Do institutional buying and selling really change anything

[ndutndut]

No, institution buying and selling do not changes anything even though they are mostly large holders.
Their immediate actions may have a positive or negative effect on the market at a particular point in time, but on the longer run It would not because Bitcoin has gone past that level where it price can be easily manipulated by a whale or a group of investors.

The sale that micro strategy did has little effects on the value of Bitcoin, but I am confident that Bitcoin will recover in no distance time, it's only but a matter of time before that happens.

The impact when institutions or whales buy or sell Bitcoin we can't deny, definitely has an effect, but only in the short term. We can see what’s been happening lately, and if we look at history it’s the same, but after that Bitcoin bounces back. What I mean is, the market influence from institutions and whales buying or selling does exist, and sometimes it even serves as a sign for us to apply a good strategy to make big profits in the future.

If we look at it from now, for example corrections in the market sometimes can’t be avoided, and there are several possible triggers that could happen. For instance, MicroStrategy sells a large amount of BTC, the Hormuz Strait drama happens again a major exchange suddenly shuts down or several exchanges close all at once and even when Trump gives a speech threatening some kind of tension. Right now, we don’t really know for sure which one will be the trigger, but what I want to say is that what I mentioned above can trigger short term price drops. On top of that, sometimes the market also moves without warning and shifts suddenly, so anything can happen in the market.

[EarnOnVictor]

Another news alart that micro Strategy are selling some large amounts of their bitcoin holdings, this can make mainstream headlines news, but does it really change anything in terms of bitcoin market price reactions both in the long term or short term basis.

If you think deeply, you'll know that this matters a lot. Aside from Saylor/Strategy, the activities of all institutions and big players now matter in their little or big ways. They have big liquidity share in Bitcoin, so their activities will always affect the demand and supply depending on the specific action.

Specifically, being a role model, Saylor/Strategy and personality similar would have effects beyond that, which is psychological effects. This is crazy because a tiny decision could cause psychological effect in the market that could either be significantly positive or negative.

[OgNasty]

Institutional buying and selling do change things.  Maybe they make their deals outside of public exchanges so it is less noticeable, but make no mistake that when someone sells hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin, it definitely has an effect on the market.  Especially nowadays, there are a lot of investment vehicles effecting the market in ways that most people probably don't understand or realize.  Big money moves markets though, for sure.

[Odusko]

Another news alart that micro Strategy are selling some large amounts of their bitcoin holdings, this can make mainstream headlines news, but does it really change anything in terms of bitcoin market price reactions both in the long term or short term basis.

If you think deeply, you'll know that this matters a lot. Aside from Saylor/Strategy, the activities of all institutions and big players now matter in their little or big ways. They have big liquidity share in Bitcoin, so their activities will always affect the demand and supply depending on the specific action.

Specifically, being a role model, Saylor/Strategy and personality similar would have effects beyond that, which is psychological effects. This is crazy because a tiny decision could cause psychological effect in the market that could either be significantly positive or negative.

I believe that institutional behaviour shapes the general market outlook in the end, so for that reason micro Strategy or blockrocks activities as per buying and selling of their bitcoin starch affects market both in short term and long term basis, although sometimes bitcoin could have a larger liquidity that supports it market from someone volatilities resulting from institutional action, this is what makes bitcoin to be far different from other coins in the market.

[savetheFORUM]

From time to time, events occur that have an impact on Bitcoin. There was a time when even Elon Musk’s tweets were affecting Bitcoin’s price. But I think Bitcoin is getting used to this and developing a sort of immunity to it all. When institutional investors entered the scene, their every move used to send Bitcoin’s price swinging up and down, but right now, almost no one cares what they do. They can never affect the price in the long run.

Dogecoin. That thing went up like crazy all because of him; it had absolutely no benefit, nothing good, and it was just a coin that was created for shits and giggles, nothing more. And just because he tweeted about it, back when he didn't even own Twitter, he made it go up for no reason at all.

And in exchange, we ended up with a curse that is called memecoins; people are investing in memecoins like crazy even right now, but less now, more back then. They were investing in things that were not even memecoins; they were scams.

