Can small investors actually make good profit with bitcoin ?

[Charcol]

I suspect there are still people who lack knowledge about Bitcoin investing—such as not fully understanding how the Bitcoin market works—and who make large purchases all at once, which makes them prone to panic when the market price drops below their purchase price.

In fact, many potential bitcoin investors lack the friends who would tell them that it is not such a difficult task to invest bitcoin, especially if you use the only correct DCA strategy. But, unfortunately, many are afraid to take the time to understand bitcoin and blockchain, and therefore they are not participants in investing. I also want to note that in today's fast pace of life, many people succumb to the false idea that money can and should be earned quickly, but in fact 4-10 years is not such a long time that will pass unnoticed if you just set out to invest your discretionary income using the DCA strategy. I think the most important thing for such investors is just to develop a habit, psychologists say that this has been happening for the third time. Therefore, it is easier than it seems to embark on the path of sound investment.

Our modern day society is filled with people who are more concerned with what can make a double/triple of their capital in a short period of time, and you will find it difficult to see those who will want to make investments that will take up to 5 years for it to grow before yielding positive returns. Gaining proper knowledge about Bitcoin is a long journey for them, therefore making them to take risky moves on trading/investing in meme coins for immediate market doubles. For proper investment time frame, 4 years as a minimum, but for those looking for quick ROI, a month is barely good enough, that's why the rate of gambling is on a high increase.

Long-term investment requires patience, as well as the right amount of investment. Because many people believe in the long-term potential of Bitcoin, but they invest money that creates stress for them even during the temporary decline of Bitcoin. This forces them to deviate from their plans.

Therefore, the best approach for an investor is to consider their financial situation when determining the amount and make a consistent decision. The success of investment is not just about waiting 5 or 10 years, but about creating a plan where the investor can follow their strategy even during market fluctuations.

[BluebloodCXVI]

are there other ways to make money with bitcoin as a small investor rather than just buy and hold?

Small investors cannot make good profits from Bitcoin in any other way than buying and holding Bitcoin. Because good profits in a short time never come from small investments. Just as a good profit can be generated from a large investment in a short time, there can also be large losses. When an investor makes small investments but continues his investment by following DCA, he can gradually accumulate a good amount of Bitcoin. In this case, even big investors sometimes cannot make the same profits because if the big investment is not held for a long time, then they cannot retain their profits. To get good profits from a small investment in Bitcoin or any big investment, there is no alternative to holding it for a long time.

Let’s not confuse the amount invested with the rate of return; if Bitcoin goes to 3x, it goes 3x for everyone that’s it.
Don’t make the mistake of thinking that because you put in $1,000 that means you’re gonna get a better percentage return than someone who put in $100, no you won’t, you’re only gonna make more in actual dollars because you started with more.

[Gragebox]

Long-term investment requires patience, as well as the right amount of investment. Because many people believe in the long-term potential of Bitcoin, but they invest money that creates stress for them even during the temporary decline of Bitcoin. This forces them to deviate from their plans.

Therefore, the best approach for an investor is to consider their financial situation when determining the amount and make a consistent decision. The success of investment is not just about waiting 5 or 10 years, but about creating a plan where the investor can follow their strategy even during market fluctuations.

You pointed out well, that the amount invested is as important as patience. People realize that Bitcoin can have long-term benefits but often invest more than they can accept to lose. When it falls, the pressure is too high and the sellouts come out of panic with even bigger losses, whereas the plan was that they would hold for 5 years.

I think an emergency fund and investment only with money you do not have to use should be enough. And it is better to decide on the amount of investment before entering the market than to make emotional decisions on the way.

Long-term investing does not just mean buy and forget about it for 5 or 10 years, but always know what to expect from reality and how to prepare for it. If the amount invested is appropriate, then it is much easier to stay the course.

[adultcrypto]

are there other ways to make money with bitcoin as a small investor rather than just buy and hold?

Small investors cannot make good profits from Bitcoin in any other way than buying and holding Bitcoin. Because good profits in a short time never come from small investments. Just as a good profit can be generated from a large investment in a short time, there can also be large losses. When an investor makes small investments but continues his investment by following DCA, he can gradually accumulate a good amount of Bitcoin. In this case, even big investors sometimes cannot make the same profits because if the big investment is not held for a long time, then they cannot retain their profits. To get good profits from a small investment in Bitcoin or any big investment, there is no alternative to holding it for a long time.

