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Today at 07:32:19 AM
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If you buy Bitcoin in the spot market and hold it, the price drop is not immediately considered a realized loss, unless you sell it.  However just holding it does not guarantee that you will make a profit in the future, because if you buy in wrong time, you can't make any profit. Long term holding or DCA can reduce the pressure of short term price volatility and market timing by buying regularly.

But If you do future trading with leverage, then the situation becomes much riskier. Even a small price movement in Bitcoin can create a large loss or liquidation in a leveraged position, so I would say that long term spot holding and leveraged futures trading are not the same type of investment.

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Today at 08:25:05 AM
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If you buy Bitcoin in the spot market and hold it, the price drop is not immediately considered a realized loss, unless you sell it.  However just holding it does not guarantee that you will make a profit in the future, because if you buy in wrong time, you can't make any profit. Long term holding or DCA can reduce the pressure of short term price volatility and market timing by buying regularly.

But If you do future trading with leverage, then the situation becomes much riskier. Even a small price movement in Bitcoin can create a large loss or liquidation in a leveraged position, so I would say that long term spot holding and leveraged futures trading are not the same type of investment.
That's right. If an investor buys Bitcoin and the market unexpectedly crash, it is still considered as paper loss as long as the investor did not sell his holdings. The value may be decreased, but the investor still holds the same amount of Bitcoin he initially purchased. If the time that the market has finally able to recover, those paper loss will be changed to potential profit.


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Today at 09:56:02 AM
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idk what kind of investment case someone loses in bitcoin except trading it in the future. When the goal is investment then I dare to guarantee that in bitcoin it is 100% profit and 0% loss as long as you keep it safely hold it firmly, consistently and patiently.
Whether you like it or not investing in bitcoin is the most sensible investment, just use the halving format to make it easier to understand. But back again that investing in bitcoin loss it's when you buy at the highest price and sell at the lowest price.

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Today at 10:04:46 AM
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I mean, it was depressing for sure if you lose a huge amount of money in cryptocurrency investment, but if you're going to think about it, you are already aware that you might lose money in crypto, you lose because it was your mistake you bet too high, you put a huge lot of money into something that you don't really understand or dont have knowledge, because I realize a lot of thing through my years of investment, It never actually hurt me if I lose money into crypto to the point where I might not recover because from the very start I already know and realize what im going in to. Bitcoin is a risk investment stuff, even though it was a safer investment than other high risk high reward token in the market, the volatility was high compared to other assets. So losing money was already a thing, so why in the first place you are going to put money that you can't afford to lose right.\

In my opinion, this is just all about discipline and not giving up. I mean, for sure you need to be disciplined in order to keep in going, but having the knowledge and knowing how things work, you could easily figure out that you might lose a lot here, why invest in memes? Why invest in other crypto projects without even thinking and saying that you lose a lot of money in crypto? I think this is more like a gambling problem for most investors, are were just getting hype, but people who earn a lot on Bitcoin think that it was easy. It wouldn't even get to the emotions if you already know it.

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Today at 10:12:05 AM
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Unless those that are trading on future market, you can't lose money from bitcoin investment or even trading in the spot market, f you see that the price you bought your bitcoin have become higher than bitcoin current price, and you see your total USD amount to be less than initial, what you need to do is to keep holding your bitcoin until the price will recover and put you even in profits again.


Bitcoin is best held for long time investment not quick profit investment, like leverage risk investment, that one is gambling with the market volatilities,
For sure, it means for traders, because there’s no way we lose bitcoin in a normal investment unless theres some negligence on our end or we made a poor decisions along the way. But if it’s  pertaining to investment only, that means they lost using trading. I agree with you that btc is the best choice for long term crypto investment because of its stability and long term potential..As long as you have a good financial investment strategy, proper risk management, and a planned exit point, you can lessen any unnecessary losses and prevent in making any wrong decisions especially during market volatility.

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Today at 10:28:32 AM
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This is where we traders miss it, losses come with a story to tell, a teaching that should help in making you & me become a better trader.. but instead we chose to cry over it , feel sad about it & all the negative energy that comes with a loss, wrong choice!! The countermeasure here should be developing a positive mind, attitude and all the good stuff... and this entirely removes fear and you trade confidently, and ultimately take better trades after you learn from your mistakes  Grin.

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Today at 10:44:46 AM
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Losses may hurt but don't let it weigh you down.

Losing money in Bitcoin can destroy your emotions entirely.

 Bringing fear, depression, regret and even frustration.
I don't think you can lose all your money on Bitcoin if truly you an investor that is buying and holding for long. The only way you can lose everything is if you are trading it in the derivative or futures market or better still you invested in shit coin. I agree with you that giving up after some discouragement is not the best, because those that made it far in Bitcoin investment or in trading are failures that tried more times without giving up, but even at that, you should know that you cannot just lose everything if you hold your Bitcoin, unless you try to trade it, and it goes against you.

