Crypto Tracking

[hack3rcon]

Hello,
I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Thank you.

[Sticky Bomb]

Hello,
I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Yes.. as long as the funds passed through a centralized platform which you've done KYC, your identity would still be traced back to it. Meanwhile why would the person receiving the message go to legal authorities? Are you planning on scamming or blackmailing the person?

[348Judah]

The first mistake you did is to make use of a centralized exchange for your P2P transaction, and this is why we need to know that our information is with these platforms and they can deliver it to any government agency upon request when it comes to security matters.

Secondly, this is more advisable: abstain from anything that has to do with fraudulence; any form of scam or illicit transaction should be totally avoided because they may trace it to you even from the transaction you made.

[rat03gopoh]

Correct. But it depends on the content of the message. If you're just sending nonsense, even the authorities won't take the time to follow up to the exchange.
Use SimpleX instead. https://simplex.chat

Your title is ambiguous. Is this about crypto tracking or identity tracking?

[Coyster]

Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account.

Law enforcement do not just request user data without a valid reason, and they wouldn't also spend resources chasing after small scam. But if you are asking if such a sequence is possible, then yes! In 2024, due to regulatory pressure, Telegram changed its policy to allow sharing user data to law enforcement if they are approached with valid legal requests.

That said, what message do you intend sharing on Telegram? That information would go a long way in understanding what your worries are exactly. Telegram is also not your best choice for chatting anonymously.

[joniboini]

If you want to avoid exchanges linking your card to your identity, you should've never used them in the first place. We have P2P options here and there. While it's not as convenience as using CEX, at least you can pick your own seller and how you proceed with the deal.

Then again, I'm not sure authorities will demand your details just because you scam $5 from someone as have been said above. Maybe they'll record it and log it in case file. Your reputation will definitely get tainted if you do that though. Especially when you're doing it openly on a forum like this.

[Charles-Tim]

You are asking if your identity can be revealed, just do away with anything that request for your personal details. That is when you can be sure that you can not be linked to it. Especially if it is related to something that the government want to investigate, it is very possible that you can be known. Also know that your IP can be known and be linked to you through Telegram.

[Marykeller]

The authorities will be ready to go through all these lengths to discover your identity if you committed a theft of a huge sum, using Bitcoin as a payment method through a centralized exchange.

So tell us, what crime are we looking at, is it the crime of theft or scam for the authority to go the length of discovering your identity when there are important and urgent things that they can attend to, not to discovering the identity of someone who want to messaged someone anonymously on telegram

[bitmover]

Hello,
I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Thank you.

Companies such as Telegram, the seller of the phone number, CoinEx will only share your information if you have done something illegal and authorities are looking for you.

Companies won't share their customer information just because someone asked.

[Stalker22]

Companies won't share their customer information just because someone asked.

They might.  Okay, not exactly if anyone asks, but if the request comes from a legitimate authority many companies will cooperate without much fuss.  Its none of their business whether you did something illegal or not - thats up to the courts to decide.


@hack3rcon, its probably not the brightest idea to ask for instructions online if you are already planning on doing something illegal.  Just saying.   

[Jaycoinz]

Hello,
I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Yes.. as long as the funds passed through a centralized platform which you've done KYC, your identity would still be traced back to it. Meanwhile, why would the person receiving the message go to legal authorities? Are you planning on scamming or blackmailing the person?

This is definitely a question to ask.

If you have scammed someone or are planning to, then rest assured that it will be easy for them to track you because once the security agencies meet the company and CEX for the information in their database concerning such transactions, they will give it to them. But other than that, I don't think anyone can walk in and ask and they will give it to them, since no security breach is involved or scam case.

The Department of Justice would like to acknowledge Tether for its assistance in effectuating the transfer of these assets.

Source: scam case

Even organized scams like this still get traced so rest assured you will be caught if you pass through any mean of identification on the process of your plans

[Odogwu-Blockchain]

Companies such as Telegram, the seller of the phone number, CoinEx will only share your information if you have done something illegal and authorities are looking for you.

Companies won't share their customer information just because someone asked.

Exactly, why would OP be having this kind of thought and question, I am not trying to accuse him of scamming but is it what he is discussing with his planning to do, while knowing what will happen if he does from the forum?

The question seems like a plan that had been set on ground, whether if he strike, it may backfire, so him trying to know the future is the reason why he comes on here.

 If that's your plan OP, don't do it, it's never worth it.

[jossiel]

It will be a long process I think depending on the complain and court orders but yes, it could end up revealing your identity as the purchaser and owner of what's used for buying bitcoin.

