"Numan467" - another account I suspect of having nefarious intentions

[JollyGood]

I noticed a thread Who Can Access Your Bitcoin If Something Happens to You? in the Bitcoin Discussion board. It was created by the Numan467 account.

The content of the OP seemed more akin to a pretext to post under the guise of asking an innocent question by a curious member rather than that actually being the case. I looked in to the account and found some concerns.

He created the Numan467 account on 30th August 2023, this is the pattern of the first seven posts made by Numan467:

1st post made on 13th November 2023 (Pakistan board)
2nd post made on 13th November 2023 (Pakistan board)
3rd post made on 13th January 13 2024 (Pakistan board)
4th post made on 9th August 2024 (Pakistan board)
5th post made on 9th August 2024 (Gambling board, ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion)
6th post made on 11th August 2024 (Pakistan board)
7th post made on 27th July 27 2026 (Pakistan board)

It has been eleven days since he returned to the forum after a two year hiatus. In these eleven days he made 37 posts whereas in the previous nine months before his absence he made a total of just six posts.

He has now started posting in various boards and even though he seems to be predominantly posting in the Pakistan board as that is where he is expecting merits from, his attention has shifted to WO and that is where he currently received more merits.

This is highly suspicious behaviour.

As always, there could be perfectly good explanations therefore Numan467 has been invited to this thread. It will be interesting to read why a newbie would join a Bitcoin forum to make six post about sports and almost everything else except Bitcoin in the first nine months and then leave for two years, only to return to post in various other boards seeking merits rather than actually contributing in a positive manner.

After the recent controversy that occurred by members associated with the Pakistan board, my instincts tell me this is a farmed account that the puppeteer eventually intends to monetise. A suitable tag has been placed.

The last thread I created similar to this was The "Just Common" account is one of many farmed accounts in October 2025 therefore around 10 months ago (and he stopped posting using that account soon after the thread was created).

I do feel periodically it is important to discuss what account farmers are doing in order to build up their accounts and the steps the community can take to disrupt their efforts. Quite often, receiving merits in local boards and WO are key places for account farmers to seek merits and unfortunately it seems as though this pattern will remain the case for the foreseeable future.

[libert19]

LOL!

[Numan467]

Hi @JollyGood I received your PM. I understand why my gap in activity looks suspicious, but there is a straightforward reason for it.

1. Inactivity & Travel: I work in Dubai and travel frequently between the UAE and Pakistan. Work commitments and routine shifts meant the forum took a backseat after I registered.

2. Shift to Bitcoin Boards & WO: I’ve been involved in Crypto and Bitcoin holding for a long time. Now that my work schedule is manageable, I returned to actively engage in market discussions rather than just casual posts.

3. Not a Farmed Account: I am the sole owner of this account, not part of any alt network or farm. Merits are just a byproduct of engaging in topics I know about.

I hope this clears things up. I'm happy to keep contributing constructively to prove my legitimacy.

LOL!

I have already responded to this exact point previously:

As for the merits, that user was basically raining merits all over the local board recently, and I happened to get few like many others.

If there is any feature on this forum to block someone from sending merits, please let me know and I will gladly block them right away.

Am I supposed to be repeatedly held responsible and treated with suspicion every single time just because an unsolicited user decided to send 3 merits on my posts?

[libert19]

LOL!

I have already responded to this exact point previously:

As for the merits, that user was basically raining merits all over the local board recently, and I happened to get few like many others.

If there is any feature on this forum to block someone from sending merits, please let me know and I will gladly block them right away.

Am I supposed to be repeatedly held responsible and treated with suspicion every single time just because an unsolicited user decided to send 3 merits on my posts?

I am not accusing you, it's just something I found funny in context of the thread.

[yahoo62278]

If there is any feature on this forum to block someone from sending merits, please let me know and I will gladly block them right away.

Am I supposed to be repeatedly held responsible and treated with suspicion every single time just because an unsolicited user decided to send 3 merits on my posts?

A persons merits are theirs to do with as they wish mostly. There are cases where trading them back n forth between alt accounts will likely land you a red tag and selling them will land you a red tag, otherwise you cannot stop someone from sending.

If you repeatedly take breaks and pop back in you might be questioned like you are now. Jolly just looking to slow the bad apples down, but long as you're not engaging in shady activity you got no worries.

[JollyGood]

Well, merits that being sent from a known farmed account to an account that has behaved in a dubious manner with a long absence does not look good. Though the recipient has no control over who sends the merits, it is normal to ask questions when 50% of the total merits received are from a farmed account.

Hi @JollyGood I received your PM. I understand why my gap in activity looks suspicious, but there is a straightforward reason for it.

1. Inactivity & Travel: I work in Dubai and travel frequently between the UAE and Pakistan. Work commitments and routine shifts meant the forum took a backseat after I registered.

2. Shift to Bitcoin Boards & WO: I’ve been involved in Crypto and Bitcoin holding for a long time. Now that my work schedule is manageable, I returned to actively engage in market discussions rather than just casual posts.

3. Not a Farmed Account: I am the sole owner of this account, not part of any alt network or farm. Merits are just a byproduct of engaging in topics I know about.