You obviously do not know what profit means if not you would understand that everyone be it small or big investor will male the same percentage profits if they invested the same time and held for the same duration provided bitcoin yielded profits. Your statement is so much discouraging to small investors because they can make profits from bitcoin just like big investors but both of them will make more profits or stand a chance of making good profits when they hold for long.

[Primark]

For someone with a relatively small amount of capital, I'd probably recommend a simple approach: buy a fixed amount of Bitcoin every month regardless of the price, almost like a retirement plan. Over a long enough period, I think the results can be significant.

For someone with more capital, where something like a 5% monthly return actually makes a meaningful difference, I'd consider trading Bitcoin as another option — but only if they have a genuinely profitable strategy and the ability to manage its risk.

So I wouldn't say small investors necessarily need to find a way to multiply their money quickly. The right approach depends a lot on how much capital we're actually talking about and what kind of return would be meaningful for that person.

It doesn't seem like a good idea to start trading just because you have a lot of capital. Because the Bitcoin market is the same for everyone. The Bitcoin market doesn't look at anyone's capital. If the price of Bitcoin increases by 3 times, both small investors and large investors will get the same percentage return. So it's not certain that trading repeatedly instead of holding it for the long term will be more profitable. You have calculated the profit in trading only with a large amount of capital. But your loss can also be quite large due to your wrong decisions.

5% return per month sounds quite attractive to me. But unfortunately, you won't be able to achieve such results consistently. It is not possible to beat the market for a long time, even experienced traders make mistakes. Tell me, have you been successful trading with your large capital for several years and survived?

Personally, I prefer to save a little bit regularly according to your ability. It keeps me stress-free.

[Obulis]

What do you mean by a "small investor" in terms of capital? I think that's quite important to the discussion.
Personally, I believe Bitcoin can generate very significant returns over the long term through simply holding it.

For someone with a relatively small amount of capital, I'd probably recommend a simple approach: buy a fixed amount of Bitcoin every month regardless of the price, almost like a retirement plan. Over a long enough period, I think the results can be significant.

For someone with more capital, where something like a 5% monthly return actually makes a meaningful difference, I'd consider trading Bitcoin as another option — but only if they have a genuinely profitable strategy and the ability to manage its risk.
So I wouldn't say small investors necessarily need to find a way to multiply their money quickly. The right approach depends a lot on how much capital we're actually talking about and what kind of return would be meaningful for that person.

Trading is retarded, and surely bad advice.

Guys (even poor guys) should concentrate on ongoing, persistent, consistent, regular and perhaps even aggressive buying of bitcoin for 4-10 years or longer, and then he can reassess at various points along the way whether he has enough or more than enough bitcoin.

Beginner investors into bitcoin could shoot for accumulating anywhere between 5% and 25% of their income into bitcoin (as long is that money is within their discretionary funds), and of course, the one who is able to invest at the higher percent levels would have greater chances of reaching enough or more than enough bitcoin in a shorter period time as compared with guys who are ONLY able to invest at the lower percentage levels, and sure sometimes, guys might not have enough discretionary income in order to be able to invest at the higher levels, and many normal people tend to struggle to consistently invest/save more than 10% of their income on an ongoing basis.

This retardation is why trading is directly proportional to gambling or directly likened to gambling and gambling has been a bad advice since time immemorial.
Honestly, having enough capital should mean meeting up enough Bitcoin or more than enough Bitcoin very early it should not necessarily become a temptation into trading that can along the line even affect your hodling capacity as the case may or the way things happens (unforseen circumstances).

[ASloveapg]

I suspect there are still people who lack knowledge about Bitcoin investing—such as not fully understanding how the Bitcoin market works—and who make large purchases all at once, which makes them prone to panic when the market price drops below their purchase price.

In fact, many potential bitcoin investors lack the friends who would tell them that it is not such a difficult task to invest bitcoin, especially if you use the only correct DCA strategy. But, unfortunately, many are afraid to take the time to understand bitcoin and blockchain, and therefore they are not participants in investing. I also want to note that in today's fast pace of life, many people succumb to the false idea that money can and should be earned quickly, but in fact 4-10 years is not such a long time that will pass unnoticed if you just set out to invest your discretionary income using the DCA strategy. I think the most important thing for such investors is just to develop a habit, psychologists say that this has been happening for the third time. Therefore, it is easier than it seems to embark on the path of sound investment.