One day Elon would tweet something that has nothing to do with crypto at all, like about space or something, and a fake token would go up five thousand per cent because the name was in the tweet. People were going mad. So yeah, there are moments in the world where crypto market price is impacted by people- not often; that did not happen every day, to everyone. We do not care about everyone like that, but it has also happened as well, so it is not really impossible to see stuff like that.

[coinrifft]

From time to time, events occur that have an impact on Bitcoin. There was a time when even Elon Musk’s tweets were affecting Bitcoin’s price. But I think Bitcoin is getting used to this and developing a sort of immunity to it all. When institutional investors entered the scene, their every move used to send Bitcoin’s price swinging up and down, but right now, almost no one cares what they do. They can never affect the price in the long run.

We have learn so much from that Elon Musk hype before, then suddenly he made a U-turn on Bitcoin saying that it affected the environment or something to that effect. So moving forward we might have learn the harsh truth about this so called personalities that they are here just to ride the hype.

So we mature as a whole and never be affected by it. Even Saylor himself, the supposedly poster boy of Bitcoin doesn't have that much influence on us right now. Even if he is selling, the market didn't move an inch.

[STT]

People are not understanding that Strategy but also business in general operates on leverage which means they will naturally buy and sell in line with the larger credit cycle.
   I did mention this mixed blessing when Bitcoin became bigger, you introduce this weak fiat leveraged money into Bitcoin and its oil on water, it never exactly mixes properly as its so different.

   The big operators like this will always sell when they have to, strong dollar will weaken their effects on Bitcoin and the money recedes like a tide going out as pretty much that possibility is inevitable.  Does it make a difference, sure it does but its not all easy money flowing one way its also big selling at times.

   I'd much rather see and I only really trust the organic growth in Bitcoin, the money that comes from utility that BTC provides to people especially those suffering failed or failing national currencies.  If Bitcoin is helping people to do business to live their lives then its mission successful and the price is secondary but I take that as the true trend and reliable strength to bank.

[Franctoshi]

Another news alart that micro Strategy are selling some large amounts of their bitcoin holdings, this can make mainstream headlines news, but does it really change anything in terms of bitcoin market price reactions both in the long term or short term basis.
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Yes, but it depends on the amount of liquidity moving in and out of the market, why? Because money (demand and supply) is the core driver of the price of an asset like Bitcoin.

Does it change anything based on long term?, No. because Bitcoin supply keeps tightening.

[free-bit.co.in]

From time to time, events occur that have an impact on Bitcoin. There was a time when even Elon Musk’s tweets were affecting Bitcoin’s price. But I think Bitcoin is getting used to this and developing a sort of immunity to it all. When institutional investors entered the scene, their every move used to send Bitcoin’s price swinging up and down, but right now, almost no one cares what they do. They can never affect the price in the long run.

I think we need to separate the impact of news, rumors, or an influential person from institution actually selling a large amount of Bitcoin. These are two completely different thing.

No matter how mature Bitcoin become, its price is still driven by supply and demand, liquidity, and investor sentiment. If a large amount of Bitcoin is dumped onto the market and creates heavy selling pressure, price will be affected, and vice versa.

Over time, Bitcoin may become less sensitive to news and rumors, but that doesn't mean it is immune to supply and demand imbalances or changes in market liquidity.

[Nathrixxx]

Both institutional investors and individual investors will always remain in cryptocurrency and bitcoin market, that we have many strong hands buying bitcoin and investing does not mean we should conclude on seeing it as being influenced by this giant holders, bitcoin is basically operating under volatility that depends on its market demands and supply as people are both involved in buying and selling which determines the market price, whales are not going to be the major determinants to the market value regardless of how they are influence could be when they buy or sell.

[Mate2237]

I think that it does especially for institutions like strategy which could be discribed as big whales in the market. Usually when ever institutions like this dumps huge amount of Bitcoin this way, the market will generally reacts to it an this will go a long way in affecting the price of Bitcoin. This is the reason why most people always react to news like this from a negative side because the implications of what strategy is doing is that alot of investors will panic because, this is not the first time that strategy will be dumping huge amount of Bitcoin like this. It will create an atmosphere where panic selling will come into play.


