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TheButterZone
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August 31, 2026, 04:46:37 AM |
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A Cryptographically Relevant Quantum Computer (CRQC) running Shor's algorithm can turn an exposed public key into a private key. When you sign bitcoin messages, you expose the public key.
That's something I wish I'd learned before signing publicly-staked bitcoin address messages (not that you can prevent people from paying to one you never had BTC on to begin with)...
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Shishir99
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August 31, 2026, 06:13:05 AM |
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Good to see a new addition on your website. I have seen the same tool on multiple websites already. I think Bitlist also has it. But thanks for the new tool. A Cryptographically Relevant Quantum Computer (CRQC) running Shor's algorithm can turn an exposed public key into a private key. When you sign bitcoin messages, you expose the public key.
That's something I wish I'd learned before signing publicly-staked bitcoin address messages (not that you can prevent people from paying to one you never had BTC on to begin with)...
There is no reason to regret it. Creating a new wallet does not cost you anything. You don't need to use the same wallet if you think using it will be a risk for you. I am glad that a Bitcoin wallet is free. I have signed a message from one of my addresses, but that does not mean I will keep my funds in this wallet. I can always choose not to use it anymore. If you are afraid of signing a message using your Bitcoin wallet address, you can always choose PGP instead.
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TheButterZone
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August 31, 2026, 06:20:09 AM Last edit: August 31, 2026, 11:18:56 AM by TheButterZone |
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A Cryptographically Relevant Quantum Computer (CRQC) running Shor's algorithm can turn an exposed public key into a private key. When you sign bitcoin messages, you expose the public key.
That's something I wish I'd learned before signing publicly-staked bitcoin address messages (not that you can prevent people from paying to one you never had BTC on to begin with)...
There is no reason to regret it. Creating a new wallet does not cost you anything. You don't need to use the same wallet if you think using it will be a risk for you. I am glad that a Bitcoin wallet is free. I have signed a message from one of my addresses, but that does not mean I will keep my funds in this wallet. I can always choose not to use it anymore. If you are afraid of signing a message using your Bitcoin wallet address, you can always choose PGP instead. It's not free (zero-fee) to send BTC from one address to another anymore. And yes, I use PGP.
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Shishir99
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August 31, 2026, 07:12:25 AM |
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It's not free (zero-fee) to send BTC from one address to another anymore. And yes, I use PGP.
It is good to know that you use PGP. I don't know what makes you think that I don't know that there is a transaction fee. I said it is free because I never thought you would care about the transaction fee, which is a couple of cents at this moment. I was terrified at some point when the Ordinals thing blocked the entire mempool, and people had to spend $50 as a transaction fee to transfer their Bitcoin from one wallet to another. Lucky us that the craze faded away and the transaction fee is normal again. I am sure you would pay even $50 for your security if you think someone would get your private keys. So, let's not think much about the tiny transaction fee.
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TheButterZone
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August 31, 2026, 08:20:50 AM |
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It's not free (zero-fee) to send BTC from one address to another anymore. And yes, I use PGP.
It is good to know that you use PGP. I don't know what makes you think that I don't know that there is a transaction fee. I said it is free because I never thought you would care about the transaction fee, which is a couple of cents at this moment. I was terrified at some point when the Ordinals thing blocked the entire mempool, and people had to spend $50 as a transaction fee to transfer their Bitcoin from one wallet to another. Lucky us that the craze faded away and the transaction fee is normal again. I am sure you would pay even $50 for your security if you think someone would get your private keys. So, let's not think much about the tiny transaction fee. Think harder, don't move goalposts.
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bitmover (OP)
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August 31, 2026, 09:38:55 AM |
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Good to see a new addition on your website. I have seen the same tool on multiple websites already. I think Bitlist also has it. But thanks for the new tool. As far as i know they only have a pgp verifier, and it doesnt work for any pgp key. Only for listed services. A Cryptographically Relevant Quantum Computer (CRQC) running Shor's algorithm can turn an exposed public key into a private key. When you sign bitcoin messages, you expose the public key.
That's something I wish I'd learned before signing publicly-staked bitcoin address messages (not that you can prevent people from paying to one you never had BTC on to begin with)...
