy, just guess what sputz is spouting off about and reply without any sense of needing to defend against his troll-tactics.  

[Spoetnik]

he plugs his ears and shouts at me.. whatever LOL  

This shows some of what i just said..

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=776479.msg12619507#msg12619507

That is the page on the MEW topic i mentioned.
Then the Polonibox Troll box archive site has Risto's comments logged i believe.
(anything else will be posted publicly here - use forum search)

This is 2 years worth of bad behavior from the Monero crew..
What i have a problem with is it has been 100% denied for 2 straight years.
No matter how bad a stunt gets pulled and publicly with PROOF (like i said)
They all just cry FUD / Troll ..exactly like generalize this just did !

No i am not trolling.. your pissed off because i casted a spotlight on Monero.
And rather than admitting it or trying to improve things you go into denial / attack mode.
Nothing is going to change because of this.

And that matters a lot because do YOU want to be invested in a project with 2 years of bad history ?
I find the fact that all along Monero guys have said endlessly they do not advertise in any way here.. disgusting.
I said they have been bumping that "Speculation" topic to the top of page one forever
simply to make sure the word "Monero" is at the top of the page.
When i had looked at, it was all just MSN chat.. random crap.
It's not what is said by them that matters it's their actions !
It seems they spend all their days & nights contradicting themselves non stop.

It boils down to me that we have a group of dishonest people.
Pretty simple.
Now i know some of you couldn't care less about that but i do.

What generalizethis *could* have said was.. know what ?
Spoetnik is right about that Risto / MEW "Retro Virtual City" donation drama..
And we are doing something abut the problem etc.
How does Risto get his hands on donated Monero funds ?
When David Latapie is holding funds while hiding from French Police drama.
The Monero guys have screamed non stop both are not a part of the team.
But those two seem to be the only ones i see making serious and major decisions FOR MONERO !

The more you dig on Monero the uglier it gets going back 2 years now.
ALL OF IT IS 100% denied by their crew of spammers who don't spam
by Team Members who are not team members.

What did i LIE about something here ?

Calling me a TROLL FUD'ing again ?

I am not Risto who spent Monero donation money (with out asking anyone)
on a Forum Game topic as he said as an "ADOPTION" asset <--- the TOPIC here generalizethis

[Vicodin]

It seems that Ethereum, Iota, and NEM are making real moves in THE REAL WORLD.

what others?

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It seems that Ethereum, Iota, and NEM are making real moves in THE REAL WORLD.

what others?

Curious, what exactly do you mean by "the real world"?  Those coins are used even less than bitcoin itself.  It's also interesting to see the shitcoins like worldcoin and quark that got brought up early on in this thread.  Are they even still alive?

[btcbug]

Neucoin appears to be attempting mass adoption through games, internet radio, etc. Not saying this coin is worth a shit, but you wanted an example.

"Rapid consumer adoption will be powered by freemium distribution of NeuCoin tokens to users, who will be able to try using NeuCoins for games, tipping and premium content for free - a massive advantage over micropayment platforms that require consumer to use Bitcoin - because fewer than 0.1% of internet users have Bitcoin."

http://www.neucoin.org/en/earn

[alyssa85]

The thing is Spoetnik, the market cap of alts is continuing to grow. How do you account for that? I know that I've started to use Doge to move coins from exchange to exchange instead of BTC due to transaction delays. I can't be the only one finding an actual use for alts because BTC is falling down.

[TPTB_need_war]

Re:  Is ANY coin even Attempting Mass Adoption, Seriously!!!!

Yes and seriously.

[okiefromokc]

Well until any crypto-coin including bitcoin is directly connected to a debit smart card, exactly like a bank checking account, Jane and Joe Public and the masses will not accept a cryptocurrency.

[Blockchain.Ventures]

Well until any crypto-coin including bitcoin is directly connected to a debit smart card, exactly like a bank checking account, Jane and Joe Public and the masses will not accept a cryptocurrency.

It will take more than just that.
Even if that is possible, users will need a reason to switch from the debit card and bank account they already have to another type.

[cryptonoob312]

I feel like people aren't smart enough to grasp the technology yet. The only way it can go mainstream is if it's being used without people knowing it's being used. I hate to say it but most mainstream People don't care how their money works as long as it works.

[bitcerto]

I hate to say it but most mainstream People don't care how their money works as long as it works.

Nailed it.