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This has really kills so many people mindset towards investing in Bitcoin, because after putting onces hope to get something and it ends up not working after, it really changes one mentality towards giving a try again.
People that gives up easily are mostly those with high expectations of getting rich very quick through Bitcoin, and when what they are seeing is not going in line with what they expected, they will fastly call it a quit because it's a waste of time to such person.





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Today at 11:45:38 AM
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But for long-term investors, one Bitcoin=1BTC. There is no need to be worried because the price dropped since the price will increase in the future if you keep hodling. I experienced fear during my early days in Bitcoin, but over the years I have learned that there is no need to panic when the price drops. Just keep hodling.
Bitcoin is for the long-term, you only loose when you panic sell below your entry point within the short-term. Traders are the only ones who encounter such losses. For a real investor the discipline needed is to maintain his consistency in accumulating more bitcoin with his discretionary income and not to sell in a short while.

Even if the prices reduce, the quantity of bitcoin in the wallet remains the same and with time the prices would recover and surpass your entry point. Most people lack the patience to wait long enough before cashing out and that is the reason they encounter losses repeatedly. Most people made earlier mistakes trading bitcoin instead of investing and holding, but the wise ones learned from their mistakes while those who still think they can outsmart it are still loosing.

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Today at 12:55:16 PM
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Like a lot of people have already reiterated, loses are for bitcoin trades or those that use leverages but for investors you will always make profit, I think the only time I was weighed down by emotions for an action I tagged as a lose was some years back when I thought I was a bitcoin investor, after being on hodl for some time I panic sold immediately after the halving, although I made some profit but the emotions I felt was disappointment because I could have still held on and made more profit. That experience taught me how to control my emotions and seek more knowledge.

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Today at 01:08:39 PM
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But for long-term investors, one Bitcoin=1BTC. There is no need to be worried because the price dropped since the price will increase in the future if you keep hodling. I experienced fear during my early days in Bitcoin, but over the years I have learned that there is no need to panic when the price drops. Just keep hodling.
That early stage fear is almost inevitable for every newbie, which is more reason why it is very important for them to start with what they can afford and maybe with time as their knowledge increases to some extent on how Bitcoin works, they can invest freely and hodl without fear of anything.
Bitcoin is just like a school, the more you are part of it, the more knowledgeable you get to adapt to the realities surrounding Bitcoin investment.
Emotion makes people think that they are losing it all when their Bitcoin portfolio nosedive, which might even push folks into making making premature decisions, dips is not a bad thing after all one can still top up at a lesser price and keep hodling the existing one which is the right method to go with.

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Today at 01:40:45 PM
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idk what kind of investment case someone loses in bitcoin except trading it in the future.
People can still lose their Bitcoin to investment and not just in trading futures from carelessness and then some other little mistakes that could be avoided. For instance people can lose their Bitcoin by losing access to their wallets and never being able to recover it. Some people can lose their Bitcoin by trusting someone else too much with too much details about their wallets that they have their investments moved away and stole from them, People can also lose their Bitcoin to scammers online and all these can all constitute a negative emotion that can build up making you to disappointed to the extent that you're willing to quit trying to invest again in Bitcoin. This is the exact emotions that the OP is saying you should not allow to weigh you down.

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Today at 01:48:04 PM
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Losing BTC is not something to be taken lightly because it's not just the money you lose; it's sacrifice, it's a series of things the person has gone through to acquire BTC. Many emotions must have been experienced, and the fact that you lose BTC must feel very bad.

What you should know is that things happen for a reason. In the long run, BTC is still far superior to fiat money or other stores of value like gold. BTC will always yield profits; you shouldn't obsess over past mistakes because it won't recover the lost capital.

If you lost BTC, I can only say that you must overcome it and start again. Every time you can, accumulate BTC, make purchases gradually and with great discipline. There is always a solution for everything.
 

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Today at 01:58:43 PM
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Losing BTC is not something to be taken lightly because it's not just the money you lose; it's sacrifice, it's a series of things the person has gone through to acquire BTC. Many emotions must have been experienced, and the fact that you lose BTC must feel very bad.

If you lost BTC, I can only say that you must overcome it and start again. Every time you can, accumulate BTC, make purchases gradually and with great discipline. There is always a solution for everything. 
If you lost your bitcoins, it could be from several mistake types: trading stupidly and greedily especially with margin and futures together with high leverages. Don't use stop loss order or stop limit order for your trading positions in either spot, margin, futures markets.

It could be from using bitcoin as investment capital into altcoin projects, meme tokens, basically they are shitcoins and shit tokens which only take money from you.
Another reason could be related security.

People who lost their bitcoins must learn from their losses, and improve their practice from investment, security to avoid trading.

