Prince patrick (OP)
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September 23, 2026, 10:09:34 AM |
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When you look around the world and see injustice, crimes and unfairness, it is pretty much easy to say the society is broken or corrupt, but we often forget that the society isn't a living creature or even a monster, it doesn't force people to indulge in bad things. Therefore society is just a framework, society is like the game we play on our mobile devices, it has rules, spaces and goals designed to help people work and live together. We all know that the game itself cannot cheat, lie or steal. So when the game becomes unfair, it is not because the board is evil or corrupt, but it's because the players has chosen to break the game rules.
We must look at what the society actually is, before you can understand why the society itself isn't corrupt, society itself is made up of school, laws, Court and social customs. These systems was designed to bring orderliness, fairness and equality. For example a traffic stop sign does not favor one driver over another, we also have the court, it was designed to seek the truth and help us all fight for justice, it wasn't designed to favor one individual over another. These institutions are designed for our common good.
We have corruption today because some individuals have decided to manipulate this tools for their personal gains, if a student misses school, it doesn't mean the school has failed, but it's the student that failed to attend school, for example if a politician steals a public funds, it is the individual who has acted wrongly, the society or the country shouldn't be blamed. When enough people begin to cheat, the entire system begins to look broken from the outside. Yet the rot is not in the blueprint of the house, it is in the behavior of the occupant.
This distinction matters because resolving an issue requires you to know the true source of the problem, that would help you understand things much better, if we believe that the society itself is corrupt, our thoughts should be destroying the entire society and burn down the board game. Even Changing the rules from one to another will change nothing, as long as the players remain dishonest, you can't also abandon the society because of corruption, that isn't a solution. The solution is to hold individuals accountable of their choices and demand integrity from the people running the institutions.
Lastly, society is like a mirror that only reflects the character of its citizens, mirror cannot create a reflection if nothing is standing at the front of it and it doesn't create a stain, it only shows what stands in front of it. When we see corruption in today's world, we are not looking at a failure society itself, but a collective failure of individual choices. Society provides the field, but is it always up to people to know how they will play on it.
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Accardo
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September 24, 2026, 12:23:16 AM |
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In 1871 there was a fire outbreak in Chicago that burnt down over 18,000 buildings including the city jail, the fire freed up prisoners; robbers and criminals spread out into the society, and capitalized on the disaster, stealing properties and committing all forms of crimes, over $200,000,000 worth of properties was lost out of this fire outbreak. But something remarkable happened, after the fire had stopped, the city of Chicago, perceived to be a state of all kinds of crime and mobsters, was built back brick by brick, by the people to look much better than it was, before the disaster. This story is in line with how a society operates, without the people they'll be no society, and whatever happens, they comes a time when everybody comes together as one to build back a fallen city. The problem today isn't about fallen walls or lost properties, but that of emotional growth, if corruption must be stopped, then it'll have to start from the grassroot, till date Chicago is a tough state in the US, and in the history of Chicago, the story of this fire outbreak never goes untouched, and is called out in a way to show how it impacted the life of young people, I mean kids at that time, who turn out the way they turned out in life, some became criminals, and others killers who joined the Chicago Outfits. So, the life we find in our society, didn't just start today, go back in history, and you'd figure out that it's been there for generations, and they could somehow be a specific cause to why it spread out to more people. Putting a stop to it, would mean changing all of the people at once, which is almost impossible, not everybody would train their kids the right way, even when they do, they're external factors you can't change like the disaster.
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Hewlet
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September 24, 2026, 09:14:12 AM |
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Lastly, society is like a mirror that only reflects the character of its citizens, mirror cannot create a reflection if nothing is standing at the front of it and it doesn't create a stain, it only shows what stands in front of it. When we see corruption in today's world, we are not looking at a failure society itself, but a collective failure of individual choices. Society provides the field, but is it always up to people to know how they will play on it.
We are a product of our choices and decision and this is the reason why in the same country that you have a lot of corrupt people, you will still find a lot of others that are not corrupt because they have decided that they are not going to be influence by things around them. In a society that evil looks like a norm, it is just so because there are more people engaging in evil act than there are that are doing good. when evil people out numbers the good ones, the society is jointly looked at as an evil society and when the reverse is the case, the fruit always shows. A society can be model to look a certain way if the people in that society decides to sieve out negatives from outside them and never allow it infiltrate there culture. the people are the main thing that makes up any society.
