Would You Bet on a Team That's Fighting Over Bonuses?

[Frankolala]

It will not affect my betting decision because I assume that the team also knows that they are playing to win and make their country proud of which if they win the cup, they could even get more prizes that could compensate for the bonus and definitely they are also going to pay them the bonus, so they might not intentionally want to underperform because of that, though they might have had a dispute because of that but I believe they won't let themselves perform poorly cuz of that.

It's only a player that doesn't like his country that will go and represent them and willingly choose to underperform in that competition Evan at that, he's doing himself and not the country because if anyone wants to talk about the country poor performance, they will definitely refer it to players who went there to represent their country. In big competitions, players try their possible best to bring the best in them in order to promote themselves.

[Cointxz]

Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

The thread title is a bit click bait given that your thread main question is regarding the players bonus itself not on bet which is not related to gambling or sports gameplay.

Being a representative is not a voluntary position especially if the person being ask to represent a country are professionals which has a salary regardless if they participate or not on their respective league.

Government should step on this matter since athletes that representing their country are expecting incentives to become motivated in addition on carrying their country flag honor.

[Sammye3]

It's not about the team but the commitment that comes with every single game. Before Senegal was eliminated, I dont think that they ever played like a team that did not want to win, there was never a time that it was displayed in their performance on pitch so the answer is "yes" I would bet on the team based on performance and not the latter.

Additionally, paying players their bonuses should not be a problem for the country as that could be seen as a way of supporting them as they serve their country. A country that has football at heart should not compromise or feel entitled to the players service without a reward. These players would never be called to the World Cup if their clubs were not doing the needful, so it shouldn't be a debate but a necessity.

[TopTort777]

Imho teams should focus on showing best they can, on result and earning final trophy than have money on their mind. If they play only if they are paid well, then they should not belong to World Cup. Their performance when they are playing for clubs - that is their job and they get salary for that. Playing for national team should not be paid. It is an honor represent your country, not a matter of money.  If someone isnt satisfied with bonus or payment for playing for your own country, then leave and your place will be taken by people who want to play and are even ready to pay to take your place.

[Peanutswar]

Here in my country reality wise is some of them does not have a sponsor at first, all of the expenses will cater with the team or the organizations and once they get name or even win the even that's the time they will recognize by the business as a potential for being marketing from them and sponsors. Now if the team is already well known and have a sponsor there is a contract needed to be as part of their partnerships such as representing add with this is the rewards. Others play for the rewards, but others play for recognitions and roles. The higher the recognition the higher salary of course so why not perform well than throwing the game and your career.

[Outhue]

As a football bettor, I often wonder what really motivates players.
Personally, I find it strange when money becomes part of representing your country. For example, Senegal reportedly faced tensions over unpaid player bonuses before the World Cup.
Many national team players already earn excellent salaries at Europe's biggest clubs. Compared to those contracts, national team bonuses are often a small part of their income. That's why I've always felt that representing your country should be about pride first, not money.
To me, wearing your national team's shirt is one of the greatest honors in football (Well, That's something priceless, it's a big honor). I can understand paying the coaching staff, especially when they're foreign professionals hired by the federation, but I'm less convinced when it comes to players representing their own country.
Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

I understand where you coming from but I will want my country's football team to demand for their right too, it's not about money I get it but some country are not appreciating the people who represent them, they treat them like piss of shit, and that's why money must be involved, atleast if the country doesn't recognise them they got paid.

Don't be too quick to judge, I know what's going on with sports association in some countries, corruption and greed makes eats up some countries to the extent of taking over their sports association too, if they can't be honoured they can be proud that they do it for money, what do you think will happen when your country doesn't recognise you as one of them? Do not too quick to judge, I am no saying this is what happened, I am only saying this base on what I have seen took place in my own country.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

As a football bettor, I often wonder what really motivates players.
Personally, I find it strange when money becomes part of representing your country. For example, Senegal reportedly faced tensions over unpaid player bonuses before the World Cup.
Many national team players already earn excellent salaries at Europe's biggest clubs. Compared to those contracts, national team bonuses are often a small part of their income. That's why I've always felt that representing your country should be about pride first, not money.
To me, wearing your national team's shirt is one of the greatest honors in football (Well, That's something priceless, it's a big honor). I can understand paying the coaching staff, especially when they're foreign professionals hired by the federation, but I'm less convinced when it comes to players representing their own country.
Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

Sorry but I don't like your reasoning or way of thinking, let's bring a few things into perspective and let's compare..
The president of a country is elected to lead and represent a country in all fronts, but they are paid huge amount of money in salaries, and yet, thats still not enough, they still loot public funds..
Now, talk about the commissioners, the law makers, the senators, the special advisers, the special assistants, the local government chairmans, the counsellors and so on..