Some bad practice from people who lost their bitcoins is changing themselves and becoming scammers just to get more bitcoins and cover their losses. Examples are VIP members, donators and people like Roger Ver.

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Today at 02:12:07 PM
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In as much as I want to agree with you I still think you're saying too bluntly. You make it sound like a perfect investment but in reality there's no perfect investment and every investment has it's loss regardless of how well you plan it. There is every possibility that you can invest at a low price and Bitcoin stays low or even lower more than expected and you might end up selling at loss. It's true those who are patient with it gets the bigger reward but each person has their separate limit and at some point we will all end up selling our Bitcoin either we are in profit or not. In short, no investment can guarantee profit not even Bitcoin it self, we just have to do It right and have a long term mindset to increase the chances of success.

Every investment has its own risks and its also correct to say that Bitcoin also has risk associated with it. We can not eliminate the risks but by taking appropriate measures we can reduce the risks associated with Bitcoin like if are investing for 5 years or more then probability of getting profit increases. We also have previous price data of Bitcoin that we can study to see how to maximise our profits. There is no way we can predict how long price will remain down before bulls will take over but if you have spare cash that you can forget for long duration then its best to invest in Bitcoin because price of bitcoin is deemed to go up with time. 
 

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Today at 02:17:56 PM
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Losing BTC is not something to be taken lightly because it's not just the money you lose; it's sacrifice, it's a series of things the person has gone through to acquire BTC. Many emotions must have been experienced, and the fact that you lose BTC must feel very bad.

What you should know is that things happen for a reason. In the long run, BTC is still far superior to fiat money or other stores of value like gold. BTC will always yield profits; you shouldn't obsess over past mistakes because it won't recover the lost capital.

If you lost BTC, I can only say that you must overcome it and start again. Every time you can, accumulate BTC, make purchases gradually and with great discipline. There is always a solution for everything.
 

When investment becomes gambling then loss is inevitable. Many come to bitcoin investment with the hope of getting quick profit, greed has become the norm for many investors such that they don’t invest within their financial means, some will go as far as borrowing money and taking loans to invest in bitcoin without knowing that profit isn’t guaranteed, they rely solely on the performance of their bitcoin investment to be able to repay the loans. I don’t feel pity for people like that because that’s the only way they can learn to know that bitcoin shouldn’t be seen as a get rich quick scheme but as a long term investment where patience, consistency is required to achieve some significant level of success.

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Loses occurs everyday, although is painful but don't let it weigh you down, Quickly learn from previous mistakes and apply self discipline.
If you're referring to investment, I think your assumptions and advice are inaccurate. As I understand it, your assumptions are clearly more suitable for those who enjoy trading, not investing. There are no daily losses if someone invests long-term. Bitcoin investors, essentially, hold their Bitcoins for a long time. So, if you're referring to daily losses, yes, that clearly points to trading activity. If you're referring to Bitcoin traders, your advice is quite sound. Emotions are the main enemy when trading.

So, being able to control your emotions when trading is clearly a crucial asset. Furthermore, trading is inherently risky, especially if you're trading outside of the spot market, which is even more so. Therefore, you should be careful if you're a trader. Because basically, even though Bitcoin is the asset you trade, it still carries a big risk.

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Today at 02:29:09 PM
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I don’t feel pity for people like that because that’s the only way they can learn to know that bitcoin shouldn’t be seen as a get rich quick scheme but as a long term investment where patience, consistency is required to achieve some significant level of success.
I still feel sorry for them, after all they lost a lot of money from investing. But my pity isn’t because of the loss itself, it’s because they started without enough knowledge and preparation. 
I’m curious about how people like that get interested in buying and investing in Bitcoin. If they started on their own, they should have been more careful. If it was based on someone else’s advice, the person giving advice should have provided some knowledge.

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In conclusion
Loses occurs everyday, although is painful but don't let it weigh you down, Quickly learn from previous mistakes and apply self discipline.
People lose money everyday in the crypto space, but not all looses were as a result of poor security practices. And there are some looses that would happen to people they would lose interest in that project completely. There was this thread I came across on this Bitcoin discussion board, it was about a man who lost his Bitcoin investment due to a compromise involving his coldcard wallet. I really feel pity for them, because all their years of sacrifice buying bitcoin gone and gone forever.

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Controlling emotions in which investments are lost and how we will respond to ourselves and our family becomes difficult. It is like a child's exam and his future will decide it, so in trading it is also difficult to decide whether we will be able to earn profit or loss for our future. Emotions are the only thing that is difficult for everyone to control, so losing money in trading can take time for everyone to control the loss there. Although it is easy for experts because they have earned a lot from trading, so even if they get any loss in any way, they do not feel much pain, but it is difficult for new people who come to the market. In addition, we need patience for a long time. Therefore, my advice is that people who cannot control their emotions and feelings and become depressed should not trade.

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