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Spaceman1000$
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September 24, 2026, 08:56:49 PM |
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OP, you're write up is quite understandable, it highlights how people can be corrupt in a society and not the society entirely being corrupt, but then there is a caveat towards this explanation and insight you've not given, you should understand that people are made from the society, so if a particular society leave a certain kind of lifestyle, it's might likely reflect on the operational system or the organization of how things are run in that society. If the people are peace loving people, it will reflect on their society, if there are people that like violence, is because that society might probably have a fraction of persons that are violent in nature, people don't just ordinary stay and turn violence in nature, something might have happened to them that have affected their psychology for them to think towards that angle.
So those in leadership especially in political positions, if they are corrupt, then there might be a large portion of their followers that are corrupt as well, people don't just stay and steal public funds without the assistance of others, a single individual cannot steal public money in leadership position, it has always been the collaboration of other persons in that office or in that organization that will help him in Stealing that money, if the leader knows that if he steals money those working with him will expose him, he will not try it.
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EluguHcman
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September 24, 2026, 09:44:07 PM |
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When you look around the world and see injustice, crimes and unfairness, it is pretty much easy to say the society is broken or corrupt, but we often forget that the society isn't a living creature or even a monster, it doesn't force people to indulge in bad things. Therefore society is just a framework, society is like the game we play on our mobile devices, it has rules, spaces and goals designed to help people work and live together. We all know that the game itself cannot cheat, lie or steal. So when the game becomes unfair, it is not because the board is evil or corrupt, but it's because the players has chosen to break the game rules.
Responding to this with the caption of the thread title, it is obviously a misconception with those of the mentality that it is the society that regulates people living in it. There is also no functioning society without the people, the activities and existence of people in a particular area makes up the society so. It is the way of life's in that area that describes the environments as societies while a society does not just exist without humans or lives. Therefore, the ways of lives in that society gives the place the image (identity) of how it is being addressed. Even as it is said that the society has influence, it is being determined and governed by the livings. Society itself is just the nature and the environments we are occupying.
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Unknown Op
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September 24, 2026, 11:12:20 PM |
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Society does not work like a board game that has fixed rules. The people of society create rules and also enforced by the people. Sometimes those rules are fair but sometimes they can be unfair, they can give leverage to powerful people to escape the process of accountability.
If a politician steals money, he is responsible for his actions but when corruption becomes very normal, like every day thing and common in the society because of less accountability or people not getting punished, people know that they can escape easily. Then the problem is bigger than a single individual. It is all because of the weak institutions that have developed weaknesses that are encouraging this criminal behaviour in society again and again. It is the responsibility of everyone to make their choices but these choices are being shaped by society through education, laws, and culture. Corruption is also a cycle. When individual behaviour affects the institutions, if institution is weak, they influence the behaviour of the individual in return.
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Joy_learns_crypto
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September 25, 2026, 04:03:43 PM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
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Rockstarguy
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September 25, 2026, 07:59:23 PM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
This is the same thing I have in mind too. The people are what form the society, so when the society is talked about, it refers to the people in it. When we talk about society, we are not just talking about the environment, and if people do not exist, there will be nothing to refer to as a society. It is the character people exhibit, the kind of lifestyle they live; these are the things that give the name a society deserves. So if the people are bad, then the society is bad, and if the people are good, then the society can also be referred to as good. The people determine what the society will be called.
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Franklyn-wood
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September 25, 2026, 08:44:06 PM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
I agree with you it's not the country that is corrupt but the people in the country, making such an effective decisions now begins with an incoruptible leader. Which means a leader must live by example for him to lead well. If the leaders wants to impact the citizens you must give them reason why they should be obedient to your instructions Or visions. Looking at the fire incident in Chicago that brought about the change we are seeing today, it was not an accidental occurrence, but the vision of a United leader who won't settle for less, and this is worth emulating because it's only leaders who are ready to work that will endeavor to see that things change for good thatn how they met it.
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Popkon6
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September 25, 2026, 10:55:02 PM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
If corruption is at the highest level in the country, then this corruption can be protected even among the lower class people. Because those who are important leaders of the country and are in big responsibilities are the most corrupt, and the people who are with them are even more corrupt. As a result, there are many good people in the society who do not bow down to corruption, but the situation has developed in such a way that corruption is happening and yet we have to remain silent. It has developed to such a level where you will not get proper justice for it, because corruption exists among people from the lowest level to the highest level of the country, so it is difficult to get proper justice for it.
