How many soccer leagues are there and why do we need so many threads?

[letteredhub]

I know you are suggesting for the 191 professional leagues in the world to be merge together into one thread so that there will be one thread for soccer leagues discussion, which is a good thing but merging all professional leagues in one thread will make it difficult to navigate the thread

I don't think all the professional leagues in soccer will all be merged, let's just talk about the reality and what is possible here, there is another thing that you discover members spamming the forum or the gambling section, another thing is to have each discussion league on a separate thread for proper information and updates, just the same way we cannot have every gambling platform announcement thread on a single thread, while in case of any abuse use of privileges, such can be reported to the moderator.

The solution is not having a duplicate thread for an already existing professional league thread that's with discussions ongoing, no matter the title of the thread, so long as it has any relativity with any league thread then it shouldn't be allowed. Merging all the different leagues thread in one place can be disruptive with discussions and mess up things which I think could be boring too.

[nelson4lov]

I'm not sure we have 15 independent league threads. Maybe this we keep independent threads for top 5 European leagues then make a thread by grouping 2-3 leagues together in a single thread. It reduces the mess on the board main page but each of those combined leagues thread will easily become mega leagues. I personally follow top 5 Europe leagues and 3-5 smaller European leagues like Eredivisie, Belgium pro league, some Ligue 1 and Portuguese main league. Having separate threads for each of those leagues has been good for separation of concerns.

[KTChampions]

You caught me   I can't watch all the games and had to sacrifice something in favor of the Catanzaro - Südtirol clash. The names of the football clubs seemed fictitious to me, especially the second one, as it doesn't sound Italian, but Wikipedia reassured me and confirmed my instincts: this club should play in the Bundesliga.
It's so good that we have so much football that doesn't even need to be invented (this is the last barrier that separates our elite intellectual betting from slots or fantasy football)!  

At least with Tyrol, you at least know where to point it on the map, when I look in the Conference League, for some teams I don't even know where to start, forget Lithuania, Latvia, Slovenia Slovakia confusion some people fall into, that's not my problem, I am genuinely confused when I don't know what kind of name that is or what does it stands for, RFS is playing against TNS or FCSB what the hall are those...
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The Conference League is a tournament that is completely unsuitable for betting or watching, so I never check it.
  I wonder if you know the full name of the FCSB? It's SC Fotbal Club FCSB SA   -> SC FC FCSB SA
I had to find out about this because I think I saw them last year as Europa League qualifiers (if I'm not mistaken), but in my local news, they were listed under the old name Steaua (Star in English). I remembered that brand very well because Steaua often crossed paths with clubs from my country in European competitions in the 1990s. So i had to google why, depending on the source, they are called either FCSB or Steaua (there were long court cases over the brand).
One of the biggest brand downgrades imaginable: Steua/Star -> Abracadabra

[TedMosby]

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Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

I feel the same, but we can't combine discussions of all leagues into one thread about football. It would be really, really broad and even messier inside. Like, imagine having a thread about Ethereum L2s in a single thread when there are many L2 projects. Or a single thread about Bitcoin, where people share news, trade setups and price predictions, ask about their problems related to wallets or transactions, etc. I don't know if this analogy fits to describe the situation, but this is the first thing that came to my mind. It would also cause many people to share the same pool, which could lead to more spam attempts, since people might think no one will read their posts because they will quickly get buried.

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2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?
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There's a way, but I doubt the admin will consider this. Maybe we could have child boards for sports betting discussions. We could have 3-5 popular sports as child boards. So the hierarchy would be something like this.
Bitcoin Forum > Economy > Marketplace > Gambling > Gambling Discussion > Sports Child Boards A/B/C

[swogerino]

I'm not sure we have 15 independent league threads. Maybe this we keep independent threads for top 5 European leagues then make a thread by grouping 2-3 leagues together in a single thread. It reduces the mess on the board main page but each of those combined leagues thread will easily become mega leagues. I personally follow top 5 Europe leagues and 3-5 smaller European leagues like Eredivisie, Belgium pro league, some Ligue 1 and Portuguese main league. Having separate threads for each of those leagues has been good for separation of concerns.