In the first place, using coinex and other similar exchanges is already the wrong way of concealing your identity because it's a centralized exchange.

What made you ask this OP, are you doing something like this that you're worried with?  Having those keywords only, telegram + credit card is already something for me.

[Franctoshi]

Hello,
I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Thank you.

From your story, this already points to something illegal ("identity reveal, tracking, illegal authority”).
Yes, from the moment you used a centralized exchange that you have KYC with and a credit card got involved too, your identity is already exposed, and there's no hidden place for you.

Are you asking because you want to/have run such a transaction or you're trying to track someone? If you are not trying to track someone because they scammed you, then better avoid any illegal activity that will lead to any legal authorities starting to dig you up.

[maydna]

You can use long or short way as you mention but if I got unknown message from unknown person, I will delete, block the number, and not get attract for the offers. Telegram full of scammers and they are ready to scam those who can't be careful and not research for the offers comes to them.

If you research from search engine, you will finds tons of that way so you can choose you want but you must not doing that because that can break the law and causing you in trouble.

[Perfectbaby]

For you to hide your identity you must completely avoid a centralised platform where you passed through you documentation and verification processes. Even, telegram is far away from getting your information because if you make a transaction through centralised exchanges information could be fetched through the exchange, while your telegram could be a bit not possible to track you as you could hide your phone number from people, again there are all possibilities for your accounts details to be quickly deleted or change username where it would be that complicated for them to track you through your username. In all ramifications you must avoid a centralised platform for you to be anonymous in the crypto space.

[Ojima-ojo]

This explanation is a easy to track, cases that involved crypto fraud are tracked using this method, basically this is the highest action that an average scammer will take thinking he can hide under cryptocurrency privacy to get away with fraudulent actions.


If you want to keep your crypto transaction totally off track, you must do with everything decentralized avoid Centralised platforms like exchange or credit cards

[henmark]

I want to message someone anonymously on Telegram without anyone being able to track me. To do this, I opened an account on an exchange like CoinEx. I bought some Bitcoin with a credit card, then I bought a virtual number using Bitcoin and created a Telegram account with it. Now the person receiving the message goes to the legal authorities. The legal authorities ask Telegram to give them the phone number connected to the account. Then they reach the company selling the virtual number through the phone number. The company selling the virtual phone number gives the address from which it received the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and they reach the CoinEx exchange through the bitcoin address. The exchange then gives the identity of the credit card used to purchase the bitcoin to the legal authorities, and ultimately my identity is revealed. Right?

Why the hassle of doing everything through a crypto exchange and Bitcoin when you ultimately have to use your personal credit card for any of the purchases in the process and buying Bitcoin from a centralized exchange? Just simply buy a virtual phone number using your credit card and message the person with that number. If the authorities start looking for you, the centralized exchange or the use of Bitcoin would obviously not save you in this case because you have given your identity to the exchange that you've used to purchase your bitcoins, and they are regulated, which means they have to comply with the authorities and they can give them any information when asked.

People need to understand that Bitcoin is pseudonymous itself, but it doesn't mean that if you use Bitcoin that you've purchased through a centralized exchange, you can stay anonymous. The only people who can stay completely anonymous using Bitcoin are those who purchase their bitcoins through decentralized exchanges, and then use non-custodial wallets to keep them and they don't make any transactions from that wallet to a centralized platform where their identity has been verified. This way, when Bitcoins are tracked, they won't take the tracking authority to a platform where they can get the identity of the person who owns the bitcoins.

[DPHOR]

This explanation is a easy to track, cases that involved crypto fraud are tracked using this method, basically this is the highest action that an average scammer will take thinking he can hide under cryptocurrency privacy to get away with fraudulent actions.


If you want to keep your crypto transaction totally off track, you must do with everything decentralized avoid Centralised platforms like exchange or credit cards

That is right as centralized platform could be the only they could easily have them targeted, that is why majority of people do not like using their credit cards to involve with cryptocurrency trading.
When a trader an investor truly wants to be off track they should be able to focused on decentralized platform to make them remain anonymous or for them to entirely remain veiled. This is also another reason why people do like forum p2p like if you send Bitcoin to someone then the person sends you Eth equivalent to the amount of BTC sent without directly know the person whom you are transacting with majorly.

[KingsDen]

Your title is ambiguous. Is this about crypto tracking or identity tracking?

What I observed. He was obviously talking about identity tracking and not crypto tracking.

Secondly, someone who is doing something legit will not over think privacy in this way as to track everything down to themselves.
Op, if you don't want to be tracked, you have no business completing KYC in CEX.