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Muba20
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September 26, 2026, 05:19:59 AM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
Corruption in society actually arises gradually from human behavior and eventually it starts to seem normal. When a responsible person breaks the rules for his own benefit, the people around him also start thinking that such behavior is normal. Again, not only corrupt people, but also those who always remain silent even after seeing injustice can unintentionally help maintain such an environment. When we see any irregularities, we should understand the problem and take action very quickly, which can normalize the situation. Everyone knows about bribery in an organization, but if no one protests, then even newcomers learn to accept it as part of the rules. When everyone knows that bribery is being taken in an organization, then they should take action based on the law. Keeping quiet is not the right thing to do and it is not against the law either. Therefore, change in society cannot start only from big leaders, but can also start from the daily decisions and attitudes of ordinary people towards injustice. It is not always necessary to have a big movement against corruption, it is also important not to tolerate small injustices in one's own place. This is where the relationship between human character and social environment becomes most clear to me.
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September 26, 2026, 10:20:17 AM |
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When you look around the world and see injustice, crimes and unfairness, it is pretty much easy to say the society is broken or corrupt, but we often forget that the society isn't a living creature or even a monster, it doesn't force people to indulge in bad things. Therefore society is just a framework, society is like the game we play on our mobile devices, it has rules, spaces and goals designed to help people work and live together. We all know that the game itself cannot cheat, lie or steal. So when the game becomes unfair, it is not because the board is evil or corrupt, but it's because the players has chosen to break the game rules.
The modern social system was not developed in a day. It has reached this stage today as a result of many years of dedicated and coordinated efforts. The state is created in harmony with the nature of the movement of a social system. The state is much stronger in terms of territory and this state system can control the citizens of the country in various ways. We identify the corruption of a country in a state way but in reality if corruption exists in the social system you cannot easily identify it and remove it. People create a state to control a large population and this is a coordinated system but when the rulers of the state become corrupt, they have to resort to the existing law to control it but the law is not strict for the rulers. In many countries, justice is sold to money. To maintain order in a society, control has to be maintained through locally qualified people with the help of the state.
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GoldBitcoin112
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September 26, 2026, 10:57:58 AM |
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Looking at the caption, the people are corrupt not the society, with this I can tell you for free that everyone is corrupt, society is a geographical zone that comparised with different kinds of people, that's the more reason I will reason different in this your topic, if a law in a particular place has been altered by those who place the law that means the citizens can not longer abed with the laws because even the top personnels are desobyed the laws already, in this case many citizens will be corrupt too that is the more reason why I said everyone will be corrupt, so not the problem of the citizens that is corrupt but the problem of the government, who place laws and could act normal to the laws they placed.
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Dareo
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September 26, 2026, 11:32:36 AM |
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Of course People are responsible for their own actions but institutions and rules also influence people's behavior. Suppose there are two places where the same bribery opportunity exists, In one place if you get caught, the punishment is severe and in another, no one is properly monitoring. Even if two people have the same character, the risk of their behavior may not be the same. This is where institutions really become important. So just as it is not right to blame society entirely, it is also not right to blame only the individual and avoid the weaknesses of the structure, I think the solution is to work on both sides, holding the individual accountable and creating institutions where both the opportunity and the benefits of being dishonest are reduced.
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Charcol
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September 26, 2026, 12:40:57 PM |
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If society is initially created with laws, it is developed through the collective behavior of people. However, I do not think that society will become bad if the individual himself is bad. Many times, the rules and environment of society influence the behavior of the individual or the society forces him to be bad.
If we live in a society where the law works very well and if someone does wrong, accountability and fair trial are ensured. There we are forced to follow the rules, which is certainly important. Again, if someone lives in an environment where there is more opportunity for corruption and less fear of punishment, some people can take that opportunity and go in the wrong direction.
I think the law is definitely good for us. But its use can improve our society. Again, the irregularities of its laws can lead some people in the society to the wrong direction.
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Joy_learns_crypto
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September 26, 2026, 04:39:05 PM |
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Corruption in society actually arises gradually from human behavior and eventually it starts to seem normal. When a responsible person breaks the rules for his own benefit, the people around him also start thinking that such behavior is normal. Again, not only corrupt people, but also those who always remain silent even after seeing injustice can unintentionally help maintain such an environment. When we see any irregularities, we should understand the problem and take action very quickly, which can normalize the situation.