Our modern day society is filled with people who are more concerned with what can make a double/triple of their capital in a short period of time, and you will find it difficult to see those who will want to make investments that will take up to 5 years for it to grow before yielding positive returns. Gaining proper knowledge about Bitcoin is a long journey for them, therefore making them to take risky moves on trading/investing in meme coins for immediate market doubles. For proper investment time frame, 4 years as a minimum, but for those looking for quick ROI, a month is barely good enough, that's why the rate of gambling is on a high increase.

Long-term investment requires patience, as well as the right amount of investment. Because many people believe in the long-term potential of Bitcoin, but they invest money that creates stress for them even during the temporary decline of Bitcoin. This forces them to deviate from their plans.

Therefore, the best approach for an investor is to consider their financial situation when determining the amount and make a consistent decision. The success of investment is not just about waiting 5 or 10 years, but about creating a plan where the investor can follow their strategy even during market fluctuations.

In long-term investment, determining the right position sizing, investment amount is equally important. Even if the investor believes in the long-term potential of Bitcoin, if his investment amount is excessive compared to his financial capacity, then it is natural to feel fear and stress during a temporary major decline. This can often lead to decisions like panic selling going beyond the plan.

So the real issue is how much investment will be possible to maintain the plan despite the market volatility. It is important to consider emergency expenses and financial liabilities before investing and to use only the money that will not be needed in the near future for investment. Because the ups and downs of the market are not in our control. But maintaining discipline in how much to invest and how much risk to take and when to invest is in our control. Ultimately, the appropriate investment amount and realistic plan form the basis for sustaining long-term investment.

[Brownfish-B]

For someone with a relatively small amount of capital, I'd probably recommend a simple approach: buy a fixed amount of Bitcoin every month regardless of the price, almost like a retirement plan. Over a long enough period, I think the results can be significant.

For someone with more capital, where something like a 5% monthly return actually makes a meaningful difference, I'd consider trading Bitcoin as another option — but only if they have a genuinely profitable strategy and the ability to manage its risk.

So I wouldn't say small investors necessarily need to find a way to multiply their money quickly. The right approach depends a lot on how much capital we're actually talking about and what kind of return would be meaningful for that person.

For small amounts you propose to save up a certain amount of BTC a month but if you have large amounts of capital then trading might be considered as a 5% monthly gain would be significant. But that's the problem with your argument!

The large amount of capital does not make a 5% monthly return an easy reality. Indeed, the more capital you have, the more impact an undesirable trading choice will have. You have already said that trading needs a profitable trading strategy and why size of your trading capital should be a big consideration when selecting a trading strategy?

The principle of the use of (DCA) with a fixed amount is correct for small investors but one should never look for quick profits just because the amount of investment is small. The same applies to big investors too. Having a big capital doesn't mean you have to make a certain percentage return every month.

The size of the capital is not what it's all about. The important factor is what risk you have the stomach for how long you can wait to access the funds and whether the approach you're taking is a long term strategy. Otherwise the 5% monthly return goal could simply turn into a trading addiction.

[Princess Leah]

In long-term investment, determining the right position sizing, investment amount is equally important. Even if the investor believes in the long-term potential of Bitcoin, if his investment amount is excessive compared to his financial capacity, then it is natural to feel fear and stress during a temporary major decline. This can often lead to decisions like panic selling going beyond the plan.

So the real issue is how much investment will be possible to maintain the plan despite the market volatility. It is important to consider emergency expenses and financial liabilities before investing and to use only the money that will not be needed in the near future for investment. Because the ups and downs of the market are not in our control. But maintaining discipline in how much to invest and how much risk to take and when to invest is in our control. Ultimately, the appropriate investment amount and realistic plan form the basis for sustaining long-term investment.

That's why it's important that people should only invest with their discretionary income and avoid being overaggresive with accumulation so there won't be any need for fear when there's a decline. For instance if someone use money for upkeep to invest and the market drops, it would definitely trigger fear cause the person would be worried about how to recover the money.