There is no reason to regret it. Creating a new wallet does not cost you anything. You don't need to use the same wallet if you think using it will be a risk for you. I am glad that a Bitcoin wallet is free. I have signed a message from one of my addresses, but that does not mean I will keep my funds in this wallet. I can always choose not to use it anymore. If you are afraid of signing a message using your Bitcoin wallet address, you can always choose PGP instead. Exposing your public key wont harm your secuirty. If quantum computers will be able to do that one day, they will need to expend a lot of computation power to Crack the private key from the public key. Your address with few satoshis wont be a target If you think people will target your coins, certainly paying $ 0.01 in a bitcoin transaction wont be a problem and you hold many millions of dollars in such address.
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examplens
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August 31, 2026, 09:46:48 AM |
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Glad to see a new tool added here. Given that other similar tools have an incomplete list of currently active services, especially those present on the forum, I would suggest perhaps adding favorites, which will contain the address base of most active services. This would simplify the verification of the letter of guarantee, and the user would not have to additionally search for the signing address
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bitmover (OP)
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September 01, 2026, 01:01:42 AM |
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It is in my todo list to add support to taproot addresses. Thanks. I will take a look soon
added support for BBCode sharing:  Result: Verified here
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Cinexa
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September 01, 2026, 05:02:58 AM |
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This looks good. I have them on my website as well. I posted the message below. But seems like no is interested to try. I only knew about bitlist, loyce.club and bpip. It looks like your website has many tools as well. I am building something that collects data from all these websites.
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examplens
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September 03, 2026, 05:26:35 PM |
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This looks good. I have them on my website as well. I posted the message below. But seems like no is interested to try. I only knew about bitlist, loyce.club and bpip. It looks like your website has many tools as well. I am building something that collects data from all these websites.
You spam someone's thread to promote your service.  If you are already going to spend your time making some tools, why not dedicate yourself to something innovative, which will really bring some benefit? What is the point of making the same tools that already exist? We are all quite used to the existing tools and websites, and your efforts are doomed to failure right from the start.
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Cinexa
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This looks good. I have them on my website as well. I posted the message below. But seems like no is interested to try. I only knew about bitlist, loyce.club and bpip. It looks like your website has many tools as well. I am building something that collects data from all these websites.
You spam someone's thread to promote your service.  If you are already going to spend your time making some tools, why not dedicate yourself to something innovative, which will really bring some benefit? What is the point of making the same tools that already exist? We are all quite used to the existing tools and websites, and your efforts are doomed to failure right from the start. What service and promotion are you talking about? Take a good look at my post, please. I posted about my tool on July 19, not just two days ago. I’m not sure why you’re being so aggressive about it. My website does not display any ads. I have a few tools on my website, and they are for people to learn more about Bitcoin. I am not making any money from it. I would actually appreciate it if someone created another website similar to mine for the Bitcoin community. I didn’t see this coming, to be honest. I don’t understand why the hate. But bitmover commented in my thread and made some good suggestions to improve one of my tools, which I implemented in a day, and he said he liked it.
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examplens
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What service and promotion are you talking about? Take a good look at my post, please. I posted about my tool on July 19, not just two days ago.
Re-read my post and see what I refer to. Also look at the date of your post that I quoted, because my reply refers to it. Don't take everything personally right away, better try to understand what you are being pointed out to. p.s. There's no need for you to answer me here, I won't go into a further offtopic discussion with you here.
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Cinexa
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What service and promotion are you talking about? Take a good look at my post, please. I posted about my tool on July 19, not just two days ago.
Re-read my post and see what I refer to. Also look at the date of your post that I quoted, because my reply refers to it. Don't take everything personally right away, better try to understand what you are being pointed out to. p.s. There's no need for you to answer me here, I won't go into a further offtopic discussion with you here. Your reply did not changed my point of view. Once again, I did not promote my service anywhere. It is one dev letting the other dev checking their work and expecting some comments. Spam is something else. yes, I took it personally because I think you were rude. If you cannot appreciate others work, just ignore them. There is no reason telling peoples efforts are doomed to failure right from the start. What you call as failure is my success. You should do something better and let everyone see how you do it, and why your work is better than someone else. Moreover, this is not off-topic. I am still discussing about the tool built by bitmover and I. I appreciate he checked my tools. You don't care about the discussion being off-topic, you just don't have a valid argument.
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