BIP-110 Split (continued)

[BayAreaCoins]

The post over on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5590802.msg67027055#msg67027055 officially got locked because it's an altcoin.

Been several weeks since they forked and obviously there's now a new altcoin. If you want to keep discussing bip110-coin, do it in Altcoin Discussion.

Continue if needed.


Feel free to sell on https://altquick.com/market/bitcoin-blake2b-bitcoin/. We need some limit order traders! (Thanks)

[MoparMiningLLC]

hahaha don't tell them it's an AltCoin - Luke still claims that "core forked off" and that he is maintaining the "real Bitcoin"

[DaveF]

hahaha don't tell them it's an AltCoin - Luke still claims that "core forked off" and that he is maintaining the "real Bitcoin"

And I maintain I am as good looking as Brad Pitt, have as much money as Bezos don't make it true.

Was going to let the poking fun of 110 thing just die, much like their coin since achow101 locked the other thread, but if it's kept alive here might as well keep pointing out how bad it really is.

So, anyone post any good images to the 110 chain recently?

-Dave

[MoparMiningLLC]

hahaha don't tell them it's an AltCoin - Luke still claims that "core forked off" and that he is maintaining the "real Bitcoin"

And I maintain I am as good looking as Brad Pitt, have as much money as Bezos don't make it true.

Was going to let the poking fun of 110 thing just die, much like their coin since achow101 locked the other thread, but if it's kept alive here might as well keep pointing out how bad it really is.

So, anyone post any good images to the 110 chain recently?

-Dave

I am sure we will have some memes soon of Luke stating how the forums have now attacked Bitcoin by closing the thread and "incorrectly" calling the "real" Bitcoin an altcoin. Will claim it is an attack on their value.

[stompix]

Well, indeed, the topic needed to be moved, this thing has nothing to do with Bitcoin anymore.
Now, is this bip110 coin, blake2bitcooin, blakecoin, b2bitcoin....what is the actual name of it?

Was going to let the poking fun of 110 thing just die, much like their coin since achow101 locked the other thread, but if it's kept alive here might as well keep pointing out how bad it really is.

Read your last reply in that topic and was going to say, your idea about a saotshidice clone on that chain, that is pure evil!
Forget dickpics, a Lukedice casino based on the same framework as satoshidice and spamming the hell of that chain, would drive him crazy.

Also, did they ban15-15 multisig yet?
I am thinking of taking another half coin from one of my wallets and maybe giving bitfiles a try, but it has to be something to really annoy them.

[athanred]

Also, did they ban15-15 multisig yet?

At the time of writing, not yet, but they may block 1-of-15 multisig, used by bitfiles, when they will merge this change: https://github.com/bitcoinknots/bitcoin/pull/422

I am thinking of taking another half coin from one of my wallets and maybe giving bitfiles a try

Note that you don't have to trust them in any way, when it comes to your private keys. You upload files first, then download JSON recovery files, and then you can do with them whatever you want, for example upload it manually, without using this website at all.

For example, let's assume, that I would want to upload some text file. I can try to upload it first, and download this JSON:

Code:

{
  "kind": "bitfiles-upload",
  "version": 1,
  "chain": "btcb2",
  "createdAt": "2026-09-26T06:07:29.260Z",
  "secretKey": "621cbe7483f78e8dbb65620e5432098c24f31ab4363a3f104eaa955fb59bd745",
  "plan": {
    "revealInputs": 1,
    "dataOutputSats": 1240,
    "revealFeeSats": 240,
    "fundingFeeSats": 167,
    "depositSats": 11407,
    "returnedSats": 1000,
    "hrp": "bc",
    "filename": "main.cpp",
    "mime": "application/octet-stream",
    "size": 69,
    "feerate": 1,
    "ownerAddress": "bc1qufm5zqkc9250ufc0h8e0xtk2xcljf7xskecll9",
    "depositAddress": "bc1qufm5zqkc9250ufc0h8e0xtk2xcljf7xskecll9",
    "bpubId": "d7298bc14e0be452ff77ff31612e137266a354c2f65663666e5f139278248495",
    "redeemScripts": [
      "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"
    ]
  },
  "backedUp": false
}

And then, I can do anything I want. First, I can make sure, that my file is not too big, and it is encoded properly. Then, I can make sure, that I can control the address, where I would want to send some dust. And also, I can skip this website completely, grab that data, and push it by myself, entirely outside bitfiles, and then, it will be indexed, and displayed later. Another thing is if you know the encoding, then you can also replace their keys with your own ones, then it is fully trustless, and can be done, without "sending" coins to another place: you can simply point at any existing address under your control, and modify that data accordingly.