It doesn't bother me because each league is unique in its own way. For betting then we need a lot of discussion here also because the more ideas the better the chances we can win. I know we have AI to help us nowadays but still I always check the threads here as maybe I find a bet I like and if I see someone thinking the same as me I immediately bet on that event. I also understand the confusion if having so many threads but people using the forum from a lot of time I am sure have no problems finding what they want here.

[Nothingtodo]

1. How many soccer leagues are there? (did a google search and found 191 professional leagues)
2. Is there no way to combine some threads so this section isn't so messy?

Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

There are many football playing countries in the world and most of the countries have their own separate threads which is why there are so many threads on this forum about football. However, if we have separate threads on a country basis, it will be possible to reduce the number of threads on soccer.
Now we are asked to make gambling posts mandatory on this forum which is why football is discussed a lot on the gambling board and these megathreads are extremely large. If gambling posts were not mandatory in paid signature campaigns, then perhaps these megathreads would not have been created in such large numbers.

[Taskford]

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Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

I completely get the feeling, and of course, it would be a ideal to combine as many leagues as possible so we can optimize the size of the front page of the gambling sections of the forum. But there is a problem, there are leagues which are simply too different culturally and geographically, for example, it would not make much sense to mix African Football with European football, since half of the thread which have people talking off-topics things in the eyes of the other half of the thread.

It would be good if we could have a single thread for football, depending on which continent the leagues takes place.

Share same sentiments to and I guess the perfect example people should look at is the dedicated thread created for NBA discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220979.0

OP edits the title of the thread to match the current season. I think with that, they can easily track the history. If they create same thread as what sample shown.

But I guess those people regularly posting on those threads are the one could give more better insights if the suggestion provided make sense. So well let's see if they comment in this thread and share their opinion towards the topic raised by @yahoo72278.

[mak013]

Share same sentiments to and I guess the perfect example people should look at is the dedicated thread created for NBA discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220979.0

OP edits the title of the thread to match the current season. I think with that, they can easily track the history. If they create same thread as what sample shown.

But I guess those people regularly posting on those threads are the one could give more better insights if the suggestion provided make sense. So well let's see if they comment in this thread and share their opinion towards the topic raised by @yahoo72278.

The problem is that the NBA is just one competition, and there are at least five big football championships, any of which equals the NBA. Even if these threads are the same as in your example, there will be at least five threads.
The best way, in my opinion, is to create a football child board, if possible. If it cannot be done for any reason, then five threads for the top five championships and one common thread for all other competitions, as in your example.

[AprilioMP]

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Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

It’s no exaggeration to say that the existing, active threads are discussion and prediction threads for the world’s top leagues. Each thread covers and discusses matches in that league, and I think it would be better if the discussions didn’t stray into topics that shouldn’t be discussed there—or, more accurately, if those discussions took place in other threads.
For example, don’t discuss player transfers in a thread dedicated to a specific league. This can lead to excessive discussion and should be avoided.
My suggestion is that soccer discussion threads should be limited to a single season and locked once the league season is over to prevent the number of posts from reaching tens of thousands.

[red4slash]

I'm not sure we have 15 independent league threads. Maybe this we keep independent threads for top 5 European leagues then make a thread by grouping 2-3 leagues together in a single thread. It reduces the mess on the board main page but each of those combined leagues thread will easily become mega leagues. I personally follow top 5 Europe leagues and 3-5 smaller European leagues like Eredivisie, Belgium pro league, some Ligue 1 and Portuguese main league. Having separate threads for each of those leagues has been good for separation of concerns.

5 major Leagues in Europe as well as 3 additional leagues in the Champions League, Europa League and Conference League this will not be lost because in almost every season this league will continue to heat up, do not deny for domestic competition in other leagues may also be the same as the Eredivisie or SPL and MLS but this interest is slightly smaller than the Major leagues in Europe although in recent seasons the SPL is in a positive trend in terms of popularity because Cristiano is a magnet that can not be separated from football.

So here we might be able to make some competition in their respective leagues such as for La Liga where CdR is always a side competition, Bundesliga with its DfB and several other leagues then maybe for it to be in one thread in their respective leagues. This can narrow down the discussion of football although it may not help much but it can still be addressed a little more neatly.
The threads of some minor leagues like some that were posted recently are also not very useful to me because the enthusiasts of those leagues are few so something like this rather than being a debate is better removed.

