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August 01, 2026, 11:00:21 PM
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Huh?  What is the "basic knowledge" that you believe newbies need to learn before getting started?

Do they have discretionary funds?

Do they know from where they are going to buy?

Do they have an ability to make reasonable choices for themselves?  or you want to treat them like a 12 year old merely because they are new to bitcoin?  Do you presume the bitcoin newbie to be 12 years old?
I do understand your point. A newbie doesn't needs to know everything pertaining bitcoin investment before they can start accumulating bitcoin. Once they are able to figure out there discretionary income,where they can buy bitcoin, and can be able to handle there financial decisions. Then they can start accumlating bitcoin and every other thing that they need to know, they can learn as they continue with there bitcoin investment.
As of getting to know about self custody, security and how bitcoin works. All of this they can learn as they continue investing in bitcoin.

Guys has a way of being so fond of making the road to investment look very hard. They think they need all the knowledge just to start buying bitcoin ongoingly. But they don't need to know all things before buying. In addition to what you say I also think it is important for person to also have common sense in addition to having discretionary income. Don't just assume that all person will make the right decisions in their investments, and that is why common sense is important here. Not every person can invest $50 and not all person can also invest with $100. For some of those person that can't, that amount can look to o much even when that amount is their discretionary. It is through common sense that person can be able to figure out the capacity of what they can buy ongoingly and not burn out while doing it.

With common sense they can figure out their expense and all the other places their money goes to like building emergency money and all of that and it is also with this common sense they can be able to know what is remaining after all expenses have been do, so they can be able to ongoingly invest with it.

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August 01, 2026, 11:58:11 PM
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As long as you keep holding for a long term without sell, as the years goes by the value of Bitcoin will keep increasing so no matter how little you can be able to be accumulating consistently for a long term definitely you will surely make a good profit at the end of your overaccumulation stage.
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Today at 01:31:02 AM
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As long as you keep holding for a long term without sell, as the years goes by the value of Bitcoin will keep increasing so no matter how little you can be able to be accumulating consistently for a long term definitely you will surely make a good profit at the end of your overaccumulation stage.
Bitcoin has been increasing as the year go though it will drop and still increase again this has been the nature of Bitcoin from start it's volatility makes it go up and down but we can't be very sure that we will make good profit even after holding long, we are not guarantee of anything as we are not sure yet if we will be at profit side or lost since the future can't be predicted.

As a volatile asset folks are advise to accumulate Bitcoin with their discretionary income since nothing is guaranteed it's not where you put all your hope and income on because you may get disappointed or you may not also, the idea why investors should invest with their discretionary income is incase things goes right or wrong if things goes right better and good if it goes wrong nothing much was lost just discretionary income.

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Today at 01:56:43 AM
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I have been thinking lately about how investing in bitcoin is actually a great idea but also it can be really hard to make profit off bitcoin if you're a small Investor
Imagine this:
If bitcoin is at $64k and me as a small investor bought with $1k, for me to make 100% profit bitcoin will have to hit $128k, that is still feasible
But if I'm hoping to make a 200% profit on my investment bitcoin price will have to get to $256k, how achievable is that ? And if it's achievable how long is it going to take

Which brings me back to my question
Can small investors actually make good profit with bitcoin?

Or are there other ways to make money with bitcoin as a small investor rather than just buy and hold?

Yes, it's undeniable that if you only invest $1,000 in Bitcoin and don't increase it, the returns won't be significant. However, if you have a steady income, whether monthly or every few months, I recommend continuing to buy Bitcoin as much as you can. By making regular purchases over a four-year period, I think the results could be quite good.
Especially if you can hold your Bitcoin for two cycles, I think your potential for profit could be even greater. This is just a suggestion, but it's what I'm currently implementing.

Like you, I started out with a small amount of capital when I invested in Bitcoin. But over time, I've continued buying Bitcoin, and I plan to hold it for at least two cycles. Furthermore, if you're asking how to make money with Bitcoin other than buying and holding, I don't know. Trading Bitcoin, I think, is quite risky. Especially if you're using multiples ( future ). So in this case, I can't offer any other advice than investing.