Which also means, that pushing data can be outsourced. You can prepare everything upfront, browse your transactions offline, and only push them, when you are sure, that you know, what are you doing. Another thing is you can run Knots node offline, point it at regtest, and see, if it is still valid in their current consensus, before actually sending anything.

[ABCbits]

Feel free to sell on https://altquick.com/market/bitcoin-blake2b-bitcoin/. We need some limit order traders! (Thanks)

Have anyone harassed you for the coin name and ticker? It already happened on other exchange[1]. While they eventually re-list it, they decide to change the logo and ticker[2].

I am thinking of taking another half coin from one of my wallets and maybe giving bitfiles a try, but it has to be something to really annoy them.

How about this NSFW and disgusting content that were mentioned by one of BIP 110 supporter on https://bitlist.co/topic/5586344?

[1] https://x.com/NeoxaPortal/status/2095222545813516754
[2] https://x.com/NeoxaPortal/status/2097096079447585253

[athanred]

How about this NSFW and disgusting content

It is already there, because they keep hosting the first 961,639 blocks for absolutely no reason: https://mempool.guide/tx/0bfd399a28127e569985a52bd1bcc2f82951582e26db18753d52638041b4d2f0

Also, their chain has some older images, compatible with bitfiles, long before that website was even coded, but they are just not displayed by default: https://bitfiles.io/btcb2/bae7f2ef77b2083b6aff095583cc7562cdda9f12cc9d1381953352af75d60812

In general, if they changed block headers through hard-fork, and they consider SHA-256 to be "captured", then they have no reason to keep old block headers anyway. If they would be serious about it, then they would for example introduce OP_BLAKE inside Script, and deprecate OP_SHA256, OP_HASH256, OP_HASH160, and so on, because it contains SHA-256. They wouldn't use SHA-256 in merkle trees, signatures, checksums, and anywhere else.

For eternity, and for the rest of time, every single node on Bitcoin will have to host and share this disgusting filth you caused.

They are wrong here, because the only reason, why they keep the first 961,639 blocks, is because they are lazy. Reorging beyond that point would make their whole chain obsolete. And if they need old data for any reason, then they should re-hash it with Blake, just as Satoshi described.

The software could save the new hash of all the old blocks to make sure a different block with the same old hash can't be used.

Where is it? Where can I see Blake hashes for historical blocks?

[MoparMiningLLC]

Now, is this bip110 coin, blake2bitcooin, blakecoin, b2bitcoin....what is the actual name of it?

They took the ticker XBT (one that Bitcoin used to use) and they call their coin "Bitcoin" - because they did not fork - "Core attacked the network and forked off stealing all the miners" <---- Luke has repeated this many times - and if you tell him he is wrong, he blocks you. He only allows comments from those that agree with him.

[BayAreaCoins]

Have anyone harassed you for the coin name and ticker? It already happened on other exchange[1]. While they eventually re-list it, they decide to change the logo and ticker[2].

No

I don't forsee anyone wasting their time with trying to both me about it, they can spend about 2 minutes researching how that's going to go.

We run a BUFU exchange.

Now, is this bip110 coin, blake2bitcooin, blakecoin, b2bitcoin....what is the actual name of it?

They took the ticker XBT (one that Bitcoin used to use) and they call their coin "Bitcoin" - because they did not fork - "Core attacked the network and forked off stealing all the miners" <---- Luke has repeated this many times - and if you tell him he is wrong, he blocks you. He only allows comments from those that agree with him.

We almost named it BJr (Bcash Jr).  Really, an exchange can name anything they want and then it's a battle of customer support tickets if you stray too far.  If you have more pull than the other service, then they start getting support tickets.

It's really just a war of support tickets, but thus far... no confusion or complaints.

[pooya87]

They took the ticker XBT (one that Bitcoin used to use) and they call their coin "Bitcoin" - because they did not fork - "Core attacked the network and forked off stealing all the miners" <---- Luke has repeated this many times - and if you tell him he is wrong, he blocks you. He only allows comments from those that agree with him.

