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September 22, 2026, 11:22:27 PM
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This must be very painful on your friend. But we all know no one is an exception from scamming, we can all turn victims in no time, so the best we can do is  be more vigilant in everything we do especially if valuable assets like bitcoin is involved.

For now, I don't think he can start investing again. But he should not consider also scamming innocent people just to take revenge, that's actually out of the picture. He needs more time to heal and recover. After all, bitcoin is just a material, he can always replaced it when he's ready again, though it may take long years to complete 10 btc again.


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September 22, 2026, 11:36:45 PM
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I understand where all this coming from, too much pain and frustration will eventually lead you to take some wrong decisions in life that could also make you regret in the future. Scamming other people will never be the solution. Your friend knows already the feeling of getting scammed, and I don't think he can bear the frustration of his future victims if he's decided already to be one of those fuck scammers.

This is the reason why you're there as a friend too, to direct his negative mindset into something that he'll be thankful in the future.

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September 22, 2026, 11:51:24 PM
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Even if I'll say don't take this matter so much but I know losing 10 btc is never that easy especially that he reserve it for his family and kids in the future. So one thing I can say, just take time to rest and heal, and never invest for now. In due time, all this fears and trauma will eventually get healed, he just have to be strong for his family.

For OP, I guess be your friend's back up this time. He needs you this time, more than those lost btc that caused him traumatic experience.

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September 22, 2026, 11:52:57 PM
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I suggest you show sympathy and be a good listener and tell your that you will stand by him through these difficult times. Do not give him too much advice right now unless he asks for it, its normal if he has dark thought because right now, he is in a state of severe shock, turmoil, and despair.

Based on my own experience, you should pay more attention to his basic needs. Usually fraud victim often forget to eat, lazy to take bath or cannot sleep. You just accompany him for meal, have something warm to drink, or just go for a walk to take his mind off for a while.

When i became victim fraud, after I can accept and calm down. what i do first are gathering evidence and reporting to the police. After that I put may attention to checking and reviewing my financial condition. Trust me, It will be easier to get through this shock when we have a healthy strong financial foundation which is stable positif income and long enough emergency fund saving.

Prolonged stress, despair, and a clouded mind, that your friend is experiencing maybe because he doen't have healthy financial condtion, maybe he do investment using daily needed expenses, emergency saving fund or taking out loan with interest. So after he calm, asked him to do checklist on his own financial condition and rebuild again his financial structure and his portofolio. The last is improving your friend's SOP for disbursing funds, particularly for investments.

Regarding become a scammer, i believe the law of sowing and reaping. Being good is part of our identity and is for our own good.

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September 22, 2026, 11:55:54 PM
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It sounds sad because your friend is hit by losing his valuable asset, it will obviously make someone feel hopeless and can lose faith in the system. But having the thought of being a fraudster is a dead end that needs to be avoided.

In addition to being illegal, the risks are much greater such as the law, reputation and life could be unsettled and could even end up worse than it is now.

It is difficult to deal with such problems, which can sometimes make your thoughts dark. At least try to give a more positive approach to focus on recovery, not revenge. The goal is not to blame yourself, but to learn so that it doesn't happen again.

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September 22, 2026, 11:56:02 PM
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I know how frustrating it is  be scammed, but you don't give bad advice, let alone seek revenge. So what's the difference between us and a scammer?
My advice is to make that mistake a valuable experience. After all, success doesn't come easily. If you think you're going to make a quick profit, you should change that mindset, because everything requires a slow process. Teach and guide your friends and explain the risks beforehand.

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September 23, 2026, 03:02:32 AM
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After many years in crypto space he seems to have failed and tired 😩😫

He came to my place yesterday and what he said shocked me as I wasn't expecting such..

Friend, I think we all got it wrong, in crypto space it pays to become a scammer than trying so hard to be an investor and still fail, gullible people are everywhere they will fall for one or two scams easily, he said.

I believe this is coming from his side of frustration, he lost his long time holding in February 2026, I guess he hasn't gotten over it yet obviously, mind you I talked him out of scamming others like a revenge thing.

After he went back home I thought about it very well, scammers are really making a killing in this space, and they are doing it for free, getting away with it, but hurting a human like myself is what I can't do, imagine stealing 10 BTC that belongs to a father who have saving it for years, planning to leave it behind for his family if possible.

Do you have better advice? Genuinely? For my friend.
The point is, bringing someone like that to their senses is clearly not easy, because your friend seems to be in a very difficult situation. He's lost a lot of money and feels that the crypto world is cruel... However, this isn't the case if we're careful and don't act rashly. So,, my solution for your friend is to do good and improve his life. There are still many ways to improve his life. If your friend is truly a fraud,, it will clearly be detrimental to him in the future. And believe me,, living as a fraudster will not bring true peace. Because, fundamentally, his life will be constantly overshadowed by guilt and fear. Therefore,, my advice is to restrain him from falling into that dark realm. Furthermore, your friend also seems to need to improve his mindset, as he seems too obsessed with getting rich quickly. In reality,, everything takes time. So, up to this point to your friend, if he hasn't changed his mind, then I don't know what to do either.

