bitbollo needs help - Is it worth the blood?

[bitbollo]

seems like the important part here is getting all the details documented before things get more heated. if there's a dispute over funds, the transaction records and messages should probably make it easier to see what actually happened. the arguing back and forth isn't really helping either side.

yeah once a money dispute turns into personal arguments, it gets a lot harder to figure out what actually happened. i'd rather see the transaction details and the full conversation laid out first. that would make it easier for people reading the thread to judge the situation.

Its not matter of funds even it has been explained dozens of time that these are scams made with purpose.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67172494#msg67172494 It has repeated dozen of times...
We are approaching 10 pages about this scam - still not enough evidence. What is a better, a selection of scam of the pasts, or wait a few weeks for the next scam?

Please don't derail again=
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.0 scam accusation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171394#msg67171394 Links with sister scam casino
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67168369#msg67168369 Links of warnings they was not answering since many days / trust a newbie as "team"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 4 scams of the last 6 months (all with the same scheme)
Why they continue to reply "it's not enough 100 USD for close a flag?" Why they continue to not comment all of these evidences ?

[MotoLM]

If you recall, before turning to me, b1exch was originally an LM client. As soon as this was announced, systematic attacks against the project and against me began (this is not an isolated case). LM is attacking me and projects associated with me in the name of cLoazyL (as you know, memehunter officially works for LM as he himself has stated).

You are assuming this and for your kind info, this is totally a wrong assumption. I have no connection with the guy created the thread.

[JollyGood]

ths thread shows why people should keep screenshots, payment records, and clear agreements when dealing with casino campaigns. it makes disputes much easier to verify.

I have no idea who you are and I am not interested either but you have posted as a newbie in a thread in the Reputation board that you should have literally no interest in if you were a real newbie. Why have you made yourself part of the debate? Granted, you are operating a newbie account but every member reading your post will conclude you definitely are not new to the forum.

Word, I have been calling out LM myself and got credited with 2 useless feedbacks from him. This guy really is something else and the way he spoke to Bitbollo is basically a copy of the way he spoke to me. This guy cannot be trusted in my opinion, taking on every casino gig possible, despite the questionable results in the past, just looks very shady. Money over safety of others. Promoting these scam casinos harms other people that actually fall for them, yet of course it's all not his fault.
But hey, if you say something he immediately retaliates, that's the power of DT1. You confuse something and he immediately calls you out for "spreading lies" (despite instant edit and apology) yet that's what he does to earn money. Lie to people that certain sites are a safe place to play.
He even got a certain person to change their trust to distrust, that's the power of the puppetmaster.  

Too bad too many people still don't see his true face, but sooner or later everyone will.

This is an interesting post. No doubt you too could be caught up in a massive amount of posts that are designed to attack you and/or designed to bury your comments.

Every member has a right to post their opinions about another member and they should be able to do it without facing a coordinated retaliation strategy designed to demonstrate that the cliques will take action against those willing to voice valid concerns. If groups aligned with the same ideology want to suppress voices that are concerned with their conduct, then all members of the community have a responsibility to ensure they do not succeed.

As a community, we should all be able to post about our concerns regardless of whether they relate to a newbie or any established members.

seems like the important part here is getting all the details documented before things get more heated. if there's a dispute over funds, the transaction records and messages should probably make it easier to see what actually happened. the arguing back and forth isn't really helping either side.

Another newbie account posting in a thread they should have no interest participating in.

yeah once a money dispute turns into personal arguments, it gets a lot harder to figure out what actually happened. i'd rather see the transaction details and the full conversation laid out first. that would make it easier for people reading the thread to judge the situation.

Yet another newbie account posting in a thread they should have no interest participating in.

The negative feedback and arguments are probably going to make people take sides before they even get through the actual details.

Well, another newbie account posting in a thread they should have no interest participating in.

[AB de Royse777]

Pales in comparison, what goes behind the scenes, tip of the iceberg...

I once allowed myself to speak quite harshly about a certain manager after being provoked, but that pales in comparison to what goes on behind the scenes (including comments from project owners who, to put it mildly, regret their initial choice due to the utter incompetence of certain individuals).

Hello "the honest" or "the good" guy whatever you try to portrait yourself in-public. Can we go here not now but after all these fuss is over? Let the place cools down first. Then one to one - you and me - publicly. You seem to try everything to look me bad and constantly doing it by teaming* with your buddies. Let me give you some clue in case you are wondering.





You can start with the number of times you have played such type of dirty games with my clients.

*Regarding this teaming thing - I got that offer a lot of times and yesterday it came again. This is interesting, let me share a snap LOL

[nutildah]

At this stage, the problem is not with Bitbollo.

While the other tags and flags are more debatable, the red tag on Shishir99 is clearly a reactive overreach. Its not necessary; thus it is still a problem.

A simple way to remove this flag existed for a long time, yet it was ignored. Perhaps you should look at the situation considering the full picture.