They are effectively creating an eco-chamber for themselves to be isolated so that they can praise each other's crazy work and feel like they are doing a good job!

BLuke would have a lot more success if he created it from scratch instead of forking off out of bitcoin and its price might have been at least 100x what it is today (no airdropped coins to dump and crash its price). BLuke has potentially millions of people bag-holding 20.08 million BLukecoins ready to dump it as soon as they can. All because they forked off

[ABCbits]

How about this NSFW and disgusting content

It is already there, because they keep hosting the first 961,639 blocks for absolutely no reason: https://mempool.guide/tx/0bfd399a28127e569985a52bd1bcc2f82951582e26db18753d52638041b4d2f0

I know. But re-publishing same NSFW/disturbing content on newer TX after BIP 110 is activated may annoy them, especially if you add provocative text/message to it. But i won't do it myself since it's waste of time and i don't want to see that NSFW/disturbing content ever again.

Have anyone harassed you for the coin name and ticker? It already happened on other exchange[1]. While they eventually re-list it, they decide to change the logo and ticker[2].

No

I don't forsee anyone wasting their time with trying to both me about it, they can spend about 2 minutes researching how that's going to go.

We run a BUFU exchange.

Good for you, they probably have wasted enough energy and time harassing neoxa.

[DaveF]

They took the ticker XBT (one that Bitcoin used to use) and they call their coin "Bitcoin" - because they did not fork - "Core attacked the network and forked off stealing all the miners" <---- Luke has repeated this many times - and if you tell him he is wrong, he blocks you. He only allows comments from those that agree with him.

They are effectively creating an eco-chamber for themselves to be isolated so that they can praise each other's crazy work and feel like they are doing a good job!

BLuke would have a lot more success if he created it from scratch instead of forking off out of bitcoin and its price might have been at least 100x what it is today (no airdropped coins to dump and crash its price). BLuke has potentially millions of people bag-holding 20.08 million BLukecoins ready to dump it as soon as they can. All because they forked off

I pointed out as have a couple of other people it looks like 99% of the people out there that do have BTC have no idea about the fork or that it exists or anything else.
We are here so we know, but quoting myself:

I would have thought that the dumping would have started by now.
At a *guess* unlike the 2017 BCH fork. Most people outside of here and a few other places have never heard of knots / 110.

I am 99% sure I know one of the mining companies he is talking about here:

Its actually how I even found out about it. No miner here even heard about knots before the broker sent emails to people warning them about it.

If it's the one I am thinking of, they are probably in the dozen or so EH/s range. And as of 4 or 5 months ago never even heard of 110.

So like most cults outside of the members and the immediate circle almost or the people who are actively fighting against the cult nobody knows or cares.

There are a lot of people sitting on decent amounts of BTC that would probably be happy to split and sell their 100BTC that they have accumulated from back in the day.
They just have no idea 110 / knots exists.

Heck I bet there are some people on this board, who do spend a hour or so a week here that have no idea. Could even be people who spend more. Think of the members here that never or rarely poke their heads out of the collectables section. Could spend hours and hours a week here but if they missed the couple of threads in the main discussion they would have no idea since it's not collectables related or gambling related or.....

Was true back in early Aug when they 1st split was true 3 weeks ago when I posted it and is probably still true now, there are people here are this board who have no idea about it.
Might be a bit different out there in social media land, but I have a couple of profiles out there on other sites and have never seen 110 content on them. You can see it with the hits on the videos they post. The lack of interaction on other places that they are using. The same people posting in their echo chamber.

.....I know. But re-publishing same NSFW/disturbing content on newer TX after BIP 110 is activated may annoy them, especially if you add provocative text/message to it. But i won't do it myself since it's waste of time and i don't want to see that NSFW/disturbing content ever again.....

Does not have to be NSFW or even bad. But posting things that annoy them takes away some of their time so they can angrily discuss it amongst themselves so while doing that they can't be trying to recruit people into their group. So there might be a small win.

-Dave

[stompix]

Ok, so somebody here is either playing innocent while crapping on blake chain or there is somebody lurking around reading the topic and deciding to do the stuff we discuss

How about this NSFW and disgusting content that were mentioned by one of BIP 110 supporter on https://bitlist.co/topic/5586344?

