How many soccer leagues are there and why do we need so many threads?

[Nwada001]

If we merge everything into one thread, it will be difficult to find useful analysis again.

Not only is it difficult to analyze, but it will also be very hard for one to follow up on conversions, especially when different sports are to be discussed in just one thread; it could have been a different case on the subject that is being discussed concerning seasonal threads, where almost every season has its own thread on the forum. The forum is large, and not even everyone here is interested in most of the leagues out there. I’m not sure we have up to 30 active leagues being discussed here in the forum.

[Frankolala]

It's because you don't watch sports football precisely OP, that made you feel all the different leagues threads should be merged as one. They're totally different discussion and not the same even though, it still about football. Just as we have it on DSTV, different channels shows different leagues because they ain't the same. The discussion wouldn't flow easily.

[ColdLava40]

Based on what OP said, out of the 21 threads about soccer leagues that e counted, only about 13 was of a different leagues meanjng the rest threads are repeating original original threads. I agree with you that two different leagues can not be merged in the same thread since it can cause confusion but some members can stop opening a new thread about a league when their is already an existing topic about that league.

All of these 21 threads are not different leagues, but more then 12 are. Kinda insane.

Another thing I can see is that some brand has their own separate thread opened for each seasons. I'm not sure it's supposed to be like that.

The forum already has some of these thread dedicated to many different seasons it doesn't need merging, if those brands wish to sponsor the seasons, they can contact the op of the thread to edit the title. Those could reduce the many different thread we have too.

If we go with merging those threads, it would be confusing for many. The leagues may be same but discussion different.

[stompix]

Seems a bit crazy to me that we have a separate thread for every single soccer league

So you think it's ok to have a baseball topic in which we discuss both the MLB and the Nippon Professional Baseball League the same time? 

Perhaps a middle ground, not just one thread for each league but putting several leagues in the same thread, for example all below X level, which are hardly talked about (in the hypothetical case that so many threads were created in the first place, which seems unlikely to me).

It makes no sense to put Bundesliga in Serie A....how will people even talk when they discuss two different subjects
It makes no sense to talk about the Bundesliga and the second division in the same topic either.
Also, just how many topics are about the second leagues? I don't think there are more than 3-4 that are bumped at least two or three times a week.

Imagine having the same topic for Ethereum and Solana  

That said, we are not going to discuss Champions League football in the Spanish Laliga thread, that wouldn't make any sense.

You're not going to like the result of searching how many times CL has been mentioned in the Liga thread  

[Davidvictorson]

Just looking at the 1st page of this section and counted 21 threads dealing with soccer alone. That's just what I counted on the 1st page, imagine if i went counting a few more pages. All of these 21 threads are not different leagues, but more then 12 are. Kinda insane.

1. How many soccer leagues are there? (did a google search and found 191 professional leagues)
2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?

Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

I feel the same way too.
The soccer threads are redundant and can be cut down.
A suggestion would be that once it is possible to settle on the number of soccer threads in this boards, they should be pinned so that another user would easily see them before creating a similar thread.

[iv4n]

Just looking at the 1st page of this section and counted 21 threads dealing with soccer alone. That's just what I counted on the 1st page, imagine if i went counting a few more pages. All of these 21 threads are not different leagues, but more then 12 are. Kinda insane.

1. How many soccer leagues are there? (did a google search and found 191 professional leagues)
2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?
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Well, I noticed this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;threads;u=3750578;sa=showPosts
One thread after another, it looks like covering too many leagues... Is it even possible? 

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Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

I feel like the "real thing" is missing... a thread with real predictions/proof. There's a lot of talking, but somehow I don't see any action. A thread where players would share their predictions & analyses at least a few hours before the game stats. And with some minimum stake, of course...

[Sunshine1525]

Your opinion is not bad because too many threads about a particular sports is kinda insane but you should understand that it's the most popular sports that's why it's given more attention than others and also the sports that majority of gamblers bet on so they'll have more to discuss on.

I support merging some sports discussion like the UEFA leagues. The Conference, Europa and Champions league can all be merged into one thread cause they're all under UEFA, but i can't imagine other boards for instance the Premier league and Laliga merged together it would look awkward.