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I have been thinking lately about how investing in bitcoin is actually a great idea but also it can be really hard to make profit off bitcoin if you're a small Investor
Imagine this:
If bitcoin is at $64k and me as a small investor bought with $1k, for me to make 100% profit bitcoin will have to hit $128k, that is still feasible
But if I'm hoping to make a 200% profit on my investment bitcoin price will have to get to $256k, how achievable is that ? And if it's achievable how long is it going to take

Which brings me back to my question
Can small investors actually make good profit with bitcoin?

Or are there other ways to make money with bitcoin as a small investor rather than just buy and hold?

Small investors who invest in Bitcoin just once without any plan to increase their allocation to build up their Bitcoin holdings then he will find it very difficult to make a good profit. Bitcoin does not offer quick returns in the short term. And the people who have made good profits from Bitcoin are those who invested in it for the long term. Perhaps you shouldn’t expect to get what you want too quickly. I think you should adopt a strategy of gradually increasing your Bitcoin investment allocation. You can use dollar-cost averaging to achieve gradual compounding. If Bitcoin’s value doubles or even more then you should have already realized a good profit by that point. So I personally believe that small investors can maximize their future returns if they consistently set aside a portion of their investment each month allowing them to experience significant gains in their portfolio over time.

I believe that the most common issue with small investors is that they tend to look at the Bitcoin price as opposed to how their investments are performing in their portfolios. Just waiting to see BTC rise from $64k to $256k and then profiting off the increase is not the only way to generate substantial profits. The sensible way is to continue to do so via DCA if you have the funds. Regular small purchases can accumulate over a number of years. Bitcoin has been an impatience killer for sure.Bitcoin has been a patient rewards machine, not a quick profits machine. A small investor who regularly invests and is buying through the rallies and downturns of a market, will end up faring much better than someone who made only one investment and sits on the sidelines waiting for a massive price increase.

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Today at 03:37:06 AM
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As long as you keep holding for a long term without sell, as the years goes by the value of Bitcoin will keep increasing so no matter how little you can be able to be accumulating consistently for a long term definitely you will surely make a good profit at the end of your overaccumulation stage.

You are right about investor's holding their Bitcoin for long term, but I will not want to sound as if I am very certain about the future of Bitcoin. Because the truth is that none of us really know how Bitcoin is going to perform in the future or how many months or years it will actually take Bitcoin to reach a new all time high, so i think it is just better for all small investor's to just remove their mind from short term profits and starts putting their focus on accumulating Bitcoin with what he or she can actually afford to leave untouched for long term.

If along the line the price of Bitcoin preforms very well, then that is really a good achievement for all investor's. But I think it will be better if small investors have a realistic mindset when starting their investment journey, because keeping your expectations real actually help you from being disappointed or even making any emotional decisions.

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Today at 04:23:32 AM
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Well said, which is why every new investor ought to acquire basic knowledge of investing in Bitcoin, both its pros and the cons of it before deciding on an investment method because without verify  the information they receive, they will keep making mistakes by applying the wrong principles which could ruin their plans, which will help them to remain responsible and disciplined kos that's how small investors can profit from their investment.
Huh?  What is the "basic knowledge" that you believe newbies need to learn before getting started?
Do they have discretionary funds?

Do they know from where they are going to buy?
Do they have an ability to make reasonable choices for themselves?  or you want to treat them like a 12 year old merely because they are new to bitcoin?  Do you presume the bitcoin newbie to be 12 years old?
I think the questions already raised here by JJG explains it all. Off course, that one is a Bitcoin newbie doesn't mean they know nothing or have no human sense and/or reasoning, and thus, they could still reason and know how best to do what is okay and keep there investment safe provided they have the ability to make reasonable decisions.

What's major is the ability to figure out there discretionary. Once this is done, then every other thing as regards starting is secondary. They could begin buying gradually while they personally discover some other things while in the market already. Trying to look at basic knowledge as a criteria to starting in a broader perspective might seem to ambiguous as many may be looking at it from the angle of learning or knowing a whole lot of things before getting started. Whereas, the concept of basic knowledge simply connotes you having been able to figure out your Discretionary and a common sense.

