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August 25, 2026, 07:17:18 PM
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"There is no easy way to get rich quick with Bitcoin" is a phrase that speculators may not be familiar with or may not want to believe. There are often people on social media who see Bitcoin as nothing more than a way to get rich, and even think that Bitcoin is only for the rich. Eventually, they get into Bitcoin, rush into it, and end up losing money. You can probably guess what happens next, blaming Bitcoin.

Another problem with these people is that they take tempting advice instead of taking the right advice. I myself have warned a few people, but my advice was useless to them. They have lost a lot of money by trading, gambling, and short-term investing with Bitcoin. I have even seen people who promise to double or triple their capital in 10-15 days!

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August 25, 2026, 07:52:34 PM
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What's your opinion?
Why learn something helpful and learn it the wrong way?

Who do we blame for it, those passing the wrong information for short term profit, or those receiving the context without verifying?

The most important part of holding is selling at a good price, don't sell below what you bought, and when you sell, it should be at a reasonable price. Little profit is not enough, Bitcoin is capable of giving decent profits, why settle for the bare minimum when you can hodl for a better reward.

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August 25, 2026, 08:57:43 PM
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What's your opinion?
Why learn something helpful and learn it the wrong way?

Who do we blame for it, those passing the wrong information for short term profit, or those receiving the context without verifying?

The most important part of holding is selling at a good price, don't sell below what you bought, and when you sell, it should be at a reasonable price. Little profit is not enough, Bitcoin is capable of giving decent profits, why settle for the bare minimum when you can hodl for a better reward.
Those receiving the context without verifying are the ones to be blamed, for blindly accepting what they didn't verified. This is while they don't last afterwards, information are everywhere and as a person it is your responsibility to do more research and verify before taking action, holding for long term requires being patient and not everyone can have this patient that's where the problem is,  and on hearing about short term profit, they become super excited and fall a victim of chasing short term profit which doesn't just happen as expected, no wonder some end up selling at lost that's below what they bought because of impatient.

 
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August 25, 2026, 11:05:55 PM
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"There is no easy way to get rich quick with Bitcoin" is a phrase that speculators may not be familiar with or may not want to believe. There are often people on social media who see Bitcoin as nothing more than a way to get rich, and even think that Bitcoin is only for the rich. Eventually, they get into Bitcoin, rush into it, and end up losing money. You can probably guess what happens next, blaming Bitcoin.

Another problem with these people is that they take tempting advice instead of taking the right advice. I myself have warned a few people, but my advice was useless to them. They have lost a lot of money by trading, gambling, and short-term investing with Bitcoin. I have even seen people who promise to double or triple their capital in 10-15 days!
It is indeed not a stretch to claim that believing that Bitcoin is a way to get rich overnight is a fatal trap that has taken thousands of lives. False advertisements and social media outrage over the tripling of balances within a few days are making the newcomers blinded by the truth of the market risk.

Loss brought about by foolish trading is usually relieved by an upcasting of the instrument. However, the first elementary move to protecting the overall financial strength of your personal finance is to discipline yourself against some manipulative pieces of advice.


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August 25, 2026, 11:23:51 PM
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What's your opinion?
Of course, the world have programmed their mindset in such a way that they mostly consume information about how to get something easier and quicker, that is why people will continue to get scammed. Social media influencers are just after how to convince their followers on the good side of an investment, they never talk about the ugly side of it. If you want to make fast money then you should invest on real assets but as for bitcoin, you will have to be patient enough for your investment to grow. No good investor has made quick profits in bitcoin, it is always long term holdings that made people rich in bitcoins
This speculation of a thing has denied many from seeing the the features and the good sides of Bitcoin.some will hear or get an information  about something and would not bother to make enquiries if the information was true or not, all they do is to accept the information and start sharing it to others. Many who have been if the field and at some point stoped investing base on personal conviction. Reading more and making friends that have deep understanding about Bitcoin matters and will go a long way to help direct from making decisions that will affect ones investment.

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August 26, 2026, 07:53:26 AM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.
It’s true the majority of people come into crypto to make fast money; it’s because they were introduced to Bitcoin and crypto wrongly. They weren’t explained very well how Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have been working. Most people think crypto is one of the things from which we may become rich quick.

To be honest, I have introduced Bitcoin and crypto to a few people; at first, I have explained to them about potential risks. It doesn’t matter if they don’t enter into crypto; it totally depends on them. But they have to know about the potential risk, and also they might need to wait a couple of years to take the profits.

 
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August 26, 2026, 08:14:11 AM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

You notice that it seems easy to earn a lot of money fast, it's for few.

Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?
A person with common sense wouldn't just jump into something without having a deep understanding of how it work or why it gives quick profits. They should have thought of it that if it's giving such quick profits why is everyone not rich by now? U think those set of people are just dumb and they are the ones they end up selling when Bitcoin price doesn't move as they expect.
Also since they lack knowledge they just invest wrongly, and their investment is usually influenced by success stories they often hear which makes them to believe with Bitcoin money can never lost.

I think people should start to prioritize learning and researching before going into anything even though it's Bitcoin because no investment can guarantee success all the time.

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August 26, 2026, 08:49:04 AM
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I don't think it will ever fade (quick-profit mentality), considering how streamers are showing their success in making money in just a small amount of time. Even my kids told me they want to be streamers, but I told them to finish school first.

Just because Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies suddenly pumped their price years ago doesn't mean it will repeat itself. It was the years when you had to muster a lot of courage to stay in the game, and very few stayed. The strong ones. Those who really believed that cryptocurrency is the future.
Now, they want the same thing. That cannot happen. It's a different era now. Cryptocurrency is already popular, so it is now a long-term investment while picking the safest currency in the market. Well, one could trade to maybe try to make it faster, but the risk will be there.

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August 26, 2026, 09:57:36 AM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

You notice that it seems easy to earn a lot of money fast, it's for few.

Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?
Don't dream too high and don't expect too much too quickly. Basically, if you want instant results, it's definitely not in the investment realm. Whether it's crypto, Bitcoin, or other investment assets, nothing can make someone rich quickly. So, everything requires a process, and we must enjoy it, and not just focus on the results. Because if your initial intention in entering the crypto realm is simply to get rich quickly, I think that's a bad intention. Ultimately, it will lead you into dangerous trading.

So, just think realistically, because everything requires a process. Regarding long-term holding, I think this is a very good thing. Because in almost every investment sector, everyone always holds for a fairly long period. So, I don't think this can be called speculative. Because every investor clearly analyzes and assesses the potential of the assets they plan to hold long-term. So, that's clearly not speculation, because speculation clearly lacks analysis at all. That's just speculation. So you also have to be able to differentiate between these things.

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August 26, 2026, 09:58:38 AM
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However, Warren Buffett would disagree with the OP. Since in the OP’s post, the speculator is presented as a successful superhero, and the investor as a failure. But is there really a speculator who can afford to simply keep nearly 400 billion dollars in their accounts without using it? Waiting for the market to collapse.

A speculator, in a broad sense, is a gambler. Its opposite is the investor. Of course, many speculators become “involuntary investors.” However, this does not change the principle itself. Either a quick and often random profit, or a long‑term investment.

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August 26, 2026, 11:15:06 AM
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It’s true the majority of people come into crypto to make fast money; it’s because they were introduced to Bitcoin and crypto wrongly. They weren’t explained very well how Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies have been working. Most people think crypto is one of the things from which we may become rich quick.

To be honest, I have introduced Bitcoin and crypto to a few people; at first, I have explained to them about potential risks. It doesn’t matter if they don’t enter into crypto; it totally depends on them. But they have to know about the potential risk, and also they might need to wait a couple of years to take the profits.
If you explain to people the true nature of investing in Bitcoin, many of them will not want to invest because they want quick returns. This is why they are easily attracted to shitcoins and Ponzi schemes that promise outrageous profits.

Bitcoin adoption will increase through Bitcoin awareness; that is why I would always explain Bitcoin to people. But they would hear about the risks of investment before I introduce them to the benefits. Bitcoin is not for everybody, especially those who have very high short-term expectations. The risk of self-custody should also be discussed.

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August 26, 2026, 11:25:20 AM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

If at this time, there are still people that are coming into cryptocurrency with the idea that they will make quick profits then congratulations to them as they will soon get scammed or lose their money. Cryptocurrency are risky investments especially if you want to invest on altcoins, but the problem with most people is that they always feel that they can outsmart the market probably because it did work for them previously so they will assume they have mastered the techniques on how not to incur losses.

Social media is not even helping investors because those of them that are always eager to invest in coins that are trending on social media will always fall to the trap of Cryptocurrency that they were brainwashed to believe that it will skyrocket as soon as they invest in it.

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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

You notice that it seems easy to earn a lot of money fast, it's for few.

Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?

Perhaps the most important thing to always remember is that there is no such thing as easy money... everything that can generate income requires time, efforts and knowledge, especially when it comes to financial aspects.  If you discuss this with other people and they decided not to enter the crypto market because they won’t be able to make money instantly, then that’s perfectly fine. for me, It’s better to give people accurate information than to sugarcoat things just to convince them to invest because If something goes wrong, they might blame you, especially if you failed to tell them about the reality of the crypto world. There are many ways to make money through crypto, but each method has its own risks and requirements that need to be carefully studied and given enough time to learn and understand

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August 26, 2026, 12:40:15 PM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

You notice that it seems easy to earn a lot of money fast, it's for few.

Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?

They wanted fast profits, that is literally what everyone is after with crypto, Bitcoiner are not left out with this obsession of quick return too. I think the foundation of profits in crypto is always fast, the ICO tokens says alot about the journey of crypto, the profit was one of the reason people came and start hunting altcoins until many of them disappointed them and I can tell you that till now many are hanging around waiting for that profit to sell their bags.

Let me take you back in time, if not for lack of patience that many people had, I don't see any cogent reason why any person should invest in meme coins but even the Bitcoin investors were on the timelike shilling scam coins because their investment were not giving them anything. They were looking for the next 100x where they can turn $100 to $10k, most of them sold their reputation for quick profits and most of those coins are down to nothing.

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August 26, 2026, 12:41:06 PM
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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

You notice that it seems easy to earn a lot of money fast, it's for few.

Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?
My opinion is that social media hype has blinded many into believing crypto is a get-rich scheme. When that doesn't happen as they were led to believe, they start calling crypto a scam, forgetting that social media feeds from all these influencers are the ones that fed them the wrong mentality about crypto. That's why everyone should be mindful of the information they absorb from social media. Because the information shared over there can destroy and bring your finances down if you don't learn to DYOR in every news or information passed.

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The majority come to the cryptocurrency market wanting fast profit.

If you told people that having a good profit takes years, many wouldn't even come, it's a wrong mentality, fruit of low quality information from social media.

And the majority start in the most difficult of the financial market, the speculation that few have success at, the majority lose.
With losses of a lot of money, stress, even addiction.

The root cause of these faulty mentality is mostly the information source, most times, these people get their information form the wrong source and that alone position them for  a very wrong start, if they have the wright information form the very beginning, the chances are that they will be of a very different orientation that will help them attempt investing better than they do now.

The motivation behind most entries is mostly from successful stories of others they find around without having to consider the build ups that led to that story, they only consider that it took what seemed like a short time for that success to be achieved and so they don't get the part of the story where the person who had such success had to go through several years of learning and preparations for that moment which they saw, so this could take years to learn and understand and then a few days or weeks to get the success, but you must have the whole process to get the success which most of these persons possibly miss.
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Today, every second person can call themselves an investor and every third person a programmer. AI is teaching everyone. Someone read a beautiful advertisement and an example-sometimes made up-of successful investment in something on social media, and they are also in a hurry to repeat, copy, and bring these successful stories to life. Few people will read and do their own research, looking for fully verified information; people are in a hurry not to miss out on opportunities. In the past, education was required to become a successful financier; now it's not fashionable, and many say they don't need it. This is why frustrated speculators emerge-because people's education has come to take second place after their self-confidence and trust in various kinds of fraudsters.

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What's your opinion?

Nothing can be achieved overnight, and to achieve anything, you need to follow the process. Sometimes people don't live in real time; rather, they live more in an imaginary world and staying on that side always disappoints you. So we need to understand that things do not always work as you imagine. I don't know why people don't like holding Bitcoin for a long-term time frame, and what wrongs in this? Well, let's say anyone/you is saving their money for their child's future in banks and in this way they are holding it for the long term in banks. Just tell me, is it safe?

Obviously not. Because your money is getting devalued over the passage of time due to the increasing rate of inflation. Why do such kind of people not understand that it is far better to hold money in any asset like Bitcoin, real estate, gold, or any other asset? That has the ability to fight against the rising rate of inflation because they gain value over time. Well, this is my point of view. DYOR!

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Mainly if you are a small investor.

What's your opinion?
For a small investor it takes longer time to make meaningful profit and it is even more frustrating when starting out because while others with huge capital get a tangible profit on a long-term hodl small investors get returns that might not look too attractive to withdraw this where consistent accumulation comes preferably the DCA method such that when its time to reap from what we have all invested it wouldn't look like a wasted effort but rather a time to smile back at our accumulation and what profit it has generated.

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"There is no easy way to get rich quick with Bitcoin" is a phrase that speculators may not be familiar with or may not want to believe. There are often people on social media who see Bitcoin as nothing more than a way to get rich, and even think that Bitcoin is only for the rich. Eventually, they get into Bitcoin, rush into it, and end up losing money. You can probably guess what happens next, blaming Bitcoin.

When you say that people even think that Bitcoin is only for the rich, you mean that they think that the potential surge to, for example, $1M wouldn't be enough to make them rich even if they invested several thousands? or is it more like some people still think that they must buy a whole Bitcoin?

BTW, shouldn't the title be like "The hodler is a frustrated speculator."? Or can we also call hodl to the person who holds?


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