But if you ask me those who actually Panic and react negatively to the panic, due to change in price that may likely occur due to the sell off of Institutional holders. Maybe considered weak and can't endure the Dip for a long time, which to me is not a good thing to do.no matter what is happening in the market it's expected that we should remain focused and maintain our holding which is key to long term profitablity.

[Silikiem]

Both institutional investors and individual investors will always remain in cryptocurrency and bitcoin market, that we have many strong hands buying bitcoin and investing does not mean we should conclude on seeing it as being influenced by this giant holders, bitcoin is basically operating under volatility that depends on its market demands and supply as people are both involved in buying and selling which determines the market price, whales are not going to be the major determinants to the market value regardless of how they are influence could be when they buy or sell.

I think we cannot despise the fact that not just the giant holders but even retail investors really do contribute to some of the factors responsible for the overall bitcoin price movement. But somehow the influence of this giant accumulators can’t be compared to retail investors due to the heavy capital influxes of this institutional and giant holders. It is only going to be unfair to other factors to concede that without this big institutional players people won’t be In bitcoin because there are so many factors which influences the upward and downward movements of bitcoin, most of this factors are relatively unknown to us which shows that Bitcoin will continue to be valued and appreciative.

[Odusko]

I think that it does especially for institutions like strategy which could be discribed as big whales in the market. Usually when ever institutions like this dumps huge amount of Bitcoin this way, the market will generally reacts to it an this will go a long way in affecting the price of Bitcoin. This is the reason why most people always react to news like this from a negative side because the implications of what strategy is doing is that alot of investors will panic because, this is not the first time that strategy will be dumping huge amount of Bitcoin like this. It will create an atmosphere where panic selling will come into play.

What I have discover with institutions buying and selling Bitcoin is that, it's a strategy that they use to get market reactions that can favor them in their next decision, whales have control over the mindset of other weak investors for example whenever a big company like micro strategy announce the sell of a large amount of Bitcoin, what they target is to see price dump and buying back at more cheaper price.

But if you ask me those who actually Panic and react negatively to the panic, due to change in price that may likely occur due to the sell off of Institutional holders. Maybe considered weak and can't endure the Dip for a long time, which to me is not a good thing to do.no matter what is happening in the market it's expected that we should remain focused and maintain our holding which is key to long term profitablity.

Exactly those with established knowledge and understanding of the market already know how external factors like whales manipulate the market, so for that you don't get moved by their short term actions.

[Nwada001]

Another news alart that micro Strategy are selling some large amounts of their bitcoin holdings, this can make mainstream headlines news, but does it really change anything in terms of bitcoin market price reactions both in the long term or short term

What affects the market more most of the time is that news or selling and not the actual say done by these big fishes. When an announcement that they want to sell some of their holdings, even if it’s worth millions, is made, those who are afraid of what they will cause in the market rush in to sell, and their panic selling is what I see actually reacting in the market.
Now there is less effect on the market with such news compared to before when single tweets about buying and selling of millions worth of bitcoin can trigger a reaction.

[alastantiger]

No, institution buying and selling do not changes anything even though they are mostly large holders.
Their immediate actions may have a positive or negative effect on the market at a particular point in time, but on the longer run It would not because Bitcoin has gone past that level where it price can be easily manipulated by a whale or a group of investors.

Institutional buying and selling do change the way the market behaves and the evidence is all around the market. As investors see the market moving in a more stable way because of the high volume of capital in the market then traders can now analyze the market better as they now have more faith in the market. Although the institutional investors now have more power over the market but they also know that if they cause much panic and many retail investors begin to sell off their position then it will affect the value of their portfolio hence  in a way it keeps the market in check to avoid too much manipulation from the institutional investors so as to protect their assets.

[YOSHIE]

Do institutional buying and selling really change anything

When we try to speculate on the Bitcoin buying and selling process and also look at the Market structure and Liquidity, the presence of large institutions in the crypto market can shake the Bitcoin market.

My speculation is that the presence of large public companies to invest in Bitcoin can certainly change Bitcoin from a speculative retail asset to an instrument asset, this is clearly a real form of change.

However, even though we know that there are large institutions in the market, why the development of Bitcoin in the market has not shown anything, the answer has not yet arrived.