Basic knowledge is not figuring out discretionary funds and common sense.

Basic knowledge is a vague and ambiguous standard that other people try to proclaim to be required for others, and others do not need anything besides discretionary funds and perhaps knowing from where they are going to buy their first bitcoin. They do not need to know anything else, except to the extent that they might impose requirements upon themselves.  That is their choice not something imposed by others, since if a guy has discretionary funds and he knows from where he can buy bitcoin, then he can get started and buy his first bitcoin (satoshis).

Well said, which is why every new investor ought to acquire basic knowledge of investing in Bitcoin, both its pros and the cons of it before deciding on an investment method because without verify  the information they receive, they will keep making mistakes by applying the wrong principles which could ruin their plans, which will help them to remain responsible and disciplined kos that's how small investors can profit from their investment.
Huh?  What is the "basic knowledge" that you believe newbies need to learn before getting started?
Do they have discretionary funds?

Do they know from where they are going to buy?
Do they have an ability to make reasonable choices for themselves?  or you want to treat them like a 12 year old merely because they are new to bitcoin?  Do you presume the bitcoin newbie to be 12 years old?
This is the summary of what is needed by newbies to get started already and I love how you made it easy for everyone to understand. So  long as the answer to the questions you asked are affirmative, then a newbie is all set to get started and while at it, he will begin to see the need for other things... this is called learning on the process.

If a bitcoin newbie sees something that raises a red flag or feels that he needs to know something besides his having discretionary funds and knowing from where he is going to buy his first bitcoin, then that is up to him to decide the extent to which he is comfortable or not and whether he can either start buying or maybe to reduce the amount or maybe he will decide not to buy any until he resolves some issue that he believes is important to resolve.  There are no "basic knowledge" requirements, as guys keep proclaiming to be the case.

It is not right to assume that newbies need all the knowledge of Bitcoin from the very beginning, that is not even possible because Bitcoin is broad and anyone waiting to understand everything before getting started may not even get started. There is really no replacement for experience and that can only be gotten when someone is already involved in doing the job already.

I keep giving the example of a guy who knows that he has $100 available each week to buy bitcoin, yet on purpose he determined that he is only going to buy $30 per week until he gets more comfortable. Why can't he do that?  What is it that he needs to know before he can start to buy $30 per week and to learn along the way?  If someone gives some example, then maybe we might see some circumstances that a guy might not be able to get started, yet I hardly accept that there is some amorphous "basic knowledge" that a person needs to have before he decides for himself whether to get started and how much he is going to start with, whether $100 per week, $10 per week or some other amount.

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a new investor doesn't have to wait until they know everything about bitcoin before getting started. however, i think that besides having discretionary income, understanding selfcustody wallet and how to secure them properly is also essential
if they still find selfcustody too complicated, then they are probably not ready to invest. because btc held on an exchange doesn't fully belong to them. what is the point of investing if you put your money in but can't be sure the asset truly belongs to you?

if we don't even know how to keep our asset safe, how can we expect to make money from them?
protecting your capital should always come before chasing profit.

You think that a person who starts out with $100 per week, $10 per week or maybe $30 per week has to learn self custody before making his first bitcoin purchase?

How about a grandma or a 70 year old? 

Do you think that everyone has to learn self custody in order to be qualified to start buying bitcoin?

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To Achalugo BTC, I would like to start by saying that in my short experience, it will take a long time for an investor to develop the knowledge needed to be responsible, patient and disciplined about investing. This is not possible without some long-term investment experience.

And JayJuanGee as per your question I would say Beginners do not need much knowledge before investing. They can start small by identifying your extra money, deciding where to buy Bitcoin, and determining the amount to buy according to your ability.
After meeting the necessary expenses, a common person can easily calculate whether there is real extra money. And without extra money, I do not think it would be right to invest in Bitcoin.
And it certainly does not take much time to learn where to buy Bitcoin. If I speak for myself, I have known this for a few years before coming to this forum.