All of this people are either elected or appointed to represent the country in one way or another, they get paid huge salary plus plenty allowances, but still, every one this people still loot tax payers money at every opportunity they get, and even when opportunity doesn't show up, they create the opportunity themselves.

Now, you saying that the players who work hard to make the country more proud than those in government ever can should play for free and not expect payment or bonuses from the same country they are playing for? How naive can your way of thinking be?

[Africolo]

As a football bettor, I often wonder what really motivates players.
Personally, I find it strange when money becomes part of representing your country. For example, Senegal reportedly faced tensions over unpaid player bonuses before the World Cup.
Many national team players already earn excellent salaries at Europe's biggest clubs. Compared to those contracts, national team bonuses are often a small part of their income. That's why I've always felt that representing your country should be about pride first, not money.
To me, wearing your national team's shirt is one of the greatest honors in football (Well, That's something priceless, it's a big honor). I can understand paying the coaching staff, especially when they're foreign professionals hired by the federation, but I'm less convinced when it comes to players representing their own country.
Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

It depends on the agreement the FA might have entered into with the players before a game is being played and if they had promised them some bonuses to be paid if they are able to win a match and they won the game then they should stick to fulfilling the promised as negotiated, it's a great honor to be called up by the national team and as such the footballers need to represent them with same honor and pride but at the same time they need to be rewarded for their labour and hardwork which gives motivation to the team and coaches for them to put more effort in the games.

Some players are ignored and after sacrificing their time and energy for the national team they stand to gain nothing from it, that's very bad so if it requires the players to negotiate before playing for the national team they should do it because there is reward in labour and everyone deserves rewards after putting in much effort.

[Zlantann]

Imho teams should focus on showing best they can, on result and earning final trophy than have money on their mind. If they play only if they are paid well, then they should not belong to World Cup. Their performance when they are playing for clubs - that is their job and they get salary for that. Playing for national team should not be paid. It is an honor represent your country, not a matter of money.  If someone isnt satisfied with bonus or payment for playing for your own country, then leave and your place will be taken by people who want to play and are even ready to pay to take your place.

There should be an agreement or contract between the players and the football federation of the country. In terms of a contract should include how much they would earn, or if their services if it is without any financial compensation. Players who are comfortable with the terms will sign it, while others might decide not to play for the national team.

But it is shameful that these players and coaches are promised some amount as bonuses and are not paid. Some of them might not have clubs where they earn, and they see the national team as a source of income. My point is that both parties should always abide by the terms of the contract.

A team that is having bonus issues wouldn't perform well. They are not happy with the refusal or delay in the payment of their remuneration, so they might not give their best. Betting on them is risky.

[maydna]

A country should reward their national player because they representing country in the events. It is normal if national team players negotiate bonuses to the government but many players don't think about that. If they playing in the international events, it is enough because they could get many offers after the event ends. But that will not affect to my betting decision especially if I see they have a chance to beat the opponents. I only think about the winning because I don't know how the bonuses from their government will given.

[MArsland]

It would be logical to think that their motivation would be undermined and that their chances of winning would be reduced. But let's think that for many players this is probably the only opportunity to play in a World Cup, and that even if they are not paid what they are entitled to, they know that it is a world showcase and that their prestige is at stake, and therefore they could still give everything. Or, as they do in some Japanese strikes, perform above all expectations to attract attention in this other way, to claim what they deserve.

Both must be balanced, both the emotional aspect of representing the country at the World Cup and the bonuses offered. Players deserve both, as it is the responsibility of the national team management and the country's leaders to reward their efforts. Even they don't advance further, at least they can participate in the World Cup.

[Ishicryptic]

If a country is very poor and their players understands that their government cannot afford to pay them that is understandable but if a country can afford to pay match bonuses for the men that are representing them there is no reason to delay or not pay. I think that the reason why players protest mostly is because they know that their country is capable to give match bonuses according to their capacity but corrupt politicians are stealing so much. If a country can afford to pay their politicians who steal so much money why wouldn't they pay the players that are playing for the glory of their country.

I wouldn't be very confident to bet on a national team that is having bonus issues I would think that they wouldn't have enough motivation to play their best games. No matter the rate of confidence that I have on a team I will always use small amounts to place my bet.