Everyone knows about bribery in an organization, but if no one protests, then even newcomers learn to accept it as part of the rules. When everyone knows that bribery is being taken in an organization, then they should take action based on the law. Keeping quiet is not the right thing to do and it is not against the law either. Therefore, change in society cannot start only from big leaders, but can also start from the daily decisions and attitudes of ordinary people towards injustice. It is not always necessary to have a big movement against corruption, it is also important not to tolerate small injustices in one's own place. This is where the relationship between human character and social environment becomes most clear to me.
Corruption in the society have to arise from human behaviors it can't arise from the behaviors of domestic animals, most human identity is to only look out for themselves and trample on other people's share and rights. The society exaltation riches, class and status and these can be gotten, preserved and extended to the next generation through corruption.
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EclipseXcrypto
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September 26, 2026, 05:17:55 PM |
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But don't the people make up the society, the society isn't corrupt without the people being corrupt, corruption can easily spread, a country where the head leaders are corrupt the are mostly backed by a corrupt lower leaders. There are people in the society who aren't corrupt but their silence to corruption could be passed as them being corrupt too.
Exactly the kind of question to ask, because the people they talk about make up society, and when corruption is common among them, it will naturally reflect in society. The thing here is for those who know what is right to continue doing it because not everyone is bad. Corruption can grow when the common people see it as a thing of normality and don't ask for accountability from the leaders, always looking away when the leaders aren't doing right won't help society. As citizens of a country, we too have a role to play in society, so we should refuse to support corrupt practices and ask for accountability, this will make it hard for corruption to spread so easily.
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7juju
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September 26, 2026, 05:46:27 PM |
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The society takes care of itself. The society already knew that the people’s behaviors are different, that is why it made provision for institutions that takes care of every character exhibited by the people that makes up the society. If there are no crimes, there won’t be need for he police, the court and others. The society knew that there are people that will indulge corruption, rape, and other criminalities, so these institutions makes sure they maintain law and order the keep the society operating.
But you have to know that a society is never complete without these different behaviors. That’s why you can’t see a society without criminals, mad people, corruption, etc. There can never be an ideal or sane society where everything will work the way every individual envisioned. Those things you are seeing as abnormalities are part of how the society works.
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BTC FutureKing
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September 26, 2026, 07:24:58 PM |
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Corruption in society actually arises gradually from human behavior and eventually it starts to seem normal. When a responsible person breaks the rules for his own benefit, the people around him also start thinking that such behavior is normal. Again, not only corrupt people, but also those who always remain silent even after seeing injustice can unintentionally help maintain such an environment. When we see any irregularities, we should understand the problem and take action very quickly, which can normalize the situation.
Everyone knows about bribery in an organization, but if no one protests, then even newcomers learn to accept it as part of the rules. When everyone knows that bribery is being taken in an organization, then they should take action based on the law. Keeping quiet is not the right thing to do and it is not against the law either. Therefore, change in society cannot start only from big leaders, but can also start from the daily decisions and attitudes of ordinary people towards injustice. It is not always necessary to have a big movement against corruption, it is also important not to tolerate small injustices in one's own place. This is where the relationship between human character and social environment becomes most clear to me.
Corruption in the society have to arise from human behaviors it can't arise from the behaviors of domestic animals, most human identity is to only look out for themselves and trample on other people's share and rights. The society exaltation riches, class and status and these can be gotten, preserved and extended to the next generation through corruption. I agree with you that human activities have a profound impact on society.If a person lives according to morality and character then evil and corruption in society can be eliminated.But nowadays it is very rare to see someone who despite having countless powers, money and power lives a simple life and does not create corruption in society. It is the ordinary of anyone to try to be powerful in any matter and misuse this power. For example if you are rich you give bribes of money, which leads to corruption in the public which is wrong. Every power has its limits.If you cross it it becomes wrong. Therefore, you should use this authority within the limits so that no corruption affects the society.
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Audrey Simmons
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September 26, 2026, 10:12:10 PM |
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Lastly, society is like a mirror that only reflects the character of its citizens, mirror cannot create a reflection if nothing is standing at the front of it and it doesn't create a stain, it only shows what stands in front of it. When we see corruption in today's world, we are not looking at a failure society itself, but a collective failure of individual choices. Society provides the field, but is it always up to people to know how they will play on it.
I don't see how people are different from society, a society is a group of people living together, mostly of the same species. Due to the closeness and relationships with the surroundings, interests and behaviors become contagious, people start acting the same, share beliefs, and give the society a good or bad meaning. If a society has a bad name, it is as a result of the people that makes up the society, humans are the ones wicked, it didn't start today, since the days of old.
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