[red4slash]

It will be quite difficult because with the different conditions of the competition then the situation cannot be put together which makes the thread of football will remain big.

For the domestic Big Leagues alone we have the 5 most vocal ones here (EPL, La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A and Ligue 1) if everything is put together in 1 thread this will make the discussion more complicated because of the different competitions that occur. For some competitions but in one domestic league we take for example the EPL, Carabao or FA Cup may be used as one thread but for different domestic leagues with many competitions in one season it will obviously not be easy so even if it narrows with some big leagues discussed but the thread about football will still be a lot because the competition is indeed very much.

[Accardo]

I feel the same way too.
The soccer threads are redundant and can be cut down.
A suggestion would be that once it is possible to settle on the number of soccer threads in this boards, they should be pinned so that another user would easily see them before creating a similar thread.

If every major football league is pinned, the entire page 1 would be filled with pinned threads, gambling threads outside football will always end up at page 2. The suggestion of a pinned post has to go with instructing members on what kind of league is allowed here. Visually speaking unpopular leagues end up isolated, top leagues gets the most conversation and stays in the first page, no essence pinning all the high interest football leagues.

[Cleanshit]

If we merge everything into one thread, it will be difficult to find useful analysis again.

Not only is it difficult to analyze, but it will also be very hard for one to follow up on conversions, especially when different sports are to be discussed in just one thread; it could have been a different case on the subject that is being discussed concerning seasonal threads, where almost every season has its own thread on the forum.

Well said, it an important discussion to have a major different leagues threads for each leagues so that it should be easier to follow up discussion and analysis without having to mix up different competitions. Having separate thread is probably not the main issue but having to create duplicate thread for same league is. Avoiding to create duplicate threads will make more of sense.

[Agbamoni]

Some members want their country's league to be discussed on the forum even when they are not popular. There are some Leagues that have very low contributions because they are not well known. Merging these threads would make it complex since there will be difficult to follow-up discussions. My suggestion is that every country should be limited to one thread. The UEFA Champions League and other European Champions should also have their threads.

That's far from the problem. Those members can create one thread to discuss the league, and moreover, the league won't surface on page 1 because the discussions won't be much over there. From what I noticed, the challenge is having almost 4 threads concerning one league. For example, as of today, two threads have been created for the EFL Championship league. One of those threads is self-moderated. So probably for each league thread we are having a self-moderated thread and a normal thread, while some threads are dedicated to a casino.

[Taricoins]

I pretty much agree with your point that having so many soccer thread on first page makes this board look cluttered. However, it is not necessarily true that there must be 191 threads if there are 191 professional leagues. This is because not all leagues have the same level of interest on Bitcointalk. In my opinion, better solution would be to have dedicated threads for major/popular leagues such as EPL, La Liga, UCL. And keep low-interest leagues and minor competition in a broader International/Other Football Discussion thread. Duplicate threads for same league or multiple threads for same season should definitely be avoided.

If we merge everything into one thread, it will be difficult to find useful analysis again.

Facts, I agree with what you said but I think combining that much leagues into one will create an extra anomous thread especially when some high interest leagues are still among, I think the best we can do is collapse those two threads for 1 league like the one of Premier league discussion and Premier League predictions, then the top 4 leagues can stand alone with the UCL, and that's my opinion. Merging this other leagues with the rest might create those ultra large threads.

[terrific]

I see that there's a lot and there are some that's even sponsored.
I think if it's about specific leagues then they should be fine.
I'm not surprised since soccer is very popular compared to other sports that we also have discussions in the forum.
There are local and the recognized international leagues so that's really a lot to look at.
Putting all of it in one thread might be more difficult for each discussion.

[Jatiluhung]

Obviously, everyone has their own leagues they follow. After all, not every league will appeal to them, even though we’re all soccer fans. But there are only a few leagues that sometimes catch our attention besides our own local league. And I think if all the leagues were combined into a single thread, it would be a disaster and lead to a pretty chaotic discussion. Because we know just how active the posts are in each league. Personally, I often check several threads, especially for leagues where I plan to bet on an upcoming match. Sometimes I read other people’s posts just to find additional information or to see other people’s perspectives before I place a bet. If everything were put into a single thread for all leagues, specific information about a particular club in a certain league would get buried pretty easily. And that would be a bit inconvenient, in my personal opinion.

