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Today at 02:46:18 AM
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I am creating this thread to get some answers from the officials and expect opinions from the community.
I knew about this appeal thread: [Appeal] Unban request for account “SportBet.one”.

But a few days ago, I noticed an account SportbetOne in the gambling board, creating new threads and engaging in the conversation. Since their main account was banned, they should not create a new account to participate in the forum except for the ban appeal thread. So, I asked them if they are an official representative.

If I may ask, are you the official representative of Sportbet.one?
If so, you are not allowed to post with multiple accounts in any section except for your ban appeal thread.
I'm not an official rep or employee, just a community ambassador, so I have nothing to do with any official company accounts or ban appeals.

My question is: Is it allowed to create different accounts with brand names and participate in different boards while the brand account is banned?
If so, a brand may create multiple accounts and ask their staff to operate these accounts. Each of them will claim that they are the community ambassadors.

Another problem would be if the mixers start doing it by creating accounts.

I think it is important and should be clarified by the officials.

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Today at 03:00:22 AM
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My question is: Is it allowed to create different accounts with brand names and participate in different boards while the brand account is banned?
If so, a brand may create multiple accounts and ask their staff to operate these accounts. Each of them will claim that they are the community ambassadors.
It's allowed if the account is not from the company.
It is not allowed if the account is a company ambassador.
If it is only an account from community, it's surely allowed.
But how to know and identify that account is a community member or a company ambassador or company representative, it's really challenging.

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Another problem would be if the mixers start doing it by creating accounts.
Mixers are different because they are banned with advertisements in this forum. No announcement threads, no signature campaigns, no sponsored contests, and either mixer representative, brand ambassador, just forum member are all not allowed to promote any mixers here.

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Today at 03:31:02 AM
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Here is my previous answer:
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My question is: Is it allowed to create different accounts with brand names and participate in different boards while the brand account is banned?
If so, a brand may create multiple accounts and ask their staff to operate these accounts. Each of them will claim that they are the community ambassadors.


If the accounts are genuinely controlled by different individuals, it is permitted; however, it is difficult to idenitfy whether a company has actually sent multiple representatives to this forum. Consequently, other accounts will not be banned until there is concrete evidence.

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Another problem would be if the mixers start doing it by creating accounts.
All advertisements related to mixers will be prohibited, so creating unlimited accounts is pointless for this type of service.

Examples of companies that have been doing this for years include Stake and (iirc)Freebitco. If one of these accounts gets banned, it doesn't automatically mean Stake gets boycotted on this forum. The SportbetOne account will only be considered an attempt to circumvent a ban if it is personally proven that the user also controls the Sportbet.one account.

However, the SportbetOne warrants monitoring to see if he is attempting to impersonate official reps. So far, he hasn't engaged in the conversation on the sportbetone ann thread.

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Today at 07:22:07 AM
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I would want to see the rules applied differently in cases like this. I'm of the opinion that a brand should be allowed to create another account freely if one gets banned due to a personal action from the person behind the account, like if they went to threads in other boards and plagiarized. The ban in this case should be applied to the person behind that account and not the company they were representing.

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Today at 08:49:36 AM
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I would want to see the rules applied differently in cases like this. I'm of the opinion that a brand should be allowed to create another account freely if one gets banned due to a personal action from the person behind the account, like if they went to threads in other boards and plagiarized. The ban in this case should be applied to the person behind that account and not the company they were representing.
The forum doesn't know "the person" behind that account. I'd say the company should take full responsibility for their employees: the lack of training is their problem. Even their new account keeps breaking this forum rule:
32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.
It looks like they hired someone for cheap promotions.

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Today at 10:07:27 AM
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The forum doesn't know "the person" behind that account. I'd say the company should take full responsibility for their employees: the lack of training is their problem. Even their new account keeps breaking this forum rule:
In a case of repeated rule breaking a firmer decision can be made against them to prevent a reoccurrence.

In general I think there should be an exception for brands. They're mostly just here to promote their brand and not rank up or earn from the forum, meaning they're less likely to be a nuisance. Mods can use their discretion in different situations. The brands which are acting malicious from their interactions off and on the forum should be handed a permanent ban.

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Today at 10:19:05 AM
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In general I think there should be an exception for brands. They're mostly just here to promote their brand and not rank up or earn from the forum, meaning they're less likely to be a nuisance.
They're literally only here to increase their profit Wink

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Today at 06:10:11 PM
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They're literally only here to increase their profit Wink
What I mean by not be a nuisance is they'll not typically do what accounts engage in to rank up.
Plagiarism and spam results from members trying to cheat the system to get merits and enter a signature campaign or make posts easier while in one. A casino chases profits by trying to onboard new players and they usually do that through running signature or review campaigns and contests. This is different from spam we get from regular users.

Spam from brands will show in them runing campaigns with less care for the quality of the content used to promote them.

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