[Obim34]

Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

Yes, team players should negotiate their bonuses before any game, are the federation not aswell making profits from any stage of the tournament, all outstanding bonuses must be paid, that is why players stops training until they make the move to clear all outstanding payments.

No, it won't affect my betting decision, it is not a good factor to consider, even if it might affect match outcome.

[Achalugo BTC]

Any government that refuses to show appreciation to the players is a greedy government, it is not easy for a player to volunteer themselves or come out boldly to defend thier country, did you know what it takes? I believe there are Capable players out there that sees it as stress some feel that the amount they are offering them is not worth it so for that they will decide to sit back and watch. So any player that stood up on his own to represent the country should not be neglected but show them appreciation, is more like giving them courage/ motivation  to do more.

Exactly, lack of appreciation will make them to feel discourage and disappointed as it shows that their efforts is not recognised and this will make them not to stand up to defend their country next time again and this is why some players prefer to show their talent else where, as they will be valued and respected there than in their own places. That is why no matter how small the appreciation might be, its essential for the governments to show how grateful they are to them for playing so hard.

[lombok]

Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

Yes, team players should negotiate their bonuses before any game, are the federation not aswell making profits from any stage of the tournament, all outstanding bonuses must be paid, that is why players stops training until they make the move to clear all outstanding payments.

No, it won't affect my betting decision, it is not a good factor to consider, even if it might affect match outcome.

The problem of bonus issues is that often it becomes a derailment to the concentration of a team when playing a match. It can be a dangerous point on which to rely to bet, however. Monetary considerations may still be irrelevant as the referee blows the whistle and competition goes on. The rational decision when it comes to taking bets is to disregard this aspect since the results of matches are hard to precisely know by depending only on field problems.

[xenomorfo]

Exactly, lack of appreciation will make them to feel discourage and disappointed as it shows that their efforts is not recognised and this will make them not to stand up to defend their country next time again and this is why some players prefer to show their talent else where, as they will be valued and respected there than in their own places. That is why no matter how small the appreciation might be, its essential for the governments to show how grateful they are to them for playing so hard.

Look appreciation and government in the same sentence just don't go well. States are vile people who violently repress peaceful dissent.
Unfortunately they are criminals who don't care about people at all, otherwise we wouldn't be here to discuss, indeed bitcoin wouldn't even exist, the only defense tool.

[Bryan jessy]

I think this is one of the problem some football teams are facing right now, this delay payment can influence their performance negatively because who will tolerate that after putting so much effort and the payment is delayed that was not part of the agreement at the very beginning so the federation should try and stick to the agreed term rather than doing otherwise, there are some country whose football performances is slacking this could be one of the causes, that payment was to serve as an acknowledgement and a reward for their efforts and sacrifice but if it is delayed or not given at the said time it looks like the effort was not appreciated.

[Findingnemo]

We can say it is a pride to represent the nation on the biggest stage but as for as the players are concerned, this is their profession and this is how they make money so they have to utilize every opportunity that comes in their way because they are just one injury away from their whole football career might be gone.

So there is nothing wrong with taking the opportunity to make more money and as a gambler, you can consider this or see this is a way for the players to play even better than who they are.

[Versatile_choice]

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Exactly, lack of appreciation will make them to feel discourage and disappointed as it shows that their efforts is not recognised and this will make them not to stand up to defend their country next time again and this is why some players prefer to show their talent else where, as they will be valued and respected there than in their own places. That is why no matter how small the appreciation might be, its essential for the governments to show how grateful they are to them for playing so hard.

Your point is valid, and of course not showing appreciation could make the players to change decision. there are cases where a player leaves their country to nationalize in another country and I'm sure they did that on purpose, and we the fans/ citizens will be saying alot of bad things about the player things like; the player is so full of himself, but if you make a proper investigation to know the reason behind that, then you would find out that it wasn't the player's fault but the government. So the government should do well to show appreciations no matter what.

[Dunamisx]

Do you think national team players should negotiate bonuses, or is representing your country reward enough?
And if you found out a team was dealing with bonus disputes before a match, would it affect your betting decision?

The more professional way of handling things like this is to lay them out in black and white, let there be agreement on what the conditions should be for any match play before it begins, this will ensure that no side is affected or cheated in the end.

Secondly, I don't think they should be able to affect me from gambling irrespective of the condition that may be involved, because this is a personal dispute they are supposed to handle from within without allowing it to escalate even before the start of the match, during, or after.