[Snail2]

Not really. Everybody talking about how to achieve mass adoption, but nobody doing anything meaningful. Perhaps DOGE was the most widely used coin but because of the lack of real word services it's stagnating. Neucoin is trying to do something to be adopted as a widespread micro transaction coin but I don't see too much success on that yet.

[BitcoinNational]

No coin is going to have Mass Adoption.
1. That is centralization
2.  That is bad, m'kay
3.  Mass Adoption would entail raising $100Trillion evaluation, crazy numbers, and would never find stability for years.

But 100s of coins can establish communities and be worth $10s of Millions.  And can trade against each other (compete).
And 40-100 coins will be generally known but most who delve into the crypto space.  And these top tier coins will hold $100 Million caps.

BTC is still Lord of the Crypto realm.  ETH has come knocking but is set for 1-2 year bear market due to super hype cycle.  Look at the BTC chart ... ETH is at late 2013 on the pattern.

Besides...
Mass Adoption will come in the form of web app use (think paypal platforms) but have on public display their holdings.
And likely the masses will deal in their regional denomination (pesos dollars sheckles).
Crypto will remain a back room that manages the value, not unlike the bank system today, 99% of the public are not involved.

tldr;

I feel like people aren't smart enough to grasp the technology yet. The only way it can go mainstream is if it's being used without people knowing it's being used. I hate to say it but most mainstream People don't care how their money works as long as it works.

[TheTribesman]

Kobocoin is attempting Mass adoption in Africa which is the largest mobile fintech market on the planet by a very long way. I believe that cryptocurrencies can take on and beat the other offerings available. Mobile fintech from Africa is now being exported to other parts of the globe.

Read more at these links:
Mobile Banking - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/why-mobile-banking-is-the-key-to-financial-inclusion
Where is Mobile Banking most popular - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/11/where-is-mobile-banking-most-popular/

Kobocoin has had it's challenges over the last year since being fairly launched on 7th February, 2015, but we're still here putting one foot in front of the other. We're now starting to get recognition and partnering with other projects that are also trying to make it happen.

Kobocoin latest update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920290.msg14312587#msg14312587

I know most people on this board only see BTC, and now some of the new 2.0 services. I'm also invested in some of them but Africa might surprise you all and take a real lead in crypto adoption.

EDIT: Also, Kobocoin been listed as one of the Top 100 FinTech companies in Africa and been nominated for an African Fintech Award

The African FinTech 100 and The African FinTech Awards

[StinkyLover]

Kobocoin is attempting Mass adoption in Africa which is the largest mobile fintech market on the planet by a very long way. I believe that cryptocurrencies can take on and beat the other offerings available. Mobile fintech from Africa is now being exported to other parts of the globe.

Read more at these links:
Mobile Banking - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/03/why-mobile-banking-is-the-key-to-financial-inclusion
Where is Mobile Banking most popular - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/11/where-is-mobile-banking-most-popular/

Kobocoin has had it's challenges over the last year since being fairly launched on 7th February, 2015, but we're still here putting one foot in front of the other. We're now starting to get recognition and partnering with other projects that are also trying to make it happen.

Kobocoin latest update: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=920290.msg14312587#msg14312587

I know most people on this board only see BTC, and now some of the new 2.0 services. I'm also invested in some of them but Africa might surprise you all and take a real lead in crypto adoption.

EDIT: Also, Kobocoin been listed as one of the Top 100 FinTech companies in Africa and been nominated for an African Fintech Award

The African FinTech 100 and The African FinTech Awards

Interesting reading, but 0.1BTC daily trading volume on YoBit?? You've got a long way to go!

[Days]

he plugs his ears and shouts at me.. whatever LOL  



What generalizethis *could* have said was.. know what ?
Spoetnik is right about that Risto / MEW "Retro Virtual City" donation drama..
And we are doing something abut the problem etc.
How does Risto get his hands on donated Monero funds ?
When David Latapie is holding funds while hiding from French Police drama.
The Monero guys have screamed non stop both are not a part of the team.
But those two seem to be the only ones i see making serious and major decisions FOR MONERO !

The more you dig on Monero the uglier it gets going back 2 years now.
ALL OF IT IS 100% denied by their crew of spammers who don't spam
by Team Members who are not team members.

What did i LIE about something here ?

Calling me a TROLL FUD'ing again ?

I am not Risto who spent Monero donation money (with out asking anyone)
on a Forum Game topic as he said as an "ADOPTION" asset <--- the TOPIC here generalizethis

Who is Risto you talking about & are you talking about the Monero donation money from the community?