I hope this clears things up. I'm happy to keep contributing constructively to prove my legitimacy.

Here is what I can see from my perspective. In the post above, there are telltale signs that you are indeed part of a farmed account.

The account was used sparingly after it was created with just a handful of posts in nine months and then you put it to sleep. You woke up recently after a two year hiatus claiming you were busy. The fact the account was created in 2023 is the reason you want to use it, in the hope of enrolling in signature campaigns. That is why you are now posting in order to increase your post count.

I have already responded to this exact point previously:If there is any feature on this forum to block someone from sending merits, please let me know and I will gladly block them right away.

Am I supposed to be repeatedly held responsible and treated with suspicion every single time just because an unsolicited user decided to send 3 merits on my posts?

Congratulations, without a valid explanation your level of written English improves from mediocre to a good standard.

[Numan467]

Congratulations, without a valid explanation your level of written English improves from mediocre to a good standard.

In UAE we mostly talk in English but still this is not native language. I use grammar correction tools to make sure my posts are clear and readable.

As for my account age and signature campaigns I even don't know about how to join the campaign. I am still in learning phase. My goal on Bitcointalk right now is simply to participate in discussions that interest me and keep up with the community.

I understand you are doing your job to keep the forum safe from account farmers. I have given an honest explanation of my background and travel routine.

[JollyGood]

Once again, it has to be noted the level of English has improved from your initial posts. As for the content of your post, that is what I expected from you.

I am not surprised you are trying to insult our intelligence, you are being dishonest because your goal is to build up the Numan467 account in order to monetise it via signature campaigns. If you know how to earn merits in WO then you definitely know how to enroll in signature campaigns.

Anyway, I read the exchange between you and nutildah therefore I will give you some advice and you should take note as it will save you a lot of time.

You may have noticed nutildah has given you a neutral tag referring to your AI posts. On that basis alone you will not be able to enroll in campaigns. As this defeats the object of your modus operandi, you are wasting your time with your Numan467 account.

You can spend the next several months trying to reach 100 merits in the hope of joining a campaign as a Full Member but as soon as that happens you will probably receive a signature ban. When that happens you will think back to this post and recall that your greed took over your common sense as I advised you to stop wasting your time.

Forget this Numan467 account and focus on your other accounts without trying to get them noticed otherwise they will also receive tags.

In UAE we mostly talk in English but still this is not native language. I use grammar correction tools to make sure my posts are clear and readable.

As for my account age and signature campaigns I even don't know about how to join the campaign. I am still in learning phase. My goal on Bitcointalk right now is simply to participate in discussions that interest me and keep up with the community.

I understand you are doing your job to keep the forum safe from account farmers. I have given an honest explanation of my background and travel routine.

[Numan467]

Forget this Numan467 account and focus on your other accounts without trying to get them noticed otherwise they will also receive tags.

I do not have any other accounts on this forum, Numan467 is my only account. I have stated my facts truthfully, and I have nothing further to add or prove. Time and my future contributions on this forum will speak for themselves. Thank you.


And regarding nutildah, I have explained everything here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg67020010#msg67020010

[JollyGood]

Even with your protestations that have improved with the level of written English, you have continued to receive tags. At this moment in time, you are have received four neutral tags. Three of them are citing your usage of AI whereas one (mine) is stating concerns about your posting habits.

Whatever it was that wanted to contribute to the forum as relative newbie with a dubious posting history, you can continue. I noticed your most recent post was back in the WO thread (and that is where you belong as you nothing at all to contribute to this forum).

Forget this Numan467 account and focus on your other accounts without trying to get them noticed otherwise they will also receive tags.

I do not have any other accounts on this forum, Numan467 is my only account. I have stated my facts truthfully, and I have nothing further to add or prove. Time and my future contributions on this forum will speak for themselves. Thank you.


And regarding nutildah, I have explained everything here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg67020010#msg67020010

[Numan467]

At this moment in time, you are have received four neutral tags. Three of them are citing your usage of AI whereas one (mine) is stating concerns about your posting habits... I noticed your most recent post was back in the WO thread (and that is where you belong as you nothing at all to contribute to this forum).

You are extraordinarily stubborn and completely incapable of admitting when you are wrong. But that is expected from someone who operates with your kind of mindset.

Your allegations remain completely unsupported by facts, whether you accept that reality or not.

Other users simply blindly follow what you and your circle do to exercise their own DT power. As I have stated repeatedly, I do not care about these tags. I have already explained my position transparently. If people want to abuse their authority just they can go right ahead.

Where I post, whether in the Wall Observer or anywhere else on this forum is absolutely none of your concern. You have already abused your power as much as you could, so shut the fuck up.

[JollyGood]

With no hope of ever entering and winning a competition or being enrolled in a signature campaign as a result of the tags, how much longer will you continue to post using the Numan467 account?

It has received a total of four neutral tags and one negative tag. You will never monetise the Numan467 account therefore I am expecting a complete abandoning soon. For a relative newbie with a long gap, you seem to know a lot about DT.

Also, your English (including profanities) has improved significantly  

Hopefully your other accounts will be tagged as soon as they are discovered.