If you recall, before turning to me, b1exch was originally an LM client. As soon as this was announced, systematic attacks against the project and against me began (this is not an isolated case).
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This unequivocally means that cLoazyL was directed by someone who possessed links that had not been posted on the project's website at the time of my announcement.

I just read the whole thread and it appears to be a case of attacking the messenger, who had a very valid message... even if it was delivered annoyingly, and perhaps in direct contradiction with a prior moral stance. Maybe you're right, but the evidence at this point is mostly anecdotal.

[JollyGood]

Just take a look at your ridiculous self-moderated thread where any member posting anything that you do not like or agree with will find the post deleted. It seems as though you have not learned anything from your time in the forum. Who will waste their time posting anything in that thread perceived by you to be anti-Royse777?

What nonsense is this: "Regarding JollyGood and alt account Satofan44 - these two accounts (or one person having their own conversation) are troll towards me. Anyone disagrees? There are a few other accounts too but seems like they are not actively trolling right now."

Stop your obsession with me and learn to be happy for both yourself and for others as it will bring a lot of positivity and happiness to your life.

~

[icopress]

Your interpretation and motives are clear. But you know, I’m sick of you spitting at the back of my head for years—as a token of gratitude. I’ve had at least three opportunities to give you the "lesson" you truly deserve, but I held off, wanting to give you a second or third chance.

As soon as I have the time, we will discuss your behavior, and I will put a permanent end to this ongoing saga.

[AB de Royse777]

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Subject: obsession by numbers

[JollyGood]

Your interpretation and motives are clear. But you know, I’m sick of you spitting at the back of my head for years—as a token of gratitude. I’ve had at least three opportunities to give you the "lesson" you truly deserve, but I held off, wanting to give you a second or third chance.

As soon as I have the time, we will discuss your behavior, and I will put a permanent end to this ongoing saga.

If it helps the buffoon wake up, please do not give him any more chances. He has had plenty of chances and instead of being grateful for what the forum has provided for him, he thinks the forum revolves around him.

~

You are looking more of a fool today than you did yesterday. Stop your obsession with any member that posts something you do not like.

[bitbollo]

Sure. Don't trust verify.
I have provided dozens of proofs and explained clearly why these users deserve a red trust.
If you don't trust me it's ok but you cannot pretend we have to not warning users before they read other suggestions about :
- "hey why escalate so fast - 7 days?" - or
- "hey have you play to the best tower game - in a scam website?"

TODAY HAS BEEN HACKERED BITGET - CAN WE OPEN AN HARRASSING TOPIC ABOUT USERS HAVE NOT WAIT 7 DAYS FOR WARNING ABOUT THE HACK?
AND I WOULD LIKE TO READ AN ANSWERS ALSO ABOUT THE PROPER TIMELINE FOR OPENING A SCAM ACCUSATION AGAINST @yogg and COLDCARD
(DOUBLE STANDARDS with scammers are the best! )

Can I read some evidences and not just "in my opinion"?  I have explained why all of these red tag are appropriate. Read just the proofs, after 9 pages of "it's all true" what is "sufficient for you"?

I agree with the views expressed; the reasons cited previously are insufficient to support that flag. LM did not intend to breach or harm the contract (the issue arose from negligence) so I oppose that flag.

Insufficient you mean that I need to post another 5 scam of the last 12 months and you have also evaluated this scam "live right now" ?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67174787#msg67174787  

Just Asking because I can understand that maybe once there 10 scams "that can be recognized in 2 minutes" someone will say "insufficient" ... why not 15 scams to be scammer? or 20? Or I don't know, how many cards has to peel @yogg to be a scammer? Or cold card, how many hardware need to fail? LOL I love double standards.

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The same applies to @Shishir99's situation. I do not know @bitbollo, but I would kindly ask him to remove that negative rating.

I am a pharmacist in real life and this is an information that can be find easily. Member of bitcoin Italian association since 2015 blablablabl...
Once this guy has questioned "mental or health help" we haven't nothing to deal anymore and he is untrustworthy. It's rude, offensive, a disturbing comment considering all scams have been confirmed and "campaign manager" call the scammers as "the team". Still looking for better idea! Yeah it's sufficient for a flag!

Many users knows me in real life and trust in many many things and activities. I have never seen someone that promotes 1 scam 1 month have such defense but you can't buy trust of people.
As I have said, such topic is a pure defamation and has just exposed more scam of this "campaign manager".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 4 scams of the last 6 months (all with the same scheme)
This user has never admit the full list of scam, or the total non-sense reaction or worst how it has still endorsed the "casino"
"come on take 100 USD and shut up"

This user has offensively and threateningly quoted and mentioned all the users who have added me to their trust list. Definitely a spammer and a low-quality shill account.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.msg67165341#msg67165341

This user shill and supports a scam casino and an user that has clearly violated an agreement according a written agreement. Shitposter/Low quality too. Check reference.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.msg67165386#msg67165386

Once there are 3 pages of FROGBET TOPIC talking about 7 days of missing payment/stolen deposits, it's completely off topic and pretty scam approach presenting them as "the best tower game". It's the same as @yogg art. Once he was scamming no one was admiring his art. @ChiBitCTy has already explained a glimpse about this.