[Coyster]

A suggestion would be that once it is possible to settle on the number of soccer threads in this boards, they should be pinned so that another user would easily see them before creating a similar thread.

Don't complain when the first two or three pages of this board would all be pinned threads, imagine the sight for a second.

Putting all of it in one thread might be more difficult for each discussion.

Yes, that cannot work and it would make things far worse than people think it already is. Imagine a single page of a thread with discussions about: City v Chelsea, Barcelona v Sevilla, Ac Milan v Juventus, and so on. Talk about absolute chaos.

[BIT-BENDER]

Obviously we can't have all soccer league thread that would be outrageous and yes there are some soccer league thread that actually lack any interesting engagement because the league is not watched in depthm
There are also top professional leagues that has multiple threads.
I think expect for competition, contest or pool there is no need to have more than one league thread.
Also we can have some less watched league compressed into one thread, like the lesser leagues that aren't the top 5 league will be in one thread example Portuguese, Dutch, Turkey and a good but not too famous league all in one thread.

[Rashlyowl]

Just looking at the 1st page of this section and counted 21 threads dealing with soccer alone. That's just what I counted on the 1st page, imagine if i went counting a few more pages. All of these 21 threads are not different leagues, but more then 12 are. Kinda insane.

1. How many soccer leagues are there? (did a google search and found 191 professional leagues)
2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?

Seems a bit crazy to me that we have a separate thread for every single soccer league but I am not 1 that watches the sport so I am curious mostly about the ability to combine some of these threads into 1? 191 leagues means there could be at least 191 threads if someone created 1 for each league, then add on possible gambling threads about these leagues, and duplicates as people just don't pay attention to if there is already a thread on a subject.

Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

Each league generates different discussion content due to varying dynamics or events, I do not feel they should be combined (even though the capability to do so exists). In my opinion, as long as the content of the thread & the ensuing discussion remains relevant to gambling, it shouldn't be an issue. Actually, I was planning to create a dedicated thread for the league from our country. Just to give you an idea bros, if the football league threads were combined, it would create confusion in the discussions.

[AmaGold70]

There are so many leagues out there, and honestly if we want to create thread for every league, it might look very unpleasant. There are leagues that are well known while some leagues are not well known, and not every league are even listed on those well known gambling platforms, so I would suggest those well known leagues should be discussed instead bringing the whole leagues here to be discussed. There are leagues that many gamblers rarely gamble on, so gamblers don't really have clear knowledge about those leagues, which might make discussion in those leagues more cumbersome for gamblers.
While discussing on this leagues your level of discussion will depend on how much you understand those leagues, any league you don't properly understand, your input will be very slow, or possibly you might not even be willing to discuss in those threads.

[kawetsriyanto]

1. How many soccer leagues are there? (did a google search and found 191 professional leagues)

Yep, there are 191 professional leagues at least.

2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?

How to combine them? They are different competitions, there is no way to combine them.
It will be even more messy if one thread covers some leagues. The best way is letting them into separated thread, they have their own thread.
Sure, it will be crazy if we have more threads of professional leagues. I just can't imagine to see 191 threads of professional leagues.  
Maybe there is a rule to allow the top 10 or top 20 professional leagues only. Or to allow the 10-20 most popular leagues only around the world.

[Pearl_20]

Obviously we can't have all soccer league thread that would be outrageous and yes there are some soccer league thread that actually lack any interesting engagement because the league is not watched in depthm

Those leagues that people do not watch, they still bet on those leagues and watch the match updates on livescores so discussions about them is still relevant even if it doesn't generate much traffic.

I think expect for competition, contest or pool there is no need to have more than one league thread.
Also we can have some less watched league compressed into one thread, like the lesser leagues that aren't the top 5 league will be in one thread example Portuguese, Dutch, Turkey and a good but not too famous league all in one thread.

Different gambling sites do host contests and pool, it cannot be possible to have one thread for all.

I agree about compressing those low leagues with the major leagues but in that case we will be having threads that can reach 1000 pages before the end of a season due to many posts from users who follow discussions from those leagues.