[lovesmayfamilis]

By combining all the topics, we will see new topics from people who are not happy that everything will be discussed in one thread, and one way or another, you will see those who will be happy to start a discussion in the new open topic. After all, everything is working fine now, and there are many other frequently recurring topics that should be eliminated. But also, if you take into account that people rarely read topics that are not interesting to them, you can expect even more spam, as everyone will respond selectively, creating confusion about what the conversation is actually about.

[rdluffy]

My opinion is that the most organized approach would be one thread per season per league
Obviously, there isn’t an audience for every league, as you mentioned, there are 191 leagues, but there isn’t an audience for all 191 of them

If everything were concentrated in a single thread, it would become extremely crwoded and disorganized, with dozens and dozens of pages

I still think that having a separate thread for each league’s season would be better than one thread covering all seasons with hundreds of pages, but each user who creates a thread can do it however they prefer, it’s the users themselves who will decide whether a thread deserves to stay active

One important fact: soccer is extremely popular, especially the European leagues
I live in Brazil, and practically everyone I know who bets regularly does so on soccer
And that’s reflected in the number of threads here, even though I’m speaking from a local perspective

[Orpichukwu]

I don't think all the professional leagues in soccer will all be merged, let's just talk about the reality and what is possible here, there is another thing that you discover members spamming the forum or the gambling section, another thing is to have each discussion league on a separate thread for proper information and updates, just the same way we cannot have every gambling platform announcement thread on a single thread, while in case of any abuse use of privileges, such can be reported to the moderator.

You have given a good example; it’s really impossible to manage all leagues in one thread. I don’t know how such conversations will be going. The gambling board just needs to have some clearer rules, which even league threads might not belong to the gambling board again since they're just direct sports and don’t have anything to do with gambling.

[Chinesebaby]

 

By combining all the topics, we will see new topics from people who are not happy that everything will be discussed in one thread, and one way or another, you will see those who will be happy to start a discussion in the new open topic. After all, everything is working fine now, and there are many other frequently recurring topics that should be eliminated.

Yes, I totally agree with the last statement you just made about eliminating similar threads should be the best solution to be made at this moment, rather than combining football threads of different leagues and totally different culture and geographical locations, which will deliberately not create room for any good discussions at all, because imagine someone makes a post about a recent happening about a Spanish League, and instead of you seeing a follow up comment reacting to it, the next 10 to 20 comments you saw were talking about a totally different random leagues all together. As this will make the football thread looks unorganized and unprofessional to encourage anybody wanting to read through those discussions. As for me, the only best solution I think will be better for this is for the gambling community to plead on Theymos to create a dedicated child's board specifically for "Football Discussion" either under the gambling board. Because currently now we have just only 3 child's board, namely Games & rounds, investor base games and Gambling discussion

[gracreavix]

I'm not sure we have 15 independent league threads. Maybe this we keep independent threads for top 5 European leagues then make a thread by grouping 2-3 leagues together in a single thread. It reduces the mess on the board main page but each of those combined leagues thread will easily become mega leagues. I personally follow top 5 Europe leagues and 3-5 smaller European leagues like Eredivisie, Belgium pro league, some Ligue 1 and Portuguese main league. Having separate threads for each of those leagues has been good for separation of concerns.

If we separate the threads it might look   simple and easy to follow. But the downside is that it will look noisy on the board. But also combining them will reduce the noise and may likely bury smaller leagues discussion. So if I were to really do justice. I would keep thread that has a lot of discussion separate and combine lesser discussion threads together in one place. That way, you know what's the hot topic and lesser hot topic.

[yahoo62278]

I think everything that can be said has been said, some things multiple times lol, and it's time to lock the thread. You guys helped give me more information about the different leagues and some good arguments as to why we couldn't/shouldn't merge it all to 1 thread. I still feel like there could be less threads created, just not sure how.

To combine as a whole in one thread is difficult but it would be better if we had at least 1 do not need as many threads for one same discussion (same league) as threads in 5 domestic competitions, and 3 threads for Combined Competitions (Champions League, Europa League and Conference league).
But sometimes there is always a new thread even though the old thread still exists as it exists today where there are 2 threads for EPL that are currently active even though they both discuss almost the same thing.