He has called 7 days as "escaleted fasted as light". I don't trust his judgement. How many days we have to wait before claiming a scam?
I have waited for 7 days and providing ALL ALERTS POSSIBLE.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67168369#msg67168369 Links of warnings they was not answering since many days / trust a newbie as "team"

If all these days / these warnings/ list of scams/ is not enough for adding a trust negative - and the problem has become my person/role - it's evident the DT system is completely failed

I can continue to quote endless the same and same answers that definetely explain why there is a specific trust rating.
Bitcoin is based on evidences, opinions are worth zero But it's more easy provide OPINIONS and SKIPS EVIDENCE AND FACTS.

We have just reached 10 pages of the scam. Despite an entire topic to harrass and defame my person - and not to address the scam accusation - same users involved continue to have "better idea on how to works with scammers".

What is a better, a selection of scam of the pasts, or wait a few weeks for the next scam?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.0 scam accusation
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171394#msg67171394 Links with sister scam casino
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67168369#msg67168369 Links of warnings they was not answering since many days / trust a newbie as "team"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67171810#msg67171810 4 scams of the last 6 months (all with the same scheme)

Would you bet 5K USD ? Where are these moneys now? Ah yes... he is very good resource since 2022! Sure, it's very good to use AI - proof attached.
Why these users are allowed and justified in all these scam/offensive actions - I don't know - but they will red tagged accordingly.

Shishir99 has been contributing to this thread since 2022. Your first post here was to announce your AI detector. Before I make any incorrect assumptions, maybe you can help me understand your end goal: do you want us to replace our current system with your detector, or do you want us to add it to the list of detectors we are using?

Have you see also how much drama he is ready to make by itself?

You said - I used AI, I am a scammer, I am a spammer, a shill, a suckpuppet. If you cannot prove all of them, you have to pay me $5K for wasting my time. If you can prove it, I will send you $5K. You choose the escrow, and I will send the funds. Deal?

First post with AI and then is ready to "I will send you $5K. You choose the escrow, and I will send the funds. Deal?"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67165534#msg67165534
Where are these 5K USD? Is words have no reasons to be trusted and there are too much actions too justify these red trust. Otherwise please go ahead an trust this guy.

You can see your guys "good with AI" using it and then denying it

Not derail - you posted a long comment immediately after 5 minutes.
https://bitlist.co/post/67165534/versions

It was formatted with AI. You complete to act as a complete liar. Haven't you done for today right?

[nutildah]

- "hey why escalate so fast - 7 days?" - or
- "hey have you play to the best tower game - in a scam website?"

These are not good reasons to leave a red trust on an otherwise productive forum member. Its an overblown response based more in emotion than reason. The first point is a non-issue. You are blowing things out of proportion by equating it with non-trustworthiness. The second point can happen to anybody. Its a continuance of promoting a scam after clear warning signs have been established that should matter. I do not consider Shishir99's actions to be indications of untrustworthiness, nor do most others who have bothered to chime in so far.

I'm not going to ask you to consider removing the red trust on that account in particular. You should want to do it on your own, because its the right thing to do.

[bitbollo]

- "hey why escalate so fast - 7 days?" - or
- "hey have you play to the best tower game - in a scam website?"

I have left 10 pages of explanations in two topics and these actions are typical of shill of scammers.

Can we clarify after many days we can open a scam accusations without being public treated like a shit?
Can we clarify (so all users of forum can use this deouble standard next time) why this users has been allowed to deny there was a scam despite there was 3 pages of topic talking about the scam?

After 20/25 messages and a full topic explaining a scam ongoing since a week https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594694.0
I have been treated like a shit by this user despite was everything true. He has never replied to my observation but has just try to retiliate calling me "liar".
Also the trust the he left has no sense.
Have you see lies here? No, thats just another confirmations he is not a trustworthy user.

At this point, lets be clear here: some users have an indefinite list of scams behaviour condoned. Meanwhile reputable users have no chance to highlight scammers and scam behaviours.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5594724.msg67177548#msg67177548 These are facts and evidences.

Opinions are based on? Yes he is so productive that has spent an entire topic to harrass me, and still you cannot comment about "the bet of 5K USD"...
He lose the bets. He was lying even on this.  I find something pretty questionable this approach to not look on EVIDENCES.

Anyone that has continued to advertise and promote a casino despite it's a confirmed scam deserve just a red trust.

- "hey why escalate so fast - 7 days?" - or
- "hey have you play to the best tower game - in a scam website?"

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