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September 23, 2026, 04:19:59 AM
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Do you have better advice? Genuinely? For my friend.

Like everyone already pointed out, turning into scammer is not solution. Tell your friend that do not let one mistake snowball into another.

Lost money can be earned back, but becoming a scammer, that's a way worse consequence and there might not even be a chance to start over after that. Going down that path will not just ruin his future, it'll drag his whole family and loved ones down with him too.

Don't put all your eggs in a single basket. Invest in bitcoin, invest in other assets as well outside crypto, that way when one fails, you still have other assets that are working in progress.


Yeah, another lesson on why you should not put all your eggs in one basket. Hopefully the guy out here going allin on bitcoin hoping to flip their money overnight will finally wake up and realize the massive risk of betting everything on a single investment.

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September 23, 2026, 05:29:18 AM
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[...]

Friend, I think we all got it wrong, in crypto space it pays to become a scammer than trying so hard to be an investor and still fail, gullible people are everywhere they will fall for one or two scams easily, he said.

I believe this is coming from his side of frustration, he lost his long time holding in February 2026, I guess he hasn't gotten over it yet obviously, mind you I talked him out of scamming others like a revenge thing.
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How your friend becomes victim of hacking or scams?

No one can get over easily if with that kind if incident because imagine all of your hard-earned money just stole with other people instantly so that's the reason why his perspective now changes when it comes to crypto. Reality wise is there are really well skilled people can create an attack to stole other people information and assets that's why here in the community we also fed other members an information about different attacks so at least they can protect themselves and their money.

With that all you can do is give space to him because its hard to accept like that but this is not the end he can start again.

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September 23, 2026, 05:31:02 AM
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I don’t even know what can be said in such a situation, let alone what advice to give. Losing all your money is a terrible blow. Of course, it’s not as terrible as the death of a loved one, or a serious illness, or a severe injury. But it’s far from easy to fully recover from something like that. It’s no wonder that after such a thing, a person starts thinking that only scammers and thieves succeed. This is a trial that one will have to go through.

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September 23, 2026, 05:45:54 AM
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After many years in crypto space he seems to have failed and tired 😩😫

He came to my place yesterday and what he said shocked me as I wasn't expecting such..

Friend, I think we all got it wrong, in crypto space it pays to become a scammer than trying so hard to be an investor and still fail, gullible people are everywhere they will fall for one or two scams easily, he said.

I believe this is coming from his side of frustration, he lost his long time holding in February 2026, I guess he hasn't gotten over it yet obviously, mind you I talked him out of scamming others like a revenge thing.

After he went back home I thought about it very well, scammers are really making a killing in this space, and they are doing it for free, getting away with it, but hurting a human like myself is what I can't do, imagine stealing 10 BTC that belongs to a father who have saving it for years, planning to leave it behind for his family if possible.

Do you have better advice? Genuinely? For my friend.

It is not easy to forget the pain of losing your coin, especially when you have given all your life to the coin. I understand his frustration and anger, but he should not think of doing something that will arm humans like him. Although scammers are also human, they have already sold their souls to become something that no one will forgive them. Imagine stealing from what someone has worked so hard for, as a person who is not used to it, you will always feel guilty for scamming.

My advice to your friend is to understand that failure is not the end of the world, and that losing his coin does not mean he will never be able to bounce back, it will be difficult to return to the same level as before, but the best thing he can do is not do anything that will cause him to regret his actions later.

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September 23, 2026, 06:37:54 AM
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That is sound of desperation feeling after losing money but that is right to decide to be a scammer. You should stop him doing that and reminds him that investing is our decision and needs research before we decide. We can't fall forever but trying to rise and lift your head and realize that everything we take will have risks.

Tell him, many people fails in crypto but only few could rise and trying again. Learning is the thing your friend need although that is not easy but that is worth to do.

He can try to search for other if he gives up on crypto and forget his losses. Becoming scammers will not let him keep making money because he can't earn money forever.

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Even if I'll say don't take this matter so much but I know losing 10 btc is never that easy especially that he reserve it for his family and kids in the future. So one thing I can say, just take time to rest and heal, and never invest for now. In due time, all this fears and trauma will eventually get healed, he just have to be strong for his family.
For OP, I guess be your friend's back up this time. He needs you this time, more than those lost btc that caused him traumatic experience.
If I were in your friend's shoes, I think I would feel the same way. Losing 10 BTC in 2026 would be incredibly frustrating, and I might well vent my disappointment by saying things like that. Being a scammer can be more lucrative because most victims have no idea where the scammer is located or which country they are in, making them very difficult to track down. I understand those feelings. However, please don't let your friend dwell on that disappointment and turn into a scammer. Initially, it might just be a matter of anger and frustration. You need to stand by them and offer moral support. While scamming might bring in a lot of money, ultimately, your friend won't be happy, and their life will be filled with guilt.