I don't think this would be a great idea. Having multiple threads of same league doesn't look right but I think the main reason multiple thread is created is to separate different seasons and to prevent mega threads (not always the case). Also combining all European competitions won't be nice IMO, they are separate competition and are big enough to have separate threads. EPL and Serie A having two active threads is what I don't understand.

My point is to merge the same 2 threads into one thread like for EPL which currently there are still 2 threads Premier League Prediction Thread 2025/2026 and ⚽ Premier League 2026/2027 Discussion Thread ⚽ which is pretty much the same discussion and this could serve as a good marge by locking one of them up.

We cannot combine the threads of competition because surely the discussion will be strange where several competitions for big domestic leagues are made in one thread it will not be possible to do but when the competition is in 1 shade like the EPL which has several competitions like the FA Cup and Carabao maybe it can still be done.

So that in this case even though we cannot make a joint as a whole but for some overlapping threads it can be minimized.

I think a new thread each year is fine if they lock the previous years thread, but the previous year doesn't get locked.

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Anyone else feel like soccer threads are just a bit overboard?

I completely get the feeling, and of course, it would be a ideal to combine as many leagues as possible so we can optimize the size of the front page of the gambling sections of the forum. But there is a problem, there are leagues which are simply too different culturally and geographically, for example, it would not make much sense to mix African Football with European football, since half of the thread which have people talking off-topics things in the eyes of the other half of the thread.

It would be good if we could have a single thread for football, depending on which continent the leagues takes place.

Share same sentiments to and I guess the perfect example people should look at is the dedicated thread created for NBA discussion https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220979.0

OP edits the title of the thread to match the current season. I think with that, they can easily track the history. If they create same thread as what sample shown.

But I guess those people regularly posting on those threads are the one could give more better insights if the suggestion provided make sense. So well let's see if they comment in this thread and share their opinion towards the topic raised by @yahoo72278.

I also like this. Keeping the same thread but changing the title to fit the season/year like the nba thread. Anything to trim down the overload would help.

Anyways, thanks for trying to have a good discussion on  the topic without arguing with me or others. I'll lock this and hope some of you learned something as I know I did.

[yahoo62278]

Just got on and started browsing the gambling discussion section and come across this:


Austrian Bundesliga 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Danish Superliga 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Swiss Super League 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Jupiler Pro League 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Generally I don't have an issue with someone creating threads but 4 threads within minutes of none other then soccer discussion, which i found kinda funny given this topic, just hope the guy stays active. Now let's see the other 150 threads.

[BitBakerr1]

Just got on and started browsing the gambling discussion section and come across this:


Austrian Bundesliga 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Danish Superliga 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Swiss Super League 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Jupiler Pro League 2026/2027 Discussion Thread

Generally I don't have an issue with someone creating threads but 4 threads within minutes of none other then soccer discussion, which i found kinda funny given this topic, just hope the guy stays active. Now let's see the other 150 threads.

This league are not popular leagues, and that is why there are no much discussion going on on those thread, one would have suggested that they should be locked but since it’s a country league it will look like someone is disrespecting there football league.

The fact that it was created by one person is funny and surprising, is the OP really a fan of those leagues, I’m sure he may not actually be watching those leagues, he just wanted to create them.
We still have more leagues that have been created but there’s few posts on those thread because a lot of people don’t watch those leagues, but one still can’t say they should lock the thread since we still have few people that post there.

However i will suggest to mods, if a league discussion thread is not active for few months they should lock it. I’m very sure this new league discussion threads won’t be active after now.

[Die_empty]

Just got on and started browsing the gambling discussion section and come across this:

Don't worry, it will soon go to page 5 in less than one week because there will be no discussion. The OP will keep talking to their self until they get tired and give up. They created all of threads on the 10th of August and after 15 days only two people have responded in all of them.

[Cryptmuster]

I’m not sure about having one single topic for all Soccer Leagues. I think that would be a mistake because it would turn into a real mishmash of matches from different leagues, and it would be incredibly difficult to find a specific niche for discussing a particular match. But I agree that there should be fewer topics, at least.

I’ve noticed that there are two Premier League topics in Gambling Discussion. Honestly, I don’t really know what the difference between them is. And quite recently, another Premier League topic appeared, with something like "transfers and discussion" in the title. But I assume that people will end up discussing exactly the same things there as in the other two topics (especially since we have a separate topic about transfers).