 Every investor should know how to manage their cashflow, the ones that yet to know should learn it cause it's important, and should also know the right fund for investment then build up emergency and reserve funds cause they're important, using any fund outside discretionary fund is putting the investment at risk of quick withdrawal.

[Betwrong]

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Bitcoin investment is worth giving a trial, and in as much as I would advise people to invest in it I will also let them know that it is wrong to invest with loan money because Bitcoin investment is not a Short term investment or scheme that you will invest today and start expecting reward in a week or two.

That's what I 'm saying. Say, someone took a loan in Summer this year, when Bitcoin was $60k, bought BTC with the money and cash out at $80k today. Would he be in profit? Yes. But could anyone predict in July that BTC will be $80k+ in September? No. No one could predict that. Bitcoin is unpredictable.

In bitcoin investment you have to exercise patient before you could get a better return even though there's no guarantee about the return but one thing I believe is that whoever that held his or her bitcoin for Long probably 5-10 years or more will not regret ever holding Bitcoin for Long term.

Yeah, that for sure. I would even say that holding BTC for 4 years would be most likely enough to make a profit.
(Sometimes I regret talking about Bitcoin as of a thing you can make a profit from. Bitcoin is an amazing form of money first of all. We shouldn't forget about that.)

[RockBell]

This retardation is why trading is directly proportional to gambling or directly likened to gambling and gambling has been a bad advice since time immemorial.
Honestly, having enough capital should mean meeting up enough Bitcoin or more than enough Bitcoin very early it should not necessarily become a temptation into trading that can along the line even affect your hodling capacity as the case may or the way things happens (unforseen circumstances).

They are somewhat related because if you trade and lose, there is no way that your money will return. Therefore, it would be better to understand your analysis so that you have a guide of what you are doing instead of just gambling everything away. If you know what you are doing, we will be able to do important things because, aside from trading, we need to understand how to manage the risk of trading because if you don't, you will lose a lot of money. But the problem people have is that they want to make quick money and it does not work that way. Trading is more complicated and the earlier the better we understand that because trading is a responsibility and we need to take it seriously, to aviod losing so much money.

[SPIDERMAN008]

This retardation is why trading is directly proportional to gambling or directly likened to gambling and gambling has been a bad advice since time immemorial.
Honestly, having enough capital should mean meeting up enough Bitcoin or more than enough Bitcoin very early it should not necessarily become a temptation into trading that can along the line even affect your hodling capacity as the case may or the way things happens (unforseen circumstances).

They are somewhat related because if you trade and lose, there is no way that your money will return. Therefore, it would be better to understand your analysis so that you have a guide of what you are doing instead of just gambling everything away. If you know what you are doing, we will be able to do important things because, aside from trading, we need to understand how to manage the risk of trading because if you don't, you will lose a lot of money. But the problem people have is that they want to make quick money and it does not work that way. Trading is more complicated and the earlier the better we understand that because trading is a responsibility and we need to take it seriously, to aviod losing so much money.

The problem with trading is that you have to buy it right time it is not ta only  job that create complications. In short time trading you have to buy it at the right time, you also have to decide to sell Bitcoin at the right time. Depending on how quickly you want to take profit, the price of Bitcoin will increase according to expectations. You have to do the same thing again . But it is not possible for Bitcoin to increase according to your expectations in every time . That's when traders have problems. They sell Bitcoin at the wrong time, they can't predict the market.

So it is difficult to make a profit by trading Bitcoin to get rich in the short term and most of the time people lose. But it is possible to make a profit from trading. But it is like gambling, if the market price increases according to your expectations and time, then you will make a profit. But this same event will not happen every time . So you will not be able to make a profit consistently . And if you cannot make  profit, then you will have to face loss. So there is no need to create unnecessary mental pressure. I think it is more convenient to do DCA regularly with  long term mindset.

[Primark]

In bitcoin investment you have to exercise patient before you could get a better return even though there's no guarantee about the return but one thing I believe is that whoever that held his or her bitcoin for Long probably 5-10 years or more will not regret ever holding Bitcoin for Long term.

Yeah, that for sure. I would even say that holding BTC for 4 years would be most likely enough to make a profit.
(Sometimes I regret talking about Bitcoin as of a thing you can make a profit from. Bitcoin is an amazing form of money first of all. We shouldn't forget about that.)