So this was early morning on 26th....
The same file was broadcast and added to a block on Blake 2026-09-26 15:02:17:
https://mempool.guide/tx/7690b398fe92a6aacfe65b639f14f274733df205d61e06f9424e7744c313a6e5
1-hour difference between forum time and mempool, 1 hour between broadcast and confirmation, so 2-3 hours after the message was posted...
Common, this is no coincidence!

Who did it!?!?!? 

[DaveF]

Someone who really hates luke / 110
Check the deleted / removed posts in this thread.

Could be wrong, but I saw the post pop up yesterday about him trying to post things on the 110 chain and then disappear. So I guess he figured it out.


-Dave

[pooya87]

I pointed out as have a couple of other people it looks like 99% of the people out there that do have BTC have no idea about the fork or that it exists or anything else.

I also haven't seen anything about it on any other places (other forums or social media), that's one of the reason I mentioned the echo chamber. ^.^

There are of course other issues too, I'd say the two major ones are:
- Lack of an easy-to-use tool to claim the "airdrop". In comparison to BCash, there is no lightweight wallet that users an use. BCash guys quickly created a fork of Electrum which is a very easy to use tool. So how does one claim BLuke? Download and run Knots which is a full node? That ain't gonna happen with 99.99% of people.

- Lack of exchanges to trade it. Someone who is KYC'd on for example Binance is not going to sign up on some new exchange (usually with no volume) just to sell an airdrop to a thin orderbook that would crash if he did.

[DaveF]

Also, I just did a bit of a look. And from what I can see nobody has mentioned the stuff that was put on the 110 chain using the bitfiles app.
Don't know if it's been censored or just that they don't know about it.

I really can't see them not knowing but if they never leave their bubble world they might not.

Whatever.

-Dave

[athanred]

Who did it!?!?!?

Of course this user: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3751337

It is not that hard to see deleted posts, indexed by bitcointalk crawlers: https://bitlist.co/post/67182178

So I guess he figured it out.

Yeah, he complained about bitfiles being buggy, but at that time, his transaction was already hanging as unconfirmed. Which means maybe he got errors like "too-long-mempool-chain", but somehow the transaction was pushed anyway. And maybe he thought, that it failed, so did it again, but this time with a lower quality. Anyway, it seems bitfiles indexed all of his attempts.

So how does one claim BLuke?

By making BIP-110-incompatible transaction, in any way: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5590674.msg67025339#msg67025339

Of course, using P2PK is not the only option, there are many others. And some people did it faster, than me: https://mempool.space/tx/fd1a2b41fbae10adfcc44b0e3e6d6a4ff8679ac86f1da1386a0ff2263522143e

Download and run Knots which is a full node?

I did everything from Bitcoin Core, without having full access to the chain. My node is still downloading new blocks, and is still somewhere at 80%. Maybe after a few more weeks, I will finally have the whole chain, I am syncing since June 2026 or so.

One of the funny things I can see, is some connections from Knots, hanging at block number 961,639.

Lack of exchanges to trade it.

Not only that. There are some exchanges, which support it now, but didn't support it then. Which means it was possible to sell some BIP-110 coins back then, withdraw some BTCs, and get yet another airdrop of BIP-110 coins, out of that exchange, and repeat the same cycle multiple times, as long as that exchange had enough unsplitted coins, to be worth it.

But usually, it was not a big difference, at least for me, because BIP-110 price was too low, and deposit/withdraw fees were too high, to make any profits out of repeating that cycle.

Also, people could mine more coins, than they could get from "having BTCs", which is yet another reason, why that coin failed, and now the community is trying to "fix" it somehow, by preventing miners from spending some of their coins. But there are workarounds, and for example CTRLpool deployed "Stratum 2 Datum converter" to unlock their coins, and just slightly changed the format of their blocks, to still be compatible with stratum v1: https://x.com/CTRLpool/status/2103242037378142467

And from what I can see nobody has mentioned the stuff that was put on the 110 chain using the bitfiles app.

Huh? I wouldn't know about bitfiles at all, if I wouldn't read it on X. So, it was mentioned there earlier: https://x.com/devinsellerz/status/2099834649379831960