I am not going to presume anyone knows where to buy bitcoin, and there is likely local variation.  Some people might need to spend time figuring out from where they are going to buy bitcoin, and let's say that they check through one possible buying source, and then they find some red flags, they might want to continue to check for other possible places to buy bitcoin.  Even though several of us (including yours truly) considers it important to get started buying bitcoin as soon as possible, I doubt that we can put a time frame on how long we believe it is reasonable for any particular person to have had been able to look into from where they would initially start to buy some bitcoin.

An adult should be considered to have this ability about money management . If he doesn't have this kind of common sense, then I don't think he needs to invest in Bitcoin.

Knowing how to do math or to calculate income versus expenses and figuring out how much discretionary funds are left over is not part of common sense.  Not everyone knows math and not everyone is comfortable with math, so if a bitcoin newbie sucks at math, they might have to spend some time figuring out how much income they have and how much expenses they have so that they can determine the extent to which they have discretionary funds that could be used to buy bitcoin.

From my point of view, common sense is not about knowing anything in particular, yet a person who does not know math, they might have common sense to know that they have to learn math in order to be able to figure out the extent to which they have sufficient discretionary funds in order to get started buying bitcoin.

Another thing is that I would consider that folks with common sense would not want to throw away money or to be scammed, so they might have various alerts that they have so that they feel comfortable that they are not throwing away money, especially if they might not be a very rich person.

Anyone who has heard the name Bitcoin and decided to invest in it must have this kind of understanding that it won't take him long to understand it or that he is not so incapable that he will be like a 12-year-old child. And if he doesn't have this kind of brain development, then he is nothing but a madman.

I think that there are a lot of people who hardly know what bitcoin is, even if they had heard the word bitcoin, so I am not going to presume that any beginner has any clue about bitcoin, yet they do not need to know much about bitcoin in order to get started buying bitcoin.  So yeah, they have to use some judgement in regards to what they know and what they do not know. I doubt that our audience here are kids who are younger than 18 year olds, even though at the same time, anyone who can read can get on the internet, and if a person is younger, then they are susceptible of being scammed, yet I am not going to presume that our audience here are a bunch of snot nosed 12-year olds or even snot nosed 15-year olds, and sure part of the dangers with teenagers is they sometimes start to believe that they know way more than they know, so if there are younger people who are trying to figure out how to get involved in bitcoin, they likely need to be careful based on their age so that they are not presuming themselves to know more than what they know, even though teenagers have tendencies to act like that and even to get emotional or to have hormones guiding them into questionable judgement calls.

Huh?  What is the "basic knowledge" that you believe newbies need to learn before getting started?
Do they have discretionary funds?

Do they know from where they are going to buy?
Do they have an ability to make reasonable choices for themselves?  or you want to treat them like a 12 year old merely because they are new to bitcoin?  Do you presume the bitcoin newbie to be 12 years old?
Well they are not necessarily 12 year olds but sometimes they act worse than them blinded by many emotional factors such as fear and greed. I cant generalise all investors in bitcoin to have a 12 year old like mentality but many of them make mistakes a 12 year old would make mainly because they are new and mostly because they are greedy and fearful.

Personally, I am not going to patronize newbies.

in fact newbies need to be responsible for their actions, so they have to make decisions with common sense and not act retarded.

I presume around 97% of normies have common sense, even if they might need some practice in exercising such common sense that they already possess.

So them getting bitcoin’s knowledge is beneficial, it is not a matter of if they need it or not but extra knowledge before investing is always better than less knowledge as more knowledge always helps us in taking well calculated decisions. But acquiring knowledge shouldn’t stop one from starting investing, they should continuously learn while have already started investing to not lose their opportunity in buying bitcoin.

I think that newbies should be able to get started right away from where they are at as long as they have figured out their discretionary funds and then they can adjust their starting out amount, whether that is $100, $10 or some other amount.  They can also learn as they go. They don't have to learn prior to getting started as long as they already know that they have discretionary funds.

You going to treat an adult that you meet in person the same way? as you treat people on the internet and presume all newbies to be like 12 year olds?

you are probably doing yourself a disservice to be trying to take on the role as teacher rather than promoting the idea of self-responsibility.