I would never suggest that holding for four years will guarantee profit. Because calculating profit with a specific period of time like this can be wrong. Four years can be an example of a market cycle. But not every investor has the same purchase price, financial situation and financial needs. If someone buys at a relatively high price and is forced to sell within 4 years for family or emergency needs, the result may be different. Again, for some, four years may be reasonable.

I think that, especially for small investors, if they buy regularly with discretionary income, excluding necessary expenses, rather than waiting for profit, they are more likely to be in a better position than the person who has been calculating profit from the beginning. In particular, I would suggest that instead of making four years a profit period, their personal savings goal, regular purchasing power and ability to hold for a long time are the basis of the plan. Their position is more likely to be strengthened.

[Tetu100]

This retardation is why trading is directly proportional to gambling or directly likened to gambling and gambling has been a bad advice since time immemorial.
Honestly, having enough capital should mean meeting up enough Bitcoin or more than enough Bitcoin very early it should not necessarily become a temptation into trading that can along the line even affect your hodling capacity as the case may or the way things happens (unforseen circumstances).

They are somewhat related because if you trade and lose, there is no way that your money will return. Therefore, it would be better to understand your analysis so that you have a guide of what you are doing instead of just gambling everything away. If you know what you are doing, we will be able to do important things because, aside from trading, we need to understand how to manage the risk of trading because if you don't, you will lose a lot of money. But the problem people have is that they want to make quick money and it does not work that way. Trading is more complicated and the earlier the better we understand that because trading is a responsibility and we need to take it seriously, to aviod losing so much money.

Trading is not even an option to me, not with all the potential risk involved. I don't and will never think in that direction or even think of telling a friend about it. However, it is more saved when you hold it strong than trading it, I know nothing is guaranteed not even the holding that I'm emphasizing on but there's no way you can compare these two because holding is way better in this case.

Furthermore, one real fact in trading is that, even those that claim to be an expact in trading also lose money how much more someone that's just coming up. But when you invest and hold for about 4 to 10 years time, there is no way you wouldn't have something tangible, or something you can build future with. Perhaps, this sound sweet but that's the undiluted truth people failed to acknowledge. Hence, if you must benefit from bitcoin then investing is just the smooth way of achieving it. Short term trading may look good and attractive but it can liquidate your entire finance in a tinkle of an eyes.

[batang_bitcoin]

But when you invest and hold for about 4 to 10 years time, there is no way you wouldn't have something tangible, or something you can build future with. Perhaps, this sound sweet but that's the undiluted truth people failed to acknowledge. Hence, if you must benefit from bitcoin then investing is just the smooth way of achieving it. Short term trading may look good and attractive but it can liquidate your entire finance in a tinkle of an eyes.

I can attest that holding bitcoin for a long time is profitable. I am not a big investor but the amount that I have invested in the past which is considerably very small have grown in time. But I have to endure selling at point of time for so many years and I think it's worth it even if you're a small holder and starting with the little that you have as an investor. Trading will make you some profit but it is inconsistent trust me.

[Tetu100]

But when you invest and hold for about 4 to 10 years time, there is no way you wouldn't have something tangible, or something you can build future with. Perhaps, this sound sweet but that's the undiluted truth people failed to acknowledge. Hence, if you must benefit from bitcoin then investing is just the smooth way of achieving it. Short term trading may look good and attractive but it can liquidate your entire finance in a tinkle of an eyes.

I can attest that holding bitcoin for a long time is profitable. I am not a big investor but the amount that I have invested in the past which is considerably very small have grown in time. But I have to endure selling at point of time for so many years and I think it's worth it even if you're a small holder and starting with the little that you have as an investor. Trading will make you some profit but it is inconsistent trust me.

Apart from it being inconsistent, it's highly risky. Sometimes you can even lost everything along the line.

Even in my circle of friends, there are few of them that ventured heavily in trading, but where are they as we speak, most of them are even struggling to feed due to how shattered their finance has been. However, is not as if I'm trying to condemn trading but it's advisable we didn't see it as the real deal. Investing should be the key focus. Then maybe occasional if neccesary, we can still be using little amount that we can afford to lose and check if things can go a bit in our favour. But i can't assured you of anything I must be very sincere here.