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September 23, 2026, 07:17:39 AM
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Karma have its way of paying back everyone with either good or bad, just because someone do you evil doesn't mean you should return the evil, let karma strikes them and trust me it might not happen right away but with time something will happen to them.

It's not all sicknesses that are natural, many of them are spiritual, it's not every bad accidents that are just bad accidents, some people needs to pay with their lives because they have stripped alot of people naked.

Your friend should learn from his mistake and move on, it's not the end.

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September 23, 2026, 07:58:38 AM
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Your advice is not bad, this is good advice. You cannot recover your lost money by scamming others. A scammer will always be a scammer, you can never be happy by harming someone. Now if your friend is a scammer, what is the difference between the scammer and your friend? Many have already said this, I will also say that if you stumble in life, you should try to stand up again.

That is why people say that you should invest in crypto only what you can afford to lose. Funds should be kept in multiple wallets so that if one is damaged, the other is safe. Although it is not easy to forget about the lost money, but you should try to console him.

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Yeah, here is some advice: scamming is easy. Also, robbing houses is easy. But the reason why most people do not do it is because the punishment is not worth it. And eventually you will get caught, it is only a matter of time.

So maybe re-think whether ruining your life and credit for some quick cash which will disspate in time anyway because 99.9999% of scammer is not making millions. Maybe a few hundred there a few thousand here and at the end of the month you might even not make more than you would with a regular job which would take exactly as much time anyway...

That is my advice to your friend...
Yes, and how did he lose most of his long term holding? He probablyade a bad decision that constantly him that much and instead of taking responsibility for that he is instead looking for a way to pass the blame onto someone else, in this case scammers, he is not saying he got scammed but he is telling himself he did everything the right way and still failed so why not do what scammers are doing, it a way to keep himself from what he actually did wrong and since he probably didn't tell OP so maybe OP should ask his friend to confirm what he did wrong that might have been responsible for his lose and then maybe not do something like that again moving forward.
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September 23, 2026, 08:25:00 AM
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So my advise to your friend is to start investing again, there is always a place of lesson in our life. Time heals and he will be better soon. He now has a better view of what the internet can be and next time he could avoid the mistakes he made either through his wallet securities etc.
Not starting again right away, maybe take a break for a while, clear the mind first and then start investing again when everything already feels lighter.

Because if you invest while carrying a heavy feeling from the previous loss, you probably won't think clearly. With a clear mind, you are more likely to make better decisions and avoid repeating the same mistake. But going back to my question, I think first we need to understand how he actually lost his investment.

Off course what I mean by starting again is that he doesn't need to chase back the lose by trying to scam people. I didn't mean starting again to be immediately. He needs to give himself time and convince himself that he has learnt from his mistakes and errors before going back to investing again. More importantly, to go back into investing, he needs to understand his mistakes to do better next time and that was why I said time heals.


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However I want to say one thing here that even though scammers scam and rob people of their money, they cannot live in peace, especially in peace of mind.
How do you know that scammers don’t have peace of mind? I don’t believe those talks. How can scammers who has succeeded in moving a huge amount like 10 btc without trace not have peace of mind? You think scammers care about what their victims go through? I don’t think they do, investors should take the security of their assets seriously, they shouldn’t allow greed lure them into falling for scam schemes. If scammers don’t have peace of mind, do you think more and more people would be going into scamming? Just make sure you don’t fall victim yourself.

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The scammer can only be caught if there are traces that can lead to their whereabouts. Now the scammer stole bitcoin, how do you intend to catch the scammer especially if the coin wasn’t moved to cex?

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If such a large amount is stolen in crypto and the scammer puts it in a centralized exchange, then it is possible to track the hacker.
Do you think the scammer will be that dumb to move 10 stolen bitcoins to centralized exchange? Scams are not done by fools or unintelligent people. Smart people are the ones that can successfully execute scam operations. It is never easy to convince a total stranger to send you their money or grant you access their their wallet.

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September 23, 2026, 09:07:40 AM
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Do you have better advice? Genuinely? For my friend.
It's good you talked him out of it.

The second golden rule says, "Do unto others as you would want them to do to you."

Yeah, your friend got scammed, and it was hurtful, painful, and all that. However, it shouldn't be the reason to start scamming others too. He should learn from it and move on.

Some persons got scammed, and it encouraged them to learn about scams, and today, they are scam baiters, reporting, preventing, and educating people about scams. Your friend can also be that guy.

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September 23, 2026, 10:18:06 AM
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If your friend decides to start scamming people what else? Use that money to start a family or start buying properties? Like what my country people are doing? They so believe that stealing money and using the money right means you escaped karma or judgement.

Every criminals thinks they are smart until they start to realize that we are not just humans, we are spirit beings too and it's why we have souls, if you don't face your karma while you are alive your soul will suffer for it.

The painful part of every ill gotten money is the innocent souls you bring into the wold eating every rotten things you got them, corrupting their DNA, there is more to life than just how many pictures it.

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