You are extraordinarily stubborn and completely incapable of admitting when you are wrong. But that is expected from someone who operates with your kind of mindset.

Your allegations remain completely unsupported by facts, whether you accept that reality or not.

Other users simply blindly follow what you and your circle do to exercise their own DT power. As I have stated repeatedly, I do not care about these tags. I have already explained my position transparently. If people want to abuse their authority just they can go right ahead.

Where I post, whether in the Wall Observer or anywhere else on this forum is absolutely none of your concern. You have already abused your power as much as you could, so shut the fuck up.

[Numan467]

With no hope of ever entering and winning a competition or being enrolled in a signature campaign as a result of the tags, how much longer will you continue to post using the Numan467 account?

It has received a total of four neutral tags and one negative tag. You will never monetise the Numan467 account therefore I am expecting a complete abandoning soon. For a relative newbie with a long gap, you seem to know a lot about DT.

Also, your English (including profanities) has improved significantly 

Hopefully your other accounts will be tagged as soon as they are discovered.

Your reply perfectly exposes your worldview: you assume every member here is just a commodity hunting for signature campaign payouts. That might be how you operate, but it isn't my motivation.

I am not going anywhere. I don't post here for campaign earnings, so you can keep your tags. Your expectation that I will "abandon" this account will go unfulfilled, regardless of how many neutral or negative tags you and your peers throw at it.

You mention my knowledge of DT, but it doesn't take years of posting to see the rot. Your colleague, nutildah, has made it crystal clear that "Trust" is just a tool for ego-driven censorship. His blatant misuse of power to silence anyone who challenges his flawed narrative is exactly what is poisoning this forum, and your support of that toxic behavior is just as pathetic.

It’s a classic "heads I win, tails you lose" setup. When I post in broken English, you claim I'm farming; when I take the time to communicate clearly, you claim I'm an alt. Your attempts to frame my improvement as "suspicious" are just desperate excuses to keep this witch hunt going.

Keep hunting for "imaginary alts" and waiting for me to quit. Every day this account remains active is a direct refutation of your little narrative.

You have only zero value for me. Keep it up to fulfil your posting quota and misuse of your power.

[joker_josue]

You mention my knowledge of DT, but it doesn't take years of posting to see the rot. Your colleague, nutildah, has made it crystal clear that "Trust" is just a tool for ego-driven censorship. His blatant misuse of power to silence anyone who challenges his flawed narrative is exactly what is poisoning this forum, and your support of that toxic behavior is just as pathetic.

Years? I wouldn't say that.
But I'm impressed with how quickly you learned.

Less than a month ago, after being away from the forum for a long time, said was trying to understand how the forum works:

Slam

My bohat Dino ky baad Yahan par active huwa hun. Abhi to me cheezen seekhny Ki Koshish kar raha hun bohat pehly me ne Yahan posts Ki Thi to mujhy kuch Samaj Nahin. But ab me active rahun gaa or Koshish Karun Ga ky Yahan sy knowledge hasil kar sakun.

Wesy koi Bata sakta ye merits kesy milen ge Yahan? Kaya is my liye koi special skill chahye? Yaa esa kuch Jo mujy seekhna chahye.?

In turn, in less than a month, you managed to learn enough about DT to draw conclusions about potential flaws and alleged abuses of power.

It's actually an impressive learning curve. It starts with "how do I get merit?", and ends with diagnosing abuse of power within the DT in less than a month. Truly impressive.

[nutildah]

If you want me to remove the negative tag, prove to me you weren't lying about your Sapling claim after editing my post (the one referenced in the feedback). You should be able to recreate what you did. That's the whole purpose of using these free use tools: so that anyone can double-check their results.

[Numan467]

In turn, in less than a month, you managed to learn enough about DT to draw conclusions about potential flaws and alleged abuses of power.

It's actually an impressive learning curve. It starts with "how do I get merit?", and ends with diagnosing abuse of power within the DT in less than a month. Truly impressive.

You don't need years on this forum or a degree in Bitcointalk history to recognize obvious ganging up and power abuse—you just need basic common sense.

Digging through my old local posts because you lack any solid arguments only proves my point. Save the cheap sarcasm. Experiencing ego-driven censorship firsthand doesn't require a steep learning curve, and no amount of post-digging will cover up how nutildah and his cheerleaders are misusing the Trust system.

If you want me to remove the negative tag, prove to me you weren't lying about your Sapling claim after editing my post (the one referenced in the feedback). You should be able to recreate what you did. That's the whole purpose of using these free use tools: so that anyone can double-check their results.

Who do you think you are—the president of the forum? I am not your servant, and I have no obligation to jump through hoops just to satisfy your ego.

Free AI detection tools are non-deterministic, they update models, change algorithms, and give different outputs over time. Expecting the exact same score hours/days later on a live scanner is just a convenient distraction. The truth is, after getting called out and humiliated on your baseless AI claim when I gave you a proper response, your fragile ego couldn't handle it. Now you are desperately clinging to this micro-detail just to save face.

Keep the tag. I don't care. Everyone reading this thread can see right through your tactics, this negative tag was slapped on out of pure spite and a hurt ego, not actual evidence.