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Today at 08:02:10 AM
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says that people should learn more about Bitcoin before they invest any money. Many of the new traders look at the profit opportunity and forget about the volatility and length of time that the asset will exist. No matter what approach you take, whether lump sum or DCA. It can only be done on a realistic basis if you invest money that you can afford to set aside for several years. There are ways to make a significant return on your investment if you are a small investor. But generally it's more about the patience. Consistency and knowledge that you have.
Well said, which is why every new investor ought to acquire basic knowledge of investing in Bitcoin, both its pros and the cons of it before deciding on an investment method because without verify  the information they receive, they will keep making mistakes by applying the wrong principles which could ruin their plans, which will help them to remain responsible and disciplined kos that's how small investors can profit from their investment.

Huh?  What is the "basic knowledge" that you believe newbies need to learn before getting started?

Do they have discretionary funds?

Do they know from where they are going to buy?

Do they have an ability to make reasonable choices for themselves?  or you want to treat them like a 12 year old merely because they are new to bitcoin?  Do you presume the bitcoin newbie to be 12 years old?
This is why I say that a lot of people over exaggerate on what basic knowledge is and end up delaying their investment because the think that they are yet to get the basic knowledge required to start buying bitcoin, they are trying to turn the concept of basic knowledge to things s person needs to study carefully before they can invest when the reality of starting bitcoin investment just depends on whether a person has discretionary income or not, we don't need a soothsayer to tell us what we need to do after that.

But there are so many people who make the concept of basic knowledge too complicated, and end up discouraging people from getting going. A new investor doesn't have to be an expert before investing in their first bitcoin share of fractions. The only points they need to know are that they have to invest money that they can afford to not touch in years. That they should invest in a reputable exchange or wallet. And that they should anticipate any fluctuations in price. In addition the best learning may occur in an experiential way. By adopting a disciplined and patient strategy. Small investors can still make substantial long term gains by accumulating significant amounts of Bitcoin over an extended period.Small investors can still make decent returns. Over time by committing themselves to a disciplined and patient investment strategy rather than waiting for every detail to be known about Bitcoin.

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Today at 08:53:19 AM
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But there are so many people who make the concept of basic knowledge too complicated, and end up discouraging people from getting going. A new investor doesn't have to be an expert before investing in their first bitcoin share of fractions. The only points they need to know are that they have to invest money that they can afford to not touch in years. That they should invest in a reputable exchange or wallet. And that they should anticipate any fluctuations in price. In addition the best learning may occur in an experiential way. By adopting a disciplined and patient strategy. Small investors can still make substantial long term gains by accumulating significant amounts of Bitcoin over an extended period.Small investors can still make decent returns. Over time by committing themselves to a disciplined and patient investment strategy rather than waiting for every detail to be known about Bitcoin.

We do not invest in exchanges or wallets, rather we buy our Bitcoins in the exchange and keep our holdings in the wallet safely. But yes, we do not need to learn about wallets to start investing, initially find out our discretionary income and start investing and after starting investing, you can gradually gain knowledge about wallets. Because since you will keep all your holdings in the wallet, it is most important to have some idea and select the right wallet when choosing a wallet. So in the beginning, you can buy through the exchange and keep your holdings in your exchange and gain knowledge while investing.
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Today at 09:59:20 AM
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As long as you keep holding for a long term without sell, as the years goes by the value of Bitcoin will keep increasing so no matter how little you can be able to be accumulating consistently for a long term definitely you will surely make a good profit at the end of your overaccumulation stage.
Bitcoin has been increasing as the year go though it will drop and still increase again this has been the nature of Bitcoin from start it's volatility makes it go up and down but we can't be very sure that we will make good profit even after holding long, we are not guarantee of anything as we are not sure yet if we will be at profit side or lost since the future can't be predicted.

As a volatile asset folks are advise to accumulate Bitcoin with their discretionary income since nothing is guaranteed it's not where you put all your hope and income on because you may get disappointed or you may not also, the idea why investors should invest with their discretionary income is incase things goes right or wrong if things goes right better and good if it goes wrong nothing much was lost just discretionary income.

Yes, the point is, investing in BTC certainly doesn't guarantee significant profits, even if we hold it for the long term, because we don't know what will happen to BTC in the future. However, to date, no one who holds BTC for the long term has been disappointed because BTC always sets new highs. So, long-term investing in BTC has the potential to generate profits, regardless of whether the capital is large or small. However, the point is, investing in BTC should not be your primary source of income.

Yes, using discretionary income is certainly something BTC investors need to do, because it's unimaginable to invest in BTC without discretionary income. So, in essence, I think investing in BTC has the potential to generate good returns, regardless of whether the capital is large or small. The most important thing is that the money used to buy BTC must be money that is appropriate for investing in BTC, such as discretionary income or money you can afford to lose.











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Today at 11:04:36 AM
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I have been thinking lately about how investing in bitcoin is actually a great idea but also it can be really hard to make profit off bitcoin if you're a small Investor
Imagine this:
If bitcoin is at $64k and me as a small investor bought with $1k, for me to make 100% profit bitcoin will have to hit $128k, that is still feasible
But if I'm hoping to make a 200% profit on my investment bitcoin price will have to get to $256k, how achievable is that ? And if it's achievable how long is it going to take

Which brings me back to my question
Can small investors actually make good profit with bitcoin?

Or are there other ways to make money with bitcoin as a small investor rather than just buy and hold?

Out of thinking we get success, stagnation or backwardness. Investment in Bitcoin has been a great deal for long now and a newbie can't allow thinking that will stop them or slow down their accumulation. So far the thinking you are putting up will for sure slow your Bitcoin investment. Making a 100% profit in Bitcoin can't be something to worry about.
Taking a comparative study on investments or businesses, making 100% profit doesn't always happen in a short time ( breaking even) and it's not a thing to worry about. Howbeit a reasonable percentage profit from Bitcoin is already a plus if compared to keeping fiat for that long.

Well talking of how much you actually have to invest, then I want to ask, how much profit or percentage profit do you really want to make from $1000 investment? You see, you can't be carried away with how much you want to make with just $1000 that will stop newbies drive for Bitcoin investment. Take it or leave, Bitcoin investment is not gambling where you use small amount to gain heavily of even 100% gain.


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I think the questions already raised here by JJG explains it all. Off course, that one is a Bitcoin newbie doesn't mean they know nothing or have no human sense and/or reasoning, and thus, they could still reason and know how best to do what is okay and keep there investment safe provided they have the ability to make reasonable decisions.

What's major is the ability to figure out there discretionary. Once this is done, then every other thing as regards starting is secondary. They could begin buying gradually while they personally discover some other things while in the market already. Trying to look at basic knowledge as a criteria to starting in a broader perspective might seem to ambiguous as many may be looking at it from the angle of learning or knowing a whole lot of things before getting started. Whereas, the concept of basic knowledge simply connotes you having been able to figure out your Discretionary and a common sense.

Basic knowledge is not figuring out discretionary funds and common sense.

Basic knowledge is a vague and ambiguous standard that other people try to proclaim to be required for others, and others do not need anything besides discretionary funds and perhaps knowing from where they are going to buy their first bitcoin. They do not need to know anything else, except to the extent that they might impose requirements upon themselves.  That is their choice not something imposed by others, since if a guy has discretionary funds and he knows from where he can buy bitcoin, then he can get started and buy his first bitcoin (satoshis).


But having common sense and discretionary funds is already enough for them to start. But saying basic knowledge is not needed here is actually so unrealistic.

What I think right is they don't need to learn this in much deeper sense before they can buy Bitcoin. But what those people need to understand is they know the basic things about this coin, like what they are buying, how to access their asset and last on how they could able to secure those assets they bought. Learning those matter is practical for those people, since if they are ready with those things then they can start small while they are trying to learn more details about this coin.

Trying to pretend that they don't need knowledge before starting will just expose those newbie to much bigger risk and can give them some bad results like early losses.

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